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Ext User(Paul Isaacs)
04-10-2011, 08:59 PM
My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8 NeoPlat2
with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have trouble
getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except for the old
system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition ok? Using
WindowsXP. Any tips?

Ext User(Hans Wankle)
04-10-2011, 08:59 PM
Just make sure your Power Supply is strong enough to supply the new system.
Check the AMD web site for the proper supply recomendation. Aside from that
it should work.

"Paul Isaacs" <paul.isaacs@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ujwRd.31918$f%5.19851@trndny03...
> My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8 NeoPlat2
> with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have trouble
> getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except for the old
> system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition ok? Using
> WindowsXP. Any tips?
>

Ext User(Hans Wankle)
04-10-2011, 08:59 PM
Just make sure your Power Supply is strong enough to supply the new system.
Check the AMD web site for the proper supply recomendation. Aside from that
it should work.

"Paul Isaacs" <paul.isaacs@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ujwRd.31918$f%5.19851@trndny03...
> My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8 NeoPlat2
> with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have trouble
> getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except for the old
> system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition ok? Using
> WindowsXP. Any tips?
>

Ext User(Paul Isaacs)
04-10-2011, 09:00 PM
My Antec 430w should do the trick. If not a friend has a 480w that I can
get. I also should have indicated more clearly that I want to use my old hd
without reinstalling WindowsXP and all my software and settings. Will that
be ok?
Thanks Hans.

"Hans Wankle" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:bsidnUeqb7bePovfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
> Just make sure your Power Supply is strong enough to supply the new
> system. Check the AMD web site for the proper supply recomendation. Aside
> from that it should work.
>
> "Paul Isaacs" <paul.isaacs@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:ujwRd.31918$f%5.19851@trndny03...
>> My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8 NeoPlat2
>> with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have trouble
>> getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except for the
>> old system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition ok? Using
>> WindowsXP. Any tips?
>>
>
>

Ext User(Paul Isaacs)
04-10-2011, 09:00 PM
My Antec 430w should do the trick. If not a friend has a 480w that I can
get. I also should have indicated more clearly that I want to use my old hd
without reinstalling WindowsXP and all my software and settings. Will that
be ok?
Thanks Hans.

"Hans Wankle" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in message
news:bsidnUeqb7bePovfRVn-jg@comcast.com...
> Just make sure your Power Supply is strong enough to supply the new
> system. Check the AMD web site for the proper supply recomendation. Aside
> from that it should work.
>
> "Paul Isaacs" <paul.isaacs@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:ujwRd.31918$f%5.19851@trndny03...
>> My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8 NeoPlat2
>> with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have trouble
>> getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except for the
>> old system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition ok? Using
>> WindowsXP. Any tips?
>>
>
>

Ext User(spodosaurus)
04-10-2011, 09:00 PM
Paul Isaacs wrote:
> My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8 NeoPlat2
> with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have trouble
> getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except for the old
> system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition ok? Using
> WindowsXP. Any tips?
>
>

You mean the K8N, right? There is no 8N8 that I can see. No, you can't
just swap the mainboards and everything will be alright. The mainboard
drivers are different. WindowsXP will not boot. You can do a clean
install (recommended) or a repair install (use the winxp cdrom as if
you're going to install fresh, and it'll detect your old installation
and offer to repair/reinstall xp). This is a question that has been
asked often. A google search of this newsgroup will get you a lot of
different answers.

Cheers,

Ari

--
spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

Ext User(spodosaurus)
04-10-2011, 09:00 PM
Paul Isaacs wrote:
> My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8 NeoPlat2
> with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have trouble
> getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except for the old
> system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition ok? Using
> WindowsXP. Any tips?
>
>

You mean the K8N, right? There is no 8N8 that I can see. No, you can't
just swap the mainboards and everything will be alright. The mainboard
drivers are different. WindowsXP will not boot. You can do a clean
install (recommended) or a repair install (use the winxp cdrom as if
you're going to install fresh, and it'll detect your old installation
and offer to repair/reinstall xp). This is a question that has been
asked often. A google search of this newsgroup will get you a lot of
different answers.

Cheers,

Ari

--
spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

Ext User(Paul Isaacs)
04-10-2011, 09:00 PM
K8N, typo. I'd love to do a clean install, maybe I will, but I have so much
software stuff that I'd like to keep. Thanks Ari.

