Pulling Portra 160 VC to 100 for portraiture?

[[BnH]]

Is it adviseable ?

as I shot and shot [4 rols only tho] and always get the grain I hate.
Give them to Photoking and Platinum Imaging to develop, but still I have
lots of grains.
So it can't be the lab fault.

Recently I shot an expired Kodak Gold 100 and pull it to 50 and now I like
what I see :)

Or is there any other good film for outdoor potraiture you can recommend ?
or the one that outdoor photographer use to shoot models ?

thanks.

=bob=

[Wiz]

[BnH] wrote:
> Is it adviseable ?
>
> as I shot and shot [4 rols only tho] and always get the grain I hate.
> Give them to Photoking and Platinum Imaging to develop, but still I have
> lots of grains.
> So it can't be the lab fault.
>


Generally I shoot at 100/125asa for porta 160 and make sure that the
process is also pushed 10%. Isn't there something in the tech sheets on
this?

> Recently I shot an expired Kodak Gold 100 and pull it to 50 and now I like
> what I see :)
>
> Or is there any other good film for outdoor potraiture you can recommend ?
> or the one that outdoor photographer use to shoot models ?
>
> thanks.
>
> =bob=
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[Tony Clark]

Why on earth would you pull, unless it's for effect? The films latitude
should be fine from 80 to 320. Color negative film is very forgiving and
a good pro lab can make beautiful prints from 160VC. I shoot quite a few
models in natural light and in the studio with very nice results. I
usually rate the film at 120 and process normal. My only questions are,
how are you metering and are you at the edge of usable exposure i.e.
F2.8 @ 1/15? Perhaps you need a reflector or heaven forbid a little fill
flash. Good luck, Tony

[BnH] wrote:

> Is it adviseable ?
>
> as I shot and shot [4 rols only tho] and always get the grain I hate.
> Give them to Photoking and Platinum Imaging to develop, but still I have
> lots of grains.
> So it can't be the lab fault.
>
> Recently I shot an expired Kodak Gold 100 and pull it to 50 and now I like
> what I see :)
>
> Or is there any other good film for outdoor potraiture you can recommend ?
> or the one that outdoor photographer use to shoot models ?
>
> thanks.
>
> =bob=
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

[[BnH]]

I was unlucky to shot all those 4 rolls in cloudy conditions.

But I normally get 1/60" @ f/2.8 for those shot.
There was a few frame where I got 1/250" @ f/5.6 ... but it was a bit
grainy too not like what I was expecting from a pro rated film.
anyway I'll try rate it @ 125 or maybe 100 this weekend n see how it goes.

Thx.

"Tony Clark" <tcphoto@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:Bmoxb.19248$sb4.2791@newsread2.news.pas.earth link.net...
> Why on earth would you pull, unless it's for effect? The films latitude
> should be fine from 80 to 320. Color negative film is very forgiving and
> a good pro lab can make beautiful prints from 160VC. I shoot quite a few
> models in natural light and in the studio with very nice results. I
> usually rate the film at 120 and process normal. My only questions are,
> how are you metering and are you at the edge of usable exposure i.e.
> F2.8 @ 1/15? Perhaps you need a reflector or heaven forbid a little fill
> flash. Good luck, Tony

[Alan Browne]

[BnH] wrote:

> Is it adviseable ?
>
> as I shot and shot [4 rols only tho] and always get the grain I hate.
> Give them to Photoking and Platinum Imaging to develop, but still I have
> lots of grains.
> So it can't be the lab fault.
>
> Recently I shot an expired Kodak Gold 100 and pull it to 50 and now I like
> what I see :)
>
> Or is there any other good film for outdoor potraiture you can recommend ?
> or the one that outdoor photographer use to shoot models ?
>
> thanks.
>
> =bob=

The more 'common' rating of Portra 160 is 100 with no change in
development. Nice crisp colors.

If you are getting them developed at a chain, the development might be
fine, but the prints might be crap.

I did push a roll once and the results were less than admirable.

--
e-meil: there's no such thing as a FreeLunch.

[Timo Labrenz]

Alan Browne <alan.browne@FreeLunchVideotron.ca> schrieb:

> The more 'common' rating of Portra 160 is 100 with no change in
> development. Nice crisp colors.

Yep.
But even at 160ASA, I wouldn't call the film grainy. It's my standard
film for portraits and weddings (outside only of course, inside I take
Portra 400NC), and I always had low grain. Just checked again, and in
comparison to other films I've tried, it's really low grain *shrug*

> I did push a roll once and the results were less than admirable.

