OT:Another crackhead bites the dust

[Ext User(Jason James)]

On Sunday, February 12, 2012 2:51:24 PM UTC+11, Jeßus wrote:
> On Sun, 12 Feb 2012 11:19:14 +0800, "Clocky" > wrote:
>
> Can't believe how wide and far across the interweb this has spread
> already... it's everywhere.
>
> >Whitney Houston.
> >
> >Does that mean they can stop playing that ****ing song at every wedding?
>
> Brace yourself for hearing it constantly for the next 48 hours or so.
> Certainly not my idea of a great voice <shudder>.

Yet "The Big O" had similar accolades for his 3 octave range.... :-)

Jason

[Ext User(D Walford)]

On 14/02/2012 7:27 PM, Clocky wrote:
> Albm&ctd wrote:
>> In article<4f38b954$0$29992$c3e8da3$5496439d@news.astraweb.co m>,
>> dwalford@internode.on.net says...
>>> Wife and I went to a Farnham concert at the Palais last November, the
>>> bloke just keeps getting better with age, he took a while to warm up
>>> but his voice is still sensational.
>>>
>> YUK!
>
> Farnham has perfect pitch, naturally. You might not like what he sings, but
> he is a natural.
>
>
He is also a great entertainer, the show was also enhanced by a great
band and excellent back up singers.



Daryl

[Ext User(D Walford)]

On 14/02/2012 7:26 PM, Clocky wrote:
> D Walford wrote:
>> On 14/02/2012 10:01 AM, Noddy wrote:
>>
>>> Whatever the reason may be for her success I hope she's enjoying her
>>> time in the sun, as we're unlikely to hear anything of her in 5
>>> years time.
>>
>> I like her voice but I'm not all that keen on the songs she sings,
>> most of them are too bland IMO.
>>
>
> I consider her a K-tel singer, meaning that she reminds me of the countless
> rather ordinary people that used to be able to sing that would make it on a
> K-tel LP. They were neither remarkable or original, and Boyle fits that
> profile.
>
>
True but maybe if she had been "discovered" at a much younger age she
may have had time to develop her own style.
Her song choice is most likely dictated by her record company.


Daryl

[Ext User(Clocky)]

D Walford wrote:
> On 14/02/2012 7:26 PM, Clocky wrote:
>> D Walford wrote:
>>> On 14/02/2012 10:01 AM, Noddy wrote:
>>>
>>>> Whatever the reason may be for her success I hope she's enjoying
>>>> her time in the sun, as we're unlikely to hear anything of her in 5
>>>> years time.
>>>
>>> I like her voice but I'm not all that keen on the songs she sings,
>>> most of them are too bland IMO.
>>>
>>
>> I consider her a K-tel singer, meaning that she reminds me of the
>> countless rather ordinary people that used to be able to sing that
>> would make it on a K-tel LP. They were neither remarkable or
>> original, and Boyle fits that profile.
>>
>>
> True but maybe if she had been "discovered" at a much younger age she
> may have had time to develop her own style.
> Her song choice is most likely dictated by her record company.
>

Indeed, and her novelty will wear off (if it hasn't already) and she will be
forgotten.
In some ways it's probably a blessing that she wasn't discovered earlier as
I don't think she is playing with the full deck and the pressures of fame at
a young age would probably have ****ed her up completely.

[Ext User(Clocky)]

Noddy wrote:
> On 14/02/2012 1:28 PM, JONZ wrote:
>
>> He`s not a vocalist, he`s a screamalist and definately not "up
>> there"...
>
> You're entitled to your opinion, but I'd be guessing that you're
> unaware that when David Lee Roth left Van Halen Barnes was approached
> and asked if he'd like the lead vocalist's role?
>

According to Barnes, but his version of events is more self-promoting than
fact. He did audition, but Eddie didn't want him in the band and told him
they were only going to be doing ballads to put him off. That actually
sounds more likely than Barnes' version of events (which he reckons they
approached him twice and he knocked them back when they told him they would
be doing only ballads) as he doesn't suit Van Halen at all vocally, and why
would you ask a hard rocker like Barnes to join your band when you are going
to be playing ballads?
Doesn't add up.

