WHATS A GOOD 66 CM 16:9

[Garry Ozols]

pity that a Loewe is soooo damn expensive. us poor plebs on a budget have
gotta make some decisions based on the best we can afford :-(
Garry

"FruitLoop" <Hyperactive@fruitloop.net> wrote in message
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> THE 66 panasonic I bought for my daughter died a painful death only 13
> months old and only used for dvds .
>
> Just proves once again Loewe is the go
>
>
> "Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:429bcffd$0$8119$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>> I have an LG 66 widescreen and I have none of the problems you have, you
>> sure you don't have it set up wrong (puts on the flame retardant
>> clothing)
>> matter of fact several of my friends come over to my place to watch the
>> football because, even though they have larger screens, I have the best
>> picture.
>> but then your mileage may vary
>> Garry
>>
>> "Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
>> news:d7fc0d$bfp$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
>> > Picture noise , poor picture geometry ,poor colour balance.
>> > Gordon
>> > "undrcovr" <undrcovr.1ptxcf@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
>> > news:undrcovr.1ptxcf@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
>> >>
>> >> Pepe Duran Wrote:
>> >>> DO NOT buy a LG 66cm Wide screen. You will be disappointed.
>> >>> I am.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> any particular reason for this??? :(
>> >>
>> >> (i just bought one)
>> >>
>> >> t
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> undrcovr
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

[FruitLoop]

Loewe 3 YEAR in home warranty


"Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:429bfa24$0$30670$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> pity that a Loewe is soooo damn expensive. us poor plebs on a budget have
> gotta make some decisions based on the best we can afford :-(
> Garry
>
> "FruitLoop" <Hyperactive@fruitloop.net> wrote in message
> news:JCRme.7754$BR4.455@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > THE 66 panasonic I bought for my daughter died a painful death only 13
> > months old and only used for dvds .
> >
> > Just proves once again Loewe is the go
> >
> >
> > "Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:429bcffd$0$8119$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
> >> I have an LG 66 widescreen and I have none of the problems you have,
you
> >> sure you don't have it set up wrong (puts on the flame retardant
> >> clothing)
> >> matter of fact several of my friends come over to my place to watch the
> >> football because, even though they have larger screens, I have the best
> >> picture.
> >> but then your mileage may vary
> >> Garry
> >>
> >> "Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
> >> news:d7fc0d$bfp$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
> >> > Picture noise , poor picture geometry ,poor colour balance.
> >> > Gordon
> >> > "undrcovr" <undrcovr.1ptxcf@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
> >> > news:undrcovr.1ptxcf@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
> >> >>
> >> >> Pepe Duran Wrote:
> >> >>> DO NOT buy a LG 66cm Wide screen. You will be disappointed.
> >> >>> I am.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> any particular reason for this??? :(
> >> >>
> >> >> (i just bought one)
> >> >>
> >> >> t
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> undrcovr
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

[undrcovr]

DO NOT buy a LG 66cm Wide screen. You will be disappointed.
I am.


just outta curiosity, are u reffering to lcd/plasma or conventional tv?

i understood conventional..?!

t

[Garry Ozols]

comprehension was difficult for you at school I see
does the expression "I buy what I can afford" mean anything
warranty is nice, but for us po' folk on a budget, price is king
Garry

"FruitLoop" <Hyperactive@fruitloop.net> wrote in message
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> Loewe 3 YEAR in home warranty
>
>
> "Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:429bfa24$0$30670$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> pity that a Loewe is soooo damn expensive. us poor plebs on a budget have
>> gotta make some decisions based on the best we can afford :-(
>> Garry
>>
>> "FruitLoop" <Hyperactive@fruitloop.net> wrote in message
>> news:JCRme.7754$BR4.455@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> > THE 66 panasonic I bought for my daughter died a painful death only 13
>> > months old and only used for dvds .
>> >
>> > Just proves once again Loewe is the go
>> >
>> >
>> > "Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>> > news:429bcffd$0$8119$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>> >> I have an LG 66 widescreen and I have none of the problems you have,
> you
>> >> sure you don't have it set up wrong (puts on the flame retardant
>> >> clothing)
>> >> matter of fact several of my friends come over to my place to watch
>> >> the
>> >> football because, even though they have larger screens, I have the
>> >> best
>> >> picture.
>> >> but then your mileage may vary
>> >> Garry
>> >>
>> >> "Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
>> >> news:d7fc0d$bfp$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
>> >> > Picture noise , poor picture geometry ,poor colour balance.
>> >> > Gordon
>> >> > "undrcovr" <undrcovr.1ptxcf@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in
>> >> > message
>> >> > news:undrcovr.1ptxcf@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Pepe Duran Wrote:
>> >> >>> DO NOT buy a LG 66cm Wide screen. You will be disappointed.
>> >> >>> I am.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> any particular reason for this??? :(
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (i just bought one)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> t
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> undrcovr
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
>

