FOXTEL Targets Satellite Piracy -- FOXTEL

[NewsMan]

FOXTEL has commenced a national satellite system upgrade in
preparation for the planned launch of new digital television
services in 2004.

As part of this process, FOXTEL is introducing new technology that
is turning off pirated satellite subscription television services.

The anti-piracy action involves the replacement of all legitimate
FOXTEL satellite smartcards (the cards that are inserted in FOXTEL
set-top-boxes to enable them to receive and read the satellite
signal).

The smartcard replacement program is part of the wider satellite
system upgrade and users of pirate services are progressively
losing their signals. When the smartcard upgrade is completed by
early next year, all pirated satellite services will be eliminated.

There has been a temporary disruption to the service of some
legitimate satellite subscribers. FOXTEL cable subscribers are not
affected.

Some legitimate FOXTEL subscribers who during the current upgrade
process have turned their set-top-box off, or who have removed the
smartcard in their set-top-box, may have lost their signals.

Affected subscribers have been asked to contact FOXTEL to
reactivate their service.

The process has caused a high volume of calls to our customer
service centre in recent days and some callers have experienced
delays in getting through. FOXTEL apologises for any inconvenience
and asks for the patience of its customers as we work through this
process. FOXTEL has put on additional customer service resources.

Legitimate subscribers who have lost their signal during this
process will be compensated for the service they have lost in
accordance with FOXTEL's loss-of-signal credit adjustment process.

FOXTEL's Chief Executive Mr Kim Williams said: "We apologise for
any inconvenience to our legitimate subscribers.

"We understand the majority of affected people are using pirate
services.

"Dealers in pirated equipment are committing a crime and this
action by FOXTEL will put them out of business. Would-be purchasers
of pirated equipment should not waste their money because they are
losing their pirated signals permanently".

-- Source: FOXTELMore news:http://www.auspaytv.com.au/forums/ipdl.php
***

On cable TV they have a weather channel - 24 hours of weather. We had
something like that where I grew up. We called it a window.
-- Dan Spencer

[Miro]

"NewsMan" <cocopops@nospam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:bqhb47$1gol$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> FOXTEL has commenced a national satellite system upgrade in
> preparation for the planned launch of new digital television
> services in 2004.
>

Ok so they kill off the pirate market ..... so when do they make more money.

[boganbill]

They will never be able to kill off the pirate market. No matter how smart
or advanced their they think their technology is there is still Peristant
geeks or disgruntled employees out there that will make the whole thing fall
over.


"NewsMan" <cocopops@nospam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:bqhb47$1gol$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> FOXTEL has commenced a national satellite system upgrade in
> preparation for the planned launch of new digital television
> services in 2004.
>
> As part of this process, FOXTEL is introducing new technology that
> is turning off pirated satellite subscription television services.
>
> The anti-piracy action involves the replacement of all legitimate
> FOXTEL satellite smartcards (the cards that are inserted in FOXTEL
> set-top-boxes to enable them to receive and read the satellite
> signal).
>
> The smartcard replacement program is part of the wider satellite
> system upgrade and users of pirate services are progressively
> losing their signals. When the smartcard upgrade is completed by
> early next year, all pirated satellite services will be eliminated.
>
> There has been a temporary disruption to the service of some
> legitimate satellite subscribers. FOXTEL cable subscribers are not
> affected.
>
> Some legitimate FOXTEL subscribers who during the current upgrade
> process have turned their set-top-box off, or who have removed the
> smartcard in their set-top-box, may have lost their signals.
>
> Affected subscribers have been asked to contact FOXTEL to
> reactivate their service.
>
> The process has caused a high volume of calls to our customer
> service centre in recent days and some callers have experienced
> delays in getting through. FOXTEL apologises for any inconvenience
> and asks for the patience of its customers as we work through this
> process. FOXTEL has put on additional customer service resources.
>
> Legitimate subscribers who have lost their signal during this
> process will be compensated for the service they have lost in
> accordance with FOXTEL's loss-of-signal credit adjustment process.
>
> FOXTEL's Chief Executive Mr Kim Williams said: "We apologise for
> any inconvenience to our legitimate subscribers.
>
> "We understand the majority of affected people are using pirate
> services.
>
> "Dealers in pirated equipment are committing a crime and this
> action by FOXTEL will put them out of business. Would-be purchasers
> of pirated equipment should not waste their money because they are
> losing their pirated signals permanently".
>
> -- Source: FOXTELMore news:http://www.auspaytv.com.au/forums/ipdl.php
> ***
>
> On cable TV they have a weather channel - 24 hours of weather. We had
> something like that where I grew up. We called it a window.
> -- Dan Spencer
>
>

[Fuzz Bucket@NoSetEmailAddress.com]

On 2-Dec-2003, " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > FOXTEL has commenced a national satellite system upgrade in
> > preparation for the planned launch of new digital television
> > services in 2004.
> >
>
> Ok so they kill off the pirate market ..... so when do they make more
> money.