Once had the camera still set to 400ASA accidentally, so only a little
more then 1 step difference. Got the film pushed, and, well, I didn't
let the customer pay for the pictures. This film really shouldn't be
pushed.

Bob, I'm not kidding when I say that you should try a roll of Ferrania
Solaris 100, if you can get one. (Gosh, now everyone will think I'm
crazy.) It's a cheap film, but it's nice and has low grain. I think it
doesn't have such a high resolution/sharpness, but it's IMHO okay for
portraits. It's my alternative film when I forget to order Portra 160NC
(like today, ordered about 140 rolls* and forgot the Portra again...
got to call the shop tomorrow morning...).

Timo

*No, not all of them for me, but I'll go to England over Xmas and will
need many rolls there, I hope :)
BTW, is there anyone from Leicester in this newsgroup?

[Andrew Hennell]

On Thu, 27 Nov 2003 22:19:46 +1100, "[BnH]" <b18ATiinetDOTnetDOTaus>
wrote:

>Or is there any other good film for outdoor potraiture you can recommend ?
>or the one that outdoor photographer use to shoot models ?

I alternate between Fuji NPH & PortraNC (160 or 400). Recently I've
started ditching my beloved Velvia for PortraVC! Gasp!

I suspect something in your shooting technique, or the camera's not
metering correctly (when was it last serviced?), as I find the Portra
films to be great grain-wise.

[Peter Chant]

In article <bq5kfh$1ua4p5$1@id-51354.news.uni-berlin.de>,
Timo Labrenz <tlab3000@tlab3000.de> writes:
>
> *No, not all of them for me, but I'll go to England over Xmas and will
> need many rolls there, I hope :)

Goodness, you do reallise that people do sell film over here. Mind you
with that quantity you could clean out some shops for part of their range
easily.

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http://www.petezilla.co.uk

[Timo Labrenz]

pete@petezilla.co.uk (Peter Chant) schrieb:
> Timo Labrenz <tlab3000@tlab3000.de> writes:

>> *No, not all of them for me, but I'll go to England over Xmas and
>> will need many rolls there, I hope :)

> Goodness, you do reallise that people do sell film over here.
> Mind you with that quantity you could clean out some shops for
> part of their range easily.

:) I sure like the idea of going to a shop and say "I want your film
rolls. All of them."

It was a collective order, only about 70-80 rolls are for me, and I'll
take about 50 rolls with me for the two weeks in Leicester. Maybe
that's more than I'll need, but I don't want to buy film in England.
I'll mainly use Fuji Sensia 100 (36exp) for the ordinary vacation
photos. A roll of it is 2.50 Euros, here, while it's 4.99 Pounds at
Jessops...

Anyone from Leicestershire here?

Timo

[Martin Francis]

"Timo Labrenz" <tlab3000@tlab3000.de> wrote in message
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> pete@petezilla.co.uk (Peter Chant) schrieb:
> :) I sure like the idea of going to a shop and say "I want your film
> rolls. All of them."

Unless you attempt to disguise your (presumably German) accent, you may find
nearly-quoting Schwarzenegger a mistake ;-)

> It was a collective order, only about 70-80 rolls are for me, and I'll
> take about 50 rolls with me for the two weeks in Leicester. Maybe
> that's more than I'll need,

No maybe about it. Although i've never been to Leicester, i've met refugees
that have escaped from there.

> Anyone from Leicestershire here?

No, we all have the requisite number of fingers and toes and heads.

Leicester is the home of the two main camera stores in the UK- Jessops and
Jacobs. Jacobs do decent five and ten-pack prices on film.

--
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He couldn't tell you the technical merits of Leitz and Zeiss
But he did take some photographs once.

[Deathwalker]

"Martin Francis" <removethisbeforeyoureplytoMcsalty@btinternet.com> wrote in
message news:bqbied$cjq$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
> "Timo Labrenz" <tlab3000@tlab3000.de> wrote in message
> news:bqa72m$1pa5hd$1@ID-51354.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > pete@petezilla.co.uk (Peter Chant) schrieb:
> Leicester is the home of the two main camera stores in the UK- Jessops and
> Jacobs. Jacobs do decent five and ten-pack prices on film.

I'm afraid that means sooner or later there will be two jessops stores
instead. World domination is our goal.

[Peter Chant]

In article <WTtyb.15901$z%1.134162530@news-text.cableinet.net>,
"Deathwalker" <ian-lincoln@blueyonder.co.uknospam> writes:
>
> I'm afraid that means sooner or later there will be two jessops stores
> instead. World domination is our goal.

Have you a doomesday device?

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