[Gordon]

"Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:429bcffd$0$8119$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>I have an LG 66 widescreen and I have none of the problems you have, you
>sure you don't have it set up wrong (puts on the flame retardant clothing)
> matter of fact several of my friends come over to my place to watch the
> football because, even though they have larger screens, I have the best
> picture.
> but then your mileage may vary
> Garry
Garry I had 5 of the lg 66cm sets through my house and every one had faults.
Whether it is bad manufacturing or poor quality control LG im my and many
others experience has a very high fault rate.I had 2 100cm rptv's and both
went faulty , a friend had the same model and same experience ,perhaps you
can begin to see why I have little faith in Loadsa Garbage.
Do a google search of the aus. ng's and see how many complaints there are
about LG relative to other brands.
Gordon
>
> "Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
> news:d7fc0d$bfp$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
>> Picture noise , poor picture geometry ,poor colour balance.
>> Gordon
>> "undrcovr" <undrcovr.1ptxcf@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:undrcovr.1ptxcf@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
>>>
>>> Pepe Duran Wrote:
>>>> DO NOT buy a LG 66cm Wide screen. You will be disappointed.
>>>> I am.
>>>
>>>
>>> any particular reason for this??? :(
>>>
>>> (i just bought one)
>>>
>>> t
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> undrcovr
>>
>>
>
>

[Gordon]

"Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:429cfe7d$0$27799$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> comprehension was difficult for you at school I see
> does the expression "I buy what I can afford" mean anything
> warranty is nice, but for us po' folk on a budget, price is king
> Garry
>
Well try Samsung or Teac or one of the other lower priced brands just stay
away from LG.
Gordon

[Garry Ozols]

the only piece of crap I currently have is a Teac STB, it has spent more
time away for warranty work than in the house, as soon as I can afford it,
I'm putting an axe through it and getting a twin tuner Toppy.
I say stay clear of Teac, I have never had a problem with LG :-)
Garry

"Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:429cfe7d$0$27799$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
>> comprehension was difficult for you at school I see
>> does the expression "I buy what I can afford" mean anything
>> warranty is nice, but for us po' folk on a budget, price is king
>> Garry
>>
> Well try Samsung or Teac or one of the other lower priced brands just stay
> away from LG.
> Gordon
>

[Garry Ozols]

"Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:d7ji1c$dn0$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
>
> "Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:429bcffd$0$8119$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>>I have an LG 66 widescreen and I have none of the problems you have, you
>>sure you don't have it set up wrong (puts on the flame retardant clothing)
>> matter of fact several of my friends come over to my place to watch the
>> football because, even though they have larger screens, I have the best
>> picture.
>> but then your mileage may vary
>> Garry
> Garry I had 5 of the lg 66cm sets through my house and every one had
> faults. Whether it is bad manufacturing or poor quality control LG im my
> and many others experience has a very high fault rate.I had 2 100cm rptv's
> and both went faulty , a friend had the same model and same experience
> ,perhaps you can begin to see why I have little faith in Loadsa Garbage.
> Do a google search of the aus. ng's and see how many complaints there are
> about LG relative to other brands.
> Gordon

I understand where your coming from, but my personal experience with LG has
been only good.
I don't know, maybe I've just been lucky, but I have owned several LG
products, not just TV's and have never had a problem with any of them, as a
matter of fact, when I got married, I gave allot of it away to my Wife's
younger brothers so they could set up their first house, the "Good Name
Brand" stuff we kept (wife and I put two houses full of furniture together)
is all now land fill, I visited one of my BIL's the other week and he still
has the LG VCR and Washing machine we gave him, and both still work.
your mileage may vary

[Falco]

The LG 66cm LCD & CRT are both crap.
REALLY poor picture quality
Stay away from both.
Anybody who says otherwise has eye problems.
But don't believe me. Do a google search and find out for yourself..