So I guess that if the pirates cant get the channels they enjoyed
all this time might actually pay for it...

[Me]

That's the idea. Hoping brain dead zombies will have withdrawals because
their free Foxtel is switched off. Oh what will the poor bludgers do????


<Fuzz Bucket@NoSetEmailAddress.com> wrote in message
news:3fcc39c3@news.leadingedgeinternet.net.au...
>
> On 2-Dec-2003, " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > FOXTEL has commenced a national satellite system upgrade in
> > > preparation for the planned launch of new digital television
> > > services in 2004.
> > >
> >
> > Ok so they kill off the pirate market ..... so when do they make more
> > money.
>
> So I guess that if the pirates cant get the channels they enjoyed
> all this time might actually pay for it...

[Wayne349]

<Fuzz Bucket@NoSetEmailAddress.com> wrote in message
news:3fcc39c3@news.leadingedgeinternet.net.au...
>
> On 2-Dec-2003, " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > FOXTEL has commenced a national satellite system upgrade in
> > > preparation for the planned launch of new digital television
> > > services in 2004.
> > >
> >
> > Ok so they kill off the pirate market ..... so when do they make more
> > money.
>
> So I guess that if the pirates cant get the channels they enjoyed
> all this time might actually pay for it...

That's what foxtel are hoping for, but i think people paying for the basic
channels
and then using a goldie to get all the extra's will drop out alltogether as
they
won't see it as 'value' any more and the extra are'nt worth paying extra for
now they've already had a taste
so in reality foxtel revenue could go backwards even more that it has been.

[Wally]

If all fox cards go down....That just leaves Austar cards...Wait, dont they
basically have the same channel line up?!:)


"Wayne349" <apollo345@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> <Fuzz Bucket@NoSetEmailAddress.com> wrote in message
> news:3fcc39c3@news.leadingedgeinternet.net.au...
> >
> > On 2-Dec-2003, " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > FOXTEL has commenced a national satellite system upgrade in
> > > > preparation for the planned launch of new digital television
> > > > services in 2004.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ok so they kill off the pirate market ..... so when do they make more
> > > money.
> >
> > So I guess that if the pirates cant get the channels they enjoyed
> > all this time might actually pay for it...
>
> That's what foxtel are hoping for, but i think people paying for the basic
> channels
> and then using a goldie to get all the extra's will drop out alltogether
as
> they
> won't see it as 'value' any more and the extra are'nt worth paying extra
for
> now they've already had a taste
> so in reality foxtel revenue could go backwards even more that it has
been.
>
>
>
>

[Adam SLATER \(H0llyw00d H0gan\)]

Someone will crack the encyption before the end of 2004, guaranteed

Ahhh, reminds me of the old dongle in the back of the commodore 64 days to
eliminate piracy, LOL

[Wayne349]

"Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)" <nospam@tig.com.au> wrote in message
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> Someone will crack the encyption before the end of 2004, guaranteed
>
> Ahhh, reminds me of the old dongle in the back of the commodore 64 days to
> eliminate piracy, LOL
>
>

I believe it's already been cracked,
just this time their keeping their cards closer to their chest...

[thetron]

correct they have or some way of working around them
"Wayne349" <apollo345@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)" <nospam@tig.com.au> wrote in message
> news:bqhndo$vam$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
> > Someone will crack the encyption before the end of 2004, guaranteed
> >
> > Ahhh, reminds me of the old dongle in the back of the commodore 64 days
to
> > eliminate piracy, LOL
> >
> >
>
> I believe it's already been cracked,
> just this time their keeping their cards closer to their chest...
>
>

[D_Judge]

nospam@tig.com.au did say something on
Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:52:55 GMT
about Re: FOXTEL Targets Satellite Piracy -- FOXTEL

> Someone will crack the encyption before the end of 2004, guaranteed
>
> Ahhh, reminds me of the old dongle in the back of the commodore 64 days to
> eliminate piracy, LOL

The still use Dongles to stop Piracy

[D_Judge]

PerthReader@yahooDOTcom.au did say something on
Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:41:02 GMT
about Re: FOXTEL Targets Satellite Piracy -- FOXTEL

> > Someone will crack the encyption before the end of 2004, guaranteed
> >
> > Ahhh, reminds me of the old dongle in the back of the commodore 64 days
> > to
> > eliminate piracy, LOL
>
> The still use Dongles to stop Piracy

Ooops suppose to say

They still use Dongles to stop Piracy
One graphic program use it Cant remember the name of it.........

[Thomas 'bacco|007' Baxter]

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:49:33 GMT, D_Judge wrote:

> One graphic program use it Cant remember the name of it.........

Civilcad :)

[Miro]

<Fuzz Bucket@NoSetEmailAddress.com> wrote in message
news:3fcc39c3@news.leadingedgeinternet.net.au...
>
> On 2-Dec-2003, " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > FOXTEL has commenced a national satellite system upgrade in
> > > preparation for the planned launch of new digital television
> > > services in 2004.
> > >
> >
> > Ok so they kill off the pirate market ..... so when do they make more
> > money.
>
> So I guess that if the pirates cant get the channels they enjoyed
> all this time might actually pay for it...

