Nintaus query

[_]

Hi again,
Also wanted to ask, in case I go the Nintaus way... providing one has a
receiver that decodes DTS can you just plug the 9808 into that via the
optical connection and you will be able to get DTS sound? How much does an
optical lead cost btw?
Cheers again,
Bobby

[eltan]

You need to get an Amp or speaker that is DTS compatible. Otherwise its
output as AC3.

Optical lead cost around $30 for 2m

"_<<BB-AM>>_" <noemail> wrote in message
news:400d628f@news.alphalink.com.au...
> Hi again,
> Also wanted to ask, in case I go the Nintaus way... providing one has a
> receiver that decodes DTS can you just plug the 9808 into that via the
> optical connection and you will be able to get DTS sound? How much does an
> optical lead cost btw?
> Cheers again,
> Bobby
>
>
>

[[e²]]

Yes it will work :) And i forget how much, I think it would be under $30 for
a decent one...

--
http://www.esquared.tk


"_<<BB-AM>>_" <noemail> wrote in message
news:400d628f@news.alphalink.com.au...
> Hi again,
> Also wanted to ask, in case I go the Nintaus way... providing one has a
> receiver that decodes DTS can you just plug the 9808 into that via the
> optical connection and you will be able to get DTS sound? How much does an
> optical lead cost btw?
> Cheers again,
> Bobby
>
>
>

[Bruce]

"_<<BB-AM>>_" <noemail> wrote in message
news:400d628f@news.alphalink.com.au...
> Hi again,
> Also wanted to ask, in case I go the Nintaus way... providing one has a
> receiver that decodes DTS can you just plug the 9808 into that via the
> optical connection and you will be able to get DTS sound? YES

How much does an
> optical lead cost btw? less than $15

[pimpf]

On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:17:03 +1100, "_<<BB-AM>>_" <noemail> wrote:

>Also wanted to ask, in case I go the Nintaus way... providing one has a
>receiver that decodes DTS can you just plug the 9808 into that via the
>optical connection and you will be able to get DTS sound? How much does an
>optical lead cost btw?

The current model 9808 doesn't have an optical connection. It does
have a coaxial connection. Although you'll probably want to price a
half-decent audio coaxial cable instead if you're buying the Nintaus,
you can determine the pricing of a 'homebrand' optical cable from
either Jaycar's or DSE's sites. Prices generally head skyward from
there.

As for the Nintaus and DTS sound. The 9808 recently being remaindered
by JB HiFi for $89- doesn't bear the DTS logo nor is support for DTS
mentioned (quite specifically) either on the packaging or in the
manual. I have one but haven't tried to see if it actually supports
DTS as I use it as a secondary bedroom player where neither DTS nor DD
5.1 sound are primary requirements. Though I can't confirm it, from
perusal of another owner's report in another thread in this forum,
memory serves to inform that DTS soundtacks are actually playable with
DTS *endorsed* older models of the 9808 through the digital output
coax connection, assuming of course you have a DTS capable receiver to
process the output signal.

Truth is, and not wishing got get into a pissing contest, IME&O the
argument re DTS as a must have vs desirable requirement is largely
academic unless you have an acoustically close to perfect HT, better
than a commercially packaged "5.1 sound system", and action flicks are
your raison d'etre. Anyone fulfilling the first two criteria probably
won't be considering the Nintaus 9808 as their primary player, and 5.1
channel support be it DD or DTS is truly *adequate* for the latter,
sans perhaps boasting rights.

Despite its theoretical superiority, the resultant quality of any DTS
soundtrack at the coalface is IME heavily dependent upon its authoring
(bitrate and engineering) *and* playback equipment/room acoustics.
Personally, I don't really find it a major issue whether I listen to
the DTS (where available) or DD track for *most* films, though there
are some notable exceptions where the DTS track is audibly preferable
and arguably superior...and surprisingly, vice versa. In a perfect
world, DTS would be the must have or preferred/superior format.
Unfortunately we live in the real world compromised by commercial
realities which largely renders DD vs DTS a moot contest for all but
the exceptional few.

The 9808 is a *great* player *for the price*, and a respectable player
in its own right. Don't let the lack of DTS endorsement dissuade you
from buying it. You'd better be quick though. Last I looked, my local
JB HiFi had sold out.

PS: Although a rare and largely redundant feature in DVD players these
days, the Nintaus 9808 has an onboard DD 5.1 *processor*. Useful for
those with an older Dolby ProLogic receiver.

[_]

thanks for the response... much appreciated. now if anyone could comment on
the conia that'd be just dandy :)


