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Ext User(Zam)
04-10-2011, 12:40 AM
I have a program installed in C:\Program Files as usual. When I run it I
get "Do you want to allow the following program from an unknown publisher
to make changes to this computer?"
I have flagged the exe to run as administrator, doesn't help. Is there a
way to disable the UAC message for only this program?
-z
Ext User(Speaking in silver)
04-10-2011, 12:40 AM
"Zam" <NOSPAM@hotmail.com> escribió
>I have a program installed in C:\Program Files as usual. When I run it I
> get "Do you want to allow the following program from an unknown publisher
> to make changes to this computer?"
>
> I have flagged the exe to run as administrator, doesn't help. Is there a
> way to disable the UAC message for only this program?
What program is that?
What kind of changes is it trying to make?
Are you sure it's UAC who stops it?
Have you tried to take ownership of that folder?
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/add-take-ownership-to-explorer-right-click-menu-in-vista/
Please share.
Ext User(Zam)
04-10-2011, 12:40 AM
"Speaking in silver" <mi_nick_todo_seguido@live.com> wrote:
> "Zam" <NOSPAM@hotmail.com> escribió
>>I
>> get "Do you want to allow the following program from an unknown
>> publisher to make changes to this computer?"
>>
> What program is that?
Windows7Manager.exe
> What kind of changes is it trying to make?
> Are you sure it's UAC who stops it?
I have no idea what changes it wants to make. I'm not sure it's UAC who
stops it. Who else would stop it?
> Have you tried to take ownership of that folder?
Downloaded and tried this. No change. Tried sharing the folder with
everyone. Doesn't help. All thoughts appreciated.
-z
Ext User(R. C. White)
04-10-2011, 12:41 AM
Hi, Zam.
Just to save everyone else the trouble of looking it up, that file
(Windows7Manager.exe) is NOT a part of Windows 7 - and it did not come from
Microsoft.
Bing gets 77 hits; the home website seems to be here:
http://www.yamicsoft.com/windows7manager/
"Windows 7 Manager is a system utility that helps you optimize, tweak, and
clean up Windows 7. It will increase your system speed, improve system
security, and meet all of your expectations"
WHY did you think you need this program? What did you expect it to do for
YOU? What gives you confidence that this program is not Snake Oil? Have
you seen reviews or reports about it from reliable sources? And, probably
most important...
Did you set a Restore Point before you tried to install it?
I've never heard of the program or tried it, so obviously I can't comment on
its merits. But installing any .exe file without a clear understanding of
what it will do is NOT "practicing safe hex". Maybe UAC just saved your
electronic life.
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
"Zam" <NOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CD29E30CF701xyzzZam@193.202.122.132...
> "Speaking in silver" <mi_nick_todo_seguido@live.com> wrote:
>
>> "Zam" <NOSPAM@hotmail.com> escribió
>>>I
>>> get "Do you want to allow the following program from an unknown
>>> publisher to make changes to this computer?"
>>>
>
>> What program is that?
>
> Windows7Manager.exe
>
>> What kind of changes is it trying to make?
>> Are you sure it's UAC who stops it?
>
> I have no idea what changes it wants to make. I'm not sure it's UAC who
> stops it. Who else would stop it?
>
>> Have you tried to take ownership of that folder?
>
> Downloaded and tried this. No change. Tried sharing the folder with
> everyone. Doesn't help. All thoughts appreciated.
>
> -z
Ext User(SC Tom)
04-10-2011, 12:41 AM
"Zam" <NOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CD29E30CF701xyzzZam@193.202.122.132...
> "Speaking in silver" <mi_nick_todo_seguido@live.com> wrote:
>
>> "Zam" <NOSPAM@hotmail.com> escribió
>>>I
>>> get "Do you want to allow the following program from an unknown
>>> publisher to make changes to this computer?"
>>>
>
>> What program is that?
>
> Windows7Manager.exe
>
>> What kind of changes is it trying to make?
>> Are you sure it's UAC who stops it?
>
> I have no idea what changes it wants to make. I'm not sure it's UAC who
> stops it. Who else would stop it?
