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doofynz
17-12-2003, 12:36 PM
can some one tell me the best place to buy dvd's in melbourne

I don't mean places like jb's and the like

places where you can get imported dvd's and hard to find dvd's as I am
trying to find

Roger Corman Triple Feature

http://www.shock.com.au/releases/info.asp?release_ID=123913

none of the major stories has it which is a pain

and does any know who import american movies

AngryofMayfair
17-12-2003, 03:46 PM
>
> none of the major stories has it which is a pain
>
> and does any know who import american movies

There's a mob in Elizabeth street just down from JB who sell US DVD's but
you will really pay for it - you would be far better off buying it on the
Internet from the US...

Dawn Davenport
17-12-2003, 07:46 PM
Knowing Shock it probably hasn't been released yet or delayed, maybe that's
why no one has it yet.



"doofynz" <doofynz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1f85e47a.0312161725.11ffd304@posting.google.c om...
> can some one tell me the best place to buy dvd's in melbourne
>
> I don't mean places like jb's and the like
>
> places where you can get imported dvd's and hard to find dvd's as I am
> trying to find
>
> Roger Corman Triple Feature
>
> http://www.shock.com.au/releases/info.asp?release_ID=123913
>
> none of the major stories has it which is a pain
>
> and does any know who import american movies

hummer
17-12-2003, 08:06 PM
On 16 Dec 2003 17:25:17 -0800, doofynz@hotmail.com (doofynz) wrote:

>can some one tell me the best place to buy dvd's in melbourne
>
>I don't mean places like jb's and the like
>
>places where you can get imported dvd's and hard to find dvd's as I am
>trying to find
>
>Roger Corman Triple Feature
>
>http://www.shock.com.au/releases/info.asp?release_ID=123913
>
>none of the major stories has it which is a pain
>
>and does any know who import american movies

There are massive fines for any store selling any other region DVD's
in Australia. Fines are $50,000 per imported DVD that the seller is
selling. eg. If you the seller is selling two copies of the one DVD
itle then the fines are $100,000 which is why most don't sell any
other region media except for region code 4 media. There are some
region code free media available which is legal.

Data888
18-12-2003, 12:46 AM
AngryofMayfair wrote:
>>none of the major stories has it which is a pain
>>
>>and does any know who import american movies
>
>
> There's a mob in Elizabeth street just down from JB who sell US DVD's but
> you will really pay for it - you would be far better off buying it on the
> Internet from the US...
>

Minotaur?

DVD Guy
18-12-2003, 08:46 AM
Just save yourself the hassle and get another title. You don't really need
the other one anyway.

Just go to harvey norman or JB - they WILL sell what you want.


"doofynz" <doofynz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1f85e47a.0312161725.11ffd304@posting.google.c om...
> can some one tell me the best place to buy dvd's in melbourne
>
> I don't mean places like jb's and the like
>
> places where you can get imported dvd's and hard to find dvd's as I am
> trying to find
>
> Roger Corman Triple Feature
>
> http://www.shock.com.au/releases/info.asp?release_ID=123913
>
> none of the major stories has it which is a pain
>
> and does any know who import american movies

Ian Galbraith
18-12-2003, 08:56 AM
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 00:42:58 +1100, Data888
<kcinSPAMBLOCK@bigfoot.com.au> wrote:

>AngryofMayfair wrote:
>>>none of the major stories has it which is a pain

>>>and does any know who import american movies

>> There's a mob in Elizabeth street just down from JB who sell US DVD's but
>> you will really pay for it - you would be far better off buying it on the
>> Internet from the US...

>Minotaur?

He's talking about Video Collection who are just as bad pricewise as
Minotaur, but don't have as good a range. The OP would be far better
off buying over the internet.

Michael Callaghan
18-12-2003, 01:46 PM
"hummer" <hummer@au.com> wrote in message > There are massive fines for any
store selling any other region DVD's
> in Australia. Fines are $50,000 per imported DVD that the seller is
> selling. eg. If you the seller is selling two copies of the one DVD
> itle then the fines are $100,000 which is why most don't sell any
> other region media except for region code 4 media.

Hi

I have heard this myth a number of times now - can you tell us the relevent
piece of legislation/law that cites these penalties?

Chops

hummer
18-12-2003, 02:36 PM
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:37:07 GMT, "Michael Callaghan"
<mcal@deakin.eud.au> wrote:

>
>"hummer" <hummer@au.com> wrote in message > There are massive fines for any
>store selling any other region DVD's
>> in Australia. Fines are $50,000 per imported DVD that the seller is
>> selling. eg. If you the seller is selling two copies of the one DVD
>> itle then the fines are $100,000 which is why most don't sell any
>> other region media except for region code 4 media.
>
>Hi
>
>I have heard this myth a number of times now - can you tell us the relevent
>piece of legislation/law that cites these penalties?

