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AU Digital Photo Of The Day
27-11-2003, 06:58 PM
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> "Glen F" <gfergusFURPHY@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> > > Thanks Rusty, I knew I could get one of these, but was just wondering.
> > > I have since received a reply from a guy in California, whose 60CT-4
> > > triggers at 9V. (Just FYI).
> >
> > How do you measure the trigger voltage? Pulse is short, so I guess an
> > oscilloscope is required?
> >
> >
>
> Trigger Voltage is measured across the 2 primary terminals when the flash
is
> fully charged and during the flash pulse.
>
>
Let me try that again.....
Trigger Voltage is measured across the 2 primary terminals when the flash is
fully charged and "not" during the flash pulse.
.....that's better. :-)
"AU Digital Photo Of The Day" <adpotd@pixelpix.com.au> wrote in message
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> "AU Digital Photo Of The Day" <adpotd@pixelpix.com.au> wrote in message
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> > "Glen F" <gfergusFURPHY@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:UJfxb.2760$xm.114304@nasal.pacific.net.au...
> > > > Thanks Rusty, I knew I could get one of these, but was just
wondering.
> > > > I have since received a reply from a guy in California, whose 60CT-4
> > > > triggers at 9V. (Just FYI).
> > >
> > > How do you measure the trigger voltage? Pulse is short, so I guess an
> > > oscilloscope is required?
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Trigger Voltage is measured across the 2 primary terminals when the
flash
> is
> > fully charged and during the flash pulse.
> >
> >
> Let me try that again.....
>
> Trigger Voltage is measured across the 2 primary terminals when the flash
is
> fully charged and "not" during the flash pulse.
>
> ....that's better. :-)
Is this an actual voltage or an inductance charge.
AU Digital Photo Of The Day
28-11-2003, 07:08 AM
" Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "AU Digital Photo Of The Day" <adpotd@pixelpix.com.au> wrote in message
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> > "AU Digital Photo Of The Day" <adpotd@pixelpix.com.au> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > "Glen F" <gfergusFURPHY@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:UJfxb.2760$xm.114304@nasal.pacific.net.au...
> > > > > Thanks Rusty, I knew I could get one of these, but was just
> wondering.
> > > > > I have since received a reply from a guy in California, whose
60CT-4
> > > > > triggers at 9V. (Just FYI).
> > > >
> > > > How do you measure the trigger voltage? Pulse is short, so I guess
an
> > > > oscilloscope is required?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Trigger Voltage is measured across the 2 primary terminals when the
> flash
> > is
> > > fully charged and during the flash pulse.
> > >
> > >
> > Let me try that again.....
> >
> > Trigger Voltage is measured across the 2 primary terminals when the
flash
> is
> > fully charged and "not" during the flash pulse.
> >
> > ....that's better. :-)
>
> Is this an actual voltage or an inductance charge.
>
>
I dunno who, what, where or why it's there, but it is an actual voltage
across the two terminals.
Bruce Murphy
28-11-2003, 08:38 PM
" Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
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> > "AU Digital Photo Of The Day" <adpotd@pixelpix.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:bq4a4l$s62$1@austar-news.austar.net.au...
> > > Trigger Voltage is measured across the 2 primary terminals when the
> flash
> > is
> > > fully charged and during the flash pulse.
> > >
> > >
> > Let me try that again.....
> >
> > Trigger Voltage is measured across the 2 primary terminals when the flash
> is
> > fully charged and "not" during the flash pulse.
> >
> > ....that's better. :-)
>
> Is this an actual voltage or an inductance charge.
This would be what causes lighting to show up on a capacitance meter?
A voltage is a voltage. It can be electrostatic or electrodynamic, but
these are just handy labels for measurement regimes -- it doesn't
refer to a different type of 'voltage'.
You'd be wanting to measure it with some sort of voltage meter that
you potentially didn't mind getting a large voltage across it, and
which had a high enough internal resistance that it didn't trigger the
flash.
B>
"Bruce Murphy" <pack-news@rattus.net> wrote in message
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> " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> > "AU Digital Photo Of The Day" <adpotd@pixelpix.com.au> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > "AU Digital Photo Of The Day" <adpotd@pixelpix.com.au> wrote in
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> > > news:bq4a4l$s62$1@austar-news.austar.net.au...
>
> > > > Trigger Voltage is measured across the 2 primary terminals when the
> > flash
> > > is
> > > > fully charged and during the flash pulse.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Let me try that again.....
> > >
> > > Trigger Voltage is measured across the 2 primary terminals when the
flash
> > is
> > > fully charged and "not" during the flash pulse.
