Australian speakers?

[MTT]

Hi, people
Just wondering if anyone could post the links of australian speakers
manufactories, reviews, compare side by side v.v.
and

- Which is the best australian all round speakers?
- Which is the best australian details speakers?

cheers,

[Michael Garrott]

Some major ones are:

www.vaf.com.au
www.sonique.com.au
www.whatmough.com.au
www.krix.com.au

Some others might also be worth checking out:

www.whise.com.au (supposedly excellent subwoofers)
www.equinoxaudio.com.au

[TT]

"MTT" <ngaminh@exemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> Hi, people
> Just wondering if anyone could post the links of australian speakers
> manufactories, reviews, compare side by side v.v.
> and
>
> - Which is the best australian all round speakers?
> - Which is the best australian details speakers?
>
> cheers,
>
If you are serious about this and you aren't just out trolling around why
not say what you want them for, how many you are actually interested in and
what your budget is.

There is absolutely no point in discussing with you the pros and cons of
$7K-$10k stereo speakers when you budget is possibly $250 for 6 including
sub. BTW the converse is also true ;-)

So how about narrowing it down just a tad and actually make it look like you
are seeking some relevant information?

Regards TT

[Matt McLeod]

In article <Michael.Garrott.1arw0b@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au>,
Michael Garrott <Michael.Garrott.1arw0b@no-mx.forums.eyo.com.au> wrote:
>Some major ones are:

There's also Aaron, who would seem to be at:

http://members.westnet.com.au/betetec/

I have a pair of smaller bookcase-sized speakers that I bought about
five years ago, and I've been very happy with them. Not sure what
model they are.

Matt

[MTT]

My budget around $7.5 - $8 K for 5.1 speakers system with good front for
stereo.
room = 30 sqm
music taste pop, country, sometimes dance, sometimes classical.
cheers

>
> If you are serious about this and you aren't just out trolling around why
> not say what you want them for, how many you are actually interested in
and
> what your budget is.
>
> There is absolutely no point in discussing with you the pros and cons of
> $7K-$10k stereo speakers when you budget is possibly $250 for 6 including
> sub. BTW the converse is also true ;-)
>
> So how about narrowing it down just a tad and actually make it look like
you
> are seeking some relevant information?
>
> Regards TT
>
>
>

[MDHJWH]

"MTT" <ngaminh@exemail.com.au> wrote in message news:<411880a3$0$31701$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au>...
> Hi, people
> Just wondering if anyone could post the links of australian speakers
> manufactories, reviews, compare side by side v.v.
> and
>
> - Which is the best australian all round speakers?
> - Which is the best australian details speakers?
>

Please tell us what it is you mean by 'details speakers'?

[TT]

"MTT" <ngaminh@exemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> My budget around $7.5 - $8 K for 5.1 speakers system with good front for
> stereo.
> room = 30 sqm
> music taste pop, country, sometimes dance, sometimes classical.
> cheers
>
A good healthy budget with which you "should" end up with some decent gear.

I might sound a little pedantic here but you specified a "5.1 system" yet
you *do not* mention Home Theatre (HT) in your description. Does this mean
you are into multi-channel audio DVD-A/SACD or are you into HT but didn't
mention it or do you think that 6 speakers will help with your stereo
listening?

If it is 6 channel audio you need 5 equal size full range speakers whereas
HT you can get away with smallish rears and centre.

With a decent room size you are going to need some very good amplification
to drive all this so have you got it under control? If not no matter how
well you choose speakers the amps will let them down.

As an example Vaf do surround packages
http://www.vaf.com.au/new_home.htm?catalog/sctn_title.htm&catalog/pmp_menu.htm&catalog/pmp_title.htm&catalog/pmp.htm
(and watch out for word wrap) if you look at the I-66/91 package you will
see it is dead on you budget.

