Satellite TV providers fight pirates

[NewsMan]

<SNIP>

....Foxtel spokesman Mark Furness said the new smartcards were "pirate-proof
technology" and would quickly render all imitations useless.

"This technology has not been cracked by pirates in three years of use in
other markets around the world," he said.

"What we want to do is encourage people who have pirate services to contact
us and legitimise their services."

The anti-piracy technology is the first phase in Foxtel's estimated $550
million roll-out of digital television services, due for completion in the
first half of next year. All subscribers will eventually get a new digital
set-top box allowing them to view more than 100 digital channels.

Foxtel - jointly owned by Telstra, News Corp, and Publishing and
Broadcasting Ltd - will also enable viewers to interact with the television
station via their telephone line.

The digital roll-out faces a major hurdle in winning approval from the
Australian Competition and Consumer Commission on third party-access issues.






--
Details:
http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/02/1070351579804.html
More news:
http://www.auspaytv.com.au/forums/ipdl.php

***

On cable TV they have a weather channel - 24 hours of weather. We had
something like that where I grew up. We called it a window.
-- Dan Spencer

[The declining Kwyjibo.]

And the Lord did grin, and people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths,
and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and
fruit bats, and "NewsMan" <cocopops@nospam.hotpop.com> spake, saying


> "What we want to do is encourage people who have pirate services to
> contact us and legitimise their services."

Bullshit, If that was the case they would not force users to use the Foxtel
box and pay an installation fee for something they already own.
If they were serious about this they would just be charging the postage
cost of sending out a legit smartcard, then your normal subs fee less a
discount for not renting a Foxtel STB from that point on.

--

Kwyj.

[Bassett]

Actually, the real way to do it, would be if the pay providers where to sell
Smartcards ONLY,, the same way as you obtain a Phone card. In that way,
you call into your local newsagency, buy a card with the channels you want,
on it. The fee charged would only cover the channels you anted, then at
the end of a month, the card would switch off, and you buy another card...
Won't work scream the pay providers.. Firstly in works in European
countries
and has done for many years, Just check in some of the European satellite
magazines,, They show pages and pages of legal program cards, secondly,,
the pay providers could increase there subscription platform , by 60000
subscribers, for the price of a card, by allowing Aurora subscribers to
use there own receivers on the pay platform .

bassett

"The declining Kwyjibo." <removesdrawkcabtlepsgod@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
message news:Xns94469D250880Bssss@130.133.1.4...
> And the Lord did grin, and people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths,
> and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and
> fruit bats, and "NewsMan" <cocopops@nospam.hotpop.com> spake, saying
>
>
> > "What we want to do is encourage people who have pirate services to
> > contact us and legitimise their services."
>
> Bullshit, If that was the case they would not force users to use the
Foxtel
> box and pay an installation fee for something they already own.
> If they were serious about this they would just be charging the postage
> cost of sending out a legit smartcard, then your normal subs fee less a
> discount for not renting a Foxtel STB from that point on.
>
> --
>
> Kwyj.

[Wayne349]

"Bassett" <bassett@bassettskennel.com.au> wrote in message
news:3fcd68e7@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> Actually, the real way to do it, would be if the pay providers where to
sell
> Smartcards ONLY,, the same way as you obtain a Phone card. In that way,
> you call into your local newsagency, buy a card with the channels you
want,
> on it. The fee charged would only cover the channels you anted, then at
> the end of a month, the card would switch off, and you buy another card...
> Won't work scream the pay providers.. Firstly in works in European
> countries
> and has done for many years, Just check in some of the European satellite
> magazines,, They show pages and pages of legal program cards, secondly,,
> the pay providers could increase there subscription platform , by 60000
> subscribers, for the price of a card, by allowing Aurora subscribers to
> use there own receivers on the pay platform .
>
> bassett
>
> "The declining Kwyjibo." <removesdrawkcabtlepsgod@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
> message news:Xns94469D250880Bssss@130.133.1.4...
> > And the Lord did grin, and people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths,
> > and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and
> > fruit bats, and "NewsMan" <cocopops@nospam.hotpop.com> spake, saying
> >
> >
> > > "What we want to do is encourage people who have pirate services to
> > > contact us and legitimise their services."
> >
> > Bullshit, If that was the case they would not force users to use the
> Foxtel
> > box and pay an installation fee for something they already own.
> > If they were serious about this they would just be charging the postage
> > cost of sending out a legit smartcard, then your normal subs fee less a
> > discount for not renting a Foxtel STB from that point on.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Kwyj.
>

I agree,
But then they would'nt make any money and they'd also know you would have to
do something
with your existing installation,
like try to sell it with no way of recouping the original purchase price,
so they're trying to shaft the pirate users.
>

[Fuzz Bucket]

On 3-Dec-2003, "Wayne349" <apollo345@hotmail.com> wrote:

> I agree,
> But then they would'nt make any money and they'd also know you would have
> to
> do something
> with your existing installation,
> like try to sell it with no way of recouping the original purchase price,
> so they're trying to shaft the pirate users.

