marble for my subwoofer, in Melbourne?

[Freedom]

I have heard that if you place a square of marble on your subwoofer, it can
greatly improve the effect for films because somehow marble bounces the
sounds. I use subwoofer Paradigm PDR10

Where can i find a square (offcut) of marble about 50cm by 60cm in
Melbourne, real cheap ? I mean one place wanted $100 for it, and i think its
too much - its gotta be much much cheaper than that!

If anyone has ideas, please post here

[pasey25]

"Freedom" <nospambastards@goaway.com> wrote in message
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> I have heard that if you place a square of marble on your subwoofer, it
can
> greatly improve the effect for films because somehow marble bounces the
> sounds. I use subwoofer Paradigm PDR10
>
> Where can i find a square (offcut) of marble about 50cm by 60cm in
> Melbourne, real cheap ? I mean one place wanted $100 for it, and i think
its
> too much - its gotta be much much cheaper than that!
>
> If anyone has ideas, please post here
>
>

try a stonemason

[Trevor Wilson]

"Freedom" <nospambastards@goaway.com> wrote in message
news:2kidfhF2n5meU1@uni-berlin.de...
> I have heard that if you place a square of marble on your subwoofer, it
can
> greatly improve the effect for films because somehow marble bounces the
> sounds. I use subwoofer Paradigm PDR10
>
> Where can i find a square (offcut) of marble about 50cm by 60cm in
> Melbourne, real cheap ? I mean one place wanted $100 for it, and i think
its
> too much - its gotta be much much cheaper than that!
>
> If anyone has ideas, please post here

**There are only two reasons why a subwoofer could possibly benefit from
such a move (AFAICT):

* The sub needs to be more closely coupled to the floor. In which case, a
nice lump of concrete will do just fine. It may not be purty, but it will
cost a whole bunch less than marble.

* The sub requires added enclosure damping. In which case, you need a better
sub.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au

[Mark Harriss]

Freedom wrote:

> I have heard that if you place a square of marble on your subwoofer, it
> can greatly improve the effect for films because somehow marble bounces
> the sounds. I use subwoofer Paradigm PDR10
>
> Where can i find a square (offcut) of marble about 50cm by 60cm in
> Melbourne, real cheap ? I mean one place wanted $100 for it, and i think
> its too much - its gotta be much much cheaper than that!
>
> If anyone has ideas, please post here



Tried the local cemetery?....sorry just kidding

[BenOne©]

Freedom wrote:

> I have heard that if you place a square of marble on your subwoofer, it can
> greatly improve the effect for films because somehow marble bounces the
> sounds. I use subwoofer Paradigm PDR10
>
> Where can i find a square (offcut) of marble about 50cm by 60cm in
> Melbourne, real cheap ? I mean one place wanted $100 for it, and i think its
> too much - its gotta be much much cheaper than that!
>
> If anyone has ideas, please post here
>
>

Considering we put in about 10 square metres of marble for $3000 laid, I think
$100 for a quarter of a square metre is in the ballpark. This was 3 years ago so
I could be wrong, as it was just one small part of having a whole house built.

--
Ben Thomas
Opinions, conclusions, and other information in this message that do not
relate to the official business of my firm shall be understood as neither
given nor endorsed by it.

[Clevo]

"Freedom" <nospambastards@goaway.com> wrote in message
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> I have heard that if you place a square of marble on your subwoofer, it
can
> greatly improve the effect for films because somehow marble bounces the
> sounds. I use subwoofer Paradigm PDR10
>
> Where can i find a square (offcut) of marble about 50cm by 60cm in
> Melbourne, real cheap ? I mean one place wanted $100 for it, and i think
its
> too much - its gotta be much much cheaper than that!
>
> If anyone has ideas, please post here

**There are only two reasons why a subwoofer could possibly benefit from
such a move (AFAICT):

* The sub needs to be more closely coupled to the floor. In which case, a
nice lump of concrete will do just fine. It may not be purty, but it will
cost a whole bunch less than marble.