> > >
> > > ....that's better. :-)
> >
> > Is this an actual voltage or an inductance charge.
>
> This would be what causes lighting to show up on a capacitance meter?
> A voltage is a voltage. It can be electrostatic or electrodynamic, but
> these are just handy labels for measurement regimes -- it doesn't
> refer to a different type of 'voltage'.
>
> You'd be wanting to measure it with some sort of voltage meter that
> you potentially didn't mind getting a large voltage across it, and
> which had a high enough internal resistance that it didn't trigger the
> flash.
>
> B>
Would you use the same circuit to "block" the voltage if it is all the same.
How it is generated has no effect on how it is controlled ?
Bruce Murphy
30-11-2003, 03:49 PM
" Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
> "Bruce Murphy" <pack-news@rattus.net> wrote in message
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> > " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > Is this an actual voltage or an inductance charge.
> >
> > This would be what causes lighting to show up on a capacitance meter?
> > A voltage is a voltage. It can be electrostatic or electrodynamic, but
> > these are just handy labels for measurement regimes -- it doesn't
> > refer to a different type of 'voltage'.
> >
> > You'd be wanting to measure it with some sort of voltage meter that
> > you potentially didn't mind getting a large voltage across it, and
> > which had a high enough internal resistance that it didn't trigger the
> > flash.
>
> Would you use the same circuit to "block" the voltage if it is all the same.
> How it is generated has no effect on how it is controlled ?
Firstly, circuits don't "block" voltage in any sense. Secondly, the
manner in which a voltage is generated is completely irrelevant to how
you make use of it (probably what you have in mind when you say
"controlled"). The only points of interest are the voltage, the energy
difference a charge would have at two different points, and the amount
of charge you've got available to slosh around over that difference.
Look, you're way out of your depth. Why don't you just make a mental
note to never comment on electronic/electrical matters?
B>
On 30 Nov 2003 12:36:53 +0800, Bruce Murphy <pack-news@rattus.net>
wrote:
>" Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
>
>> Would you use the same circuit to "block" the voltage if it is all the same.
>> How it is generated has no effect on how it is controlled ?
>Look, you're way out of your depth. Why don't you just make a mental
>note to never comment on electronic/electrical matters?
>
>B>
LOL. That sounds like Miro all right, way out of his depth! :-)
Regards,
Rudi
http://www.rudiphoto.net/
"Bruce Murphy" <pack-news@rattus.net> wrote in message
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> " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> > "Bruce Murphy" <pack-news@rattus.net> wrote in message
> > news:m2isl4sv3p.fsf@fuscipes.rattus.net...
> > > " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > > Is this an actual voltage or an inductance charge.
> > >
> > > This would be what causes lighting to show up on a capacitance meter?
> > > A voltage is a voltage. It can be electrostatic or electrodynamic, but
> > > these are just handy labels for measurement regimes -- it doesn't
> > > refer to a different type of 'voltage'.
> > >
> > > You'd be wanting to measure it with some sort of voltage meter that
> > > you potentially didn't mind getting a large voltage across it, and
> > > which had a high enough internal resistance that it didn't trigger the
> > > flash.
> >
> > Would you use the same circuit to "block" the voltage if it is all the
same.
> > How it is generated has no effect on how it is controlled ?
>
> Firstly, circuits don't "block" voltage in any sense. Secondly, the
> manner in which a voltage is generated is completely irrelevant to how
> you make use of it (probably what you have in mind when you say
> "controlled"). The only points of interest are the voltage, the energy
> difference a charge would have at two different points, and the amount
> of charge you've got available to slosh around over that difference.
>
> Look, you're way out of your depth. Why don't you just make a mental
> note to never comment on electronic/electrical matters?
>
> B>
I am always amazed at how often you spout answers without actually relating
them to the question.
AU Digital Photo Of The Day
01-12-2003, 11:39 AM
" Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Bruce Murphy" <pack-news@rattus.net> wrote in message
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> > " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > "Bruce Murphy" <pack-news@rattus.net> wrote in message
> > > news:m2isl4sv3p.fsf@fuscipes.rattus.net...
> > > > " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > > > Is this an actual voltage or an inductance charge.
> > > >
> > > > This would be what causes lighting to show up on a capacitance
meter?
> > > > A voltage is a voltage. It can be electrostatic or electrodynamic,
but
> > > > these are just handy labels for measurement regimes -- it doesn't
> > > > refer to a different type of 'voltage'.
> > > >
> > > > You'd be wanting to measure it with some sort of voltage meter that
> > > > you potentially didn't mind getting a large voltage across it, and
> > > > which had a high enough internal resistance that it didn't trigger
the
> > > > flash.