>
>> Have you tried to take ownership of that folder?
>
> Downloaded and tried this. No change. Tried sharing the folder with
> everyone. Doesn't help. All thoughts appreciated.
>
> -z
>
>
I would be a little afraid and a lot leery of a program that wants to make
untold changes to my system. You didn't give them a credit card number, did
you?
SC Tom
Ext User(milt)
04-10-2011, 12:41 AM
R. C. White wrote:
> Hi, Zam.
>
> Just to save everyone else the trouble of looking it up, that file
> (Windows7Manager.exe) is NOT a part of Windows 7 - and it did not come
> from Microsoft.
>
> Bing gets 77 hits; the home website seems to be here:
> http://www.yamicsoft.com/windows7manager/
>
> "Windows 7 Manager is a system utility that helps you optimize, tweak,
> and clean up Windows 7. It will increase your system speed, improve
> system security, and meet all of your expectations"
>
> WHY did you think you need this program? What did you expect it to do
> for YOU? What gives you confidence that this program is not Snake Oil?
> Have you seen reviews or reports about it from reliable sources? And,
> probably most important...
>
> Did you set a Restore Point before you tried to install it?
>
> I've never heard of the program or tried it, so obviously I can't
> comment on its merits. But installing any .exe file without a clear
> understanding of what it will do is NOT "practicing safe hex". Maybe
> UAC just saved your electronic life.
>
> RC
Sounds like something I would avoid like the plague. Probably will cause
nothing but troubles. Its crap like this that people install and then
curse about how buggy and unusable Windows is.
Ext User(Speaking in silver)
04-10-2011, 12:41 AM
"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net>
> Hi, Zam.
>
> Just to save everyone else the trouble of looking it up, that file
> (Windows7Manager.exe) is NOT a part of Windows 7 - and it did not come
> from Microsoft.
>
> Bing gets 77 hits; the home website seems to be here:
> http://www.yamicsoft.com/windows7manager/
>
> "Windows 7 Manager is a system utility that helps you optimize, tweak, and
> clean up Windows 7. It will increase your system speed, improve system
> security, and meet all of your expectations"
>
> WHY did you think you need this program? What did you expect it to do for
> YOU? What gives you confidence that this program is not Snake Oil? Have
> you seen reviews or reports about it from reliable sources? And, probably
> most important...
> Did you set a Restore Point before you tried to install it?
> I've never heard of the program or tried it,
> so obviously I can't comment on its merits. But installing any .exe file
> without a clear understanding of what it will do is NOT "practicing safe
> hex". Maybe UAC just saved your electronic life.
LOL!!!
Is this post a complete joke?
Are you working for Microsoft?
Windows 7 Manager is a fantastic program, tested by thousands of users,
including myself. One of the many reviews you can find, if your boss allows
you to read something outside Microsoft.com:
http://www.laptopmag.com/review/software/vista-manager.aspx
Of course W7M gives you the option to create a restore point before any
change is applied. We are talking about GOOD software here, not Microsoft
crap. By the way, one of the first things I did after installing it was to
get rid of the annoying UAC!
Ext User(Speaking in silver)
04-10-2011, 12:41 AM
"Zam" <NOSPAM@hotmail.com> escribió
> "Speaking in silver" <mi_nick_todo_seguido@live.com> wrote:
>> "Zam" <NOSPAM@hotmail.com> escribió
>
> Windows7Manager.exe
> I have no idea what changes it wants to make. I'm not sure it's UAC who
> stops it. Who else would stop it?
>
>> Have you tried to take ownership of that folder?
>
> Downloaded and tried this. No change. Tried sharing the folder with
> everyone. Doesn't help. All thoughts appreciated.
Sorry, I meant 'please share your comments here', not sharing the folder!
:-)
Windows 7 Manager is a very good program.
Do you get that message when trying to install it or after it has been
installed?
If it's the second option, then you have installed W7 Manager and now you
want it to make some changes for you to your Window 7 system (like disabling
hibernate funcion, or remembering folder views, or whatever) and it is only
normal that Windows complains that you are trying to change it, because
that's what you're doing.