"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
news:42178f36$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> Paul Isaacs wrote:
>> My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8 NeoPlat2
>> with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have trouble
>> getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except for the
>> old system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition ok? Using
>> WindowsXP. Any tips?
>
> You mean the K8N, right? There is no 8N8 that I can see. No, you can't
> just swap the mainboards and everything will be alright. The mainboard
> drivers are different. WindowsXP will not boot. You can do a clean install
> (recommended) or a repair install (use the winxp cdrom as if you're going
> to install fresh, and it'll detect your old installation and offer to
> repair/reinstall xp). This is a question that has been asked often. A
> google search of this newsgroup will get you a lot of different answers.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ari
>
> --
> spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo
>
> I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
> neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
> hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
> marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
> transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
> http://www.abmdr.org.au/
> http://www.marrow.org/

Ext User(Paul Isaacs)
04-10-2011, 09:00 PM
K8N, typo. I'd love to do a clean install, maybe I will, but I have so much
software stuff that I'd like to keep. Thanks Ari.

"spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
news:42178f36$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
> Paul Isaacs wrote:
>> My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8 NeoPlat2
>> with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have trouble
>> getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except for the
>> old system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition ok? Using
>> WindowsXP. Any tips?
>
> You mean the K8N, right? There is no 8N8 that I can see. No, you can't
> just swap the mainboards and everything will be alright. The mainboard
> drivers are different. WindowsXP will not boot. You can do a clean install
> (recommended) or a repair install (use the winxp cdrom as if you're going
> to install fresh, and it'll detect your old installation and offer to
> repair/reinstall xp). This is a question that has been asked often. A
> google search of this newsgroup will get you a lot of different answers.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Ari
>
> --
> spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo
>
> I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
> neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
> hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
> marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
> transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
> http://www.abmdr.org.au/
> http://www.marrow.org/

Ext User(Art)
04-10-2011, 09:00 PM
>> Paul Isaacs wrote:
>>> My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8 NeoPlat2
>>> with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have trouble
>>> getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except for the
>>> old system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition ok? Using
>>> WindowsXP. Any tips?


> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
> news:42178f36$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>> You mean the K8N, right? There is no 8N8 that I can see. No, you can't
>> just swap the mainboards and everything will be alright. The mainboard
>> drivers are different. WindowsXP will not boot. You can do a clean
>> install (recommended) or a repair install (use the winxp cdrom as if
>> you're going to install fresh, and it'll detect your old installation and
>> offer to repair/reinstall xp). This is a question that has been asked
>> often. A google search of this newsgroup will get you a lot of different
>> answers.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ari
>> --
>> spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo
>>
>> I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
>> neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
>> hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
>> marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
>> transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
>> http://www.abmdr.org.au/
>> http://www.marrow.org/


"Paul Isaacs" <paul.isaacs@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:XWMRd.26413$ya6.3310@trndny01...
> K8N, typo. I'd love to do a clean install, maybe I will, but I have so
> much software stuff that I'd like to keep. Thanks Ari.


Paul:
There's really no reason why you can't perform a Repair install of XP
following a motherboard change. As a matter of fact, there's even a chance
that the system *will* boot even after a new motherboard has been installed.
As we've learned from experience it does happen in a significant number of
cases. Naturally you'll need whatever drivers the new MB calls for, but I'm
sure you already know that. Most likely (but again, not always) you'll have
to go through the XP Activation process again.

Should the system not boot following a motherboard change (the likely
scenario) you'll need to perform a Repair install of XP. The advantage to a
Repair install is that your programs and data will be retained. Naturally
you should make backups of critical files prior to performing a Repair
install. There's no reason to undertake a fresh install unless you want to
for some reason. A Google search of "xp repair install", or some such, will
provide you with a wealth of detailed information on performing a Repair
install.
Art

Ext User(Art)
04-10-2011, 09:00 PM
>> Paul Isaacs wrote:
>>> My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8 NeoPlat2
>>> with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have trouble
>>> getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except for the
>>> old system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition ok? Using
>>> WindowsXP. Any tips?


> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
> news:42178f36$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>> You mean the K8N, right? There is no 8N8 that I can see. No, you can't
>> just swap the mainboards and everything will be alright. The mainboard
>> drivers are different. WindowsXP will not boot. You can do a clean
>> install (recommended) or a repair install (use the winxp cdrom as if
>> you're going to install fresh, and it'll detect your old installation and
>> offer to repair/reinstall xp). This is a question that has been asked
>> often. A google search of this newsgroup will get you a lot of different
>> answers.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Ari
>> --
>> spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo
>>
>> I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
>> neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
>> hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
>> marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
>> transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
>> http://www.abmdr.org.au/
>> http://www.marrow.org/


"Paul Isaacs" <paul.isaacs@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:XWMRd.26413$ya6.3310@trndny01...
> K8N, typo. I'd love to do a clean install, maybe I will, but I have so
> much software stuff that I'd like to keep. Thanks Ari.


