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16-04-2008, 02:05 PM
"Ouroboros_Rex" <its@casual.com> wrote in message
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> "Tunderbar" <tdcomeau@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 7, 1:12 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
>> "Tunderbar" <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:5ca05b6f-0fd8-46bf-9f19-3352f04b4898@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 7, 12:14 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "Tunderbar" <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:053c50a0-4361-4c52-a3a6-1a91af2ae290@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > >http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/01/...
>>
>> > > A warmer Arctic? Blame Mother Nature
>> > > Posted: January 07, 2008, 10:09 AM by Marni Soupcoff
>> > > Lorne Gunter
>> > > 'Something other than CO2 and CO2-related feedbacks ... are
>> > > playing a
>> > > large role in the region's recent temperature trends."
>>
>> > Something other than the sun is heating my office. Doesn't mean the
>> > sun
>> > doesn't exist. lol
>>
>> <Nobody said that warming doesn't exist. They said that there are
>> other
>> <factors involved other than *possibly* minute effects of co2. You
>> guys
>> <sure like spinning strawman arguments doncha?
>>
>> Poor Tundy thinks the article is unavailable now for some reason. lol
>>
>> "The plain meaning is that the warming in the Arctic is not
>> only -- or even mostly -- man-made. It is not the result of carbon
>> emissions, no matter how often we have been warned that this past
>> summer's melt was unprecedented and a foreboding harbinger of a
>> coming
>> global meltdown."
>>
>> "Not the result of carbon emissions", lol
>>
>> But this is the funniest part:
>>
>> "Habibullah Abdusamatov, head of the Pulkovo Observatory, was quoted
>> by
>> Russian news agencies last week saying the Earth has passed the heat
>> peak. The recent active period of solar activity has ended and
>> noticeably colder temperatures could begin as soon as 2012."
>>
>> Actually, we just passed solar minimum. lol
>
> <Hey moron. We know that the arctic is warmer. No one is denying that.
> <But the Antarctic is colder, only you agw morons are trying to deny
> <that.
>
> Really? Show us where.
>
A New Record for Antarctic Total Ice Extent
Tuesday, September 11, 2007
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/a_new_record_for_antartic_total_ice_extent
While the news focus has been on the lowest ice extent since satellite
monitoring began in 1979 for the Arctic, the Southern Hemisphere
(Antarctica) has quietly set a new record for most ice extent since
1979.
This can be seen on this graphic from this University of Illinois site
The Cryosphere Today, which updated snow and ice extent for both
hemispheres daily. The Southern Hemispheric areal coverage is the
highest in the satellite record, just beating out 1995, 2001, 2005 and
2006. Since 1979, the trend has been up for the total Antarctic ice
extent.
While the Antarctic Peninsula area has warmed in recent years and ice
near it diminished during the Southern Hemisphere summer, the interior
of Antarctica has been colder and ice elsewhere has been more extensive
and longer lasting, which explains the increase in total extent. This
dichotomy was shown in this World Climate Report blog posted recently
with a similar tale told in this paper by Ohio State Researcher David
Bromwich, who agreed "It's hard to see a global warming signal from the
mainland of Antarctica right now".
Indeed, according the NASA GISS data, the South Pole winter
(June/July/August) has cooled about 1 degree F since 1957 and the
coldest year was 2004.
This winter has been an especially harsh one in the Southern Hemisphere
with cold and snow records set in Australia, South America and Africa.
We will have recap on this hard winter shortly. See full story here.
Posted on 09/11 at 07:44 PM
Get The TRUE Facts At
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html
Excellent Links At
http://www.warwickhughes.com/
Regards
Bonzo
"If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic
CO2
contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first
floor"
D'Aleo
"...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
panic us"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences
"What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes"
Dr. Richard Lindzen
[most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen
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>
> "Tunderbar" <tdcomeau@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:91b9ab3b-1455-4ca0-a12b-50cc5b742c4e@n22g2000prh.googlegroups.com...