Why do you think there are region codes?
Why do you think stores don't import an dsell region code 1 media.
Why do you think that when stores do sell and then at a latter point
are not seen again.

Your most welcome to contact the video group that controls dvd video
into Australia. They will put you straight.

If you want to believe its a myth then that's your problem.
I don't care. Just pointing out why stores don't sell region code 1
movies. You can choose to believe this or not. Means nothing to me.

Michael Callaghan
18-12-2003, 03:46 PM
"hummer" <hummer@au.com> wrote in message
news:jh72uvgj73d44datfo4uch9q9hprbia8kt@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:37:07 GMT, "Michael Callaghan"
> <mcal@deakin.eud.au> wrote:
>
> >
> >"hummer" <hummer@au.com> wrote in message > There are massive fines for
any
> >store selling any other region DVD's
> >> in Australia. Fines are $50,000 per imported DVD that the seller is
> >> selling. eg. If you the seller is selling two copies of the one DVD
> >> itle then the fines are $100,000 which is why most don't sell any
> >> other region media except for region code 4 media.
> >
> >Hi
> >
> >I have heard this myth a number of times now - can you tell us the
relevent
> >piece of legislation/law that cites these penalties?
>
> Why do you think there are region codes?
> Why do you think stores don't import an dsell region code 1 media.
> Why do you think that when stores do sell and then at a latter point
> are not seen again.

They are all good points .... but .... Stores that sell region 4 DVDs don't
imprt region 1 DVDs because the local distributors would refuse to sell
region 4 to them - not because they are breaking any law. I am not aware of
any legislation or law that forbids the importation and sale of DVDs from
other regions. I am aware that there is legislation that allows paralell
imports (which runs contrary to your point). I am also aware as to why the
manufacturers have created region codes - this is to restrict the market and
maximise profits (there is actually legal argument against this, that
considers it restaint of trade under the trade practices act)... but all in
all I have never seen any law that makes it illegal to import and sell DVDs
from other regions (provided they are genuine).

If what you say was true then Minator would have been one of the first to
close - they have never hidden their imported DVDs and Videos.

The reason why I ask is that you seem to be very knowledgeable, especially
as you are able to quote the finacial penalties associated with this "Law"
.... that (of itself) indicated to me that you must actually know the piece
of legislation, act, regulation or otherwise that specifies these fines.

Your reaction seems to indicate to me that you are just one of those that
continue to proliferate this mythical "law".

It's fine if you don't know - I would just like to know myself where these
laws/rules/regulations are and who can actually enforce them.

Cheers

Chops

Codswallop
18-12-2003, 04:26 PM
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 03:29:26 GMT, hummer wrote in aus.dvd:

> Why do you think there are region codes?

To allow the studios to determine their own home market release dates
without fear of clashing with their theatrical runs.


> Why do you think stores don't import an dsell region code 1 media.

Often because of pressure from local distributors.


> Why do you think that when stores do sell and then at a latter point
> are not seen again.

Probably because the Australian copyright holder and distributor
threaten. My understanding is that imported copies are considered
infringing copies until it is proven that they are non-infringing
copies.


> Your most welcome to contact the video group that controls dvd video
> into Australia. They will put you straight.

http://austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/tpa1974149/s47.html
http://austlii.edu.au/au/legis/cth/consol_act/ca1968133/s130a.html
http://austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/disp.pl/au/cases/cth/FCAFC/2003/193.html

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Codswallop
18-12-2003, 04:36 PM
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:24:02 GMT, Codswallop wrote in aus.dvd:

> My understanding is that imported copies are considered infringing
> copies until it is proven that they are non-infringing copies.

Sorry, wrong way around.

Imported copies are "innocent until proven guilty".

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hummer
18-12-2003, 05:16 PM
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:27:39 GMT, Codswallop <chunkylover53@aol.com>
wrote:

>On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 05:24:02 GMT, Codswallop wrote in aus.dvd:
>
>> My understanding is that imported copies are considered infringing
>> copies until it is proven that they are non-infringing copies.
>
>Sorry, wrong way around.
>
>Imported copies are "innocent until proven guilty".

It is legal to import for private use.
But its illegal to import to onsell.
The fines are $50,000 per dvd title.
Say if you have two copies of the same dvd title then that's 2 x
$50,000 in fines which is $100,000 fine.