"pimpf" <cvzcs@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004 04:17:03 +1100, "_<<BB-AM>>_" <noemail> wrote:
>
> >Also wanted to ask, in case I go the Nintaus way... providing one has a
> >receiver that decodes DTS can you just plug the 9808 into that via the
> >optical connection and you will be able to get DTS sound? How much does
an
> >optical lead cost btw?
>
> The current model 9808 doesn't have an optical connection. It does
> have a coaxial connection. Although you'll probably want to price a
> half-decent audio coaxial cable instead if you're buying the Nintaus,
> you can determine the pricing of a 'homebrand' optical cable from
> either Jaycar's or DSE's sites. Prices generally head skyward from
> there.
>
> As for the Nintaus and DTS sound. The 9808 recently being remaindered
> by JB HiFi for $89- doesn't bear the DTS logo nor is support for DTS
> mentioned (quite specifically) either on the packaging or in the
> manual. I have one but haven't tried to see if it actually supports
> DTS as I use it as a secondary bedroom player where neither DTS nor DD
> 5.1 sound are primary requirements. Though I can't confirm it, from
> perusal of another owner's report in another thread in this forum,
> memory serves to inform that DTS soundtacks are actually playable with
> DTS *endorsed* older models of the 9808 through the digital output
> coax connection, assuming of course you have a DTS capable receiver to
> process the output signal.
>
> Truth is, and not wishing got get into a pissing contest, IME&O the
> argument re DTS as a must have vs desirable requirement is largely
> academic unless you have an acoustically close to perfect HT, better
> than a commercially packaged "5.1 sound system", and action flicks are
> your raison d'etre. Anyone fulfilling the first two criteria probably
> won't be considering the Nintaus 9808 as their primary player, and 5.1
> channel support be it DD or DTS is truly *adequate* for the latter,
> sans perhaps boasting rights.
>
> Despite its theoretical superiority, the resultant quality of any DTS
> soundtrack at the coalface is IME heavily dependent upon its authoring
> (bitrate and engineering) *and* playback equipment/room acoustics.
> Personally, I don't really find it a major issue whether I listen to
> the DTS (where available) or DD track for *most* films, though there
> are some notable exceptions where the DTS track is audibly preferable
> and arguably superior...and surprisingly, vice versa. In a perfect
> world, DTS would be the must have or preferred/superior format.
> Unfortunately we live in the real world compromised by commercial
> realities which largely renders DD vs DTS a moot contest for all but
> the exceptional few.
>
> The 9808 is a *great* player *for the price*, and a respectable player
> in its own right. Don't let the lack of DTS endorsement dissuade you
> from buying it. You'd better be quick though. Last I looked, my local
> JB HiFi had sold out.
>
> PS: Although a rare and largely redundant feature in DVD players these
> days, the Nintaus 9808 has an onboard DD 5.1 *processor*. Useful for
> those with an older Dolby ProLogic receiver.

[Geoff]

> The current model 9808 doesn't have an optical connection. It does
> have a coaxial connection. Although you'll probably want to price a
>snip

Just to add a SHORT comment here:

The Australian model 9808 outputs Dolby Digital AND dts via digital coax.
No arguments. Well at least the two I bought from JB (in July and November
last year) do. Here are some pictures
http://members.iinet.net.au/~rutlidge/N9808.html

It does not have 5.1 analog outputs.

It does have an onboard Dolby Digital decoder and outputs downmixed analog
stereo audio (which sounds OK if you only have stereo or pro-logic).

It does NOT have onboard dts decoder. Repeat - no dts decoder, it just
sends glorious dts to your dts-equipped HT receiver or processor.

It DOES HAVE PROGRESSIVE COMPONENT video (576p/50Hz for PAL and 480p/60Hz
for NTSC).

It plays movies on DVD-R, +R and -RW perfectly. I haven't tried +RW.
DVD-RAM won't play.

Complaints? The fluro display is too bright (I have a bit of cellophane
stuck over it). Also, the power LED is too bright. The remote is average.
The manual is hilarious!

I think these are bloody good machines and brilliant value for 90 or 100
bucks. I've never owned a Conia, but I know what I'm getting with Nintaus.
Their quality is as good as any. A few months ago I happily donated my $350
Panasonic RV32 to my parents and have used the Nintaus ever since (heavily).

Geoff

[Geoff]

"Geoff" <lionshattrick@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> > The current model 9808 doesn't have an optical connection. It does
> > have a coaxial connection. Although you'll probably want to price a
> >snip
>
> Just to add a SHORT comment here:
>
> The Australian model 9808 outputs Dolby Digital AND dts via digital coax.
> No arguments. Well at least the two I bought from JB (in July and November
> last year) do. Here are some pictures
> http://members.iinet.net.au/~rutlidge/N9808.html
>
> It does not have 5.1 analog outputs.
>
> It does have an onboard Dolby Digital decoder and outputs downmixed analog
> stereo audio (which sounds OK if you only have stereo or pro-logic).
>
> It does NOT have onboard dts decoder. Repeat - no dts decoder, it just
> sends glorious dts to your dts-equipped HT receiver or processor.
>
> It DOES HAVE PROGRESSIVE COMPONENT video (576p/50Hz for PAL and 480p/60Hz
> for NTSC).
>
> It plays movies on DVD-R, +R and -RW perfectly. I haven't tried +RW.
> DVD-RAM won't play.
>
> Complaints? The fluro display is too bright (I have a bit of cellophane
> stuck over it). Also, the power LED is too bright. The remote is
average.
> The manual is hilarious!
>
> I think these are bloody good machines and brilliant value for 90 or 100
> bucks. I've never owned a Conia, but I know what I'm getting with
Nintaus.
> Their quality is as good as any. A few months ago I happily donated my
$350
> Panasonic RV32 to my parents and have used the Nintaus ever since
(heavily).
>
> Geoff

Further to the above post, if you look at the photos in the above web link,
you will see the dts symbol in the closeup of the display. Mine doesn't
have a dts logo on the front panel either, but it definately outputs dts via
digital coax.

Geoff