Remember Beta Video Tapes ... they obsolete
That's what happens in life.......

[CyBorg 0091]

Fuzz Bucket wrote:
> On 3-Dec-2003, "Wayne349" <apollo345@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I agree,
>>But then they would'nt make any money and they'd also know you would have
>>to
>>do something
>>with your existing installation,
>>like try to sell it with no way of recouping the original purchase price,
>>so they're trying to shaft the pirate users.
>
>
> Remember Beta Video Tapes ... they obsolete
> That's what happens in life.......

I agree to the extent of logic no idea what the equipment has to do with
this..Pay TV operators use equipemnt like plastic bags,its part of the
service..all this shit about support calls is all just brain wash.

Sell one orange or sell a bag full.

we make more money from one orange than we do from the same one orange
in a bag full of them,however by selling the bag full not only do we
have the chance of getting the customer back we also have the
opportunity of moving more oranges at one time before they go mouldy or
go out of fashion,once the customers have commited to spending that bit
extra and getting that bag of oranges its their problem as to how to use
them after all they have subscribed to them self to eat a hole bage of
oranges for that bit extra
So whats in it for the Orange seller,increased capital,more capacity and
less overhead or stock that can go bad and a larger name in the house
for advertising...remember you bought the orange you have to eat it or
its goes to waste,you might even get to like oranges when you get used
to them.

[George W. Frost]

"CyBorg 0091" <lab1m1@pctas.com> wrote in message
news:3fcda4ea@news.comindico.com.au...
> Fuzz Bucket wrote:
> > On 3-Dec-2003, "Wayne349" <apollo345@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I agree,
> >>But then they would'nt make any money and they'd also know you would
have
> >>to
> >>do something
> >>with your existing installation,
> >>like try to sell it with no way of recouping the original purchase
price,
> >>so they're trying to shaft the pirate users.
> >
> >
> > Remember Beta Video Tapes ... they obsolete
> > That's what happens in life.......
>
> I agree to the extent of logic no idea what the equipment has to do with
> this..Pay TV operators use equipemnt like plastic bags,its part of the
> service..all this shit about support calls is all just brain wash.
>
> Sell one orange or sell a bag full.
>
> we make more money from one orange than we do from the same one orange
> in a bag full of them,however by selling the bag full not only do we
> have the chance of getting the customer back we also have the
> opportunity of moving more oranges at one time before they go mouldy or
> go out of fashion,once the customers have commited to spending that bit
> extra and getting that bag of oranges its their problem as to how to use
> them after all they have subscribed to them self to eat a hole bage of
> oranges for that bit extra
> So whats in it for the Orange seller,increased capital,more capacity and
> less overhead or stock that can go bad and a larger name in the house
> for advertising...remember you bought the orange you have to eat it or
> its goes to waste,you might even get to like oranges when you get used
> to them.


So, when you go to Safeway to buy a bag of oranges, you would prefer to buy
the entire box instead of just a kilogram which is all you would require for
the month ?
That sick puppy Bassett spoke of a great idea where you purchase a monthly
card with only the channels you want to watch

[Greg]

Yes !!!

Foxtel need to look at ttheir packaging. WHY in deed can you not just get
the smart card if you allready have you own sat equipment ?


Greg

"The declining Kwyjibo." <removesdrawkcabtlepsgod@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
message news:Xns94469D250880Bssss@130.133.1.4...
> And the Lord did grin, and people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths,
> and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and
> fruit bats, and "NewsMan" <cocopops@nospam.hotpop.com> spake, saying
>
>
> > "What we want to do is encourage people who have pirate services to
> > contact us and legitimise their services."
>
> Bullshit, If that was the case they would not force users to use the
Foxtel
> box and pay an installation fee for something they already own.
> If they were serious about this they would just be charging the postage
> cost of sending out a legit smartcard, then your normal subs fee less a
> discount for not renting a Foxtel STB from that point on.
>
> --
>
> Kwyj.