If you are SURE about the changes, then simply answer: 'YES, I want to allow
this program to make the changes'.
However, it is always a good idea to create a restore point before changing
anything, so that you can revert to the previous situation in case you don't
like the results. Fortunately, W7 Manager gives you the option to do that
before any change is made.
Please explain what changes you want W7 Manager to make and when do you get
that message, exactly.
Regards.
Ext User(Zam)
04-10-2011, 12:41 AM
"Speaking in silver" <mi_nick_todo_seguido@live.com> wrote:
>
> Windows 7 Manager is a very good program.
> Do you get that message when trying to install it or after it has been
> installed?
After it was installed. I get the error every time it runs, just when it
starts.
>
> If you are SURE about the changes, then simply answer: 'YES, I want to
> allow this program to make the changes'.
>
I was hoping to disable the warning just for this program. I wouldn't start
it without expecting that I might change something.
I'm pretty religious about restore points, and I have Acronis making images
of my C: drive every night. If something gets mangled I can go all the way
back.
I'm a developer, new to w7. Someone else on my crew suggested w7mgr and
it's handy.
Programs I write myself that make "changes to my computer" don't invoke
this message. I guess I'll try getting hold of yamicsoft support.
Thx.
-z
Ext User(Dave-UK)
04-10-2011, 12:41 AM
"Zam" <NOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9CD351544A372xyzzZam@193.202.122.128...
> "Speaking in silver" <mi_nick_todo_seguido@live.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Windows 7 Manager is a very good program.
>> Do you get that message when trying to install it or after it has been
>> installed?
>
> After it was installed. I get the error every time it runs, just when it
> starts.
>>
>> If you are SURE about the changes, then simply answer: 'YES, I want to
>> allow this program to make the changes'.
>>
> I was hoping to disable the warning just for this program. I wouldn't start
> it without expecting that I might change something.
>
> I'm pretty religious about restore points, and I have Acronis making images
> of my C: drive every night. If something gets mangled I can go all the way
> back.
>
> I'm a developer, new to w7. Someone else on my crew suggested w7mgr and
> it's handy.
>
> Programs I write myself that make "changes to my computer" don't invoke
> this message. I guess I'll try getting hold of yamicsoft support.
>
> Thx.
>
> -z
The start-up message from UAC is normal for this program, and there is no easy
way of selectively having one program bypass UAC. I think Microsoft had a tool
for developers to create a database or 'white list' of programs that were able to
run without UAC prompts but I don't think it's worth the bother for the average
user.
Perhaps the programs you write don't have to access sensitive areas like the root
or Windows folders etc. and only make changes to users data and users folders.
Ext User(Zam)
04-10-2011, 12:41 AM
"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote:
> Just to save everyone else the trouble of looking it up, that file
> (Windows7Manager.exe) is NOT a part of Windows 7 - and it did not come
> from Microsoft.
>
Oh, sorry, didn't mean to imply that it was a MS program I was wondering
about. I know what this is, some folks on my development team use it. It
just groups a bunch of windows setup stuff all in one place, like more
detailed folder and other options.
> Bing gets 77 hits; the home website seems to be here:
> http://www.yamicsoft.com/windows7manager/
Right. They've had such utilities for previous windows versions for years.
I've never used any but many of my colleagues like them.
Since I'm going to be writing programs on a w7 box I liked this program as
it saves me time it takes to go rooting through w7 looking for all the
setup things whose whereabouts I know in XP but not in 7. I managed to skip
Vista so it's all new. It didn't look like I'd need 7 either so I didn't
bother with the betas and RC. I'm just getting started.
>
> Did you set a Restore Point before you tried to install it?
Of course.
>
> I've never heard of the program or tried it, so obviously I can't
> comment on its merits. But installing any .exe file without a clear
> understanding of what it will do is NOT "practicing safe hex". Maybe
> UAC just saved your electronic life.
>
I make restore points to save copies of the registry and I keep 5 days of
C: image backups that get created overnight. My electronic life was not in
danger but thanks for the concern.