* The sub requires added enclosure damping. In which case, you need a better
sub.


--
Trevor Wilson
www.rageaudio.com.au


Trevor, a few years ago, well quite a few actually, spiking was considered a good way to couple speakers to the floor. four spikes were screwed to the base of the speaker and these then poked throught layers of carpet, underlay etc and allowed the speaker to sit firmly on the floor itself. Is this still an option or was it a fad. If coupling is the problem then a few nails will be cheaper than a slab of marble.

Cheers

[Gadgets]

Toorak construction sites! :) Cost you a six pack!

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[Freedom]

Gadgets, do you know anybody at those sites?
Want to help me out ? I'll pay you something nominal.. or buy a few beers ?

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> Toorak construction sites! :) Cost you a six pack!
>
> --
> Cheers, Jason (remove ... to reply)
> Online DVD Rental Comparison:
> http://gadgetaus.com/dvdrental.html

[Trevor Wilson]

"Freedom" <nospambastards@goaway.com> wrote in message
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> Gadgets, do you know anybody at those sites?
> Want to help me out ? I'll pay you something nominal.. or buy a few beers
?

**Go down to your local paver shop and buy a large, concrete paver? Much
cheaper.


--
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www.rageaudio.com.au

[TT]

"Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> "Freedom" <nospambastards@goaway.com> wrote in message
> news:2kk4q5F38d8dU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > Gadgets, do you know anybody at those sites?
> > Want to help me out ? I'll pay you something nominal.. or buy a few
beers
> ?
>
> **Go down to your local paver shop and buy a large, concrete paver? Much
> cheaper.
>
>
> --
> Trevor Wilson
> www.rageaudio.com.au
>
>
Sorry Trevor NFG - absolutely no pose value at all. Shame MJ is no longer
here I am sure he would tell you marble is sonically superior to drab ol'
concrete anytime ;-)


Regards TT

[Phil Allison]

"TT" <

> Shame MJ is no longer here .....


** Oh - but he is.




............ Phil

[Phil Allison]

"Freedom" <

> I have heard that if you place a square of marble on your subwoofer,



** What was the name of the JBL speaker system that had a white marble top
?????

I always thought it would be good for making chocolate fudge drops on.





............ Phil

[Dale]

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>
> "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
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> >
> > "Freedom" <nospambastards@goaway.com> wrote in message
> > news:2kk4q5F38d8dU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > Gadgets, do you know anybody at those sites?
> > > Want to help me out ? I'll pay you something nominal.. or buy a few
> beers
> > ?
> >
> > **Go down to your local paver shop and buy a large, concrete paver? Much
> > cheaper.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Trevor Wilson
> > www.rageaudio.com.au
> >
> >
> Sorry Trevor NFG - absolutely no pose value at all. Shame MJ is no longer
> here I am sure he would tell you marble is sonically superior to drab ol'
> concrete anytime ;-)
>
>
> Regards TT


Marble is sonically superior to drab ol' concrete.

There you go TT:-)


Dale


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[TT]

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:
: ** Oh - but he is.
:
:
:
:
: ........... Phil
:
Here as in - Lurking, incognito, spirit or something else?

TT

[Freedom]

In many buildings throughout history, marble has been used because of its
acoustic properties.
In times of ancient Rome for example. I think they did it for a very good
reason!
concrete slabs are cheaper but they arent marble!