"undrcovr" <undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
news:undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
>
> Pepe Duran Wrote:
>> DO NOT buy a LG 66cm Wide screen. You will be disappointed.
>> I am.
>
>
> just outta curiosity, are u reffering to lcd/plasma or conventional
> tv?
>
> i understood conventional..?!
>
> t
>
>
> --
> undrcovr

[Garry Ozols]

Well I say otherwise, and if you don't like my opinion, who really cares :-P
Garry

"Falco" <johnyfalco@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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> The LG 66cm LCD & CRT are both crap.
> REALLY poor picture quality
> Stay away from both.
> Anybody who says otherwise has eye problems.
> But don't believe me. Do a google search and find out for yourself..
>
>
>
> "undrcovr" <undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
> news:undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
>>
>> Pepe Duran Wrote:
>>> DO NOT buy a LG 66cm Wide screen. You will be disappointed.
>>> I am.
>>
>>
>> just outta curiosity, are u reffering to lcd/plasma or conventional
>> tv?
>>
>> i understood conventional..?!
>>
>> t
>>
>>
>> --
>> undrcovr
>
>

[Gordon]

"Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:429cfe7d$0$27799$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> comprehension was difficult for you at school I see
> does the expression "I buy what I can afford" mean anything
> warranty is nice, but for us po' folk on a budget, price is king
> Garry
>
Well try Samsung or Teac or one of the other lower priced brands just stay
away from LG.
Gordon

[Gordon]

"Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:429dbb9a$0$5176$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>
> "Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
> news:d7ji1c$dn0$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
>>
>> "Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:429bcffd$0$8119$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>>>I have an LG 66 widescreen and I have none of the problems you have, you
>>>sure you don't have it set up wrong (puts on the flame retardant
>>>clothing)
>>> matter of fact several of my friends come over to my place to watch the
>>> football because, even though they have larger screens, I have the best
>>> picture.
>>> but then your mileage may vary
>>> Garry
>> Garry I had 5 of the lg 66cm sets through my house and every one had
>> faults. Whether it is bad manufacturing or poor quality control LG im my
>> and many others experience has a very high fault rate.I had 2 100cm
>> rptv's and both went faulty , a friend had the same model and same
>> experience ,perhaps you can begin to see why I have little faith in
>> Loadsa Garbage.
>> Do a google search of the aus. ng's and see how many complaints there
>> are about LG relative to other brands.
>> Gordon
>
> I understand where your coming from, but my personal experience with LG
> has been only good.
> I don't know, maybe I've just been lucky, but I have owned several LG
> products, not just TV's and have never had a problem with any of them, as
> a matter of fact, when I got married, I gave allot of it away to my Wife's
> younger brothers so they could set up their first house, the "Good Name
> Brand" stuff we kept (wife and I put two houses full of furniture
> together) is all now land fill, I visited one of my BIL's the other week
> and he still has the LG VCR and Washing machine we gave him, and both
> still work.
> your mileage may vary
Yes all I am saying is that you have been lucky , my experience seems to be
more the norm.Gordon

[Gordon]

"Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:429fc511$0$5392$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
> Well I say otherwise, and if you don't like my opinion, who really cares
> :-P
> Garry
>


So now you are saying that in you oppinion not only are LG reliable but they
are good quality?
How long have you been on LG's payroll?????
I can accept that because you have had no problems you see the brand as
reliable however if you think they represent good quality then you really
ought to get out more.
Gordon
> "Falco" <johnyfalco@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
> news:jVzne.468$F7.418@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>> The LG 66cm LCD & CRT are both crap.
>> REALLY poor picture quality
>> Stay away from both.
>> Anybody who says otherwise has eye problems.
>> But don't believe me. Do a google search and find out for yourself..
>>
>>
>>
>> "undrcovr" <undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
>>>
>>> Pepe Duran Wrote:
>>>> DO NOT buy a LG 66cm Wide screen. You will be disappointed.
>>>> I am.
>>>
>>>
>>> just outta curiosity, are u reffering to lcd/plasma or conventional
>>> tv?
>>>
>>> i understood conventional..?!
>>>
>>> t
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> undrcovr
>>
>>
>
>

