Color vision SPYDER question

[Brenton]

With the Aussie dollar doing well it is now time to buy myself a chrissy
present.
Can someone in "simple" terms explain the difference between the
photocal and the optical software so I can work out if it is worth the
extra. Has any one got experience with them???
Thanks
Brenton

[Malcolm Smith]

I think they are sold in Aus by Kayell and they have something about
photocal/optical on their website.

Malcolm

"Brenton" <neuschulz@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> With the Aussie dollar doing well it is now time to buy myself a chrissy
> present.
> Can someone in "simple" terms explain the difference between the
> photocal and the optical software so I can work out if it is worth the
> extra. Has any one got experience with them???
> Thanks
> Brenton
>

[M i c C u l l e n]

Brenton <neuschulz@bigpond.com>, far, far away from here, appears to
have written:

[snips]

> Can someone in "simple" terms explain the difference between the
> photocal and the optical software so I can work out if it is worth the
> extra. Has any one got experience with them???

I bought the GretagMacBeth EyeOne Display instead :-)
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cheers, Mic (Reply address works...)

If you spend less than you earn, you'll never be in debt.

[Fred]

It seems that the PhotoCal software is a light version of OptiCal
http://www.isight.com.au/faq.html#fourteen

Brenton wrote:
> With the Aussie dollar doing well it is now time to buy myself a
> chrissy present.
> Can someone in "simple" terms explain the difference between the
> photocal and the optical software so I can work out if it is worth the
> extra. Has any one got experience with them???
> Thanks
> Brenton

[Lionel]

Kibo informs me that Brenton <neuschulz@bigpond.com> stated that:

>With the Aussie dollar doing well it is now time to buy myself a chrissy
>present.
>Can someone in "simple" terms explain the difference between the
>photocal and the optical software so I can work out if it is worth the
>extra. Has any one got experience with them???

Yep. I have Optical, which includes Photocal. Basically, the major
difference is that Optical gives you absolute measurements, giving you a
more precise result (if you're willing to take the extra time
calibrating), & making it possible to match multiple monitors to the
same standard. I've used both, & I prefer the results from Photocal.

PS: The best price I found for the Spyder & Optical S/W was from B&H in
the USA. Local prices were way higher at the time.

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[Julian Robinson]

If you (or anyone interested) live in Canberra, I'd be happy to go
halves in buying one of these. It seems ridiculous for lots of people
to own their own when the good ones are expensive and you would only
use it every month or two or three. In fact I wonder if any of the
photo clubs own one, that would be a sensible idea ... must check this
out.

Julian


On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 10:21:35 GMT, Brenton <neuschulz@bigpond.com>
wrote:

>With the Aussie dollar doing well it is now time to buy myself a chrissy
>present.
>Can someone in "simple" terms explain the difference between the
>photocal and the optical software so I can work out if it is worth the
>extra. Has any one got experience with them???
>Thanks
>Brenton

[Cameron]

Brenton,

To be totally honest with you I wouldn't waste your money on the Spyder. I
have one (with Optical/Photocal) and the resultant profiles are pretty
crappy (i.e Probably not as good as using your eye and adobe gamma). I
would 100% support Miccullen and get the Gretag EyeOne. I now use one of
those and the profiles are perfect.

Cameron

"Brenton" <neuschulz@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:3FE4234A.6000809@bigpond.com...
> With the Aussie dollar doing well it is now time to buy myself a chrissy
> present.
> Can someone in "simple" terms explain the difference between the
> photocal and the optical software so I can work out if it is worth the
> extra. Has any one got experience with them???
> Thanks
> Brenton
>

[Brenton]

Cameron wrote:
> Brenton,
>
> To be totally honest with you I wouldn't waste your money on the Spyder. I
> have one (with Optical/Photocal) and the resultant profiles are pretty
> crappy (i.e Probably not as good as using your eye and adobe gamma). I
> would 100% support Miccullen and get the Gretag EyeOne. I now use one of
> those and the profiles are perfect.
>
> Cameron
>
> "Brenton" <neuschulz@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:3FE4234A.6000809@bigpond.com...
>
>>With the Aussie dollar doing well it is now time to buy myself a chrissy
>>present.
>>Can someone in "simple" terms explain the difference between the
>>photocal and the optical software so I can work out if it is worth the
>>extra. Has any one got experience with them???
>>Thanks
>>Brenton
>>


Got a link (I Can't find one... but I am very lazy) are these about the
same price??? and have the same functions.
BRenton

[Cameron]

"Brenton" <neuschulz@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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> Cameron wrote:
> > Brenton,
> >
> > To be totally honest with you I wouldn't waste your money on the Spyder.
I
> > have one (with Optical/Photocal) and the resultant profiles are pretty
> > crappy (i.e Probably not as good as using your eye and adobe gamma). I
> > would 100% support Miccullen and get the Gretag EyeOne. I now use one
of
> > those and the profiles are perfect.
>
>
> Got a link (I Can't find one... but I am very lazy) are these about the
> same price??? and have the same functions.
> BRenton
>

Try this .pdf file...

http://www.gretagmacbeth.com/files/products/i1Brochure40703.pdf

Try this link...

