Canon 1Ds Mk II

[[BnH]]

Yep .. the party is over for Nikon camp.
Canon will release a 16mpx system very soon =)

http://www.eos-d-slr.net/1ds_mark2.html

[David J. Littleboy]

"[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote in message
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> Yep .. the party is over for Nikon camp.
> Canon will release a 16mpx system very soon =)
>
> http://www.eos-d-slr.net/1ds_mark2.html

That site is clearly flaky (they say that that they can't respond to any
questions and the information may disappear in a couple of days). But the
spec sheet doesn't look obviously faked, to my naive eye, anyway.

16.7 MP

Release in late November, 4 fps for 32 JPEG/11 RAW, no eye-control AF
selector, built-in AF assist strobe, RGB histograms, both CF and SD, support
for big drives, etc. etc. etc.

Other than the 16.7MP, I didn't see anything that surprised.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan

[Des Perado]

"[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote in message
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> Yep .. the party is over for Nikon camp.
> Canon will release a 16mpx system very soon =)
>
> http://www.eos-d-slr.net/1ds_mark2.html
>
>
I find this most unlikely, given the recent release of the 20D.

[Bart van der Wolf]

"David J. Littleboy" <davidjl@gol.com> wrote in message
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SNIP
> Other than the 16.7MP, I didn't see anything that surprised.

What's that part about 140,000 Yen (USD1,275)? Is it a new wireless
flash transmitter?

Bart

[usenet@imagenoir.com]

Kibo informs me that "Des Perado" <des@per.ado> stated that:
>"[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote in message
>news:414ecc2e$0$24396$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Yep .. the party is over for Nikon camp.
>> Canon will release a 16mpx system very soon =)
>>
>> http://www.eos-d-slr.net/1ds_mark2.html
>
>I find this most unlikely, given the recent release of the 20D.

If that brochure is a fake, it's a very good fake. The spec's sound
about right too, considering that Canon like to keep the models balanced
out against each other, while being a notch above the competition.

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[David J. Littleboy]

"Bart van der Wolf" <bvdwolf@no.spam> wrote:
> "David J. Littleboy" <davidjl@gol.com> wrote:
> SNIP
> > Other than the 16.7MP, I didn't see anything that surprised.
>
> What's that part about 140,000 Yen (USD1,275)? Is it a new wireless
> flash transmitter?

Close! Wireless file transmitter.

The camera itself is "open price" which means "closed price", i.e.
there's no official list price in the Japanese market.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan

[Howard McCollister]

"[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote in message
> news:414ecc2e$0$24396$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> > Yep .. the party is over for Nikon camp.
> > Canon will release a 16mpx system very soon =)
> >

Why would the $8000 full frame 16 mp 1Ds Mk II be any more of a threat to
Nikon than the $8000 full frame 12 mp 1Ds has been (which is zero)...?

HMc

[Ryadia]

Howard McCollister wrote:
> "[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote in message
>
>>news:414ecc2e$0$24396$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>>
>>>Yep .. the party is over for Nikon camp.
>>>Canon will release a 16mpx system very soon =)
>>>
>
>
> Why would the $8000 full frame 16 mp 1Ds Mk II be any more of a threat to
> Nikon than the $8000 full frame 12 mp 1Ds has been (which is zero)...?
>
> HMc
>
>
>
>
I'm a Canon owner (10D) and I'll put my money on Nikon. Absolutely a
mistake for me to have shifted camps. Hold on Nikon... I'll return!

Ryadia

[BD]

"Des Perado" <des@per.ado> wrote in message
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>
> "[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote in message
> news:414ecc2e$0$24396$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Yep .. the party is over for Nikon camp.
>> Canon will release a 16mpx system very soon =)
>>
>> http://www.eos-d-slr.net/1ds_mark2.html
>>
>>
> I find this most unlikely, given the recent release of the 20D.


http://www.rangefindermag.com/magazine/Sep04/digiphoto.tml
"We know that Canon plans to unveil the next version of the 1Ds at
Photokina, but at the time of this writing we were not privy to any details
on its specs. But, unless another manufacturer pulls a surprise, the new
version of the 1Ds will probably be the star of the show."

[Eric Gill]

"Howard McCollister" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in news:414f1ca1$0$97974
$45beb828@newscene.com:

> "[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote in message
>> news:414ecc2e$0$24396$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> > Yep .. the party is over for Nikon camp.
>> > Canon will release a 16mpx system very soon =)
>> >
>
> Why would the $8000 full frame 16 mp 1Ds Mk II

You have a price for a camera that hasn't been announced yet?

Cool.

> be any more of a threat to
> Nikon than the $8000 full frame 12 mp 1Ds has been (which is zero)...?

That would explain why Nikon finally released a competitor, yep.

[Howard McCollister]

"Eric Gill" <ericvgill@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> "Howard McCollister" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in news:414f1ca1$0$97974
> $45beb828@newscene.com:
>
> > "[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote in message
> >> news:414ecc2e$0$24396$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >> > Yep .. the party is over for Nikon camp.
> >> > Canon will release a 16mpx system very soon =)
> >> >
> >
> > Why would the $8000 full frame 16 mp 1Ds Mk II
>
> You have a price for a camera that hasn't been announced yet?
>
> Cool.
>
> > be any more of a threat to
> > Nikon than the $8000 full frame 12 mp 1Ds has been (which is zero)...?
>
> That would explain why Nikon finally released a competitor, yep.
>

You think the D2X is supposed to be a competitor to the full frame 1Ds?