[Bill_h]

*shrug* obviously it is a case of ymmv. In Choice Magazine LG TVs
rated reasonably highly, both in relative numbers that did not need
repair, and the number of people who would buy another LG product.
Teac and Grundig were amongst the worst, with after sales service
being an issue.

cheers, Bill


On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:43:22 +0800, "Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au>
wrote:

>
>"Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>news:429fc511$0$5392$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>> Well I say otherwise, and if you don't like my opinion, who really cares
>> :-P
>> Garry
>>
>
>
>So now you are saying that in you oppinion not only are LG reliable but they
>are good quality?
>How long have you been on LG's payroll?????
>I can accept that because you have had no problems you see the brand as
>reliable however if you think they represent good quality then you really
>ought to get out more.
>Gordon
>> "Falco" <johnyfalco@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>> news:jVzne.468$F7.418@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> The LG 66cm LCD & CRT are both crap.
>>> REALLY poor picture quality
>>> Stay away from both.
>>> Anybody who says otherwise has eye problems.
>>> But don't believe me. Do a google search and find out for yourself..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "undrcovr" <undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
>>>>
>>>> Pepe Duran Wrote:
>>>>> DO NOT buy a LG 66cm Wide screen. You will be disappointed.
>>>>> I am.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> just outta curiosity, are u reffering to lcd/plasma or conventional
>>>> tv?
>>>>
>>>> i understood conventional..?!
>>>>
>>>> t
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> undrcovr
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

[Gordon]

ymmv?
I worked in mid- highend retail for nearly 20 yrs my experience has taught
me to be very suspicious of Choice or the British equivalent Which.
Both Teac and Grundig were palced in administration in the last couple of
years and so are probably not a good basis for comparison as there
respective financial problems probably severley effected customer service at
the time.
I remember reading the Choice article at the time and having a jolly good
laugh about how LG faired.At the end of the day it is "caveat emptor" and as
I no longer work in retail ,Ihave no particular axe to grind ,I was just
trying to save the o.p. a lot of heartache ,which based on my wide
experience is likely to be the outcome of an Lg ppurchase.
P.S. TEAC has been restructured , all tv's now have a 5 yr warranty and
recent polls in some of the ht forums rank their after sales service highly.
Gordon
"Bill_h" <bill_h@nospam.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:mbf8a1dl4nfeapralhno9a9ddsfrjl2pij@4ax.com...
> *shrug* obviously it is a case of ymmv. In Choice Magazine LG TVs
> rated reasonably highly, both in relative numbers that did not need
> repair, and the number of people who would buy another LG product.
> Teac and Grundig were amongst the worst, with after sales service
> being an issue.
>
> cheers, Bill
>
>
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:43:22 +0800, "Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>news:429fc511$0$5392$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>>> Well I say otherwise, and if you don't like my opinion, who really cares
>>> :-P
>>> Garry
>>>
>>
>>
>>So now you are saying that in you oppinion not only are LG reliable but
>>they
>>are good quality?
>>How long have you been on LG's payroll?????
>>I can accept that because you have had no problems you see the brand as
>>reliable however if you think they represent good quality then you really
>>ought to get out more.
>>Gordon
>>> "Falco" <johnyfalco@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>>> news:jVzne.468$F7.418@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> The LG 66cm LCD & CRT are both crap.
>>>> REALLY poor picture quality
>>>> Stay away from both.
>>>> Anybody who says otherwise has eye problems.
>>>> But don't believe me. Do a google search and find out for yourself..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "undrcovr" <undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> Pepe Duran Wrote:
>>>>>> DO NOT buy a LG 66cm Wide screen. You will be disappointed.
>>>>>> I am.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> just outta curiosity, are u reffering to lcd/plasma or conventional
>>>>> tv?
>>>>>
>>>>> i understood conventional..?!
>>>>>
>>>>> t
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> undrcovr
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

