Why no 9 or 10?

[SteveyWonder]

I have just moved to Lane Cove and none of the channel 9 or 10 digital
channel's appear. The analogue signals are fine, no grain or ghosting and
channel 7, SBS and ABC digital are fine! Does channel 7 not allow 9 and 10
on their transmitter?

Steve

[JJ]

In article <401c3426$0$1734$5a62ac22@freenews.iinet.net.au>,
anonymous@junkyard.com says...
> I have just moved to Lane Cove and none of the channel 9 or 10 digital
> channel's appear. The analogue signals are fine, no grain or ghosting and
> channel 7, SBS and ABC digital are fine! Does channel 7 not allow 9 and 10
> on their transmitter?
>
> Steve
>
Are you in a block of units? If so I would say the body corporate have
a filter on the antenna to block out, what at the time was, unused
channels in order to stop interference in multi-output situations.

[tony_h]

SteveyWonder wrote:
> I have just moved to Lane Cove and none of the channel 9 or 10 digital
> channel's appear. The analogue signals are fine, no grain or ghosting
> and channel 7, SBS and ABC digital are fine! Does channel 7 not allow
> 9 and 10 on their transmitter?
>
> Steve

Huh? I am in Marsfield (not too far away from Lane Cove I suppose) and get
all the stations on digital no probs. Are you in a bit of a hole? Have
you tried getting UHF pointed towards the Northern Beaches repeater (if your
visibility to Artarmon is blocked)? I don't think it is to do with your
antenna, as 9 digital is on VHF8, smack in the middle of 7 & 10 analogue,
and 10 digital is VHF11, smack in the middle of ABC Digital (VHF12) and 10
analogue.

[Logan C]

Are you by chance in an apartment complex or using a shared antenna?
If so, then the chances are the digital channels for the networks you
mention are not being retransmitted to the socket inside your
residence. Check with your strata/body corporate and make sure that
your network is digitally capable. It's not an expensive upgrade and
due to the fact that analogue network is rumoured to be decommissioned
in 2007 it's an inevitable change that needs to happen.

"SteveyWonder" <anonymous@junkyard.com> wrote in message news:<401c3426$0$1734$5a62ac22@freenews.iinet.net.au>...
> I have just moved to Lane Cove and none of the channel 9 or 10 digital
> channel's appear. The analogue signals are fine, no grain or ghosting and
> channel 7, SBS and ABC digital are fine! Does channel 7 not allow 9 and 10
> on their transmitter?
>
> Steve

[Richard Jary]

Logan C wrote:

>Are you by chance in an apartment complex or using a shared antenna?
>If so, then the chances are the digital channels for the networks you
>mention are not being retransmitted to the socket inside your
>residence. Check with your strata/body corporate and make sure that
>your network is digitally capable. It's not an expensive upgrade and
>due to the fact that analogue network is rumoured to be decommissioned
>in 2007 it's an inevitable change that needs to happen.
>
>
Yes - a lot of blocks of units need to feed a very large number of
outlets from one antenna. So they have a booster for each channel that
retransmits the particular signal for each channel. Not always on it's
original channel either, where my ex used to live in Gosford they were
using some VHF outputs for things that were local UHF.

Even if the digital signal isn't being filtered, by the time it goes to
maybe 20 or more outlets if it isn't boosted you won't get it. I've
heard of people getting better results with rabbit ears than the unit
antenna system.

Or if you are lucky and on the right side of the block, put an antenna
on the balcony :-)

Richard

[SteveyWonder]

Yes I am in a block of units but the analogue signal for all channels is as
clear as day. All the 9 and 10 channels register when I do a channel setup
but I get a screen saying check your antenna when I select the channels, the
bottom information bar does show the correct channel, i.e."NINE Digital",
"TEN DIGITAL" etc, hence the reason I think they are being blocked. The
complex I am in is only 3 years old and the common feed has Foxtel Satelite.
I have also tried a tri-beam power indoor areal which I used at my last
residance in Waverton which did pick up all digital channels and it also
gives an imaculate analogue signal but again the 9 and 10 channels do not
appear.

