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full_metal
28-09-2008, 06:36 PM
does anyone know how speed cameras work?
it flashed at me.. but i dont know what will happen.
story:
i was driving along the road and saw a friend at the side.. (no cars were behind me) so i reversed to park behind them and it flashed... -_-"
i was about 10 m in front when i decided to reverse... so i had to reverse maybe 10-15m... maybe reversing up to 20km/h?
so does anyone know wat will happen?
im scared.
its a speed camera in new south wales
thanx
KatKatKat
28-09-2008, 08:09 PM
what a random thing for someone new to come here and talk about
Punkbabe
28-09-2008, 08:25 PM
lol i was thinking the same thing :p
Yea, strange 1st post.
Most fixed speed cameras are set to record an image when it's attached speed radar detects a reasonable-sized object travelling away from it at a speed above the current speed limit in that area + a 10% margin for error.
There have been reports of people seeing a "flash" come from them when they apparently cannot see why it would, perhaps there are some other factors that dtermine weather it "flashes" or not.
Google it, and/or send a request to your friendly police people.
Randy
28-09-2008, 10:02 PM
All the speed cameras i have ever seen are on intersections or highways/freeways. (i know SA have those wheelie bin speed cameras...).
Perhaps it has an idiot setting. If someone is reversing on the freeway, or reversing in an intersection, then it goes off...
Anyway why would you be scared of a speed camera? :confused: What, is it going to break away form the cement, chase you down the road and proceed to beat you to death for reversing 15 meters?
full_metal
28-09-2008, 10:32 PM
i wanted an australian forum to help me.. because you all probably know how it works better than other (diff cameras in diff countries?) and this was one of the first that came up :P
its not going to chase me down.. :P but i am on P's at the moment.
ticket/fine and i want to get a performance car of some sort in the future.. and this may jeopardise that oppotunity i fear. :(
or i'll have huge insurance costs int he future?
thanks for the help.. but i thought speed cameras were operated by the rta? i'll probably go ask them what will happen..:(
Randy
28-09-2008, 10:40 PM
i wanted an australian forum to help me.. because you all probably know how it works better than other (diff cameras in diff countries?) and this was one of the first that came up :P
its not going to chase me down.. :P but i am on P's at the moment.
ticket/fine and i want to get a performance car of some sort in the future.. and this may jeopardise that oppotunity i fear. :(
or i'll have huge insurance costs int he future?
thanks for the help.. but i thought speed cameras were operated by the rta? i'll probably go ask them what will happen..:(Why would speeding ticket impact your ability to obtain a performance car or increase you insurance rates?
Insurance increases cover liability expenses. and as far as i know, nothing you can do will disable you buying specific cars when you obtain a full license.
Tsargrad
28-09-2008, 10:51 PM
If you are young with a high performance car, nothing is going to make it cheap.
full_metal
28-09-2008, 11:02 PM
well i knew a guy a while ago and wasn't able to get insurance on his car because he had a speeding ticket before.. :( so i don't want that to happen to me. (cant remember if he was a P or not tho)
timetraveler
28-09-2008, 11:41 PM
speed cameras suck! (no i don't have anything useful to contribute to this topic at all)
Randy
29-09-2008, 06:31 AM
well i knew a guy a while ago and wasn't able to get insurance on his car because he had a speeding ticket before.. :( so i don't want that to happen to me. (cant remember if he was a P or not tho)Ahh... Hearsay.
In some states, you are prevented from owing a performance car on a restricted license. I am not aware of any restrictions on full licensed drivers concerning high performance (legal) cars.
You don't want an expensive high performance car on your p's.
You don't dress up in Olympic running gear to walk to the shops... :rolleyes:
Well you don't, unless you have something to prove. 8=D
amber.2
29-09-2008, 09:47 AM
Ive always had high performance cars until recently, v/8 toranas , Cordia AA turbo,vl calais turbo's, and i always had to pay top insurance simply because i was driving a high performance vehicles, even though i had no claims and had 60% no claim bonus, .
Back in 1988 i was paying over $1,000 to insure a VL Calais Turbo a year , so if your under 25 your going to be lucky to get an insurance company to cover you at a reasonable cost.
full_metal
29-09-2008, 10:45 AM
well i have a friend that's supra is under his mum's name and that's costing him 5000 a year still.. and she has a good driving record... and the guy i was refering to before was almost able to get his car insured for over 5000 until they found out about a lil traffic infringement he had in the past..
i dont want somethin in the past to haunt me in the future :P
cyberhonky
29-09-2008, 09:43 PM
well i have a friend that's supra is under his mum's name and that's costing him 5000 a year still.. and she has a good driving record... and the guy i was refering to before was almost able to get his car insured for over 5000 until they found out about a lil traffic infringement he had in the past..