I just dont buy into it.

I tended to hold the view that some people "shared" the cards details with
mates, others were making a business out of it.

I still dont see anyone paying $50/month, renting new gear, putting up a new
dish and then getting less channels per month if they are accustomed to
their own setup which might be better quality.

If only you could just pay for what you wanted ..... like a card.

[Sam Richards]

On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 17:23:04 +1100, "NewsMan"
<cocopops@nospam.hotpop.com> wrote:

>FOXTEL has commenced a national satellite system upgrade in
>preparation for the planned launch of new digital television
>services in 2004.
>
>As part of this process, FOXTEL is introducing new technology that
>is turning off pirated satellite subscription television services.

I have a partial way around it.

Subscribe to Austar/Foxtel and get the most expensive plan.

Get a second decoder for $15 a month.

Rent the second decoder and/or card to a mate for half price.

You end up $30-$40 better off.


Can you get a third decoder bax ?


Sam

[Me - The Real one!]

"Wayne349" <apollo345@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> <Fuzz Bucket@NoSetEmailAddress.com> wrote in message
> news:3fcc39c3@news.leadingedgeinternet.net.au...
> >
> > On 2-Dec-2003, " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > FOXTEL has commenced a national satellite system upgrade in
> > > > preparation for the planned launch of new digital television
> > > > services in 2004.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ok so they kill off the pirate market ..... so when do they make more
> > > money.
> >
> > So I guess that if the pirates cant get the channels they enjoyed
> > all this time might actually pay for it...
>
> That's what foxtel are hoping for, but i think people paying for the basic
> channels
> and then using a goldie to get all the extra's will drop out alltogether
as
> they
> won't see it as 'value' any more and the extra are'nt worth paying extra
for
> now they've already had a taste
> so in reality foxtel revenue could go backwards even more that it has
been.
>
Drop out and go back to FTA with all those bloody ads? YUK!!!

[Me - The Real one!]

" Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> <Fuzz Bucket@NoSetEmailAddress.com> wrote in message
> news:3fcc39c3@news.leadingedgeinternet.net.au...
> >
> > On 2-Dec-2003, " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > FOXTEL has commenced a national satellite system upgrade in
> > > > preparation for the planned launch of new digital television
> > > > services in 2004.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Ok so they kill off the pirate market ..... so when do they make more
> > > money.
> >
> > So I guess that if the pirates cant get the channels they enjoyed
> > all this time might actually pay for it...
>
> I just dont buy into it.
>
> I tended to hold the view that some people "shared" the cards details with
> mates, others were making a business out of it.
>
> I still dont see anyone paying $50/month, renting new gear, putting up a
new
> dish and then getting less channels per month if they are accustomed to
> their own setup which might be better quality.

That's actually only a relatively small group. Most of the pirates are
people who pay the already pay the basic subscription price, have a genuine
Foxtel decoder and have forked out money for a gold card.

>
> If only you could just pay for what you wanted ..... like a card.
>
>

[mddawson]

I don't think their plan has worked for the moment. A guy I work with lost his service over the weekend due to his pirate card. As he pays for the basic package he stuck his genuine card in, rang Foxtel who restarted his service. He then put his pirate card back in and now gets all the extra channels again.

[Simmo]

your missing the point md, your friend will lose his 'extra'service' even if
it is working now.
Last weekend was 'rattling the chain', the real stuff is yet to come.
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>
> I don't think their plan has worked for the moment. A guy I work with
> lost his service over the weekend due to his pirate card. As he pays
> for the basic package he stuck his genuine card in, rang Foxtel who
> restarted his service. He then put his pirate card back in and now
> gets all the extra channels again.
>
>
> --
> mddawson
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[George W. Frost]

"Me - The Real one!" <me@here.com> wrote in message
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> "Wayne349" <apollo345@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > <Fuzz Bucket@NoSetEmailAddress.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fcc39c3@news.leadingedgeinternet.net.au...
> > >
> > > On 2-Dec-2003, " Miro" <miro01@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > > FOXTEL has commenced a national satellite system upgrade in
> > > > > preparation for the planned launch of new digital television
> > > > > services in 2004.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ok so they kill off the pirate market ..... so when do they make
more
> > > > money.
> > >
> > > So I guess that if the pirates cant get the channels they enjoyed
> > > all this time might actually pay for it...
> >
> > That's what foxtel are hoping for, but i think people paying for the
basic
> > channels
> > and then using a goldie to get all the extra's will drop out alltogether
> as
> > they
> > won't see it as 'value' any more and the extra are'nt worth paying extra
> for
> > now they've already had a taste
> > so in reality foxtel revenue could go backwards even more that it has
> been.
> >
> Drop out and go back to FTA with all those bloody ads? YUK!!!
>
>

Are you really trying to tell everyone that there are absolutely no ads on
pay-tv ???