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jokiin
28-02-2004, 11:49 PM
Anyway of turning the standby orange 'OFF' off competely? It's very bright in the bedroom when sleeping.

Not that I am aware of, why they can't just use a small led to signify standby like the rest of the world does I'll never know, the Chinese sure have some strange ideas sometimes (like the default of having the counter on) I tend to just power them off rather than using standby.

V205
29-02-2004, 12:31 PM
I wonder why the counter for mpeg4 playback is on in most chipset by default, especially when the counters are off for VCD, SVCD, DVD..etc.


Not that I am aware of, why they can't just use a small led to signify standby like the rest of the world does I'll never know, the Chinese sure have some strange ideas sometimes (like the default of having the counter on) I tend to just power them off rather than using standby.

fat_boy
03-03-2004, 08:29 AM
Great mini-review...

So this is currently $199 @ Strathfield Car Radio / Brisbane Car Sound? :dD

??????????

jokiin
03-03-2004, 09:06 AM
??????????

no, they are $249

fat_boy
03-03-2004, 02:11 PM
Why are people able to buy it for $199 according to some in this thread?

jokiin
03-03-2004, 02:28 PM
Why are people able to buy it for $199 according to some in this thread?

There has been one sold at that price, I don't know the circumstances that lead to him getting it at that price but the price is $249

maxxed
08-03-2004, 07:06 AM
does this unit suffer from the mtk standard problem of x2 rewinding being super fast?

V205
08-03-2004, 04:18 PM
I can confirm that yes, it rewinds too fast at x2 compared to foward at x2.

I also have issues playing with some recent 4CD (divx5, wouldn't play at all for some reason) and 3CD (xvid, plays but video stutters) release of some Returning-King movie.....

Anyone else got either one of those version above and tried it on XMS-888?



does this unit suffer from the mtk standard problem of x2 rewinding being super fast?

DJ iFusion
20-03-2004, 09:32 AM
T'was me that got it for $199 - I just asked how much it was, the guy said "RRP $299 but we're selling it for $199".

No haggling or anything, Strathfield Car Radios near Taren Point in Sydney.

Another mate was able to get his local Strathfield to match that as well just by telling them.

Well after a few weeks use the player is in the bedroom now, even with prog. scan its basic DVD playback isn't as good as my Toshiba SD-5200 but its the best bedroom player ever and has played all media and formats I've thrown at it so far.

It actually looks a lot better on my 68cm Trinitron than it does on my plasma screen anyway so I'm still very happy with it.

I just wish that timer would go to hell!

V205
20-03-2004, 06:50 PM
Anyone annoyance is the in Zoom mode... the zoom status doesn't go away..


T'was me that got it for $199 - I just asked how much it was, the guy said "RRP $299 but we're selling it for $199".

No haggling or anything, Strathfield Car Radios near Taren Point in Sydney.

Another mate was able to get his local Strathfield to match that as well just by telling them.

Well after a few weeks use the player is in the bedroom now, even with prog. scan its basic DVD playback isn't as good as my Toshiba SD-5200 but its the best bedroom player ever and has played all media and formats I've thrown at it so far.

It actually looks a lot better on my 68cm Trinitron than it does on my plasma screen anyway so I'm still very happy with it.

I just wish that timer would go to hell!

V205
20-03-2004, 06:56 PM
I also have a XMS-888 now and it's able to those disc fine. I can confirm the playback smoothness is better on the XMS-888 than the Trio-DX628. But the DX-628 has more features and better build quality.





I can confirm that yes, it rewinds too fast at x2 compared to foward at x2.

I also have issues playing with some recent 4CD (divx5, wouldn't play at all for some reason) and 3CD (xvid, plays but video stutters) release of some Returning-King movie.....

Anyone else got either one of those version above and tried it on XMS-888?

subwars
23-03-2004, 10:30 PM
hi there i was wondering if any of you have tried any .ogm files in the player i do all my recent movies as divx 511 with original ac3 audio mixed in .ogm container would the player be fine in playing such a file?

triouser
14-04-2004, 10:46 PM
Have had my DX628 for about a fortnight, and thought I'd chuck in my 2c.

Firstly build quality of the unit is quite good, even the strange transparent blue tray is actually quite solid. The remote on the other hand is the cheapest remote I've ever seen, it's annoying to use and very un resposive. It appears that the design feature of a curved mirror in front on the ir receiver on the unit drastically impedes the signal.

The feature set is the best I've seen on a DVD player, the zoom works fine and the 32x fast forward and rewind works great, except on some movies you can only rewind at 32x, sorry didn't pay attention to what type.

I found the playback quality to be satisfactory although I do not have an XMS-888 to compare. It seems to handle any bitrate of video or audio. I've tried a wide variety of resolutions and they are all letterboxed correctly without any stretching. I can confirm it plays avi, DIVX3, DIVX4, DIVX5, XVID, 3IVX, MPEG1, MPEG2, MP3, AAC. Video files with wma audio play the video only, and I can't get it to play industry standard .mp4 files at all.
It does not like movies that show heavy motion artifacts when played on my PC, I don't know if these files are corrupt or not, but they play with tons of dropped frames.
From what I've read in the forums the XMS-888 gives you file info, but the DX-628 just has either and AVI file icon or an A/V icon but no more information about what codecs or bitrate it is.