What I do find interesting is after the setup I see "6 services have been
installed on the Seven Network". I would have thought that if there had been
any problem I would not have got all 6 Nine channels. I also notice that I
seem to have more HD channels than I had at Waverton (even though they show
a blank screen when I select them).

Hang on.... could this be Foxtel blocking the channels? I dont have a
decoder but maybe the complex downfeeds the Foxtel free-to-air channels
which may exclude 9 and 10? anyone?

Steve

"Logan C" <logan@thelogan.net> wrote in message
news:494380be.0402010028.74d8aea9@posting.google.c om...
> Are you by chance in an apartment complex or using a shared antenna?
> If so, then the chances are the digital channels for the networks you
> mention are not being retransmitted to the socket inside your
> residence. Check with your strata/body corporate and make sure that
> your network is digitally capable. It's not an expensive upgrade and
> due to the fact that analogue network is rumoured to be decommissioned
> in 2007 it's an inevitable change that needs to happen.
>
> "SteveyWonder" <anonymous@junkyard.com> wrote in message
news:<401c3426$0$1734$5a62ac22@freenews.iinet.net.au>...
> > I have just moved to Lane Cove and none of the channel 9 or 10 digital
> > channel's appear. The analogue signals are fine, no grain or ghosting
and
> > channel 7, SBS and ABC digital are fine! Does channel 7 not allow 9 and
10
> > on their transmitter?
> >
> > Steve

[tony_h]

SteveyWonder wrote:

> What I do find interesting is after the setup I see "6 services have
> been installed on the Seven Network". I would have thought that if
> there had been any problem I would not have got all 6 Nine channels.
> I also notice that I seem to have more HD channels than I had at
> Waverton (even though they show a blank screen when I select them).
That is because each frequency has a number of channels muxed in. They
share the same video (and audio) and are probably there for the occassions
that the TV station may want to send multi-channel (I think 7 showed score
boards for the Rugby world cup on them).
They have got nothing to do with reception. If you see one of them, you get
all of them. Each broadcaster sends multiple channels, each broadcaster
has a unique frequency, your receptions problems are frequency related.
Regards

[Richard Jary]

SteveyWonder wrote:

>Yes I am in a block of units but the analogue signal for all channels is as
>clear as day. All the 9 and 10 channels register when I do a channel setup
>but I get a screen saying check your antenna when I select the channels, the
>bottom information bar does show the correct channel, i.e."NINE Digital",
>"TEN DIGITAL" etc, hence the reason I think they are being blocked.
>
That doesn't sound right. Does your STB have a function to check signal
strength and BER? If so what does it show, compared to ones that work?

Richard

[SteveyWonder]

"Richard Jary" <jary@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:bvo2s8$tpdnm$2@ID-71140.news.uni-berlin.de...
> SteveyWonder wrote:
>
> >Yes I am in a block of units but the analogue signal for all channels is
as
> >clear as day. All the 9 and 10 channels register when I do a channel
setup
> >but I get a screen saying check your antenna when I select the channels,
the
> >bottom information bar does show the correct channel, i.e."NINE Digital",
> >"TEN DIGITAL" etc, hence the reason I think they are being blocked.
> >
> That doesn't sound right. Does your STB have a function to check signal
> strength and BER? If so what does it show, compared to ones that work?

Unfortunately not - I have another indoor arial which I tried tonight. The 7
channel signal was far worse than 9 on the analogue feed and I tried another
digital channel search. Again all 6 of the Seven network came up but still
none of the Nine or Ten networks. I really want the Ten network but even if
I subscribe to Foxtel Satelite, I believe I wont be able to get it. Looks
like I am stuck with analogue for 9 and 10...

Steve
> Richard
>