Digital Rights Management

[rjeeves33]

Hi

I've just ordered a DTR6000AU PVR to timeshift and record digital TV to the internal hard Disk. While surfing the Web I came across a few articles discussing DRM (Digital Rights Management). Although they were US based articles they claim that broadcasters can include a signal in the digital stream that will prohibit recording? :-( I don't like the sound of this. Does anyone know if this type of system is planned in Australia. It seems the law contains reference to "Fair Use" which VHS Video Recorders are allowed. Anyone have any more info on this?

Cheers

Rob

[tcith]

rjeeves33 wrote:

> Hi
>
> I've just ordered a DTR6000AU PVR to timeshift and record digital TV to
> the internal hard Disk. While surfing the Web I came across a few
> articles discussing DRM (Digital Rights Management). Although they
> were US based articles they claim that broadcasters can include a
> signal in the digital stream that will prohibit recording? :-( I don't
> like the sound of this. Does anyone know if this type of system is
> planned in Australia. It seems the law contains reference to "Fair
> Use" which VHS Video Recorders are deemed. Anyone have any more info
> on this?
>
> Cheers
>
> Rob
>
>
Macrovision - It's used on pretty much all DVD discs (to prevent you
recording them to tape) and it's on some Pay TV channels (Movie box
office and other pay per view events)

There are many devices that bypass this allowing them to be recording
the thing with macrovision is that the device doing the recording has to
have macrovision installed to detect and therefore disable the ability
to record

both my DVD recorder and my VHS video recorder have macrovision disabled
via a "hack" that disables this "feature" - not that I use it - I just
turn everything off on such devoces - like region encoding etc

[Chris Mayer]

rjeeves33 wrote:

> Hi
>
> I've just ordered a DTR6000AU PVR to timeshift and record digital TV to
> the internal hard Disk. While surfing the Web I came across a few
> articles discussing DRM (Digital Rights Management). Although they
> were US based articles they claim that broadcasters can include a
> signal in the digital stream that will prohibit recording? :-( I don't
> like the sound of this. Does anyone know if this type of system is
> planned in Australia. It seems the law contains reference to "Fair
> Use" which VHS Video Recorders are deemed. Anyone have any more info
> on this?

There is no such 'Fair Use' provision in Australian law. Recording TV
shows using a VCR is currently illegal, as would recording them to a DVD
recorder be.

[Nicholas Buenk]

"Chris Mayer" <chris@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> rjeeves33 wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> I've just ordered a DTR6000AU PVR to timeshift and record digital TV to
>> the internal hard Disk. While surfing the Web I came across a few
>> articles discussing DRM (Digital Rights Management). Although they
>> were US based articles they claim that broadcasters can include a
>> signal in the digital stream that will prohibit recording? :-( I don't
>> like the sound of this. Does anyone know if this type of system is
>> planned in Australia. It seems the law contains reference to "Fair
>> Use" which VHS Video Recorders are deemed. Anyone have any more info
>> on this?
>
> There is no such 'Fair Use' provision in Australian law. Recording TV
> shows using a VCR is currently illegal, as would recording them to a DVD
> recorder be.

Not good.

[Anthony Horan]

On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 18:10:10 +1000, tcith wrote:

> rjeeves33 wrote:
>
>> I've just ordered a DTR6000AU PVR to timeshift and record digital TV to
>> the internal hard Disk. While surfing the Web I came across a few
>> articles discussing DRM (Digital Rights Management). Although they
>> were US based articles they claim that broadcasters can include a
>> signal in the digital stream that will prohibit recording? :-(
>
> Macrovision - It's used on pretty much all DVD discs (to prevent you
> recording them to tape) and it's on some Pay TV channels (Movie box
> office and other pay per view events)

Macrovision's not what's being planned here. It's a copy-prohibit flag in
the digital stream.

http://www.drmwatch.com/legal/article.php/3105301

> There are many devices that bypass this allowing them to be recording
> the thing with macrovision is that the device doing the recording has to
> have macrovision installed to detect and therefore disable the ability
> to record

Wrong. Macrovision relies on the automatic gain control in VHS VCRs to
prevent recording. You can still make a recording if you insist, but it
won't look especially good :)


- Anthony