[Danny Rohr]

Bassett <bassett@bassettskennel.com.au> wrote in message
news:3fcd68e7@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

> Actually, the real way to do it, would be if the pay providers where to
sell
> Smartcards ONLY,, the same way as you obtain a Phone card. In that way,
> you call into your local newsagency, buy a card with the channels you
want,
> on it. The fee charged would only cover the channels you anted, then at
> the end of a month, the card would switch off, and you buy another card...
> Won't work scream the pay providers.. Firstly in works in European
> countries
> and has done for many years, Just check in some of the European satellite
> magazines,, They show pages and pages of legal program cards, secondly,,
> the pay providers could increase there subscription platform , by 60000
> subscribers, for the price of a card, by allowing Aurora subscribers to
> use there own receivers on the pay platform .

This could work for basic services, but makes it hard to implement the
interactive stuff when everyone uses on Korean noname decoder. At least
with SkyDigital in the UK you can buy your equipment, even if you must use a
SkyDigital Receiver.

Danny.

[Dave Benet]

The encryption is damn good that paying customers can't receive content with
the new whizbang cards.

Got mine in the mail today telling me to switch cards within the next 7 days
to maintain service. Can't get jack with the new card!

Of course ringing FoxTel gets you a recording saying they can't take your
call due to unusually high call volumes.

What a joke!

"Greg" <greg@mail.com> wrote in message
news:hLtzb.38290$aT.14601@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Yes !!!
>
> Foxtel need to look at ttheir packaging. WHY in deed can you not just get
> the smart card if you allready have you own sat equipment ?
>
>
> Greg
>
> "The declining Kwyjibo." <removesdrawkcabtlepsgod@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
> message news:Xns94469D250880Bssss@130.133.1.4...
> > And the Lord did grin, and people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths,
> > and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and
> > fruit bats, and "NewsMan" <cocopops@nospam.hotpop.com> spake, saying
> >
> >
> > > "What we want to do is encourage people who have pirate services to
> > > contact us and legitimise their services."
> >
> > Bullshit, If that was the case they would not force users to use the
> Foxtel
> > box and pay an installation fee for something they already own.
> > If they were serious about this they would just be charging the postage
> > cost of sending out a legit smartcard, then your normal subs fee less a
> > discount for not renting a Foxtel STB from that point on.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Kwyj.
>
>

[A Very Nasty Pirate]

"NewsMan" <cocopops@nospam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
news:bqis42$1v70$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
>
> <SNIP>
>
> ...Foxtel spokesman Mark Furness said the new smartcards were
"pirate-proof
> technology" and would quickly render all imitations useless.
>
> "This technology has not been cracked by pirates in three years of use in
> other markets around the world," he said.
>
> "What we want to do is encourage people who have pirate services to
contact
> us and legitimise their services."
>
> The anti-piracy technology is the first phase in Foxtel's estimated $550
> million roll-out of digital television services, due for completion in the
> first half of next year. All subscribers will eventually get a new digital
> set-top box allowing them to view more than 100 digital channels.
>
> Foxtel - jointly owned by Telstra, News Corp, and Publishing and
> Broadcasting Ltd - will also enable viewers to interact with the
television
> station via their telephone line.
>
> The digital roll-out faces a major hurdle in winning approval from the
> Australian Competition and Consumer Commission on third party-access
issues.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
> Details:
> http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/02/1070351579804.html
> More news:
> http://www.auspaytv.com.au/forums/ipdl.php
>
> ***
>
> On cable TV they have a weather channel - 24 hours of weather. We had
> something like that where I grew up. We called it a window.
> -- Dan Spencer
>
> Ahhhhhhh me hearties,me pirate goldie is still banging away,goin like a
beauty
and when it does die in the arse i wont be gettin that
Foxtel.........Because the "Cunts"
dont cover this part of the world.........Because"Sorry Sir,your outside
of the
Satellite footprint"..........lol..........now let me sing ya
song........a pirate song.........
"I'll sing ya song,a song of the sea,Birdseye fishfingers..........not
really a pirate song.....
So "Fuck you Foxtel" and.....and.......ah what the fuck...."Fuck you
Telstra......Even Bigger Cunts"

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........lol.................. ...baaaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaa
aaa

[Weststate A/V Systems]

The declining Kwyjibo. wrote:
>
>>"What we want to do is encourage people who have pirate services to
>>contact us and legitimise their services."
>
>
> Bullshit, If that was the case they would not force users to use the Foxtel
> box and pay an installation fee for something they already own.
> If they were serious about this they would just be charging the postage
> cost of sending out a legit smartcard, then your normal subs fee less a
> discount for not renting a Foxtel STB from that point on.
>

Its called milking the cow, and Foxtel have always done that to its max
advantage. Foxtel needs to get real with this along with giving
customers a lot more flexibility in choosing programing options.