Paul:
There's really no reason why you can't perform a Repair install of XP
following a motherboard change. As a matter of fact, there's even a chance
that the system *will* boot even after a new motherboard has been installed.
As we've learned from experience it does happen in a significant number of
cases. Naturally you'll need whatever drivers the new MB calls for, but I'm
sure you already know that. Most likely (but again, not always) you'll have
to go through the XP Activation process again.

Should the system not boot following a motherboard change (the likely
scenario) you'll need to perform a Repair install of XP. The advantage to a
Repair install is that your programs and data will be retained. Naturally
you should make backups of critical files prior to performing a Repair
install. There's no reason to undertake a fresh install unless you want to
for some reason. A Google search of "xp repair install", or some such, will
provide you with a wealth of detailed information on performing a Repair
install.
Art

Ext User(Paul Isaacs)
04-10-2011, 09:00 PM
Thanks Art. I've building my own computers and wrestling with windows for
the last 7-10 years so I should get through this but with the new brand of
mb and the 64bit/939 cpu I just wasn't sure. So I'll probably do the
re-install route. I'm not worried about reactivation. They hardly ask you
anything and give you a new number without any hassle.

"Art" <Anonymous@notanisp.com> wrote in message
news:4aydnagiPLFkOIrfRVn-pQ@adelphia.com...
>>> Paul Isaacs wrote:
>>>> My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8
>>>> NeoPlat2 with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have
>>>> trouble getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except
>>>> for the old system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition
>>>> ok? Using WindowsXP. Any tips?
>
>
>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>> news:42178f36$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>> You mean the K8N, right? There is no 8N8 that I can see. No, you can't
>>> just swap the mainboards and everything will be alright. The mainboard
>>> drivers are different. WindowsXP will not boot. You can do a clean
>>> install (recommended) or a repair install (use the winxp cdrom as if
>>> you're going to install fresh, and it'll detect your old installation
>>> and offer to repair/reinstall xp). This is a question that has been
>>> asked often. A google search of this newsgroup will get you a lot of
>>> different answers.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Ari
>>> --
>>> spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo
>>>
>>> I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
>>> neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
>>> hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
>>> marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
>>> transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
>>> http://www.abmdr.org.au/
>>> http://www.marrow.org/
>
>
> "Paul Isaacs" <paul.isaacs@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:XWMRd.26413$ya6.3310@trndny01...
>> K8N, typo. I'd love to do a clean install, maybe I will, but I have so
>> much software stuff that I'd like to keep. Thanks Ari.
>
>
> Paul:
> There's really no reason why you can't perform a Repair install of XP
> following a motherboard change. As a matter of fact, there's even a chance
> that the system *will* boot even after a new motherboard has been
> installed. As we've learned from experience it does happen in a
> significant number of cases. Naturally you'll need whatever drivers the
> new MB calls for, but I'm sure you already know that. Most likely (but
> again, not always) you'll have to go through the XP Activation process
> again.
>
> Should the system not boot following a motherboard change (the likely
> scenario) you'll need to perform a Repair install of XP. The advantage to
> a Repair install is that your programs and data will be retained.
> Naturally you should make backups of critical files prior to performing a
> Repair install. There's no reason to undertake a fresh install unless you
> want to for some reason. A Google search of "xp repair install", or some
> such, will provide you with a wealth of detailed information on performing
> a Repair install.
> Art
>

Ext User(Paul Isaacs)
04-10-2011, 09:00 PM
Thanks Art. I've building my own computers and wrestling with windows for
the last 7-10 years so I should get through this but with the new brand of
mb and the 64bit/939 cpu I just wasn't sure. So I'll probably do the
re-install route. I'm not worried about reactivation. They hardly ask you
anything and give you a new number without any hassle.