[Garry Ozols]

Well actually I was having a dig at a blanket statement by falco.
I have previously stated that I have never had a problem with LG products
and I would buy them again, no I don't work for them, never have and now
that I'm semi retired, I probably never will.
I would not be classed as a video/audiophile but the picture on my LG 66cm
widescreen is sharper than on my Sony TV, so that's all I really care about,
I run the sound through the optical out on the STB (Teac DV-B420, now there
is a rotten piece of crap, its spent more time in the shop than it has at
home) through the Panasonic SC-HT900 sound system,
If I had the money to throw around, I would be looking at setting up a DLP
system of some description, but as it stands, that's going to have to wait a
while.
Garry
"Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
news:d815r7$9vf$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
>
> "Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:429fc511$0$5392$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>> Well I say otherwise, and if you don't like my opinion, who really cares
>> :-P
>> Garry
>>
>
>
> So now you are saying that in you oppinion not only are LG reliable but
> they are good quality?
> How long have you been on LG's payroll?????
> I can accept that because you have had no problems you see the brand as
> reliable however if you think they represent good quality then you really
> ought to get out more.
> Gordon
>> "Falco" <johnyfalco@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>> news:jVzne.468$F7.418@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>> The LG 66cm LCD & CRT are both crap.
>>> REALLY poor picture quality
>>> Stay away from both.
>>> Anybody who says otherwise has eye problems.
>>> But don't believe me. Do a google search and find out for yourself..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "undrcovr" <undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
>>>>
>>>> Pepe Duran Wrote:
>>>>> DO NOT buy a LG 66cm Wide screen. You will be disappointed.
>>>>> I am.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> just outta curiosity, are u reffering to lcd/plasma or conventional
>>>> tv?
>>>>
>>>> i understood conventional..?!
>>>>
>>>> t
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> undrcovr
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Bill_h]

Perhaps. I would still be inclined to give credence to the Choice
poll, as the sample was fairly high, with over 900 responses for LG
out of a total of 10,000 responses for all TVs. And part of my
reason for responding was the concern that just because someone says
something on the internet (and particularly in relation to complaints)
doesn't make it true. I am inclined to suspect that there is a
minority of disgruntled customers making a disproportionate amount of
noise. As a comparison I haven't seen complaints about LG products
in other forums, eg relating to optical drives.

The only comparison I could add would be that responses to LG in
Choice depended on the product. They rated poorly when polled on
vacuum cleaners, yet rated highest for refrigerators.

As I said, ymmv.

cheers, Bill

On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 13:08:55 +0800, "Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au>
wrote:

>ymmv?
>I worked in mid- highend retail for nearly 20 yrs my experience has taught
>me to be very suspicious of Choice or the British equivalent Which.
>Both Teac and Grundig were palced in administration in the last couple of
>years and so are probably not a good basis for comparison as there
>respective financial problems probably severley effected customer service at
>the time.
>I remember reading the Choice article at the time and having a jolly good
>laugh about how LG faired.At the end of the day it is "caveat emptor" and as
>I no longer work in retail ,Ihave no particular axe to grind ,I was just
>trying to save the o.p. a lot of heartache ,which based on my wide
>experience is likely to be the outcome of an Lg ppurchase.
>P.S. TEAC has been restructured , all tv's now have a 5 yr warranty and
>recent polls in some of the ht forums rank their after sales service highly.
>Gordon
>"Bill_h" <bill_h@nospam.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>news:mbf8a1dl4nfeapralhno9a9ddsfrjl2pij@4ax.com...
>> *shrug* obviously it is a case of ymmv. In Choice Magazine LG TVs
>> rated reasonably highly, both in relative numbers that did not need
>> repair, and the number of people who would buy another LG product.
>> Teac and Grundig were amongst the worst, with after sales service
>> being an issue.
>>
>> cheers, Bill
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 17:43:22 +0800, "Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>>>news:429fc511$0$5392$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>>>> Well I say otherwise, and if you don't like my opinion, who really cares
>>>> :-P
>>>> Garry
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>So now you are saying that in you oppinion not only are LG reliable but
>>>they
>>>are good quality?
>>>How long have you been on LG's payroll?????
>>>I can accept that because you have had no problems you see the brand as
>>>reliable however if you think they represent good quality then you really
>>>ought to get out more.
>>>Gordon
>>>> "Falco" <johnyfalco@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:jVzne.468$F7.418@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>>> The LG 66cm LCD & CRT are both crap.
>>>>> REALLY poor picture quality
>>>>> Stay away from both.
>>>>> Anybody who says otherwise has eye problems.
>>>>> But don't believe me. Do a google search and find out for yourself..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "undrcovr" <undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
>>>>> news:undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pepe Duran Wrote:
>>>>>>> DO NOT buy a LG 66cm Wide screen. You will be disappointed.
>>>>>>> I am.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> just outta curiosity, are u reffering to lcd/plasma or conventional
>>>>>> tv?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i understood conventional..?!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> t
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> undrcovr
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