Colin
http://members.iinet.net.au/~colinf/product.htm

[Bassett]

Thats why some bright bastard invented a Chainsaw,,

"boganbill" <Joshua@DELETETHISciecorp.com.au> wrote in message
news:3fcfafe2$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> lol pirate, same bullshit that I got five years ago when I wanted Austar
but
> I lived in the "Foxtel satellite area"
>
> Now there is none for me though cause of that fucking tree right in front
of
> where my dish needs to be.
>
> *sigh* such is life
>
> "A Very Nasty Pirate" <Doc@eatmoresheep.com> wrote in message
> news:3fcf3707@quokka.wn.com.au...
> >
> > "NewsMan" <cocopops@nospam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
> > news:bqis42$1v70$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> > >
> > > <SNIP>
> > >
> > > ...Foxtel spokesman Mark Furness said the new smartcards were
> > "pirate-proof
> > > technology" and would quickly render all imitations useless.
> > >
> > > "This technology has not been cracked by pirates in three years of use
> in
> > > other markets around the world," he said.
> > >
> > > "What we want to do is encourage people who have pirate services to
> > contact
> > > us and legitimise their services."
> > >
> > > The anti-piracy technology is the first phase in Foxtel's estimated
$550
> > > million roll-out of digital television services, due for completion in
> the
> > > first half of next year. All subscribers will eventually get a new
> digital
> > > set-top box allowing them to view more than 100 digital channels.
> > >
> > > Foxtel - jointly owned by Telstra, News Corp, and Publishing and
> > > Broadcasting Ltd - will also enable viewers to interact with the
> > television
> > > station via their telephone line.
> > >
> > > The digital roll-out faces a major hurdle in winning approval from the
> > > Australian Competition and Consumer Commission on third party-access
> > issues.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Details:
> > > http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/02/1070351579804.html
> > > More news:
> > > http://www.auspaytv.com.au/forums/ipdl.php
> > >
> > > ***
> > >
> > > On cable TV they have a weather channel - 24 hours of weather. We had
> > > something like that where I grew up. We called it a window.
> > > -- Dan Spencer
> > >
> > > Ahhhhhhh me hearties,me pirate goldie is still banging away,goin like
a
> > beauty
> > and when it does die in the arse i wont be gettin that
> > Foxtel.........Because the "Cunts"
> > dont cover this part of the world.........Because"Sorry Sir,your
> outside
> > of the
> > Satellite footprint"..........lol..........now let me sing ya
> > song........a pirate song.........
> > "I'll sing ya song,a song of the sea,Birdseye
fishfingers..........not
> > really a pirate song.....
> > So "Fuck you Foxtel" and.....and.......ah what the fuck...."Fuck you
> > Telstra......Even Bigger Cunts"
> >
> >
>
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........lol.................. ...baaaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaa
> > aaa
> >
> >
> >
>
>

[CyBorg 0091]

George W. Frost wrote:
> "CyBorg 0091" <lab1m1@pctas.com> wrote in message
> news:3fcda4ea@news.comindico.com.au...
>
>>Fuzz Bucket wrote:
>>
>>>On 3-Dec-2003, "Wayne349" <apollo345@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I agree,
>>>>But then they would'nt make any money and they'd also know you would
>
> have
>
>>>>to
>>>>do something
>>>>with your existing installation,
>>>>like try to sell it with no way of recouping the original purchase
>
> price,
>
>>>>so they're trying to shaft the pirate users.
>>>
>>>
>>>Remember Beta Video Tapes ... they obsolete
>>>That's what happens in life.......
>>
>>I agree to the extent of logic no idea what the equipment has to do with
>>this..Pay TV operators use equipemnt like plastic bags,its part of the
>>service..all this shit about support calls is all just brain wash.
>>
>>Sell one orange or sell a bag full.
>>
>>we make more money from one orange than we do from the same one orange
>>in a bag full of them,however by selling the bag full not only do we
>>have the chance of getting the customer back we also have the
>>opportunity of moving more oranges at one time before they go mouldy or
>>go out of fashion,once the customers have commited to spending that bit
>>extra and getting that bag of oranges its their problem as to how to use
>>them after all they have subscribed to them self to eat a hole bage of
>>oranges for that bit extra
>>So whats in it for the Orange seller,increased capital,more capacity and
>>less overhead or stock that can go bad and a larger name in the house
>>for advertising...remember you bought the orange you have to eat it or
>>its goes to waste,you might even get to like oranges when you get used
>>to them.
>
>
>
> So, when you go to Safeway to buy a bag of oranges, you would prefer to buy
> the entire box instead of just a kilogram which is all you would require for
> the month ?
> That sick puppy Bassett spoke of a great idea where you purchase a monthly
> card with only the channels you want to watch
>
>