> He declined incidentally.....
>

See above. As an aside, Van Halen's new album with DLR is very good if you
like their earlier hard edged stuff. Eddie is in jaw dropping form since his
hand surgery.

>> Instead, try, Robert Plant, Bruce Dickinson, Axl Rose, Ozzy
>> Osbourne and Pat Benatar (cant accuse me of sexism) just to name a
>> few of the best.
>
> Ozi Osborne? Jesus...... :)
>

Yeah that made me laugh... I mean seriously?

> Robert Plant has a *great* voice. On record that is. Live, he's
> absolutely ****ing pathetic. Just like Mick Jagger.
>

Bob Dylan live was crap in his heyday and he's gotten worse since then.
Unlistenable shit when he is having a good day.

> Still, that's one of the advantages of the studio. You can cut as many
> vocal tracks as you like to get one right and make the master :)

Yup. Dunno if you saw the performance of Pink Floyd at the Live 8 concert
event but despite looking like they really didn't want to be there they were
tight and sounded awesome. It's a shame that Roger Waters is such a ****wit.

[Ext User(D Walford)]

On 14/02/2012 9:40 PM, Clocky wrote:
> D Walford wrote:
>> On 14/02/2012 7:26 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>> D Walford wrote:
>>>> On 14/02/2012 10:01 AM, Noddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Whatever the reason may be for her success I hope she's enjoying
>>>>> her time in the sun, as we're unlikely to hear anything of her in 5
>>>>> years time.
>>>>
>>>> I like her voice but I'm not all that keen on the songs she sings,
>>>> most of them are too bland IMO.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I consider her a K-tel singer, meaning that she reminds me of the
>>> countless rather ordinary people that used to be able to sing that
>>> would make it on a K-tel LP. They were neither remarkable or
>>> original, and Boyle fits that profile.
>>>
>>>
>> True but maybe if she had been "discovered" at a much younger age she
>> may have had time to develop her own style.
>> Her song choice is most likely dictated by her record company.
>>
>
> Indeed, and her novelty will wear off (if it hasn't already) and she will be
> forgotten.
> In some ways it's probably a blessing that she wasn't discovered earlier as
> I don't think she is playing with the full deck and the pressures of fame at
> a young age would probably have ****ed her up completely.
>
>
I don't think she is all that bright but I think you are being a bit harsh.


Daryl

[Ext User(Noddy)]

On 14/02/2012 7:26 PM, Clocky wrote:

> I consider her a K-tel singer, meaning that she reminds me of the countless
> rather ordinary people that used to be able to sing that would make it on a
> K-tel LP. They were neither remarkable or original, and Boyle fits that
> profile.

I tend to agree.

I think we've been conditioned into accepting pretty average performers
as "talented" for so long now that when someone comes along who *can*
actually sing they get elevated to superstar status.



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Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

On 14/02/2012 10:22 PM, Clocky wrote:

> Yup. Dunno if you saw the performance of Pink Floyd at the Live 8 concert
> event but despite looking like they really didn't want to be there they were
> tight and sounded awesome. It's a shame that Roger Waters is such a ****wit.

They were brilliant, and yeah, Waters is a tool.



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Regards,
Noddy.

[Ext User(Noddy)]

On 14/02/2012 7:31 PM, Clocky wrote:

> He can't sing to save his life, but that doesn't matter in pub rock where
> stage presence and volume is more important. Barnes certainly had both with
> Chisel but he's ordinary as a solo performer.

He's had a couple of solo songs that haven't been bad, but generally I
tend to agree.

I think Chisel worked as a whole. Moss's guitar suited Barnes' voice &
visa versa.



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Noddy.

[Ext User(Jeßus)]

On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:22:25 +0800, "Clocky" <notgonn@happen.com>
wrote:

> It's a shame that Roger Waters is such a ****wit.


Yep, I could never take to that guy, his ego ****ed the band in the
end. But they had a great run through the 1970s, at least.