Or you mix and match depending on where your preferences lie
http://www.equinoxaudio.com.au/products/speakers/index.php

Choose 2 x Aphelions as main $2800
2 x Solstice as rears $1550
1 x Zenith as Front centre $1400
1 x Equator sub $1550

Which is about $7200 (without the haggling yet).

Regardless you need to contact the manufactures and get their
recommendations. I would prefer to sink more into mains and less on rears
if you were going to keep it all for a while. If not stick with a package
like this save for some "killer" mains and move the fronts to the rear -
upgrade path for the future.

Hopefully this will give you something to "chew on for a while".

Regards TT

PS With room size you need to include ceiling height as well not just an
area. Sound proliferates in 3 dimensions not just 2 ;-)

[Francis Xavier Holden]

On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:15:24 +1000, "MTT" <ngaminh@exemail.com.au>
wrote:
>Hi, people
>Just wondering if anyone could post the links of australian speakers
>manufactories, reviews, compare side by side v.v.


Funny I should just pop back in after a prolonged absence:




Loudspeakers influence the sound of your system more than any other
single component and should make up the biggest single expenditure in
your system. Aside from second hand items (which can be ok) you will
get best value from Australian made speakers and even better value
from a good tested kit you can assemble yourself.

AUSTRALIAN SPEAKERS ARE RECOMENDED AS A BEST BUY because (all other
things being equal):

Australian manufacturers should be equal to any knowledge or materials
in the world.

Speakers are heavy AND bulky to import completely made up. By buying
Australian you save considerable shipping / transport costs.

Cabinet assembly is relatively labour intensive so you can save money
by buying a local Completely Knocked Down (CKD) Kit and assembling it
yourself.

KITS
Most kits are easier than an IKEA table to assemble. The only bit that
can be difficult and require some basic and easily learnt skill is
veneering. Or better still get someone who knows about veneering to do
it.


AUSTRALIAN SPEAKERS
Incomplete list of Australian speaker makers, assemblers or cabinet
makers with websites as at 14 April 2004

Some of these are available as parts to be assembled as kits.

Others may care to flesh this out with Australian speaker mobs I have
missed or who do not have a web presence.

www.acousticconcepts.com.au/
www.aksaonline.com/
www.ambiencespeakers.com.au/
www.audiosoundlabs.com.au
www.duntech.com.au
www.electrostaticspeakers.com/
www.eraudio.com.au/
www.asm.com.au
www.equinoxaudio.com.au
www.krix.com.au
www.legendspeakers.com.au
www.theloudspeakerkit.com/
www.noteperfect.com.au/
www.orpheusaudio.com.au
www.osbornloudspeakers.com.au
www.perigee.com.au
www.revolutionloudspeakers.com.au/
www.spot.com.au/aaron
www.sonique.com.au
www.subsonic.com.au
www.vaf.com.au
www.wescomponents.com/SSS/
www.whatmough.com.au/
www.whise.com.au/



http://users.tpg.com.au/users/gradds/Argos%20Loudspeakers.asp
http://users.chariot.net.au/~pennington/
http://users.gravity.net.au/sonicart/loudspeakers.htm
http://users.chariot.net.au/~vsound/vsound/
www.caliph.net.au/~panda/bocchtech/bocchinoaudio/bocchaudshort.htm

...
F X Holden

[MTT]

"MDHJWH" <mdhjwh@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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> "MTT" <ngaminh@exemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> > Hi, people
> > Just wondering if anyone could post the links of australian speakers
> > manufactories, reviews, compare side by side v.v.
> > and
> >
> > - Which is the best australian all round speakers?
> > - Which is the best australian details speakers?
> >
>
> Please tell us what it is you mean by 'details speakers'?

i meant speakers for detail sound (jazz, classical .. focus on detail)
some of Jamo E series, B&W, linn ... for this taste of music
cheers

[MTT]

> A good healthy budget with which you "should" end up with some decent
gear.
>
> I might sound a little pedantic here but you specified a "5.1 system" yet
> you *do not* mention Home Theatre (HT) in your description. Does this
mean
> you are into multi-channel audio DVD-A/SACD or are you into HT but didn't
> mention it or do you think that 6 speakers will help with your stereo
> listening?