Its why so many that have been caught no longer sell region code 1
titles. If region code 1 was legal everyone would be selling them
because they are cheaper than region code 4 titles.

There are some region code 1 titles that are made to be sold here but
if they are not made to be sold here and your a store selling them or
at the markets selling them then expect to be nabbed.

Tallulah Blanket
18-12-2003, 09:16 PM
Michael Callaghan wrote:

> "hummer" <hummer@au.com> wrote in message
> news:jh72uvgj73d44datfo4uch9q9hprbia8kt@4ax.com...
>
>>On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:37:07 GMT, "Michael Callaghan"
>><mcal@deakin.eud.au> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"hummer" <hummer@au.com> wrote in message > There are massive fines for
>
> any
>
>>>store selling any other region DVD's
>>>
>>>>in Australia. Fines are $50,000 per imported DVD that the seller is
>>>>selling. eg. If you the seller is selling two copies of the one DVD
>>>>itle then the fines are $100,000 which is why most don't sell any
>>>>other region media except for region code 4 media.
>>>
>>>Hi
>>>
>>>I have heard this myth a number of times now - can you tell us the
>
> relevent
>
>>>piece of legislation/law that cites these penalties?
>>
>>Why do you think there are region codes?
>>Why do you think stores don't import an dsell region code 1 media.
>>Why do you think that when stores do sell and then at a latter point
>>are not seen again.
>
>
> They are all good points .... but .... Stores that sell region 4 DVDs don't
> imprt region 1 DVDs because the local distributors would refuse to sell
> region 4 to them - not because they are breaking any law.

Wrong.

I am not aware of
> any legislation or law that forbids the importation and sale of DVDs from
> other regions. I am aware that there is legislation that allows paralell
> imports (which runs contrary to your point).

The Copyright Act prohibits the parallel importation of films on any
form of home video for the purposes of re-sale. If you import them for
your own use, that's fine and legal. It is also illegal to sell any
film on DVD unless the DVD has been cleared by the OFLC. Imported R1
DVDs are not, by and large, cleared and the importer can't argue that
it's the "same" as the R4 version - the OFLC won't know that until it
has reviewed it.

Dawn Davenport
18-12-2003, 10:16 PM
JB Hi Fi Melbourne City do have that dvd in stock, it's in their Horror
section.



"doofynz" <doofynz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1f85e47a.0312161725.11ffd304@posting.google.c om...
> can some one tell me the best place to buy dvd's in melbourne
>
> I don't mean places like jb's and the like
>
> places where you can get imported dvd's and hard to find dvd's as I am
> trying to find
>
> Roger Corman Triple Feature
>
> http://www.shock.com.au/releases/info.asp?release_ID=123913
>
> none of the major stories has it which is a pain
>
> and does any know who import american movies

Codswallop
18-12-2003, 11:36 PM
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:11:22 GMT, hummer wrote in aus.dvd:

> It is legal to import for private use.
> But its illegal to import to onsell.
> The fines are $50,000 per dvd title.
> Say if you have two copies of the same dvd title then that's 2 x
> $50,000 in fines which is $100,000 fine.

That's what I hear; can you be the one who has a link to a credible site
with proof?

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Codswallop
18-12-2003, 11:36 PM
On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 06:11:22 GMT, hummer wrote in aus.dvd:

> If region code 1 was legal everyone would be selling them
> because they are cheaper than region code 4 titles.

That's a different matter. There are laws which prevent importation of
identical but cheaper products, if they're below cost price or
something. Doesn't just relate to DVDs.