[Ext User(Jeßus)]

On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 09:33:21 +1100, Noddy <me@home.com> wrote:

>On 14/02/2012 7:31 AM, Jeßus wrote:
>
>> And technically good voices are hardly uncommon, or necessarily
>> interesting to listen to - it's how they use that voice that really
>> matters.
>
>Indeed.
>
>To be fair to Boyle (and the same could be said of Paul Potts, the
>similarly discovered "Opera singer") I think she can sing. I just don't
>think she has the vocal ability to match the hype.
>
>That seems to be the major problem these days. The whole media machine
>seems so hell bent on celebrating mediocrity that when someone genuinely
>talented comes along it goes into hyperdrive and makes them out to be
>God like when the reality is that for the most part they'd be lucky to
>hold an audience at a pub.

That's the problem with what is now our mainstream media, pretty much
the only thing that can 'rise' to the top on said mainstream media is
what they themselves create/manufacture/control... meaning lowest
common denominator mediocrity.

[Ext User(Jeßus)]

On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:12:46 +1100, JONZ <disco.v8@lotsafuel.com>
wrote:

>On 14/02/2012 5:05 PM, Jeßus wrote:
>> On Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:37:37 +1100, Noddy<me@home.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 14/02/2012 12:45 PM, JONZ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well, well....It`s the talking head, right on cue. Nothing to say, but
>>>> will spruik anyway.....
>>>
>>> Oh my God... The Ironing :)
>>
>> Assuming he /did/ do ironing, one can only hope centrelink phones him
>> while he's doing it. I'd almost pay to see that.
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>More gibberish from the Tassy drivel

Did you say something Cletus? Next time, try clearing your gob of junk
food before attempting to communicate.

[Ext User(Diesel Damo)]

On Feb 14, 7:18*pm, "Clocky" <notg...@happen.com> wrote:
> Diesel Damo wrote:
> > On Feb 14, 11:33 am, D Walford <dwalf...@internode.on.net> wrote:
>
> >> I don't anyone including Kylie thinks she is a great singer but IMO
> >> what she is is a great entertainer.
>
> > I don't doubt that she puts on a great show for her fans, but I'm just
> > talking about the audio aspect. The human voice is the greatest
> > musical instrument of them all, and to do this to it is like finding a
> > crystaline mountain stream untouched by man and washing a diesel sump
> > pan in it.
>
> > What can I say, I feel a tad strongly about it. :)
>
> I keep hearing that the human voice is the greatest instrument, but I don't
> agree - it's rather limited. It's a great instrument in itself, but IMO it
> only compliments other equally great sounding instruments.

Well if choir and/or chant doesn't do anything for you, then that's
understandable. But before you make that claim, one thing a lot of
people miss is the background music used in movies. Often when a
climax is being reached, or an intense emotional moment is unfolding,
this type of sound will be used and it really moves the listener/
viewer. A lot of the time people attribute this to the "great acting",
but it was the sound that really pulled you in and made you feel it.

Having said that, I'm not here to change everyone's mind, it's just
MHO.

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"veritas" wrote in message news:4f37c4ea$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

On 12/02/2012 10:54 PM, XR8 Sprintless wrote:
> On 12/02/2012 10:46 PM, D Walford wrote:
>
>>>
>> Easily avoidable, who or what is a "Vidgen"?
>>
> Some blond headed young bloke with a voice like a girl who won a
> deadbeat talent show last year.

....perhaps but.....
>

........who was considered good enough for Sony to sign him to a contract
before him actually winning the final of the Australia-wide competition.

His style is not my choice of music but he 'nailed' all of his
performances perfectly - on key with every note. Perfect intonation and
timing - he is a natural .

An exceptional talented artist!

He's overdue for a hormone attack - I truly hope he will be able retrain
his voice and continue to enjoy a great career as a singer.
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Yes I agree with you. Us oldies can probably remember a youngster from Young
Talent Time with Johnny Young named Jamie Redfern who had the most beautiful
voice.....that was until his hormones took control of his voice box and that
was it. Most have probably either never heard of him or even remember him.
Cheers
DAVO

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"veritas" wrote in message news:4f3856f6@dnews.tpgi.com.au...

On 13/02/2012 8:31 AM, Clocky wrote:
> veritas wrote:
>> On 12/02/2012 2:56 PM, Clocky wrote:
>>
>>>> How about Justin Bibwearer, or whatever his name is?
>>>> That would be AWESOME.
>>>
>>> He can take our own third rate clone Vidgen with him.
>>>
>>>
>> Jack Vidgen's singing style cannot be, in any way, said to be similar
>> to Justin Beiber's.
>
> It's meaningless fodder in a different style.
>
>

If one were to accept all of the 'knockers' here (self professed
experts) I will be hearing soon that the stage performances of 'Billy
Elliot', 'Vienna Boys Choir', 'Libera', 'Ronan Parke' are a load of shit
despite you knockers that are swimming against the tide of opinion of
literally millions of people around the world. Where are your support
numbers from the public and experts?

