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notinthisworld
02-06-2009, 12:03 AM
hi, i have a optima g200n laptop, i wanna upgrade the optical drive, and i am looking for the service manual of this unit so that i could easily replace the drive without breaking the other parts of the notebook.

any help would be great. thanks

Randy
02-06-2009, 03:11 AM
Replacing optical drives is usually a matter of undoing one skrew on the base of the laptop.

As for service manuals... they're not released to the public as far as i know.

notinthisworld
02-06-2009, 08:46 AM
good day,

yes, i can see a screw on top of it, but my problem is that i cannot reach that screw. maybe i should remove the keyboard pad, but i don't know how to do that.

any help and suggestion would be great

Rick
02-06-2009, 01:07 PM
You could try looking at the manuals, from various brands, on this page

http://www.laptoprepair101.com/laptop/category/laptop-service-manual/

you might get an idea on how to take it apart.

notinthisworld
02-06-2009, 01:18 PM
thanks sir..

btw, i forgot to ask,maybe some of you know if this has a similar other brand laptop? oem>?

Randy
02-06-2009, 03:17 PM
good day,

yes, i can see a screw on top of it, but my problem is that i cannot reach that screw. maybe i should remove the keyboard pad, but i don't know how to do that.

any help and suggestion would be great

On the bottom of the laptop there should be a really long skrew who's placement isn't symmetrical with the other skrew placements. It should be where you'd think the back of the optical drive would be, usually near the centre. If you undo this skrew and eject the tray, you should just be able to pull the drive right out of the chassis. You don't need to open the laptop to do that. (it would be a horrible idea to have to open the chassis to change optical drives)

notinthisworld
02-06-2009, 03:33 PM
i tried removing all screws found at the bottom of the laptop. it still not possible to remove the optical drive, . i tried to peek inside and i can see a screw locking the optical drive to the loptop itself.

the screw can only removed via top access. i am guessing that i should remove the keyboard. but i dont have any idea how to. thank you

Randy
02-06-2009, 04:30 PM
i tried removing all screws found at the bottom of the laptop. it still not possible to remove the optical drive, . i tried to peek inside and i can see a screw locking the optical drive to the loptop itself.

the screw can only removed via top access. i am guessing that i should remove the keyboard. but i don't have any idea how to. thank youWell... its a bit hard to tell you without being there... I saw that many laptops have their screws in random places... i guess its kind of like changing a car battery, its a simple action, but every car has its own way of doing it.

The keboard should be able to be removed without opening the laptop. My old laptop had a panel you had to lever off to reveal the screws that held the keyboard down on the chassis. perhaps you can look for that panel. It was the strip that's above the keyboard.'

My new laptop doesn't permit anything to be removed without dissembling the entire laptop... But mines a mac.

MeanDean
02-06-2009, 08:16 PM
They make (http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Upgrade-RAM-in-Unibody-MacBook-Pro---Bleeding-Edge-TV-297-71649299) it so hard (http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/First-Look/MacBook-Pro-17-Inch-Unibody/618/1) to get to the drive :cry:
You need a screwdriver and a trained monkey to 'disassemble' it. Why is it so hard!!! :cry::cry:

Randy
02-06-2009, 09:57 PM
They make (http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Upgrade-RAM-in-Unibody-MacBook-Pro---Bleeding-Edge-TV-297-71649299) it so hard (http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/First-Look/MacBook-Pro-17-Inch-Unibody/618/1) to get to the drive :cry:
You need a screwdriver and a trained monkey to 'disassemble' it. Why is it so hard!!! :cry::cry:You shouldn't have to disassemble the chassis to remove peripherals. The way you remove RAM should be the way you remove everything that needs changing. You try getting a optical drive out of a non-pro macbook. Not easy. Just like changing batteries in iphones and changing harddrives in ipods.

MeanDean
02-06-2009, 10:50 PM
Just a normal macbook (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1756)? Without the pro you say?

My new laptop doesn't permit anything to be removed without dissembling the entire laptop:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Do you need a nappy to go along with the link you decided to provide though?

If you'd watched the video, you'd have noticed the optical drive was right there, you know where it would be when the cover is off, and that it was screwed in. I did say trained monkey though.

Randy
03-06-2009, 02:06 AM
Just a normal macbook (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1756)? Without the pro you say?References nothing we were talking about. As usual.
[talks in MD's voice] "No your wrong! Macbooks are made of jelly (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lu8gOpNch4) and the dust from my arsecrack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs_Op7HIlPs)"


If you'd watched the video, you'd have noticed the optical drive was right there, you know where it would be when the cover is off, and that it was screwed in. I did say trained monkey though.:rolleyes: [refers to his last comment]

MeanDean
03-06-2009, 05:13 AM
Yeah... the Apple website indicating that you're incredibly correct and that doesn't relate to your comments about your own machine... I guess it must say something differant than what I thought for the same reason that the webpage Rick linked to doesn't index manufacturer websites hosting service manuals. I don't know what came over me in either case... on the one hand I guess I forgot that you weren't aware of service manuals being released to the public and that as such, these sites are either imaginary or are phishing scams set up by people who want others to destroy their machines, and with the other thing, I forgot that these things are just the sort of reason you chose to call yourself god and worship yourself. If I had remembered that you were god I would have known straight away to trust you and not that stupid website thrown up by that insignificant company that built your machine in the first place.

