Craig wrote:
> What utter rubbish.
no.
> The 4:3 analog feed is derived from the 16:9 tape. And there is *only* a
> 16:9 tape, no separate 4:3 tape for digital. The 4:3 signal usually has
> *less* image area than 16:9, never more.*
I never said a 4:3 has more image than 16:9 - where did I ever say that !
Some 4:3 - perhaps most are derived from 16:9 I am not sure, but and this
is the POINT I was making,
I have on occasion seen a 4:3 on analog - some US dramas full screen
looks fine no comprssion or whatever - normal 4:3 format, not things
like csi or more or less up to date programs like that, but earlier ones which
on analog have classic full screen 4:3 format - however the simultaneous
HD or SD transmission has the top and bottom cropped and the picture
stretched *just a little* to make up the difference - in other words the
4:3 analog looks like its zoomed in on and stretched just a *little* to
make up the difference so it looks like a passable WS base format,
its QUITE obvious when you have two sets side by side, in my case a
76cm analog next to a 37" hd capable digital lcd widescreen,
And I do know the difference between receiver stretching a 4:3 to make
it fit - though I've never heard it called overscan, my LCD is set to 1:1
on all reception the monitor, in that mode, does not stretch, some ads
are in 4:3 and have vertical bars on each side, some other ads are in
WS but smaller - this is for compatability with 4:3 so it looks like WS
*on those sets*. I dont ever change the monitor setting to other
than 1:1 unless I am watching a DVD with 2.35:1 then I 'might'
zoom in - but not often, in any case hats on a different input and
the 1:1 for the monitor is fixed for that component video input.
So I confirm the point that some 4:3 analogs are zoomed in and
stretched by a small amount so they appear as ws in sd or hd format.
I'm sure its getting less but its not cricket now is it - it also looks
a bit grainey for those same transmissions, whereas bona-fide ws
from programs like CSI are better than DVD.
> I think you're getting confused with receiver overscan, which is a problem
> of individual sets. As for stretching, this would be a fault of the
> individual receiver as well.
Its not a fault or a problem - its a *setting*.
pp
>
>
> Craig.
>
> *The only exception would be a movie shot on Super 35mm film where the HD
> has an aspect of 2.35:1, SD has a full frame 16:9, and analog PAL 4:3 has a
> 14:9 letterbox. The original Super 35mm frame is 4:3, with the 2.35:1 and
> 16:9 extracted out of the larger 4:3 frame, but with
> director/cinematographer approval of that framing.
>
> "Peter_purple" <purple@203.0.178.192> wrote in message
> news:40569A3E.D63C2496@203.0.178.192...
> > and you should be aware some so called ws programs were in 4:3 format but
> 9
> > has up converted them and cropped them to fit the ws format,
> >
> > ive been looking at this from two tvs from time to time and some dramas
> are
> > fine on 4:3 in analog but on ws they have the top and bottom cropped a
> little
> > with also some horizontal stretching, not much to notice but it does
> happen and
> > this is the same on hd and sd !
> >
> > bit cute if you ask me - makes hd look the same as sd on some us dramas
> and
> > occasional local content,
> >
> > pp
> >
> > BenOne© wrote:
> >
> > > Anthony C wrote:
> > > > so like what's with all the nine ads in postage stamp mode? the nine
> tv
> > > > shows are in WS like they should be...
> > > >
> > > > Anthony C
> > >
> > > That's the format the advertisers make the ads in.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Ben Thomas
> > >
> > > Apparently less than 10% of accidents are caused by drivers exceeding
> the speed
> > > limit.
> >
> > --
> > that is because,
> >
> > peter purple proclaims
> >
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> >
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--
that is because,
peter purple proclaims
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