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> > "Trevor Wilson" <trevor@SPAMBLOCKrageaudio.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:40e4f15d$1@news.comindico.com.au...
> > >
> > > "Freedom" <nospambastards@goaway.com> wrote in message
> > > news:2kk4q5F38d8dU1@uni-berlin.de...
> > > > Gadgets, do you know anybody at those sites?
> > > > Want to help me out ? I'll pay you something nominal.. or buy a few
> > beers
> > > ?
> > >
> > > **Go down to your local paver shop and buy a large, concrete paver?
Much
> > > cheaper.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Trevor Wilson
> > > www.rageaudio.com.au
> > >
> > >
> > Sorry Trevor NFG - absolutely no pose value at all. Shame MJ is no
longer
> > here I am sure he would tell you marble is sonically superior to drab
ol'
> > concrete anytime ;-)
> >
> >
> > Regards TT
>
>
> Marble is sonically superior to drab ol' concrete.
>
> There you go TT:-)
>
>
> Dale
>
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[Gadgets]

Sorry don't know where, just a thought. I don't know why marble in
particular... how is it much diff. to a lump of concrete when you are
sitting it on top of wood anyway? Maybe the idea is just the weight and
solidity it would add? Could also try demolition companies who strip
buildings before demolishing...

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[Phil Allison]

"TT"
"Phil Allison"


> Shame MJ is no longer here .....

>> ** Oh - but he is.

>Here as in - Lurking, incognito, spirit or something else?
>
> TT


** Baaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh...............

Baaaahhhhh, baaaaahhhhh, baaahhhhh ..........

The sheep are telling you.




...... Phil

[Patrick Turner]

Freedom wrote:

> In many buildings throughout history, marble has been used because of its
> acoustic properties.
> In times of ancient Rome for example. I think they did it for a very good
> reason!
> concrete slabs are cheaper but they arent marble!

Marble was used in Rome mainly because it was there for the taking in vast
quantities,
and available in a range of fabulous colours, and was a premium building
material easily worked by the slaves,
who used it to make fine buildings, some of which have survived the ages.
The commoners of Rome had apartments, often gerry built, which occasionally
burned down or collapsed,
and these were the equivalent of brick veneer houses in Cabramatta, which also
occasionaly
burn down, or get eaten out by termites and silver fish behind the flimsy
plasterboard.
In 2,000 years, not much of Cabramatta will be recognisable,
and possibly all the fine old buildings, such as the Railway Station, will have
been demolished.

But Romans made great use of architecture to reinforce the sound in
ampitheatres,
since amplifiers were some way off in the future. The Greeks before them were
masters at this.
They simply spent their dinas on stone and curved walls, rather than on today's
shitehouse
accoustics and deafening PA systems. People's hearing was better then than now
because there was less machine made or rock star made noise.
Never underestimate the cleverness of our ancestors, with the little they had
to work with.

Nevertheless I imagine actors in a stage play would have needed a stout voice
to be heard
across a crowd of a thousand souls on sunday arvo entertainments.
The Coleseum on a saturday arvo gladiator match with all of its accompanying
acts, blood and din must have been the place to hang out for a vapid Roman into
such
crap....

Meanwhile, the use of marble for a subwoofer enclosure is an excellent choice
of material.
The man who has it all should give in immediately to the temptation for a
little marble in his villa,
in fitting resonance with the Mazzaratti in the garage, and yacht moored at the
jetty in front of the
lawn by the water. Trevor Wilson, with his concrete bloomin slabs would be
quite out of place,
and I don't care how many friendly concretors he knows in Hurstville.
Maybe some of them would insist on terrazzo slabs, and have the
sub woofer look like a 1950's pub toilet partition.

The beauty of a marble/stone/terrazzo/concrete woofer enclosure lies in
the sonic inertness of such materials, and its what you don't hear that counts.

Carefully sawn and polished, glued together with silicone,
it ain't likely to have any sound of its own.
And the drinks won't rattle off the top.

But modifications after installation are near impossible, and woe to the man
who installs a marble sub in the lounge without her indoors' approval first.

Tall narrow slender subs made of such stuff can have the secondary
effect of limiting family expansion, or culling the occasional pet,
since if one ever falls over, it kills what/whoever it hits, smashes to peices,

and perhaps continues on down through the floor to
cause the occasional bit of collateral to a tennant or precious jalopy.
Builders seem to always leave a calling card when they see guys swearing
as they unload a stone subwoofer.