[Cameron]

"Cameron" <ialreadyget@300spamaday.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Brenton" <neuschulz@bigpond.com> wrote in message
> news:3FE82B7A.1040505@bigpond.com...
> > Cameron wrote:
> > > Brenton,
> > >
> > > To be totally honest with you I wouldn't waste your money on the
Spyder.
> I
> > > have one (with Optical/Photocal) and the resultant profiles are pretty
> > > crappy (i.e Probably not as good as using your eye and adobe gamma).
I
> > > would 100% support Miccullen and get the Gretag EyeOne. I now use one
> of
> > > those and the profiles are perfect.
> >
> >
> > Got a link (I Can't find one... but I am very lazy) are these about the
> > same price??? and have the same functions.
> > BRenton
> >
>
> Try this .pdf file...
>
> http://www.gretagmacbeth.com/files/products/i1Brochure40703.pdf
>
> Try this link...

http://www.i1color.com/products/i1_display.asp

The Eye-One display is about the same price as the Pantone (was Colorvision)
Spyder (US$250) and operates virtually the same. I find the profiles to be
a LOT better, especially in the neutrals. I use a G520 Sony, a Matrox G550
and the Eye-One with great results.

HTH,

Cameron

>
>

[Lionel]

Kibo informs me that "Cameron" <ialreadyget@300spamaday.com> stated
that:

>Brenton,
>
>To be totally honest with you I wouldn't waste your money on the Spyder. I
>have one (with Optical/Photocal) and the resultant profiles are pretty
>crappy (i.e Probably not as good as using your eye and adobe gamma).

If you're getting results no better than using Adobe Gamma, you're most
likely doing something very wrongly. I recommend thoroughly reading the
online doc's.

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[Cameron]

"Lionel" <nop@alt.net> wrote in message
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> Kibo informs me that "Cameron" <ialreadyget@300spamaday.com> stated
> that:
>
> >Brenton,
> >
> >To be totally honest with you I wouldn't waste your money on the Spyder.
I
> >have one (with Optical/Photocal) and the resultant profiles are pretty
> >crappy (i.e Probably not as good as using your eye and adobe gamma).
>
> If you're getting results no better than using Adobe Gamma, you're most
> likely doing something very wrongly. I recommend thoroughly reading the
> online doc's.

Thanks for your tip but I was doing it right. Maybe my definition of a
great profile is different to yours?

Cameron

>
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> . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
> \|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
> ---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

[Lionel]

Kibo informs me that "Cameron" <ialreadyget@300spamaday.com> stated
that:

>"Lionel" <nop@alt.net> wrote in message
>> If you're getting results no better than using Adobe Gamma, you're most
>> likely doing something very wrongly. I recommend thoroughly reading the
>> online doc's.
>
>Thanks for your tip but I was doing it right. Maybe my definition of a
>great profile is different to yours?

Well, that's certainly possible. Still, while I'm quite willing to
accept that the Spyder isn't the best screen profiler on the market,
it'd have to be really, really bad to be any worse than Adobe Gamma + a
pair of eyes, no matter how good those eyes may be.

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W
. | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
\|/ \|/ it is illegal to kill them." Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------

[Cameron]

"Lionel" <nop@alt.net> wrote in message
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> Kibo informs me that "Cameron" <ialreadyget@300spamaday.com> stated
> that:
>
> >"Lionel" <nop@alt.net> wrote in message
> >> If you're getting results no better than using Adobe Gamma, you're most
> >> likely doing something very wrongly. I recommend thoroughly reading the
> >> online doc's.
> >
> >Thanks for your tip but I was doing it right. Maybe my definition of a
> >great profile is different to yours?
>
> Well, that's certainly possible. Still, while I'm quite willing to
> accept that the Spyder isn't the best screen profiler on the market,
> it'd have to be really, really bad to be any worse than Adobe Gamma + a
> pair of eyes, no matter how good those eyes may be.

Maybe I was stretching it a bit there... :-)

Cameron

>
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> . | ,. w , "Some people are alive only because
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