Yes this is a great idea,and I would move to make it happen,however
selling monthly prepaid is like selling one orange
My point was audience,the type of audience that the byes one orange is
alot differnt to the one that makes the decision of a bag full.

One orange byers are normally tourist and passers by and will likey
never return for purchase,so therfore this trade is virually less than
10% of the market at the maximum in prime position even.

Its obvious that commitment to the channel line up over 12 months is
going to make more maney than the touist who byes a card for 2 months
even at a bit extra cost and then decides not to worry about payTV any
longer as they can't afford it.

I know nothing of the PayTV giants activities for Business decisions
however I know allot about business practises,I am just pointing my veiw
of why the Paytv opperators possibly act as they do in Australia.
After all we don't have much selection,I can see many here with my
oranges allready by selling 20kg only,not 1kg bags as formentioned.

[Barney]

If Foxtel etc was a fair deal, i.e. flat rate for all channels and not as expensive as it currently is, I don't think piracy would be as great a problem and most people would happily sign up legitimately. Pay TV providers may even find they would maintain their profit margins due to the larger number of subscribers for the lesser rate. My network of friends and I all agree it is nothing but a rip off to pay current rates AND have to pay extra for movie channels etc. If I could get all channels for a flat rate of say, $60 a month, I would be more than happy

[Byron John Forbes]

I disagree. I think it should just be the works for $30 - $40 per month.
Anything over $40 and I say lets go see the pirate! :)


"Weststate A/V Systems" <WAVS@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:3fcfe875$0$1728$5a62ac22@freenews.iinet.net.a u...
> Its called milking the cow, and Foxtel have always done that to its max
> advantage. Foxtel needs to get real with this along with giving
> customers a lot more flexibility in choosing programing options.
>
>
> Colin
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~colinf/product.htm
>

[an]

"Bassett" <bassett@bassettskennel.com.au> wrote in message
news:3fcd68e7@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> Actually, the real way to do it, would be if the pay providers where to
sell
> Smartcards ONLY,, the same way as you obtain a Phone card. In that way,
> you call into your local newsagency, buy a card with the channels you
want,
> on it. The fee charged would only cover the channels you anted, then at
> the end of a month, the card would switch off, and you buy another card...
> Won't work scream the pay providers.. Firstly in works in European
> countries
> and has done for many years, Just check in some of the European satellite
> magazines,, They show pages and pages of legal program cards, secondly,,
> the pay providers could increase there subscription platform , by 60000
> subscribers, for the price of a card, by allowing Aurora subscribers to
> use there own receivers on the pay platform .
>
> bassett


That would be an excellent plan Bassett, $79 a month just to watch FOX8 on
austar
is far too expensive.


>
> "The declining Kwyjibo." <removesdrawkcabtlepsgod@yahoo.com.au> wrote in
> message news:Xns94469D250880Bssss@130.133.1.4...
> > And the Lord did grin, and people did feast upon the lambs, and sloths,
> > and carp, and anchovies, and orangutans, and breakfast cereals, and
> > fruit bats, and "NewsMan" <cocopops@nospam.hotpop.com> spake, saying
> >
> >
> > > "What we want to do is encourage people who have pirate services to
> > > contact us and legitimise their services."
> >
> > Bullshit, If that was the case they would not force users to use the
> Foxtel
> > box and pay an installation fee for something they already own.
> > If they were serious about this they would just be charging the postage
> > cost of sending out a legit smartcard, then your normal subs fee less a
> > discount for not renting a Foxtel STB from that point on.
> >
> > --
> >
> > Kwyj.
>
>

[Bassett]

So how many channels do you watch at once..