Large ones can serve the dual purpose of a daily resting place for vampires,
tucked up comfy on the black polyester wool filling.

Patrick Turner.

[jrobbo]

On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 00:09:54 +1000, Patrick Turner
<info@turneraudio.com.au> wrote:

>in fitting resonance with the Mazzaratti in the garage

That would be "Maserati"

Regards

John

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[Fred at home]

"Patrick Turner" <info@turneraudio.com.au> wrote in message
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>
>
> Freedom wrote:
>
> > In many buildings throughout history, marble has been used because of
its
> > acoustic properties.
> > In times of ancient Rome for example. I think they did it for a very
good
> > reason!
> > concrete slabs are cheaper but they arent marble!
>
> Marble was used in Rome mainly because it was there for the taking in vast
> quantities,
> and available in a range of fabulous colours, and was a premium building
> material easily worked by the slaves,
> who used it to make fine buildings, some of which have survived the ages.
> The commoners of Rome had apartments, often gerry built, which
occasionally
> burned down or collapsed,
> and these were the equivalent of brick veneer houses in Cabramatta, which
also
> occasionaly
> burn down, or get eaten out by termites and silver fish behind the flimsy
> plasterboard.
> In 2,000 years, not much of Cabramatta will be recognisable,
> and possibly all the fine old buildings, such as the Railway Station, will
have
> been demolished.
>
> But Romans made great use of architecture to reinforce the sound in
> ampitheatres,
> since amplifiers were some way off in the future. The Greeks before them
were
> masters at this.
> They simply spent their dinas on stone and curved walls, rather than on
today's
> shitehouse
> accoustics and deafening PA systems. People's hearing was better then than
now
> because there was less machine made or rock star made noise.
> Never underestimate the cleverness of our ancestors, with the little they
had
> to work with.
>
> Nevertheless I imagine actors in a stage play would have needed a stout
voice
> to be heard
> across a crowd of a thousand souls on sunday arvo entertainments.
> The Coleseum on a saturday arvo gladiator match with all of its
accompanying
> acts, blood and din must have been the place to hang out for a vapid Roman
into
> such
> crap....
>
> Meanwhile, the use of marble for a subwoofer enclosure is an excellent
choice
> of material.
> The man who has it all should give in immediately to the temptation for a
> little marble in his villa,
> in fitting resonance with the Mazzaratti in the garage, and yacht moored
at the
> jetty in front of the
> lawn by the water. Trevor Wilson, with his concrete bloomin slabs would be
> quite out of place,
> and I don't care how many friendly concretors he knows in Hurstville.
> Maybe some of them would insist on terrazzo slabs, and have the
> sub woofer look like a 1950's pub toilet partition.
>
> The beauty of a marble/stone/terrazzo/concrete woofer enclosure lies in
> the sonic inertness of such materials, and its what you don't hear that
counts.
>
> Carefully sawn and polished, glued together with silicone,
> it ain't likely to have any sound of its own.
> And the drinks won't rattle off the top.
>
> But modifications after installation are near impossible, and woe to the
man
> who installs a marble sub in the lounge without her indoors' approval
first.
>
> Tall narrow slender subs made of such stuff can have the secondary
> effect of limiting family expansion, or culling the occasional pet,
> since if one ever falls over, it kills what/whoever it hits, smashes to
peices,
>
> and perhaps continues on down through the floor to
> cause the occasional bit of collateral to a tennant or precious jalopy.
> Builders seem to always leave a calling card when they see guys swearing
> as they unload a stone subwoofer.
>
> Large ones can serve the dual purpose of a daily resting place for
vampires,
> tucked up comfy on the black polyester wool filling.
>
> Patrick Turner.
>

That's brilliant. You may have missed your true vocation in life (unless you
are employed as a writer).