Jean C
15-04-2005, 02:58 PM
I purchased a Kross DVD recorder. When I copy DVD's they won't play on any of my DVD's. TDK DVD-R's on a Toshiba (touchy) and a LG DVD. Any suggestions? :confused: Thanks guys - Jean
Your welcome
I had an XMS150 brought to me once that had 'deteriorated over time' and wouldn't play, the guy insisted on a replacement, the world was ending etc if he didn't get one on the spot, I insisted on opening it first and was greeted by around 100 dead roaches (this record still stands), I'll take your word that yours has been looked after, but I was just trying to be polite about it, I have seen some unusual ones over the years, I suspect that this is not your issue anyway.
Not all drives used in DVD players can play burnt media, these days most will play at least -R but a few models ago it was not unusual for some brands of players to not want to even look at a burnt disc, particularly the brand name players, go back a few models and Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer, Toshiba to name a few would not look at a burnt disc, Panasonic drives were also popular in some generic players but were quickly changed due to them not reading burnt media. Remember DVD burners have only become affordable and common quite recently, a few years back there wasn't too much demand for a player that could handle them as there wasn't enough media in circulation for it to be an issue.
I really do suspect that this is the issue anyway, hopefully the guides in the previous links provided will be helpful.
I post a fair bit and don't remember eveything I have posted and who to, I'm just trying to offer some help where possible, sorry if I have overlooked something.
A friend of mine up until recently worked in the department you would have spoken to at LG, I know their customer service can be a bit poor, I have used LG burners in the past and haven't had any trouble making movies with them, we also had one until recently at work which had done several hundred movies before it was retired, I don't think they are that bad. Even so DVD burners are cheap enough that a replacement is worthwhile, I would strongly recommend a Pioneer burner if you decide to update, I have three of these at the moment and they have been excellent.
Yes there is a difference, not all drives support burnt media, this is a physical hardware limitation. Even when building a DVD player (I am referring to purchase from the supplier at factory level) it is neccessary to specify what media types you want supported and the player is spec'd and built accordingly, it is still possible to spec the player with a drive that does not support burnt media, we don't ever do this though, all players we do must at least support -R media, higher range models have +R support added which costs extra, Panasonic do a DVD player that supports DVD-RAM also, I guess because it's one of the formats used with their recorders, not aware of any others that support it though.
I'm sure you are on the verge of working out where this is going wrong for you.
No problem, offer still stands. You might also want to try burning something to a -R disc and taking it into your nearest retailer and see if any of the display units will play it, do keep in mind that some players are a bit loose in their standards depending on the chipset the player is based on and can play discs that do not conform to correct book types, if you have it right it should play in just about any player on display, I don't know of any player on the market at the moment that doesn't play -R media at least. There can be a small quantity that don't like it but this would usually relate to the media used, some brands are more successful than others, burning at a slower speed can often eliminate this as an issue though. Suggest you burn at 2x if your burner allows it, also make sure that you have your burning software updated to the latest version also, typically the updates add increased media compatibility and will give better results. If you still can't get something that plays in the majority of players on the shelf then something is still obviously going south, if so let me know and I'd be quite happy to send you a test disc that you can use to check your player and the others that you are trying to accomodate. If you have 3 players that won't handle this disc then I would suggest purchasing a trifecta in next years Melbourne cup, the odds are similar :dD
Good idea I think regardless.
You might also want to check out this info on bit setting and its use to fool a player into thinking it is dealing with a ROM and not a burnt disc http://www.signvideo.com/btst-d.htm if you do happen to have players that will not support burnt media you still may need to go down this road, unlikely that all three players fall into this category though, I can't speak for the others as I don't know what make and models they are but your XMS750 should handle -R at least, when a drive is on the way out it typically has trouble with burnt media but still handles pre mastered disc fine, if this were the case though it should still at least try to play but would just skip and carry on before giving up. For whatever burner you may end up with down the track this site is a useful resource also http://forum.rpc1.org/index.php plenty of info on firmware updates, user advice etc
Let us know how you get on either way.