I think this attitude you're expressing is how you came up with the whole isolationist/god thing in the first place... being an expert even where you aren't. Enjoy the ride. It seems to be cyclic.

K bye bye now. Off you go to troll a Linux forum or look at an upskirt sites or whatever it is that accompanies your horseshit.




When I complained about the link Randy threw up, my intention wasn't for it only to be deleted so that my post below it would no longer make sense. No thanks for that particular manner... or rather, thanks for trying but it was a bit of a miss for me. I'd have appreciated an approach that didn't skew the outside appearance of the argument. I sort of do care about that. Now here I am having to call "horseshit" for what it is. It wasn't my intention today. Its supposed to be a non-cursing week for me.

Randy
03-06-2009, 05:38 AM
Yeah... the Apple website indicating that you're incredibly correct and that doesn't relate to your comments about your own machine... I guess it must say something differant than what I thought for the same reason that the webpage Rick linked to doesn't index manufacturer websites hosting service manuals. I don't know what came over me in either case... on the one hand I guess I forgot that you weren't aware of service manuals being released to the public and that as such, these sites are either imaginary or are phishing scams set up by people who want others to destroy their machines, and with the other thing, I forgot that these things are just the sort of reason you chose to call yourself god and worship yourself. If I had remembered that you were god I would have known straight away to trust you and not that stupid website thrown up by that insignificant company that built your machine in the first place.

I think this attitude you're expressing is how you came up with the whole isolationist/god thing in the first place... being an expert even where you aren't. Enjoy the ride. It seems to be cyclic.

K bye bye now. Off you go to troll a Linux forum or look at an upskirt sites or whatever it is that accompanies your horseshit.




When I complained about the link Randy threw up, my intention wasn't for it only to be deleted so that my post below it would no longer make sense. No thanks for that whoever did it in that particular manner. Thanks for trying but it was a miss. I'd have appreciated an approach that didn't monumentally skew the outside appearance of the argument. I sort of do care about that. Now here I am having to call "horseshit" for what it is. It wasn't my intention today.That's it MD. In the case of someone commenting on how your 'rambling and nonsensical' just be more rambling and nonsensical. It's not going to deepen the hole of crazy you dug. Rambling more passionately and nonsensically, with sentences with no link to previous posts, makes you appear to be more and more sane the more you do it ;).

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.massively.com/media/2008/04/retards041308.jpg

MeanDean
03-06-2009, 05:45 AM
If you can't keep up to simple references to previous posts in a thread that hasn't yet hit page 2 without me linking back to something on the same exact page then I can't help. You're just going to have to scroll upwards and try really really hard to finally get it... start with re-reading or something. My nephew is in preschool and they have him put his thumb below the words as he reads across the page. See if that helps.

Randy
03-06-2009, 05:58 AM
If you can't keep up to simple references to previous posts in a thread that hasn't yet hit page 2 without me linking back to something on the same exact page then I can't help. You're just going to have to scroll upwards and try really really hard to finally get it... start with re-reading or something. My nephew is in preschool and they have him put his thumb below the words as he reads across the page. See if that helps.You went from Changing memory and hard drives, to swapping out batteries, mentioning that well... there is an optical drive. in that... mac book pro... That's about as close as you ever got to the conversation.

I bet your nephew can hear words, and then say things that remind him of those words.

You said the word service manual a few times, babbling like a crazy person about links and manufacturers. Yet failing to realise that his and a great many other laptop manufacturers don't release service manuals to the public.

http://www.foo.is/~baldur/retard-prize.jpg

MeanDean
03-06-2009, 07:14 AM
I didn't jump around from one thing to another thing.

They make (http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Upgrade-RAM-in-Unibody-MacBook-Pro---Bleeding-Edge-TV-297-71649299) it so hard (http://www.ifixit.com/Guide/First-Look/MacBook-Pro-17-Inch-Unibody/618/1) to get to the drive :cry:
You need a screwdriver and a trained monkey to 'disassemble' it. Why is it so hard!!! :cry::cry:First post I made, I was referancing the opticle drive... well specifically I was just stating that you were wrong in saying you needed to dissasmle your entire machine to replace "anything", and as already stated
If you'd watched the video, you'd have happened to notic the optical drive was right there when it was opened
That's what I was talking about. As god, you should already know that.
My new laptop doesn't permit anything to be removed without dissembling the entire laptop

Is the picture coming together better, fanboy
But mines a mac.

