10 The Resort aspect stuffup

[Seagull]

Don't know if this went national but ATV10's digital screening of The
Resort was in 14:9 with small bars on the top and bottom of the screen
and a large bar on the right hand side.

It was screened in true letterboxed 16:9 on analog - which could be
perfectly watched on a widescreen set.

[BenOne©]

Seagull wrote:
> Don't know if this went national but ATV10's digital screening of The
> Resort was in 14:9 with small bars on the top and bottom of the screen
> and a large bar on the right hand side.
>
> It was screened in true letterboxed 16:9 on analog - which could be
> perfectly watched on a widescreen set.

Clever.

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Ben Thomas
Melbourne, Australia

[David Z]

No, it wasn't 14:9 on digital. But yes, they stuffed up.

On a widescreen set, 14:9 appears with bars *only* on the sides. (like 4:3,
but much thinner).

Last night it had bars on *ALL* sides. It was still 16:9, it just didn't
fill the screen.

"Seagull" <dav259@csiro.au> wrote in message
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> Don't know if this went national but ATV10's digital screening of The
> Resort was in 14:9 with small bars on the top and bottom of the screen
> and a large bar on the right hand side.
>
> It was screened in true letterboxed 16:9 on analog - which could be
> perfectly watched on a widescreen set.

[jason887]

No, it wasn't 14:9 on digital. But yes, they stuffed up.

On a widescreen set, 14:9 appears with bars *only* on the sides. (like 4:3,
but much thinner).

Last night it had bars on *ALL* sides. It was still 16:9, it just didn't
fill the screen.

"Seagull" <dav259@csiro.au> wrote in message
news:11cc9bef.0402111534.42e178df@posting.google.c om...
> Don't know if this went national but ATV10's digital screening of The
> Resort was in 14:9 with small bars on the top and bottom of the screen
> and a large bar on the right hand side.
>
> It was screened in true letterboxed 16:9 on analog - which could be
> perfectly watched on a widescreen set.
they stuffed up on that one. i was told by a guy that works at channel 9 that channels will broadcast some programs in 16:9 on analog TV if they know that some graphics and text will be cut off when cropped into 4:3. This is just a guess but they probably had trouble converting it as they might have originally sent the program in 4:3 letterbox but would've had trouble zooming in to fit it into 16:9 digital widescreen.

[Stephen Neal]

David Z wrote:
> No, it wasn't 14:9 on digital. But yes, they stuffed up.
>
> On a widescreen set, 14:9 appears with bars *only* on the sides.
> (like 4:3, but much thinner).

That surely depends on the "flavour" of 14:9 used...

4:3 material can be converted to a 16:9 raster using a 14:9 pillarbox (aka
14P16) - which is what you refer to.

However 16:9 material can be converted to a 4:3 (aka 12:9) raster using a
14:9 letterbox (aka 14L12) ratio.... HOWEVER this 14L12 transfer can be
treated as a 4:3 full-frame (aka 12F12) source and then converted to 12P16
for transmission on DTV.

This is what is known as windowbox/postage-stamp/floating.... In other words
there are black bars all around with a tiny picture in the middle.

This is either a cock-up - or a compromise because material is not
text/graphics safe - or was transferred to 4:3 prior to 16:9 being an
option.

(This being the observation of a UK based observer who works in the telly
industry - and has had to cope with 16:9 since 1997)

Steve

>
> Last night it had bars on *ALL* sides. It was still 16:9, it just
> didn't fill the screen.
>
> "Seagull" <dav259@csiro.au> wrote in message
> news:11cc9bef.0402111534.42e178df@posting.google.c om...
>> Don't know if this went national but ATV10's digital screening of The
>> Resort was in 14:9 with small bars on the top and bottom of the
>> screen and a large bar on the right hand side.
>>
>> It was screened in true letterboxed 16:9 on analog - which could be
>> perfectly watched on a widescreen set.