Well spotted guys - it as only too easy to impress people by knocking.
It is good only for the ego of the knockers to try to show people how
knowledgeable they are on many subjects! Oddly, it seems to be the same
lot of knockers every time.

I would have loved to have just 'some' of the talent these kids have.
Am I envious - yep! Do I knock down tall poppies because of it - nope -
I am not a neanderthal!

'Meaningless fodder' - Haaa, what does that mean - stop random-reading
the thesaurus.

OK guys, I am wearing my body armour - commence firing! :)
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Move over son, I'm with you but I don't need body armour for these knockers.

Cheers
DAVO

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"JONZ" wrote in message news:jhcgsf$pv7$1@dont-email.me...

On 13/02/2012 8:55 PM, Noddy wrote:
> On 13/02/2012 6:21 PM, JONZ wrote:
>
>> Agree with most, but Jimmy Barnes could not sing if his life depended on
>> it!!
>
> That depends on your definition of "singing", but most vocalists have
> their niche.
>
> As a crooner he'd suck, but as a hard rock singer he's up there with the
> best of them.
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He`s not a vocalist, he`s a screamalist and definately not "up
there"...Instead, try, Robert Plant, Bruce Dickinson, Axl Rose, Ozzy
Osbourne and Pat Benatar (cant accuse me of sexism) just to name a few
of the best.
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I agree to a point....he most certainly is a "screamalist" but he's an
entertainer and that makes any (possible) singing talent fade into
obscurity. His son (David Campbell) must get his vocal chords from his
ancestors......certainly not his fathers.
Cheers
DAVO

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"Clocky" wrote in message
news:4f38d75c$0$1561$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astrawe b.com...

<SNIP

Roy Orbison is timeless though, now that man could sing and he had a style
all his own.
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Roy Orbison's voice was/is one no one could ever match. Even when he spoke
it was beautiful. I would love to see a film made on his life story, just as
was done with many other "interesting" artists.
Cheers
DAVO

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"Noddy" wrote in message news:jhambe$i58$1@dont-email.me...

On 13/02/2012 2:34 PM, Feral wrote:

> Susan Boyle had *nothing* going for her ... but talent.
>
> One of your the *few*?

Susan Boyle owes her success to the media sensationalism surrounding her
"discovery" as she does to any genuine talent she may have.
Regards,
Noddy.
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Are you suggesting she can't sing?? Her success was mainly due to her
appearance and the "voice" that came from it. Had you only heard her voice
on the radio and never saw her, the success story for her just wouldn't have
happened.

DAVO

[Ext User(lindsay)]

On 15/02/2012 7:35 AM, joe@nothome.com wrote:

> He's overdue for a hormone attack - I truly hope he will be able retrain
> his voice and continue to enjoy a great career as a singer.
> ================================================== ================
> Yes I agree with you. Us oldies can probably remember a youngster from
> Young Talent Time with Johnny Young named Jamie Redfern who had the most
> beautiful voice.....that was until his hormones took control of his
> voice box and that was it.

I thought it was Liberace that took control of him...in more ways than
one..:)

Most have probably either never heard of him
> or even remember him.

Little white cloud.

> Cheers
> DAVO

[Ext User(Feral)]

On 15/02/2012 8:06 AM, joe@nothome.com wrote:
>
>
> "Clocky" wrote in message
> news:4f38d75c$0$1561$c3e8da3$76491128@news.astrawe b.com...
>
> <SNIP
>
> Roy Orbison is timeless though, now that man could sing and he had a style
> all his own.
> ================================================== =============================
>
> Roy Orbison's voice was/is one no one could ever match. Even when he
> spoke it was beautiful. I would love to see a film made on his life
> story, just as was done with many other "interesting" artists.
> Cheers

Did you see "Fastest Guitar In The West."?

Bloody woeful movie. A singer he was ... but as an actor .......

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