-z
Ext User(Zam)
04-10-2011, 12:41 AM
"Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:
> The start-up message from UAC is normal for this program, and there is
> no easy way of selectively having one program bypass UAC. I think
> Microsoft had a tool for developers to create a database or 'white
> list' of programs that were able to run without UAC prompts but I
> don't think it's worth the bother for the average user.
Thank you, that's exactly what I needed to know.
-z
Ext User(Dave-UK)
04-10-2011, 12:41 AM
"Zam" <NOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:Xns9CD3875F29F56xyzzZam@193.202.122.172...
> "Dave-UK" <Here@Home.com> wrote:
>
>> The start-up message from UAC is normal for this program, and there is
>> no easy way of selectively having one program bypass UAC. I think
>> Microsoft had a tool for developers to create a database or 'white
>> list' of programs that were able to run without UAC prompts but I
>> don't think it's worth the bother for the average user.
>
> Thank you, that's exactly what I needed to know.
>
> -z
>
You might be interested in this article about how to create
a database of settings for a program:
http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/window-on-windows/?p=635
Ext User(R. C. White)
04-10-2011, 12:41 AM
Hi, Zam.
In light of your experiences - and Speaking in silver's comments - perhaps I
was over-cautious. So I'll withdraw my reservations - in YOUR case.
Less-experienced users still must be careful when installing downloaded
programs.
I've found Win7's version of UAC to be much less intrusive than Vista's.
But, then, I'm not a developer, so perhaps I don't see the UAC prompt as
often as you do, so it's not as much a nuisance for me.
RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
"Zam" <NOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9CD355DBCF165xyzzZam@193.202.122.122...
> "R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote:
>
>> Just to save everyone else the trouble of looking it up, that file
>> (Windows7Manager.exe) is NOT a part of Windows 7 - and it did not come
>> from Microsoft.
>>
> Oh, sorry, didn't mean to imply that it was a MS program I was wondering
> about. I know what this is, some folks on my development team use it. It
> just groups a bunch of windows setup stuff all in one place, like more
> detailed folder and other options.
>
>> Bing gets 77 hits; the home website seems to be here:
>> http://www.yamicsoft.com/windows7manager/
>
> Right. They've had such utilities for previous windows versions for years.
> I've never used any but many of my colleagues like them.
>
> Since I'm going to be writing programs on a w7 box I liked this program as
> it saves me time it takes to go rooting through w7 looking for all the
> setup things whose whereabouts I know in XP but not in 7. I managed to
> skip
> Vista so it's all new. It didn't look like I'd need 7 either so I didn't
> bother with the betas and RC. I'm just getting started.
>
>>
>> Did you set a Restore Point before you tried to install it?
>
> Of course.
>>
>> I've never heard of the program or tried it, so obviously I can't
>> comment on its merits. But installing any .exe file without a clear
>> understanding of what it will do is NOT "practicing safe hex". Maybe
>> UAC just saved your electronic life.
>>
> I make restore points to save copies of the registry and I keep 5 days of
> C: image backups that get created overnight. My electronic life was not in
> danger but thanks for the concern.
>
> -z
Ext User(Allen)
04-10-2011, 12:41 AM
Zam wrote:
> I have a program installed in C:\Program Files as usual. When I run it I
> get "Do you want to allow the following program from an unknown publisher
> to make changes to this computer?"
>
> I have flagged the exe to run as administrator, doesn't help. Is there a
> way to disable the UAC message for only this program?
>
> -z
Zam, I have the same problem with Paint Shop Pro ver 9, which is my
favorite image program. The same message has popped up on some other
programs, but I don't recall which ones. I am fuming impatiently while
waiting for SP1. My installation of W7 is so buggy it needs an exterminator.
Allen
Ext User(Nil)
04-10-2011, 12:41 AM
On 30 Nov 2009, Allen <allent@austin.rr.com> wrote in
alt.windows7.general:
> Zam, I have the same problem with Paint Shop Pro ver 9, which is
> my favorite image program. The same message has popped up on some
> other programs, but I don't recall which ones. I am fuming
> impatiently while waiting for SP1. My installation of W7 is so
> buggy it needs an exterminator. Allen
Paint Shop Pro 9 was released more than 5 years ago. It was never
designed to run correctly in Vista or Windows 7, and it never will.