[Gordon]

"Bill_h" <bill_h@nospam.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
news:961da1prhn4mn7sg71poqqmvh156err0pd@4ax.com...
> Perhaps. I would still be inclined to give credence to the Choice
> poll, as the sample was fairly high, with over 900 responses for LG
> out of a total of 10,000 responses for all TVs. And part of my
> reason for responding was the concern that just because someone says
> something on the internet (and particularly in relation to complaints)
> doesn't make it true. I am inclined to suspect that there is a
> minority of disgruntled customers making a disproportionate amount of
> noise. As a comparison I haven't seen complaints about LG products
> in other forums, eg relating to optical drives.
>
> The only comparison I could add would be that responses to LG in
> Choice depended on the product. They rated poorly when polled on
> vacuum cleaners, yet rated highest for refrigerators.
>
> As I said, ymmv.
>
> cheers, Bill
What is this ymmv?????????????????????
Bill ,I can understand why you would give credence to Choice ,they are
supposed to be an impartial source of information ,after all.In a world of
rather slimey salesmen and dubious internet information it is easily
understandable why people cling to anything that appears to be impartial
however my personal experience has been that these consummer magazines are
not always as impartial as they should be and at the very least their 'terms
of reference' are often odly skewed.I would normally be the amongst first
to dismiss evidence which is purely anecdotal however I have had extensive
experience with LG ctv products both in and out of retail and I believe that
their percentage fault rate is higher than the norm and that many of the
products ,when "operating to specification" display less than first class
image & sound quality and particularly with regard to video quality have
problems in the areas of geometry ,colour balance and noise.
With regard to your comments about "a minority of customers making a
diproportionate amount of noise" one wonders why the level of LG complaints
tend to stand head and shoulders above other manufacturers selling products
in the same sector of the market when it comes to usenet and forum groups.Do
Samsung purchasers not complain as much as LG's victims or is it just that
Samsung produce a better product.

As a LG owner who hasn't experienced any problems the choice reviews must
confirm your purchasing decision.As an ex-Lg owner with 7 faulty or poor
quality ctv products through my hands ,with friends with simmilar
experiences and a whole host of usenet and forum posts reinforcing my
position combined with my experiences in retail I am happy to continue to
tell people to avoid LG home entertainment products at all costs.
As far as Lg optical drives are concerned all I can say is that you haven't
looked very far if you haven't found a diproprtionate number of complaints.
Gordon

[Gordon]

"Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:42a686cf$0$29335$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
> Well actually I was having a dig at a blanket statement by falco.
> I have previously stated that I have never had a problem with LG products
> and I would buy them again, no I don't work for them, never have and now
> that I'm semi retired, I probably never will.
> I would not be classed as a video/audiophile but the picture on my LG 66cm
> widescreen is sharper than on my Sony TV, so that's all I really care
> about, I run the sound through the optical out on the STB (Teac DV-B420,
> now there is a rotten piece of crap, its spent more time in the shop than
> it has at home) through the Panasonic SC-HT900 sound system,
> If I had the money to throw around, I would be looking at setting up a DLP
> system of some description, but as it stands, that's going to have to wait
> a while.
> Garry
Hi Garry ,
Well I am in enforced retirement myself due to a hospital bungle , which is
why I tend to be a little terse sometimes,sorry.I spent most of my working
life in the quality hi-fi retail game and still have a passionate (sometimes
too passionate) interest in electronics. I spent most of my working life in
a salaried position with no comission involved ,the idea being that the
customer was more assured of getting a good system rather than something
that made the most profit for the salesman /retailer.
There are too few retailers around these days that operate in the above
manner and having been part of the general buying public for the last few
years I understand just how difficult it is to get good honest information.I
maintain a realtionship with most of the local retailers both large and
small and it is interesting what one can find out once you get past the
'sales facade'.I have based my comments on LG in part on my own woefull
experiences , that of my friends and the information gleaned from retailers
and service agents.The bottom line seems to be that while LG is not the
worst brand out there they focus too much on marketing and not enough on the
basic engineering of their products.LG sell into what I call the value
sector of the market, they produce an attractive ,physically sound looking
product that appears to offer high value for the price particualrly
compared to the market leaders ,Sony & Panasonic which are in many cases
twice the price for superficially similar products.Unfortunatley from what I
have learnt,LG ctv products are less reliable than their direct competitors
and the ctv's seem to suffer from a large number of qaulity related issues
eg poor picture geometry ,video noise and poor colour balance.
When someone asks about the quality LG's ctv's I am more than happy to
relate my experience plus the info. I have gleaned from 'behind the scenes'.
Gordon
> "Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au> wrote in message
> news:d815r7$9vf$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au...
>>
>> "Garry Ozols" <garryozols at optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:429fc511$0$5392$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>>> Well I say otherwise, and if you don't like my opinion, who really cares
>>> :-P
>>> Garry
>>>
>>
>>
>> So now you are saying that in you oppinion not only are LG reliable but
>> they are good quality?
>> How long have you been on LG's payroll?????
>> I can accept that because you have had no problems you see the brand as
>> reliable however if you think they represent good quality then you really
>> ought to get out more.
>> Gordon
>>> "Falco" <johnyfalco@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
>>> news:jVzne.468$F7.418@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>> The LG 66cm LCD & CRT are both crap.
>>>> REALLY poor picture quality
>>>> Stay away from both.
>>>> Anybody who says otherwise has eye problems.
>>>> But don't believe me. Do a google search and find out for yourself..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "undrcovr" <undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote in message
>>>> news:undrcovr.1pw9lq@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au...
>>>>>
>>>>> Pepe Duran Wrote:
>>>>>> DO NOT buy a LG 66cm Wide screen. You will be disappointed.
>>>>>> I am.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> just outta curiosity, are u reffering to lcd/plasma or conventional
>>>>> tv?
>>>>>
>>>>> i understood conventional..?!
>>>>>
>>>>> t
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> undrcovr
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

[Bill_h]

On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 21:30:57 +0800, "Gordon" <gor2005@aapt.net.au>
wrote:

>
>"Bill_h" <bill_h@nospam.iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>news:961da1prhn4mn7sg71poqqmvh156err0pd@4ax.com...
>> Perhaps. I would still be inclined to give credence to the Choice
>> poll, as the sample was fairly high, with over 900 responses for LG
>> out of a total of 10,000 responses for all TVs. And part of my
>> reason for responding was the concern that just because someone says
>> something on the internet (and particularly in relation to complaints)
>> doesn't make it true. I am inclined to suspect that there is a
>> minority of disgruntled customers making a disproportionate amount of
>> noise. As a comparison I haven't seen complaints about LG products
>> in other forums, eg relating to optical drives.
>>
>> The only comparison I could add would be that responses to LG in
>> Choice depended on the product. They rated poorly when polled on
>> vacuum cleaners, yet rated highest for refrigerators.
>>
>> As I said, ymmv.
>>
>> cheers, Bill
>What is this ymmv?????????????????????

Making the point that 'your mileage may vary' (although I'm assuming
you knew that) to the extent that different people will have different
experiences with retailers and manufactures, and in your case you
appear to have had some adverse experiences with LG products. I
responded in the first instance as Falco's post was emotional and
subjective to the point of being hysterical. In a similar vein your
response to Gary did not seem entirely irrational on the basis that
you questioned his employment and thought he ought to get out more.