"an" <an@aol.com> wrote in message > That would be an excellent plan
Bassett, $79 a month just to watch FOX8 on
> austar
> is far too expensive

> "Bassett" <bassett@bassettskennel.com.au> wrote in message
> > Actually, the real way to do it, would be if the pay providers where to
> sell
> > Smartcards ONLY,, the same way as you obtain a Phone card. In that way,
> > you call into your local newsagency, buy a card with the channels you
> want,
> > on it. The fee charged would only cover the channels you anted, then
at
> > the end of a month, the card would switch off, and you buy another
card...
> > Won't work scream the pay providers.. Firstly in works in European
> > countries
> > and has done for many years, Just check in some of the European
satellite
> > magazines,, They show pages and pages of legal program cards, secondly,,
> > the pay providers could increase there subscription platform , by 60000
> > subscribers, for the price of a card, by allowing Aurora subscribers to
> > use there own receivers on the pay platform .
> >
> > bassett
>
>
> .
>
>

[Weststate A/V Systems]

Byron John Forbes wrote:

> I disagree. I think it should just be the works for $30 - $40 per month.
> Anything over $40 and I say lets go see the pirate! :)
>

Opinions are always going to vary on the amount and what is considered
good value. I do know that people are certainly not going to take on a
big monthly repayment just to watch what Foxtel offers.



Colin
http://members.iinet.net.au/~colinf/product.htm

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"Bassett" <bassett@bassettskennel.com.au> wrote in message
news:3fcfe834@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> Thats why some bright bastard invented a Chainsaw,,

That's why some bright providers invented "Card only" service.

>
> "boganbill" <Joshua@DELETETHISciecorp.com.au> wrote in message
> news:3fcfafe2$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > lol pirate, same bullshit that I got five years ago when I wanted Austar
> but
> > I lived in the "Foxtel satellite area"
> >
> > Now there is none for me though cause of that fucking tree right in
front
> of
> > where my dish needs to be.
> >
> > *sigh* such is life
> >
> > "A Very Nasty Pirate" <Doc@eatmoresheep.com> wrote in message
> > news:3fcf3707@quokka.wn.com.au...
> > >
> > > "NewsMan" <cocopops@nospam.hotpop.com> wrote in message
> > > news:bqis42$1v70$1@otis.netspace.net.au...
> > > >
> > > > <SNIP>
> > > >
> > > > ...Foxtel spokesman Mark Furness said the new smartcards were
> > > "pirate-proof
> > > > technology" and would quickly render all imitations useless.
> > > >
> > > > "This technology has not been cracked by pirates in three years of
use
> > in
> > > > other markets around the world," he said.
> > > >
> > > > "What we want to do is encourage people who have pirate services to
> > > contact
> > > > us and legitimise their services."
> > > >
> > > > The anti-piracy technology is the first phase in Foxtel's estimated
> $550
> > > > million roll-out of digital television services, due for completion
in
> > the
> > > > first half of next year. All subscribers will eventually get a new
> > digital
> > > > set-top box allowing them to view more than 100 digital channels.
> > > >
> > > > Foxtel - jointly owned by Telstra, News Corp, and Publishing and
> > > > Broadcasting Ltd - will also enable viewers to interact with the
> > > television
> > > > station via their telephone line.
> > > >
> > > > The digital roll-out faces a major hurdle in winning approval from
the
> > > > Australian Competition and Consumer Commission on third party-access
> > > issues.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Details:
> > > > http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/12/02/1070351579804.html
> > > > More news:
> > > > http://www.auspaytv.com.au/forums/ipdl.php
> > > >
> > > > ***
> > > >
> > > > On cable TV they have a weather channel - 24 hours of weather. We
had
> > > > something like that where I grew up. We called it a window.
> > > > -- Dan Spencer
> > > >
> > > > Ahhhhhhh me hearties,me pirate goldie is still banging away,goin
like
> a
> > > beauty
> > > and when it does die in the arse i wont be gettin that
> > > Foxtel.........Because the "Cunts"
> > > dont cover this part of the world.........Because"Sorry Sir,your
> > outside
> > > of the
> > > Satellite footprint"..........lol..........now let me sing ya
> > > song........a pirate song.........
> > > "I'll sing ya song,a song of the sea,Birdseye
> fishfingers..........not
> > > really a pirate song.....
> > > So "Fuck you Foxtel" and.....and.......ah what the fuck...."Fuck
you
> > > Telstra......Even Bigger Cunts"
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh..........lol.................. ...baaaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaa
> > > aaa
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>