I'm sure Nikon would be flattered, but we're talking quite a bit farther
down the price scale, here.

HMc

[Darrell Larose]

"[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote in message
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> Yep .. the party is over for Nikon camp.
> Canon will release a 16mpx system very soon =)
>
> http://www.eos-d-slr.net/1ds_mark2.html
>
It seems Canon can't decide on what size CMOS they should use. Three
different size sensors, 3 differnet FOV factors. Typical of Canon! They
orphaned all the FD lens users when they decided they already had their
money from that user base, so screw them!

[Darrell Larose]

"Howard McCollister" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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>
> You think the D2X is supposed to be a competitor to the full frame 1Ds?
>
Canon can't figure out what format they should use, as they now have 3
different formats of dSLRs

[Darrell Larose]

"BD" <BD@BD.BD> wrote in message
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>
> http://www.rangefindermag.com/magazine/Sep04/digiphoto.tml
> "We know that Canon plans to unveil the next version of the 1Ds at
> Photokina, but at the time of this writing we were not privy to any
details
> on its specs. But, unless another manufacturer pulls a surprise, the new
> version of the 1Ds will probably be the star of the show."
>
Pentax will steal the show, when they re-unveil the MR-52. They have worked
on this camera since they claimed to have shelved it in 2002. Pentax will
rebadge it as their new flagship of the *ist D family. This trio will have
the current *ist D with upgraded firmware, the recently announced USD $900 *
ist DS, and the pro flagship the P *ist D

;)

[Bart van der Wolf]

"Darrell Larose" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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SNIP
> It seems Canon can't decide on what size CMOS they should use.

Why must they decide on a single sensor size???

> Three different size sensors, 3 differnet FOV factors. Typical of
Canon!

Yes, for each intended audience there is a product that is most
suitable.

> They orphaned all the FD lens users when they decided they already
had their
> money from that user base, so screw them!

They understood that the old (!) mount would be too much of a
restriction to make good progress. Seems like a sensible decision to
me (and I also have an F1 + some lenses I couldn't sell for a
reasonable price, the camera still works fine).

Bart

[Cameron]

"[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote in message
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> Yep .. the party is over for Nikon camp.
> Canon will release a 16mpx system very soon =)
>
> http://www.eos-d-slr.net/1ds_mark2.html
>

BnH, I thought you would have known better than to cross post? Why not post
the same thing to aus.photo and rec.photo.digital seperately???

[Cameron]

"Darrell Larose" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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>
> "BD" <BD@BD.BD> wrote in message
> news:GkG3d.37447$D7.12858@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
> > http://www.rangefindermag.com/magazine/Sep04/digiphoto.tml
>> "We know that Canon plans to unveil the next version of the 1Ds at
>> Photokina, but at the time of this writing we were not privy to any
> details
>> on its specs. But, unless another manufacturer pulls a surprise, the new
>> version of the 1Ds will probably be the star of the show."
>>
> Pentax will steal the show, when they re-unveil the MR-52.

Hmmmmm, wacky...

They have worked
> on this camera since they claimed to have shelved it in 2002. Pentax will
> rebadge it as their new flagship of the *ist D family. This trio will have
> the current *ist D with upgraded firmware, the recently announced USD $900
> *
> ist DS, and the pro flagship the P *ist D
>
> ;)
>
>
>

[Henrik Tived]

So how many of you who comments on this are actually looking at buying a
camera like this or the Nikon D2x ? if any of you?! How many of you are
considering upgrading from the 1Ds? :-) What nobody?!

The 1ds is still a very capable and most here are making due with much
less - so I am not sure what all the hype is all about.

Just enjoy what you got and if you make some good money - fantastic, if you
are just having fun, well great for you

just keep taking those photos!

Henrik

"[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote in message
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> Yep .. the party is over for Nikon camp.
> Canon will release a 16mpx system very soon =)
>
> http://www.eos-d-slr.net/1ds_mark2.html
>
>
>

[Mark B.]

"Des Perado" <des@per.ado> wrote in message
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>
> "[BnH]" <b18[at]ii[dot]net> wrote in message
> news:414ecc2e$0$24396$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Yep .. the party is over for Nikon camp.
>> Canon will release a 16mpx system very soon =)
>>
>> http://www.eos-d-slr.net/1ds_mark2.html
>>
>>
> I find this most unlikely, given the recent release of the 20D.
>
>

Why? The 1DsII would be aimed at a totally different market.

Mark

[AU Digital POTD]

"Cameron" <ialreadyget@300spamaday.com> wrote in message
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> "Darrell Larose" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "BD" <BD@BD.BD> wrote in message
> > news:GkG3d.37447$D7.12858@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> >>
> > > http://www.rangefindermag.com/magazine/Sep04/digiphoto.tml
> >> "We know that Canon plans to unveil the next version of the 1Ds at
> >> Photokina, but at the time of this writing we were not privy to any
> > details
> >> on its specs. But, unless another manufacturer pulls a surprise, the
new
> >> version of the 1Ds will probably be the star of the show."
> >>
> > Pentax will steal the show, when they re-unveil the MR-52.
>
> Hmmmmm, wacky...
>
> They have worked
> > on this camera since they claimed to have shelved it in 2002. Pentax
will
> > rebadge it as their new flagship of the *ist D family. This trio will
have
> > the current *ist D with upgraded firmware, the recently announced USD
$900
> > *
> > ist DS, and the pro flagship the P *ist D

....and do you have to be P*ist to buy it? lol !!