>Bill ,I can understand why you would give credence to Choice ,they are
>supposed to be an impartial source of information ,after all.In a world of
>rather slimey salesmen and dubious internet information it is easily
>understandable why people cling to anything that appears to be impartial
>however my personal experience has been that these consummer magazines are
>not always as impartial as they should be and at the very least their 'terms
>of reference' are often odly skewed.

I'm disinclined to believe that there is any particular bias in the
Choice surveys, on the basis that whilst the LG TVs and Fridges rated
well, the vacuum cleaners copped a caning. You will have to provide me
with more substantial information to convince me that the Choice
surveys are skewed. I certainly have no reason to believe that they
would do so deliberately. It is, in particular, "dubious internet
information" of which I am being cynical.

>I would normally be the amongst first
>to dismiss evidence which is purely anecdotal however I have had extensive
>experience with LG ctv products both in and out of retail and I believe that
>their percentage fault rate is higher than the norm and that many of the
>products ,when "operating to specification" display less than first class
>image & sound quality and particularly with regard to video quality have
>problems in the areas of geometry ,colour balance and noise.

To that I can only respond by saying when I have asked salespersons
(and at least one I personally know and trust) I have been given good
feed back on LG. The local Joyce Mayne store advised me that they have
had problems with LG on one occasion only (in relation to an LCD with
a dud pixel) but after some dialogue rectified the matter in the
customers favour. They seemed happy to recommend LG as far as after
sales service was concerned. I can't comment on picture quality from a
personal perspective, but would again refer to the Choice survey
respondents being happy to buy another LG telly. Perhaps they are mug
punters, but they are putting their money where their mouth is.

>With regard to your comments about "a minority of customers making a
>diproportionate amount of noise" one wonders why the level of LG complaints
>tend to stand head and shoulders above other manufacturers selling products
>in the same sector of the market when it comes to usenet and forum groups.Do
>Samsung purchasers not complain as much as LG's victims or is it just that
>Samsung produce a better product.

As I said or implied earlier, I am quite cautious to the point of
being sceptical of believing what I hear or see on usenet unless I can
verify it in some other way. I'm much more inclined to believe
information can be skewed on usenet than on broadbased surveys such as
that by Choice.

As far as Samsung is concerned, I've heard on an anecdotal basis that
their gear can be problematical, but as it was anecdotal, I'd by
nature be cautious of that. (incidentally Samsung gear was fine on the
Choice survey, although behind LG). My experience with Samsung is with
an airconditioner and a 17" CRT. The CRT is fine, although the aircon
had to be repaired within a few months of purchase and have a
capacitor (I think) replaced.

>
>As a LG owner who hasn't experienced any problems the choice reviews must
>confirm your purchasing decision.As an ex-Lg owner with 7 faulty or poor
>quality ctv products through my hands ,with friends with simmilar
>experiences and a whole host of usenet and forum posts reinforcing my
>position combined with my experiences in retail I am happy to continue to
>tell people to avoid LG home entertainment products at all costs.
>As far as Lg optical drives are concerned all I can say is that you haven't
>looked very far if you haven't found a diproprtionate number of complaints.
>Gordon
>

I should add that my own experience with LG is quite limited; I had a
Goldstar microwave which died after more than 15 years of service due
to the mechanical timer giving up the ghost (and bought an LG
microwave as a replacement). I recently bought an LG DVD burner on the
basis of its features and the lack of adverse feedback on forums.

At the end of the day, perhap LG do make crap equipment and provide
shit after sales support, but to me that is not supported by the
evidence in front of me, both feedback from retailers and the Choice
survey. If you want me to believe that LG do indeed make inferior
quality goods and don't adequately support their goods, you will have
to provide somewhat more than personal opinion. You say that you have
extensive personal and business experience, however I have no way of
confirming that, or of knowing any reasons why you might or might not
be biased against LG. For all I know you might be a 15 year old with a
chip on his or her shoulder for a totally irrational reason, although
to be fair I don't think that is the case (and you haven't devolved
into personal abuse).

And I'll say it again, your mileage obviously *does* vary.

cheers, Bill