Your welcome
I had an XMS150 brought to me once that had 'deteriorated over time' and wouldn't play, the guy insisted on a replacement, the world was ending etc if he didn't get one on the spot, I insisted on opening it first and was greeted by around 100 dead roaches (this record still stands), I'll take your word that yours has been looked after, but I was just trying to be polite about it, I have seen some unusual ones over the years, I suspect that this is not your issue anyway.
Not all drives used in DVD players can play burnt media, these days most will play at least -R but a few models ago it was not unusual for some brands of players to not want to even look at a burnt disc, particularly the brand name players, go back a few models and Sony, Panasonic, Pioneer, Toshiba to name a few would not look at a burnt disc, Panasonic drives were also popular in some generic players but were quickly changed due to them not reading burnt media. Remember DVD burners have only become affordable and common quite recently, a few years back there wasn't too much demand for a player that could handle them as there wasn't enough media in circulation for it to be an issue.
I really do suspect that this is the issue anyway, hopefully the guides in the previous links provided will be helpful.
I post a fair bit and don't remember eveything I have posted and who to, I'm just trying to offer some help where possible, sorry if I have overlooked something.
A friend of mine up until recently worked in the department you would have spoken to at LG, I know their customer service can be a bit poor, I have used LG burners in the past and haven't had any trouble making movies with them, we also had one until recently at work which had done several hundred movies before it was retired, I don't think they are that bad. Even so DVD burners are cheap enough that a replacement is worthwhile, I would strongly recommend a Pioneer burner if you decide to update, I have three of these at the moment and they have been excellent.
Yes there is a difference, not all drives support burnt media, this is a physical hardware limitation. Even when building a DVD player (I am referring to purchase from the supplier at factory level) it is neccessary to specify what media types you want supported and the player is spec'd and built accordingly, it is still possible to spec the player with a drive that does not support burnt media, we don't ever do this though, all players we do must at least support -R media, higher range models have +R support added which costs extra, Panasonic do a DVD player that supports DVD-RAM also, I guess because it's one of the formats used with their recorders, not aware of any others that support it though.
I'm sure you are on the verge of working out where this is going wrong for you.
No problem, offer still stands. You might also want to try burning something to a -R disc and taking it into your nearest retailer and see if any of the display units will play it, do keep in mind that some players are a bit loose in their standards depending on the chipset the player is based on and can play discs that do not conform to correct book types, if you have it right it should play in just about any player on display, I don't know of any player on the market at the moment that doesn't play -R media at least. There can be a small quantity that don't like it but this would usually relate to the media used, some brands are more successful than others, burning at a slower speed can often eliminate this as an issue though. Suggest you burn at 2x if your burner allows it, also make sure that you have your burning software updated to the latest version also, typically the updates add increased media compatibility and will give better results. If you still can't get something that plays in the majority of players on the shelf then something is still obviously going south, if so let me know and I'd be quite happy to send you a test disc that you can use to check your player and the others that you are trying to accomodate. If you have 3 players that won't handle this disc then I would suggest purchasing a trifecta in next years Melbourne cup, the odds are similar :dD
Good idea I think regardless.
You might also want to check out this info on bit setting and its use to fool a player into thinking it is dealing with a ROM and not a burnt disc http://www.signvideo.com/btst-d.htm if you do happen to have players that will not support burnt media you still may need to go down this road, unlikely that all three players fall into this category though, I can't speak for the others as I don't know what make and models they are but your XMS750 should handle -R at least, when a drive is on the way out it typically has trouble with burnt media but still handles pre mastered disc fine, if this were the case though it should still at least try to play but would just skip and carry on before giving up. For whatever burner you may end up with down the track this site is a useful resource also http://forum.rpc1.org/index.php plenty of info on firmware updates, user advice etc
Let us know how you get on either way.