i dont want somethin in the past to haunt me in the future :P
dunno why people bother doing that- even if you wait until you're 35, if you've had no insurance, you're gunna start at the bottom just like an 18yo
popeye
29-09-2008, 10:09 PM
dunno why people bother doing that- even if you wait until you're 35, if you've had no insurance, you're gunna start at the bottom just like an 18yo
I don't know why people bother buying a car that's going to cost them $5k a year to insure. It's only a Supra. It's not like it's a half million dollar Lamborgini or something. I guess boys will be boys and they need to compensate for their tiny manhood somehow. :p
giilby
30-09-2008, 10:23 AM
well i have a friend that's supra is under his mum's name and that's costing him 5000 a year still.. and she has a good driving record... and the guy i was refering to before was almost able to get his car insured for over 5000 until they found out about a lil traffic infringement he had in the past..
i dont want somethin in the past to haunt me in the future :P
im not too sure i believe u if im honest... $5000, that seems a bit unbelievable. Obviously the car isnt insured under her name so her track record for driving isnt important. Ur mate should have put the insurance in his mums name with him as a named driver with a higher excess to pay. That would have cut the cost significantly... besides the point, wat sort of fool fresh outta their P's pays 5k a yr for insurance? More money than sense if u ask me, it'll be wrapped around a pole in no time and he'll be driving a 5th hand '86 Barina
Lord Smelly
30-09-2008, 10:37 AM
After my adventures in far less powerful cars on my P's many years ago. I became a firm believer in that until your over the age of 27 you should be limited to a small engine vehicle if you do not want a large government surcharge on both your insurance and registration. While no money can compensate for the loss of life, at least the other road users are somewhat compensated for the complete foolish behavior of most young drivers when they destroy public property and the public incur the medical costs. When I say surcharge I mean like 8k+ in total, maybe higher depending on the vehicle in question. The under 27 drivers should also be required to fund and undertake advanced driving education courses.
Randy
30-09-2008, 11:51 AM
After my adventures in far less powerful cars on my P's many years ago. I became a firm believer in that until your over the age of 27 you should be limited to a small engine vehicle if you do not want a large government surcharge on both your insurance and registration. While no money can compensate for the loss of life, at least the other road users are somewhat compensated for the complete foolish behavior of most young drivers when they destroy public property and the public incur the medical costs. When I say surcharge I mean like 8k+ in total, maybe higher depending on the vehicle in question. The under 27 drivers should also be required to fund and undertake advanced driving education courses.27!
I think your on the right track. Those driving modified/high performance cars present a threat on the road. I agree that they should pay for the privilege of presenting that threat. Perhaps making all people desiring to drive high performance cars have to get an expensive license in order to drive one, and not allowing p platers to get such a license.
(as 18-22 is not the only age that your inexperienced at driving. If you start driving at 30, 40 even 50, your still a menace to the road purely due to your absence of acquired skills)
That advanced driving thing has been totted for years. Government sponsored advanced driving courses for everyone obtaining or renewing their license. Deriving those funds from increased registration fees (keeps the poor people off the road, they're maniacs anyway)
cyberhonky
01-10-2008, 11:36 AM
27!
I think your on the right track. Those driving modified/high performance cars present a threat on the road. I agree that they should pay for the privilege of presenting that threat.*snip*
valid point, but the hi performance car isnt the threat, its the idiot behind the wheel. (if proving a point) i could be just as big a threat on the road in a Barina Sportgirl as well as a Hummer.
a mix of low cost/hi performance cars, and an idiot driver is the worst mix- but an idiot in the missus shopping trolley is near as bad.
As an example, the Commodore in all its guises is the hoon car of choice, whether it be a $1500 VN, or a 40-50k clubsport, they seem to make the news a lot.
The porsche 911 or audi RS4 or Mercedes SLK are more powerful and expensive cars, but they're not looked on as a threat or a hoon type vehicle-granted there's less around than the commodores etc, but why should a mid 40's-50s doctor driving his porsche or audi or merc have to pay a premium for a perceived threat (even though they could probably afford it), when they don't really pose one?
Randy
01-10-2008, 02:00 PM
valid point, but the hi performance car isnt the threat, its the idiot behind the wheel. (if proving a point) i could be just as big a threat on the road in a Barina Sportgirl as well as a Hummer.
a mix of low cost/hi performance cars, and an idiot driver is the worst mix- but an idiot in the missus shopping trolley is near as bad.
As an example, the Commodore in all its guises is the hoon car of choice, whether it be a $1500 VN, or a 40-50k clubsport, they seem to make the news a lot.
The porsche 911 or audi RS4 or Mercedes SLK are more powerful and expensive cars, but they're not looked on as a threat or a hoon type vehicle-granted there's less around than the commodores etc, but why should a mid 40's-50s doctor driving his porsche or audi or merc have to pay a premium for a perceived threat (even though they could probably afford it), when they don't really pose one?Well the whole thing depends on definitions. You'd define a high performance car based on Kilowatts or horsepower or whatever. Not on brand. Porches and audi's are generally sporty looking luxury cars. Not necessarily high performance vehicles.
However, While we can't mandate against stupidity, we can mitigate its effects. The only foreseeable reason a person would buy a high performance car is to use it (you don't buy a sword to chop lettuce ;)). Since using a high performance car to its capability presents a threat, everyone possessing a high performance car is a threat. IMO they should mitigate that extra threat they pose to the community by forking over wads of cash that would go toward something like defensive driving courses or advanced driving courses for high performance vehicle owners, and general vehicle owners.
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