Did you just make that up, that his laptop service manual isn't released... I mean here you are saying that I should link to things rather than just stating stuff like
As for service manuals... they're not released to the public but you can't really back up the statement that the laptop in question doesn't have a service manual. You have implied that you haven't ever seen, or turned over and even looked at the laptop:
Well... its a bit hard to tell you without being there... I saw that many laptops have their screws in random places... i guess its kind of like changing a car battery, its a simple action, but every car has its own way of doing it.but you rally can't provide a link to say that his service manual isn't available to the public unless you've called or written the company... or searched every page of the entire internet to make sure.

Also I'm not really sure where you pulled this from:
The keboard should be able to be removed without opening the laptop. ...well that's not true when reading the rest:
The keboard should be able to be removed without opening the laptop. My old laptop had a panel you had to lever off to reveal the screws that held the keyboard down on the chassis. perhaps you can look for that panel. It was the strip that's above the keyboardApparently you're just pulling things out of your arse based on previous experience with at least one machine (quite impressive by the way).

I have a fundamental problem when someone repeatedly gives bad advice for the reason of having to appear that they know more than they do, so apologies if coming into the thread and implying that you're wrong about having to "disasemble the entire machine in order to change anythiing out", or whatever the claim was... sorry if that confused you into thinking I was "rambling" about ram or opticle drives or hard drives or whatever the hell when I simply pointing out that your statement was wrong... this one
My new laptop doesn't permit anything to be removed without dissembling the entire laptopMaybe if you try the thing with your thumb under the words it will be more clear next time.

Sorry for intruding in the thread but when I read bullshit about how manuals don't exist, how keyboards just come right off like they did on your old laptop
The keboard should be able to be removed without opening the laptop. My old laptop had a panel you had to lever off to reveal the screws that held the keyboard down on the chassis. and how screws are always found pretty much in the same spot... I had actually stripped the parts from a dead laptop hours before reading here and the screw to the opticle drive was in a differant spot than the last laptop I opened up the opticle drive to, and on one previous to that I had one that required unsrewing everything and taking the keyboard off just to get to the ram, and it was a delicate operation to get it off without screwing it up permanently. Giving out specific advice about the engineering of a laptop when its based on generalities is reckless, and stupid, and so was the comment about your mac that I came into the thread about, but make no mistake that I came here not because of that, but because you are in fact being careless and stupid in the name of your ego.
...telling someone how keyboards are put together so they can take things apart based on dick? WTF...



Now you have your referances. Sorry I didn't use links but as I explained earlier, everything has been right here on the page staring at you all along. I don't like to have to multiquote people, it's fucking annoying, so either learn to follow along, re-read when you have to, use your thumb, whatever, or p*ss off. You're in error... accept it and move on.

MeanDean
03-06-2009, 07:28 AM
You said the word service manual a few times, babbling like a crazy person about links and manufacturers. Yet failing to realise that his and a great many other laptop manufacturers don't release service manuals to the public.Forgot... I was "babbling" about links on a website that were posted in this thread by Rick (see this thread for referance (scroll upwards, use thumb)). Now then, since you're calling me a f***wit, retarded, etc... where's your reference about the laptop in question not having a service manual? Give it up... give me a link... give me ANYTHING at all n fact...

jokiin
03-06-2009, 09:59 AM
hi, i have a optima g200n laptop, i wanna upgrade the optical drive, and i am looking for the service manual of this unit so that i could easily replace the drive without breaking the other parts of the notebook.

any help would be great. thanks

try contacting these guys for advice http://www.impactsystems.com.au/optima they handle any warranty issues for Optima since they went bust, someone in their service department might be able to talk you through it

Randy
03-06-2009, 02:30 PM
Now you have your referencesRetroactive references. They didn't exist prior to your redefinition of your ramblings.

Like how people can "prove" the moon landing fakes. They start with the premise that the moon landing was faked (you start with the unjustified premise that you make sense, and are not just a rambling windbag, then try to prove it retroactively), and then work backwards. Problem is, that while you may be able to convince some people that your reverse logic is sensible (and not unstable and disconnected passionate ramblings) it doesn't make it sensible.

You only posted in this thread to oppose me. And you went to extraordinary lengths to make it appear as though you weren't being pathetic and petty. If you want to know why the tech section is so hostile, you should look at you and biggy. I answer questions nicely and with whatever insight and expertise i have. The threads go downhill when one of you over the hill wankers with the delusion that you have IT skill get on and attempt to debunk my advice. Your absence of skill invariably makes your opposition to my contribution about wording of advice rather than technical correctness. In short, your just a wanker, and you'd do us a big favor if you did one of 2 things. Stop trying to trump me with your absence of IT skill and contribute positively to discussions in here. (try this, try not to post sarcastic ramblings about how you misinterpret my advice), Either that, or GTFO and troll the games thread.