> > >
> > > Would you use the same circuit to "block" the voltage if it is all the
> same.
> > > How it is generated has no effect on how it is controlled ?
> >
> > Firstly, circuits don't "block" voltage in any sense. Secondly, the
> > manner in which a voltage is generated is completely irrelevant to how
> > you make use of it (probably what you have in mind when you say
> > "controlled"). The only points of interest are the voltage, the energy
> > difference a charge would have at two different points, and the amount
> > of charge you've got available to slosh around over that difference.
> >
> > Look, you're way out of your depth. Why don't you just make a mental
> > note to never comment on electronic/electrical matters?
> >
> > B>
>
> I am always amazed at how often you spout answers without actually
relating
> them to the question.
>
>
LOL!!! Thanks Miro, that is the best laugh I have had in a long time.
Bruce Murphy
01-12-2003, 03:09 PM
" Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
> "Bruce Murphy" <pack-news@rattus.net> wrote in message
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> > " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
> >
> > > "Bruce Murphy" <pack-news@rattus.net> wrote in message
> > > news:m2isl4sv3p.fsf@fuscipes.rattus.net...
> > > > " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > > > Is this an actual voltage or an inductance charge.
> > > >
> > > > This would be what causes lighting to show up on a capacitance meter?
> > > > A voltage is a voltage. It can be electrostatic or electrodynamic, but
> > > > these are just handy labels for measurement regimes -- it doesn't
> > > > refer to a different type of 'voltage'.
> > > >
> > > > You'd be wanting to measure it with some sort of voltage meter that
> > > > you potentially didn't mind getting a large voltage across it, and
> > > > which had a high enough internal resistance that it didn't trigger the
> > > > flash.
> > >
> > > Would you use the same circuit to "block" the voltage if it is all the
> same.
> > > How it is generated has no effect on how it is controlled ?
> >
> > Firstly, circuits don't "block" voltage in any sense. Secondly, the
> > manner in which a voltage is generated is completely irrelevant to how
> > you make use of it (probably what you have in mind when you say
> > "controlled"). The only points of interest are the voltage, the energy
> > difference a charge would have at two different points, and the amount
> > of charge you've got available to slosh around over that difference.
> >
> > Look, you're way out of your depth. Why don't you just make a mental
> > note to never comment on electronic/electrical matters?
>
> I am always amazed at how often you spout answers without actually relating
> them to the question.
The question? Which question? Your mindless question didn't make any
sense at all, for reasons I discussed above, and the original
question, I answered two posts ago.
B>
"Bruce Murphy" <pack-news@rattus.net> wrote in message
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> " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
>
> > "Bruce Murphy" <pack-news@rattus.net> wrote in message
> > news:m2ekvqsc9m.fsf@fuscipes.rattus.net...
> > > " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
> > >
> > > > "Bruce Murphy" <pack-news@rattus.net> wrote in message
> > > > news:m2isl4sv3p.fsf@fuscipes.rattus.net...
> > > > > " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> writes:
> > > > > > Is this an actual voltage or an inductance charge.
> > > > >
> > > > > This would be what causes lighting to show up on a capacitance
meter?
> > > > > A voltage is a voltage. It can be electrostatic or electrodynamic,
but
> > > > > these are just handy labels for measurement regimes -- it doesn't
> > > > > refer to a different type of 'voltage'.
> > > > >
> > > > > You'd be wanting to measure it with some sort of voltage meter
that
> > > > > you potentially didn't mind getting a large voltage across it, and
> > > > > which had a high enough internal resistance that it didn't trigger
the
> > > > > flash.
> > > >
> > > > Would you use the same circuit to "block" the voltage if it is all
the
> > same.
> > > > How it is generated has no effect on how it is controlled ?
> > >
> > > Firstly, circuits don't "block" voltage in any sense. Secondly, the
> > > manner in which a voltage is generated is completely irrelevant to how
> > > you make use of it (probably what you have in mind when you say
> > > "controlled"). The only points of interest are the voltage, the energy
> > > difference a charge would have at two different points, and the amount
> > > of charge you've got available to slosh around over that difference.
> > >
> > > Look, you're way out of your depth. Why don't you just make a mental
> > > note to never comment on electronic/electrical matters?
> >
> > I am always amazed at how often you spout answers without actually
relating
> > them to the question.
>
> The question? Which question? Your mindless question didn't make any
> sense at all, for reasons I discussed above, and the original
> question, I answered two posts ago.
>
> B>
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