"Art" <Anonymous@notanisp.com> wrote in message
news:4aydnagiPLFkOIrfRVn-pQ@adelphia.com...
>>> Paul Isaacs wrote:
>>>> My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8
>>>> NeoPlat2 with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have
>>>> trouble getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except
>>>> for the old system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition
>>>> ok? Using WindowsXP. Any tips?
>
>
>> "spodosaurus" <spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com> wrote in message
>> news:42178f36$1@quokka.wn.com.au...
>>> You mean the K8N, right? There is no 8N8 that I can see. No, you can't
>>> just swap the mainboards and everything will be alright. The mainboard
>>> drivers are different. WindowsXP will not boot. You can do a clean
>>> install (recommended) or a repair install (use the winxp cdrom as if
>>> you're going to install fresh, and it'll detect your old installation
>>> and offer to repair/reinstall xp). This is a question that has been
>>> asked often. A google search of this newsgroup will get you a lot of
>>> different answers.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>> Ari
>>> --
>>> spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo
>>>
>>> I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
>>> neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
>>> hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
>>> marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
>>> transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
>>> http://www.abmdr.org.au/
>>> http://www.marrow.org/
>
>
> "Paul Isaacs" <paul.isaacs@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:XWMRd.26413$ya6.3310@trndny01...
>> K8N, typo. I'd love to do a clean install, maybe I will, but I have so
>> much software stuff that I'd like to keep. Thanks Ari.
>
>
> Paul:
> There's really no reason why you can't perform a Repair install of XP
> following a motherboard change. As a matter of fact, there's even a chance
> that the system *will* boot even after a new motherboard has been
> installed. As we've learned from experience it does happen in a
> significant number of cases. Naturally you'll need whatever drivers the
> new MB calls for, but I'm sure you already know that. Most likely (but
> again, not always) you'll have to go through the XP Activation process
> again.
>
> Should the system not boot following a motherboard change (the likely
> scenario) you'll need to perform a Repair install of XP. The advantage to
> a Repair install is that your programs and data will be retained.
> Naturally you should make backups of critical files prior to performing a
> Repair install. There's no reason to undertake a fresh install unless you
> want to for some reason. A Google search of "xp repair install", or some
> such, will provide you with a wealth of detailed information on performing
> a Repair install.
> Art
>

Ext User(DaveW)
04-10-2011, 09:00 PM
If you change the motherboard in a Windows OS computer system, then you MUST
reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS. Otherwise you will
get nasty Registry errors and data corruption.

--
DaveW



"Paul Isaacs" <paul.isaacs@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ujwRd.31918$f%5.19851@trndny03...
> My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8 NeoPlat2
> with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have trouble
> getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except for the old
> system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition ok? Using
> WindowsXP. Any tips?
>

Ext User(DaveW)
04-10-2011, 09:00 PM
If you change the motherboard in a Windows OS computer system, then you MUST
reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS. Otherwise you will
get nasty Registry errors and data corruption.

--
DaveW



"Paul Isaacs" <paul.isaacs@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:ujwRd.31918$f%5.19851@trndny03...
> My old board is a Abit KR7A and I'm replacing it with a MSI 8N8 NeoPlat2
> with a new Athlon64 3200+ and new Corsair memory. Will I have trouble
> getting my system going if I remove all the peripherals except for the old
> system's hd, video, mouse & keyboard or will it transition ok? Using
> WindowsXP. Any tips?
>

Ext User(David Maynard)
04-10-2011, 09:01 PM
DaveW wrote:

> If you change the motherboard in a Windows OS computer system, then you MUST
> reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS. Otherwise you will
> get nasty Registry errors and data corruption.
>

Why do you insist on repeating this falsehood over and over?

Ext User(David Maynard)
04-10-2011, 09:01 PM
DaveW wrote:

> If you change the motherboard in a Windows OS computer system, then you MUST
> reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS. Otherwise you will
> get nasty Registry errors and data corruption.
>

Why do you insist on repeating this falsehood over and over?

Ext User(spodosaurus)
04-10-2011, 09:01 PM
David Maynard wrote:
> DaveW wrote:
>
>> If you change the motherboard in a Windows OS computer system, then
>> you MUST reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS.
>> Otherwise you will get nasty Registry errors and data corruption.
>>
>
> Why do you insist on repeating this falsehood over and over?
>

OCD? heh

--
spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

Ext User(spodosaurus)
04-10-2011, 09:01 PM
David Maynard wrote:
> DaveW wrote:
>
>> If you change the motherboard in a Windows OS computer system, then
>> you MUST reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS.
>> Otherwise you will get nasty Registry errors and data corruption.
>>
>
> Why do you insist on repeating this falsehood over and over?
>

OCD? heh

--
spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

Ext User(Matt)
04-10-2011, 09:02 PM
spodosaurus wrote:
> David Maynard wrote:
>
>> DaveW wrote:
>>
>>> If you change the motherboard in a Windows OS computer system, then
>>> you MUST reformat the harddrive and do a fresh install of the OS.
>>> Otherwise you will get nasty Registry errors and data corruption.
>>>
>>
>> Why do you insist on repeating this falsehood over and over?
>>
>
> OCD? heh
>

But he is not obsessed with the replies that deny his claim---he never
responds.

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