Oh, i meant 5.1 HT

>
> If it is 6 channel audio you need 5 equal size full range speakers whereas
> HT you can get away with smallish rears and centre.
>
> With a decent room size you are going to need some very good amplification
> to drive all this so have you got it under control? If not no matter how
> well you choose speakers the amps will let them down.

will add up to 5k for power amp

>
> As an example Vaf do surround packages
>
http://www.vaf.com.au/new_home.htm?catalog/sctn_title.htm&catalog/pmp_menu.htm&catalog/pmp_title.htm&catalog/pmp.htm
> (and watch out for word wrap) if you look at the I-66/91 package you will
> see it is dead on you budget.
>
> Or you mix and match depending on where your preferences lie
> http://www.equinoxaudio.com.au/products/speakers/index.php
>
> Choose 2 x Aphelions as main $2800
> 2 x Solstice as rears $1550
> 1 x Zenith as Front centre $1400
> 1 x Equator sub $1550
>
> Which is about $7200 (without the haggling yet).
>
> Regardless you need to contact the manufactures and get their
> recommendations. I would prefer to sink more into mains and less on rears
> if you were going to keep it all for a while. If not stick with a package
> like this save for some "killer" mains and move the fronts to the rear -
> upgrade path for the future.
>
> Hopefully this will give you something to "chew on for a while".
>
> Regards TT
>
> PS With room size you need to include ceiling height as well not just an
> area. Sound proliferates in 3 dimensions not just 2 ;-)
>

ceiling height = 3.6 m

[Robby]

"MTT" <ngaminh@exemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> Hi, people
> Just wondering if anyone could post the links of australian speakers
> manufactories, reviews, compare side by side v.v.
> and
>
> - Which is the best australian all round speakers?
> - Which is the best australian details speakers?
>
> cheers,
>
> For my input I would like to recommend what I believe to be the best
"price for performance" speakers and they are manufactured in South
Australia.
I chose to buy them in kit form & I can attest to the fact that they are
super easy to construct, they look no different than the factory assembled
units, & sound no different either.
They have a new floor stander, around 1.2m, very similar to their DC-X model
and it interesting has dual tweeters.
I have ordered a set of these to replace my DC-Xs.
They have a warrantee even on 'self assembled' units and their service is
excellent.
Sure, I'm pushing the VAFs & always have due to my original statement,
"price for perormance"
Robby

[TT]

:
: ceiling height = 3.6 m
:
*3.6m* Do you live in a Church? That's 12'6" high!

Seriously now you will also need to think about room acoustics for
this shape/size room. It would be a shame to get all this nice new
gear and have the room let you down.

As far as buying amplification goes you should be looking at a high
end receiver such as Marantz, Denon, Yamaha, Onkyo or be guided by the
speaker manufacturer on what he would recommend.

FX has supplied all the locals so what you have to do now is short
list some products and get out and listen to the gear and make your
*own* decision.

Buying speakers is a bit like getting married "Very easy to say I do
and then *very* expensive to get rid of *if* you make the wrong
choice." BTW this also includes a home demo before commitment as well
;-)

Regards TT

[Robby]

"TT" <swat@swat.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> :
> : ceiling height = 3.6 m
> :
> *3.6m* Do you live in a Church? That's 12'6" high!
>
> Seriously now you will also need to think about room acoustics for
> this shape/size room. It would be a shame to get all this nice new
> gear and have the room let you down.
>
> As far as buying amplification goes you should be looking at a high
> end receiver such as Marantz, Denon, Yamaha, Onkyo or be guided by the
> speaker manufacturer on what he would recommend.
>
> FX has supplied all the locals so what you have to do now is short
> list some products and get out and listen to the gear and make your
> *own* decision.
>
> Buying speakers is a bit like getting married "Very easy to say I do
> and then *very* expensive to get rid of *if* you make the wrong
> choice." BTW this also includes a home demo before commitment as well
> ;-)
>
> Regards TT
>
> My son has ceilings in his 'old style' home, not church, with 4.6 ceilings
in suburban Adelaide. Not an unusual high what-so-ever!
Robby