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Michael Callaghan
19-12-2003, 10:56 AM
"Tallulah Blanket" <beulah@peelmeagrape.com> wrote in message
news:B_eEb.57102$aT.29340@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Michael Callaghan wrote:
>
> > "hummer" <hummer@au.com> wrote in message
> > news:jh72uvgj73d44datfo4uch9q9hprbia8kt@4ax.com...
> >
> >>On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:37:07 GMT, "Michael Callaghan"
> >><mcal@deakin.eud.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>"hummer" <hummer@au.com> wrote in message > There are massive fines for
> >
> > any
> >
> >>>store selling any other region DVD's
> >>>
> >>>>in Australia. Fines are $50,000 per imported DVD that the seller is
> >>>>selling. eg. If you the seller is selling two copies of the one DVD
> >>>>itle then the fines are $100,000 which is why most don't sell any
> >>>>other region media except for region code 4 media.
> >>>
> >>>Hi
> >>>
> >>>I have heard this myth a number of times now - can you tell us the
> >
> > relevent
> >
> >>>piece of legislation/law that cites these penalties?
> >>
> >>Why do you think there are region codes?
> >>Why do you think stores don't import an dsell region code 1 media.
> >>Why do you think that when stores do sell and then at a latter point
> >>are not seen again.
> >
> >
> > They are all good points .... but .... Stores that sell region 4 DVDs
don't
> > imprt region 1 DVDs because the local distributors would refuse to sell
> > region 4 to them - not because they are breaking any law.
>
> Wrong.
>
> I am not aware of
> > any legislation or law that forbids the importation and sale of DVDs
from
> > other regions. I am aware that there is legislation that allows paralell
> > imports (which runs contrary to your point).
>
> The Copyright Act prohibits the parallel importation of films on any
> form of home video for the purposes of re-sale. If you import them for
> your own use, that's fine and legal. It is also illegal to sell any
> film on DVD unless the DVD has been cleared by the OFLC. Imported R1
> DVDs are not, by and large, cleared and the importer can't argue that
> it's the "same" as the R4 version - the OFLC won't know that until it
> has reviewed it.

Ok ... now that makes sense! thanks Blanket .... is it the OFLC that has the
authority to issue these fines that Hummer quotes? I simply can't understand
how or why Minator would run the risk if the finacial penalty was that
great. I know they have a massive profit margin (thats very clear by their
prices) but on any day they would have at least 20 imported region disks on
the shelf, many that would not have been sighted by the OFLC, 20 x $50, 000
= $1,000,000 ! No business of their size would carry that sort of risk if
the fines were as Hummer suggests.

Chops
>

Tallulah Blanket
19-12-2003, 08:16 PM
Michael Callaghan wrote:

> "Tallulah Blanket" <beulah@peelmeagrape.com> wrote in message
> news:B_eEb.57102$aT.29340@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>>Michael Callaghan wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"hummer" <hummer@au.com> wrote in message
>>>news:jh72uvgj73d44datfo4uch9q9hprbia8kt@4ax.com...
>>>
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 18 Dec 2003 02:37:07 GMT, "Michael Callaghan"
>>>><mcal@deakin.eud.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>"hummer" <hummer@au.com> wrote in message > There are massive fines for
>>>
>>>any
>>>
>>>
>>>>>store selling any other region DVD's
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>in Australia. Fines are $50,000 per imported DVD that the seller is
>>>>>>selling. eg. If you the seller is selling two copies of the one DVD
>>>>>>itle then the fines are $100,000 which is why most don't sell any
>>>>>>other region media except for region code 4 media.
>>>>>
>>>>>Hi
>>>>>
>>>>>I have heard this myth a number of times now - can you tell us the
>>>
>>>relevent
>>>
>>>
>>>>>piece of legislation/law that cites these penalties?
>>>>
>>>>Why do you think there are region codes?
>>>>Why do you think stores don't import an dsell region code 1 media.
>>>>Why do you think that when stores do sell and then at a latter point
>>>>are not seen again.
>>>
>>>
>>>They are all good points .... but .... Stores that sell region 4 DVDs
>
> don't
>
>>>imprt region 1 DVDs because the local distributors would refuse to sell
>>>region 4 to them - not because they are breaking any law.
>>
>>Wrong.
>>
>>I am not aware of
>>
>>>any legislation or law that forbids the importation and sale of DVDs
>
> from
>
>>>other regions. I am aware that there is legislation that allows paralell
>>>imports (which runs contrary to your point).
>>
>>The Copyright Act prohibits the parallel importation of films on any
>>form of home video for the purposes of re-sale. If you import them for
>>your own use, that's fine and legal. It is also illegal to sell any
>>film on DVD unless the DVD has been cleared by the OFLC. Imported R1
>>DVDs are not, by and large, cleared and the importer can't argue that
>>it's the "same" as the R4 version - the OFLC won't know that until it
>>has reviewed it.
>
>
> Ok ... now that makes sense! thanks Blanket .... is it the OFLC that has the
> authority to issue these fines that Hummer quotes? I simply can't understand
> how or why Minator would run the risk if the finacial penalty was that
> great. I know they have a massive profit margin (thats very clear by their
> prices) but on any day they would have at least 20 imported region disks on
> the shelf, many that would not have been sighted by the OFLC, 20 x $50, 000
> = $1,000,000 ! No business of their size would carry that sort of risk if
> the fines were as Hummer suggests.
>
The fines are dealt out via the Copyright Act. I'm not sure what the
fine is from the OFLC - but it could possibly be criminal. Only a
serious, repeat offender would be fined anything near the maximum.

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