A workaround is to install it to another location, outside of Program
Files.
Ext User(Zam)
04-10-2011, 12:42 AM
"R. C. White" <rc@grandecom.net> wrote:
> Less-experienced users still must be careful when
> installing downloaded programs.
I like the UAC. I don't want to turn it off. It's always possible I can
wind up with something I didn't intend that will be kept locked up by UAC.
I just want to white-list programs I trust. If that isn't possible I'd
rather live with UAC than turn it off, but becoming desensitized to the
warnings isn't healthy either.
-z
Ext User(Allen)
04-10-2011, 12:42 AM
Zam wrote:
> I have a program installed in C:\Program Files as usual. When I run it I
> get "Do you want to allow the following program from an unknown publisher
> to make changes to this computer?"
>
> I have flagged the exe to run as administrator, doesn't help. Is there a
> way to disable the UAC message for only this program?
>
> -z
Here's another case that I just encountered. I tried to uninstall a
program using the Control Panel option. It kept saying "preparing to
uninstall" so I brought up Windows Task Manager, which told me the
program was waiting for a response. I dug down and found the usual "Do
you want...." message with the following:
Program: C:\Windows\Installer
Publisher: _Unknown_ ! (boldface from M$, ! from me)
Can you believe that M$ doesn't know itself? I'm beginning to think that
7 is actually worse than Vista. Oh, and the response block did not show
up on the screen until WTM showed it to me!
Allen
Ext User(bigjoe)
07-08-2012, 06:54 PM
Allen wrote on 12/01/2009 11:06 ET :
> Zam wrote:
>> I have a program installed in C:Program Files as usual. When I run it I
>> get "Do you want to allow the following program from an unknown publisher
>> to make changes to this computer?"
>>
>> I have flagged the exe to run as administrator, doesn't help. Is there a
>> way to disable the UAC message for only this program?
>>
>> -z
>>
>>
> Here's another case that I just encountered. I tried to uninstall a
> program using the Control Panel option. It kept saying "preparing to
> uninstall" so I brought up Windows Task Manager, which told me the
> program was waiting for a response. I dug down and found the usual "Do
> you want" message with the following:
>
> Program: C:WindowsInstaller
>
> Publisher: _Unknown_ ! (boldface from M$, ! from me)
>
> Can you believe that M$ doesn't know itself? I'm beginning to think that
> 7 is actually worse than Vista. Oh, and the response block did not show
> up on the screen until WTM showed it to me!
>
> Allen
>
I hate to resurrect this thread, but this is the only mention I've found of
this
problem. I'm getting the "Do you want to allow this unknown program"
message every time a Windows system file tries to run. It shows the publisher
as
"Unknown". Does anyone have any hints as to what might cause this?
I have been getting errors regarding RASAPI32.DLL, and the file itself shows 0
size and an sfc scan can't repair it. The errors on Windows's own files started
at about the same time.
TIA for any help.
Ext User(John Williamson)
08-08-2012, 02:09 AM
bigjoe wrote:
> I hate to resurrect this thread, but this is the only mention I've found of
> this
> problem. I'm getting the "Do you want to allow this unknown program"
> message every time a Windows system file tries to run. It shows the publisher
> as
> "Unknown". Does anyone have any hints as to what might cause this?
>
> I have been getting errors regarding RASAPI32.DLL, and the file itself shows 0
> size and an sfc scan can't repair it. The errors on Windows's own files started
> at about the same time.
>
> TIA for any help.
First, do a full scan for malware. If your AV and security program's not
up to date, then download and run one of the Live CDs from a security
company such as AVG or Kaspersky.
If that shows no problems, then check the drive for file system errors
and bad sectors using the Windows tools as has been discussed here many
times.
If they both come up negative, then you may need to extract a copy from
your installation medium and copy it to C:\Windows\System32 while logged
in as the Administrator.
RASAPI32.dll is a file used by the modem control system, and is also
used by 3G dongles and such.
--
Tciao for Now!
John.
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