[Steve Batt]

"Robby" <ijrobby@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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>
> "MTT" <ngaminh@exemail.com.au> wrote in message
>
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> > Hi, people
> > Just wondering if anyone could post the links of australian speakers
> > manufactories, reviews, compare side by side v.v.
> > and
> >
> > - Which is the best australian all round speakers?
> > - Which is the best australian details speakers?
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > For my input I would like to recommend what I believe to be the best
> "price for performance" speakers and they are manufactured in South
> Australia.
> I chose to buy them in kit form & I can attest to the fact that they are
> super easy to construct, they look no different than the factory assembled
> units, & sound no different either.
> They have a new floor stander, around 1.2m, very similar to their DC-X
model
> and it interesting has dual tweeters.
> I have ordered a set of these to replace my DC-Xs.
> They have a warrantee even on 'self assembled' units and their service is
> excellent.
> Sure, I'm pushing the VAFs & always have due to my original statement,
> "price for perormance"
> Robby
>
>
Robby, change of subject slightly.

Do you have a sub woofer ?
Was thinking of the krix seismix3, but as you like vaf so much, was
wondering if you had one of theirs ?
Am in Adelaide too.

Steve

[MDHJWH]

"Steve Batt" <s_j_batt@bid.net.au> wrote in message news:<g9lSc.49277$K53.38155@news-server.bigpond.net.au>...
>> Robby, change of subject slightly.
>
> Do you have a sub woofer ?
> Was thinking of the krix seismix3, but as you like vaf so much, was
> wondering if you had one of theirs ?
> Am in Adelaide too.

Have a listen to Whise subs & if you are flush listen to the Velodyne DD range.

[Robby]

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>
> "Robby" <ijrobby@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
> news:YHeSc.45461$K53.15557@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >
> > "MTT" <ngaminh@exemail.com.au> wrote in message
> >
>
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> > > Hi, people
> > > Just wondering if anyone could post the links of australian speakers
> > > manufactories, reviews, compare side by side v.v.
> > > and
> > >
> > > - Which is the best australian all round speakers?
> > > - Which is the best australian details speakers?
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > >
> > > For my input I would like to recommend what I believe to be the best
> > "price for performance" speakers and they are manufactured in South
> > Australia.
> > I chose to buy them in kit form & I can attest to the fact that they are
> > super easy to construct, they look no different than the factory
assembled
> > units, & sound no different either.
> > They have a new floor stander, around 1.2m, very similar to their DC-X
> model
> > and it interesting has dual tweeters.
> > I have ordered a set of these to replace my DC-Xs.
> > They have a warrantee even on 'self assembled' units and their service
is
> > excellent.
> > Sure, I'm pushing the VAFs & always have due to my original statement,
> > "price for perormance"
> > Robby
> >
> >
> Robby, change of subject slightly.
>
> Do you have a sub woofer ?
> Was thinking of the krix seismix3, but as you like vaf so much, was
> wondering if you had one of theirs ?
> Am in Adelaide too.
>
> Steve
>
> Steve,
Yes I do have a VAF sub, the LFE-07.
I have a room 17' by 26', (sorry, not sure what this is in
metrics----shows my age!!), and have found this to be ample.
A great movie to trial it with is U57, the depth charging of the sub
is fantastic.
I have heard some DEEP subs however it's realism I want not overdone
special effects.
Robby

[TT]

: > Steve,
: Yes I do have a VAF sub, the LFE-07.
: I have a room 17' by 26', (sorry, not sure what this is in
: metrics----shows my age!!), and have found this to be ample.
: A great movie to trial it with is U57, the depth charging of
the sub
: is fantastic.
: I have heard some DEEP subs however it's realism I want not
overdone
: special effects.
: Robby




Sorry in advance but this is just too priceless not to have a giggle
at.