> On Jan 7, 1:12 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
>> "Tunderbar" <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> news:5ca05b6f-0fd8-46bf-9f19-3352f04b4898@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> On Jan 7, 12:14 pm, "Ouroboros_Rex" <i...@casual.com> wrote:
>>
>> > "Tunderbar" <tdcom...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>
>> >news:053c50a0-4361-4c52-a3a6-1a91af2ae290@x69g2000hsx.googlegroups.com...
>>
>> > >http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2008/01/...
>>
>> > > A warmer Arctic? Blame Mother Nature
>> > > Posted: January 07, 2008, 10:09 AM by Marni Soupcoff
>> > > Lorne Gunter
>> > > 'Something other than CO2 and CO2-related feedbacks ... are
>> > > playing a
>> > > large role in the region's recent temperature trends."
>>
>> > Something other than the sun is heating my office. Doesn't mean the
>> > sun
>> > doesn't exist. lol
>>
>> <Nobody said that warming doesn't exist. They said that there are
>> other
>> <factors involved other than *possibly* minute effects of co2. You
>> guys
>> <sure like spinning strawman arguments doncha?
>>
>> Poor Tundy thinks the article is unavailable now for some reason. lol
>>
>> "The plain meaning is that the warming in the Arctic is not
>> only -- or even mostly -- man-made. It is not the result of carbon
>> emissions, no matter how often we have been warned that this past
>> summer's melt was unprecedented and a foreboding harbinger of a
>> coming
>> global meltdown."
>>
>> "Not the result of carbon emissions", lol
>>
>> But this is the funniest part:
>>
>> "Habibullah Abdusamatov, head of the Pulkovo Observatory, was quoted
>> by
>> Russian news agencies last week saying the Earth has passed the heat
>> peak. The recent active period of solar activity has ended and
>> noticeably colder temperatures could begin as soon as 2012."
>>
>> Actually, we just passed solar minimum. lol
>
> <Hey moron. We know that the arctic is warmer. No one is denying that.
> <But the Antarctic is colder, only you agw morons are trying to deny
> <that.
>
> Really? Show us where.
>
A New Record for Antarctic Total Ice Extent
Tuesday, September 11, 2007
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/a_new_record_for_antartic_total_ice_extent
While the news focus has been on the lowest ice extent since satellite
monitoring began in 1979 for the Arctic, the Southern Hemisphere
(Antarctica) has quietly set a new record for most ice extent since
1979.
This can be seen on this graphic from this University of Illinois site
The Cryosphere Today, which updated snow and ice extent for both
hemispheres daily. The Southern Hemispheric areal coverage is the
highest in the satellite record, just beating out 1995, 2001, 2005 and
2006. Since 1979, the trend has been up for the total Antarctic ice
extent.
While the Antarctic Peninsula area has warmed in recent years and ice
near it diminished during the Southern Hemisphere summer, the interior
of Antarctica has been colder and ice elsewhere has been more extensive
and longer lasting, which explains the increase in total extent. This
dichotomy was shown in this World Climate Report blog posted recently
with a similar tale told in this paper by Ohio State Researcher David
Bromwich, who agreed "It's hard to see a global warming signal from the
mainland of Antarctica right now".
Indeed, according the NASA GISS data, the South Pole winter
(June/July/August) has cooled about 1 degree F since 1957 and the
coldest year was 2004.
This winter has been an especially harsh one in the Southern Hemisphere
with cold and snow records set in Australia, South America and Africa.
We will have recap on this hard winter shortly. See full story here.
Posted on 09/11 at 07:44 PM
Get The TRUE Facts At
http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/index.html
Excellent Links At
http://www.warwickhughes.com/
Regards
Bonzo
"If the atmosphere was a 100 story building, our annual anthropogenic
CO2
contribution today would be equivalent to the linoleum on the first
floor"
D'Aleo
"...and I think future generations are not going to blame us for
anything except for being silly, for letting a few tenths of a degree
panic us"
Dr. Richard Lindzen, Professor of Meteorology MIT and Member of the
National Academy of Sciences
"What most commentators-and many scientists-seem to miss is that the
only thing we can say with certainly about climate is that it changes"
Dr. Richard Lindzen
[most of the current alarm over climate change is based on] "inherently
untrustworthy climate models, similar to those that cannot accurately
forecast the weather a week from now." Dr. Richard Lindzen