using VLS/VLC with DVB-T card in Australia

[David Moylan]

greetings,

i'm currently playing with a Nova-T DVB-T PCI card running under linux and
i'm trying to get Videolan Server running so i can stream output to machines
on my local network.

i've successfully used DVBSTREAM to stream digital output to desktops (using
VLC on the desktop) via multicast, but since i have to send the entire TS
for a selected channel, this takes up approx 20Mbit of my 100Mbit bandwidth
for all machines.

i've been trying to get VLS (Videolan Server) up and running but i get stuck
editing the "dvbrc" file which is required by libdvb. i don't have a working
example for australia/melbourne. i can get the format right on the channel
definitions, but don't understand the header format.

can anyone assist? it would be great to get VLS up and running for my
network.

any assist please e-mail or post in this thread.

cheers, Wiz!!

e-mail: djm (at) wiz (dot) net (dot) au

[vortex]

Just use the VLC as the streaming server. It will do it and I found the VLS
to be a lot more limited.


"David Moylan" <djm@NOSPAMwiz.net.au> wrote in message
news:0CSCb.52019$aT.20975@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> greetings,
>
> i'm currently playing with a Nova-T DVB-T PCI card running under linux and
> i'm trying to get Videolan Server running so i can stream output to
machines
> on my local network.
>
> i've successfully used DVBSTREAM to stream digital output to desktops
(using
> VLC on the desktop) via multicast, but since i have to send the entire TS
> for a selected channel, this takes up approx 20Mbit of my 100Mbit
bandwidth
> for all machines.
>
> i've been trying to get VLS (Videolan Server) up and running but i get
stuck
> editing the "dvbrc" file which is required by libdvb. i don't have a
working
> example for australia/melbourne. i can get the format right on the channel
> definitions, but don't understand the header format.
>
> can anyone assist? it would be great to get VLS up and running for my
> network.
>
> any assist please e-mail or post in this thread.
>
> cheers, Wiz!!
>
> e-mail: djm (at) wiz (dot) net (dot) au
>
>

[Black Mamba]

The possibilites which the VideoLAN project offers are heaps exciting (well,
for me anyway) but I can't work out what the difference is between VLC and
VLS. Is there anywhere that outlines the main differences?

Nick

"vortex" <noone@nowhere.nul> wrote in message
news:brj6gn$qi3$1@pinah.connect.com.au...
> Just use the VLC as the streaming server. It will do it and I found the
VLS
> to be a lot more limited.
>
>
> "David Moylan" <djm@NOSPAMwiz.net.au> wrote in message
> news:0CSCb.52019$aT.20975@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > greetings,
> >
> > i'm currently playing with a Nova-T DVB-T PCI card running under linux
and
> > i'm trying to get Videolan Server running so i can stream output to
> machines
> > on my local network.
> >
> > i've successfully used DVBSTREAM to stream digital output to desktops
> (using
> > VLC on the desktop) via multicast, but since i have to send the entire
TS
> > for a selected channel, this takes up approx 20Mbit of my 100Mbit
> bandwidth
> > for all machines.
> >
> > i've been trying to get VLS (Videolan Server) up and running but i get
> stuck
> > editing the "dvbrc" file which is required by libdvb. i don't have a
> working
> > example for australia/melbourne. i can get the format right on the
channel
> > definitions, but don't understand the header format.
> >
> > can anyone assist? it would be great to get VLS up and running for my
> > network.
> >
> > any assist please e-mail or post in this thread.
> >
> > cheers, Wiz!!
> >
> > e-mail: djm (at) wiz (dot) net (dot) au
> >
> >
>
>

[Smiling Bob]

"Black Mamba" <black_mamba-NOSPAM-@hotpop.com> wrote in
news:3fdd50e5$2@duster.adelaide.on.net:
> (well, for me anyway) but I can't work out what the difference is
> between VLC and VLS. Is there anywhere that outlines the main
> differences?

From: http://www.videolan.org/doc/faq/en/videolan-faq-en.html#AEN147

#####

Yes, both programs can be used to stream video, as explained in the
VideoLAN HOWTO. The streaming features of each program are described
on the streaming features page.

Technically, there is an important difference:

VLC opens all the system layers of the input stream, regenerate
them all and then stream the result on the network or write it to a
file. So VLC is good at streaming untrusted video and/or audio
sources, like the video files found on the Internet and/or produced
by non-professionnal software. VLC implements many muxers/demuxers
(ps, ts, avi, ogg, mp4, ...) and many codecs, which allows to convert
encapsulation formats and/or transcode an input stream on-the-fly !
VLC also has nice graphical interfaces.

VLS only opens the highest system layers of the input stream and
only has PS and TS demxuers. So VLS is good at streaming from trusted
video and/or audio sources in PS or TS format produced by professional
software or hardware like DVDs and DVB channels (satellite or digital
terrestial TV) because it only regenerate the system layers that need
to be regenerated, and no more. VLS is specially well designed to
stream multiplexed TS streams, for instance a whole DVB transponder.
VLS only has a TS muxer, doesn't do transcoding and doesn't have
graphical interfaces.

To be a real streamer, VLC would need to be able to read multiple
sources at the same time. VLS can do this since its origin, but VLC
cannot do this for the moment. Some VLC developers are working on a new
version of the VLC input, known as "Input 4", which should address this
issue.

####

HTH,

Bob

[Smiling Bob]

"Black Mamba" <black_mamba-NOSPAM-@hotpop.com> wrote in
news:3fdd50e5$2@duster.adelaide.on.net:
> (well, for me anyway) but I can't work out what the difference is
> between VLC and VLS. Is there anywhere that outlines the main
> differences?

Also, the pretty picture on this page might help you get your
head around it http://www.videolan.org/streaming/

(or it may well just confuse you more!!!)

HTH,

Bob

[David Moylan]

i really want to get VLS running ... i'm going to have 4 DVB-T cards in one
box
so i can stream all of 2, 7, 9 and 10 digital.

VLS is ideally suited for this.

is anyone able to assist with the structure of the .dvbrc file?

cheers, Wiz!!

"vortex" <noone@nowhere.nul> wrote in message
news:brj6gn$qi3$1@pinah.connect.com.au...
> Just use the VLC as the streaming server. It will do it and I found the
VLS
> to be a lot more limited.
>
>
> "David Moylan" <djm@NOSPAMwiz.net.au> wrote in message
> news:0CSCb.52019$aT.20975@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > greetings,
> >
> > i'm currently playing with a Nova-T DVB-T PCI card running under linux
and
> > i'm trying to get Videolan Server running so i can stream output to
> machines
> > on my local network.
> >
> > i've successfully used DVBSTREAM to stream digital output to desktops
> (using
> > VLC on the desktop) via multicast, but since i have to send the entire
TS
> > for a selected channel, this takes up approx 20Mbit of my 100Mbit
> bandwidth
> > for all machines.
> >
> > i've been trying to get VLS (Videolan Server) up and running but i get
> stuck
> > editing the "dvbrc" file which is required by libdvb. i don't have a
> working
> > example for australia/melbourne. i can get the format right on the
channel
> > definitions, but don't understand the header format.
> >
> > can anyone assist? it would be great to get VLS up and running for my
> > network.
> >
> > any assist please e-mail or post in this thread.
> >
> > cheers, Wiz!!
> >
> > e-mail: djm (at) wiz (dot) net (dot) au
> >
> >
>
>