Quote: "A great movie to trial it with is U57, the depth charging of
the sub
: is fantastic"

Now are we talking about the U257 here or the LFE-07. Some may say
depth charging a Vaf product is a fine idea - but I wouldn't ;-)

And further. "I have heard some DEEP subs ...."

There are spy agencies that will pay for that technology ;-) The US
Navy has spent billions on Sub technology to make them very quiet when
deep. Isn't it the motto of the US Nuke Subs "Run silent, run deep."?

Regards TT :-))

PS Yes I do know what you really meant and do take it in good humour
:-))

[Robby]

"TT" <swat@swat.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> : > Steve,
> : Yes I do have a VAF sub, the LFE-07.
> : I have a room 17' by 26', (sorry, not sure what this is in
> : metrics----shows my age!!), and have found this to be ample.
> : A great movie to trial it with is U57, the depth charging of
> the sub
> : is fantastic.
> : I have heard some DEEP subs however it's realism I want not
> overdone
> : special effects.
> : Robby
>
>
>
>
> Sorry in advance but this is just too priceless not to have a giggle
> at.
>
> Quote: "A great movie to trial it with is U57, the depth charging of
> the sub
> : is fantastic"
>
> Now are we talking about the U257 here or the LFE-07. Some may say
> depth charging a Vaf product is a fine idea - but I wouldn't ;-)
>
> And further. "I have heard some DEEP subs ...."
>
> There are spy agencies that will pay for that technology ;-) The US
> Navy has spent billions on Sub technology to make them very quiet when
> deep. Isn't it the motto of the US Nuke Subs "Run silent, run deep."?
>
> Regards TT :-))
>
> PS Yes I do know what you really meant and do take it in good humour
> :-))
>
>
>
> 'How low can you go" Boy did I ask for that lot!!!!
Robby

[st3ph3nm]

"MTT" <ngaminh@exemail.com.au> wrote in message news:<411931ee$0$31717$61c65585@un-2park-reader-01.sydney.pipenetworks.com.au>...
> >
> > Please tell us what it is you mean by 'details speakers'?
>
> i meant speakers for detail sound (jazz, classical .. focus on detail)
> some of Jamo E series, B&W, linn ... for this taste of music
> cheers

I haven't listened to the speakers that they do in your $ range, but
when I went shopping for speakers, I couldn't find anything that
compared favourably to the Legend Acoustic Joeys that I ended up
buying. Crystal clear silk dome tweeters that aren't anywhere near as
harsh as some other Australian speakers in the upper registers (for
example, Krix - which had superb detail, but not much else).
Definitely worth a listen.
Their website:

www.legendspeakers.com.au

Cheers,
Steve

[MTT]

have heard legend kantu from CAV, beautiful bass, good mid and treble but
less detail and quite lack of imaging.


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> "MTT" <ngaminh@exemail.com.au> wrote in message
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> > >
> > > Please tell us what it is you mean by 'details speakers'?
> >
> > i meant speakers for detail sound (jazz, classical .. focus on detail)
> > some of Jamo E series, B&W, linn ... for this taste of music
> > cheers
>
> I haven't listened to the speakers that they do in your $ range, but
> when I went shopping for speakers, I couldn't find anything that
> compared favourably to the Legend Acoustic Joeys that I ended up
> buying. Crystal clear silk dome tweeters that aren't anywhere near as
> harsh as some other Australian speakers in the upper registers (for
> example, Krix - which had superb detail, but not much else).
> Definitely worth a listen.
> Their website:
>
> www.legendspeakers.com.au
>
> Cheers,
> Steve