On my 21" broadcast monitor the interlaced and progressive modes look pretty much identical.

Problems
The onscreen timecode display turns itself on everytime you play an avi file. You just have to press the display button twice to make it go away, but it is annoying.
I found any file with wma audio will play the video only with no sound!!
It can be a bit picky with disks, but mainly with older re-writeable disks. I've had no problems with new DVD-R, CD-R, and good quality DVD-RW and CD-RW.

What I'd like to see in the next firmware (if it ever happens)
Get rid of the timecode display
Smoother playback of currupted files
wma audio support with video
Playback of other mpeg4 based codecs, like .mp4, sorenson video, windows media MPEG4
File info in the right hand window of the browser displaying video/audio codec, framerate, resolution and bitrate.

I got it for $199, all I had to do was ask if they could do it for that price.

All up I'm very happy with it, it was dirt cheap, the output quality is very good, my only gripe is the issue with wma audio in video.

jokiin
14-04-2004, 11:33 PM
What I'd like to see in the next firmware (if it ever happens)
Get rid of the timecode display
Smoother playback of currupted files
wma audio support with video
Playback of other mpeg4 based codecs, like .mp4, sorenson video, windows media MPEG4
File info in the right hand window of the browser displaying video/audio codec, framerate, resolution and bitrate.



If you want to find out about the firmware, or better yet offer your suggestions, go here and send off your suggestions http://www.triocorp.com.au/Contact.aspx

the guys at trio are always happy to get customer feedback, and they do listen

Scaramouche
16-04-2004, 10:51 AM
Ive had mine and iam not satisfied. These are some of the bad points i have noticed.

- No support for Matroska
Matroska is a Awesome container, allowing subtitles, chapters, multiple soundtracks, multiple video streams etc in 1 single file. It also has less overhead than AVI, better seeking & better error recovery. Unfortunetly manufacturers will probably never implement it, & stick to AVI which is a shocking format

- Poor media error handling.
Ive got AVI's on some shit CD's, which show up yellow sectors in nero Scandisk (Damaged sectors). The Trio-628 simply halts playback & freezes when it hits some of them. Its so bad on some discs you cannot even fast forward past this point.

Now this could be due to the limitations of the AVI container or

- Unable to deal with high Resolution / High bitrate spikes
On a super high quality Xvid encode of Star Trek Nemesis the video often freezes while sound keeps on going.

Overall, i regret buying it (that extends to ANY standalone player). Iam going to sell it and build a HTPC (Home Theatre PC), which can resolve all the short-comings of the Trio-628 and of any standalone.

Only problem with HTPC - WAF Wife Acceptance Factor!!!!

jokiin
16-04-2004, 02:14 PM
Ive had mine and iam not satisfied. These are some of the bad points i have noticed.

- No support for Matroska


- Poor media error handling.
Ive got AVI's on some sh*t CD's, which show up yellow sectors in nero Scandisk (Damaged sectors). The Trio-628 simply halts playback & freezes when it hits some of them. Its so bad on some discs you cannot even fast forward past this point.



This player or any other that I have heard of have claimed to support Matroska, no point getting upset that the player doesn't support this format when they make no claim to be able to. Likewise the player not being able to play a disc with damaged sectors is to be expected. You did metion some high bitrate files that the player was having trouble with, this is the sort of info that should be forwarded on to the guys at Trio, it may be something that they are not aware of and may possibly be able to resolve if they are given some info.

I'm sure a HTPC can give a better result, but at a higher cost (and the WAF problem) and a more cumbersome interface and asthetics.

bluestar67
17-04-2004, 02:21 PM
I have tested several times. This player seems to stutter, pause and freeze with various fast movement scene with Xvid RC3 encoded movie. Not exactly sure what is the cause... low hardware/memory overhead ? need update firmware. ? or simply not compatible codec...
* this problem also happen to wndow media player with lesser extend..however, upgrading to latest codec seems to fix it

However, I re-encode the movie to latest Dvix... it seems to play ok....!!

davidf
17-04-2004, 05:12 PM
I have tested several times. This player seems to stutter, pause and freeze with various fast movement scene with Xvid RC3 encoded movie. Not exactly sure what is the cause... low hardware/memory overhead ? need update firmware. ? or simply not compatible codec...
* this problem also happen to wndow media player with lesser extend..however, upgrading to latest codec seems to fix it

However, I re-encode the movie to latest Dvix... it seems to play ok....!!

Could be a gmc/qpel issue I don't have a 628 but from what I have read about the chipset although it supports qpel and gmc it only has partial support for these encoder parameters.

slider17
17-04-2004, 05:32 PM
i had a similar problem with a movie i downloaded off the net.
i believe it was encoded in Xvid rc-3 or 4. it pauses after just 5secs, sound continues for awhile, then the whole movie stops and goes back to the menu.
works fine on mhy pc though.

i think its about time a firmware update is released.

slider17

andw
17-04-2004, 05:54 PM
V205 has reported previously that the DX-628 has problems with the jitters on large motion scenes. He sent me a couple of small samples that played fine on the xms-888.
I believe he now has both players. (see end of page 2 this thread and top of this page (3)).
Perhaps it is just the way it handles the large data amounts required for high motion, perhaps it is just a matter of them refining the way it is done in newer firmware.