Home Theatre Advice Needed

[Adam SLATER \(H0llyw00d H0gan\)]

I have the following:

142cm rear projection Panasonic TV
Panasonic DVD Recorder
Foxtel Digital STU
DGTEC HD STU
5 DOSS Speakers and Subwoofer.

I am new to this Home Theatre revolution.I presume I need some rype of AV
Receiver to run this setup. What receiver should I purchase to run this
system to its best performance ?

[bassett]

It really would depend on how much your prepared to spend, and what standard
of 5.1 you want, quality wise.

You can pick up a Chinese made Sansui 5.1 Tuner/receiver for a couple of
hundred dollars, From Strathfield Radio, that you might consider adequate
to drive your speakers,

Or you could spend many thousands of dollars, on a Pre amp // power amp
combination.

Your speakers are unknown to me, so I can,t comment, But if there small
satellite speakers, they will sound lousy, whatever the amplification,
sorry.
bassett



"Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)" <Youwish@home.com> wrote in message
news:7Kijd.22491$K7.9205@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> I have the following:
>
> 142cm rear projection Panasonic TV
> Panasonic DVD Recorder
> Foxtel Digital STU
> DGTEC HD STU
> 5 DOSS Speakers and Subwoofer.
>
> I am new to this Home Theatre revolution.I presume I need some rype of AV
> Receiver to run this setup. What receiver should I purchase to run this
> system to its best performance ?
>
>
>

[Adam SLATER \(H0llyw00d H0gan\)]

http://panasonic.com.au/products/details.cfm?objectID=2131

[Adam SLATER \(H0llyw00d H0gan\)]

Or this ?

http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22050

[HenryK]

If those DOSS speakers are some really cheapo ones, then you need this:
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3279&item=5729014639&rd=1

"Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)" <Youwish@home.com> wrote in message
news:CKojd.23645$K7.10430@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Or this ?
>
> http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22050
>
>

[bassett]

No he's spoken the word, Sony. So now we know there crap.

There is some really good quality stuff on the market these days, IF your
prepared to spend the money, If your in a main Town, City, there are
dedicated retail outlets for such gear, Sydney, would have Audio Connection,
a vast Aladdin's cave of goodies, both new and traded, Campsie Hi-Fi, Hi-Fi
Junction at Bondi, You really don,t need to spend mega dollars.
Just stay away from Hardly Normal, or Retrovision. etc. They all have
these poxy little sound rooms, they turn the volume right up, and then tell
you how wonderful it sounds, Get them to turn the sound right down,
disconnect the Base Sub, and see what the reaction is.
and if you really want to get up there nose , take along a CD Audio test
disk. Any reputable sound retailer will offer a selection of test C.D's.
and leave you in an easy chair with a cup of coffee

bassett


"Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)" <Youwish@home.com> wrote in message
news:CKojd.23645$K7.10430@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Or this ?
>
> http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22050
>
>

[www.ideliverit.com]

I think this guy wants a serious receiver guys! I bought a 2nd hand Luxman
7.1 130 watts RMS each channel amp off Ebay for $550.00 and I have excellent
speakers complete digital surround sound and it blows me away every time!
The performance is totally awesome. I know the guy that sells them on Ebay
has more of them! If pressed I could find his Ebay ID for you. Don't go for
the 5.1 or 6.1 rubbish! More and more movies are coming out in 7.1 format!

Cheers,
Col

"bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
news:4190316b@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> No he's spoken the word, Sony. So now we know there crap.
>
> There is some really good quality stuff on the market these days, IF your
> prepared to spend the money, If your in a main Town, City, there are
> dedicated retail outlets for such gear, Sydney, would have Audio
Connection,
> a vast Aladdin's cave of goodies, both new and traded, Campsie Hi-Fi,
Hi-Fi
> Junction at Bondi, You really don,t need to spend mega dollars.
> Just stay away from Hardly Normal, or Retrovision. etc. They all have
> these poxy little sound rooms, they turn the volume right up, and then
tell
> you how wonderful it sounds, Get them to turn the sound right down,
> disconnect the Base Sub, and see what the reaction is.
> and if you really want to get up there nose , take along a CD Audio test
> disk. Any reputable sound retailer will offer a selection of test C.D's.
> and leave you in an easy chair with a cup of coffee
>
> bassett
>
>
> "Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)" <Youwish@home.com> wrote in message
> news:CKojd.23645$K7.10430@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > Or this ?
> >
> > http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22050
> >
> >
>
>

[SA000584]

I think this guy wants a serious receiver guys! I bought a 2nd hand Luxman
7.1 130 watts RMS each channel amp off Ebay for $550.00 and I have excellent
speakers complete digital surround sound and it blows me away every time!
The performance is totally awesome. I know the guy that sells them on Ebay
has more of them! If pressed I could find his Ebay ID for you. Don't go for
the 5.1 or 6.1 rubbish! More and more movies are coming out in 7.1 format!

Cheers,
Col

>[/color]


I dont know where you come from but I haven't seen one movie come out in 7.1 format ???

[John]

Dolby Digital ES and DTS EX are all six channel format, 7.1 is a
manufacturer's gimmick
I have Pioneer AX5i which has 7.1 but there aren't many software of either
DD ES or DTS EX.

"www.ideliverit.com" <sales@ideliverit.com> wrote in message
news:n1Zjd.29948$K7.12661@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> I think this guy wants a serious receiver guys! I bought a 2nd hand Luxman
> 7.1 130 watts RMS each channel amp off Ebay for $550.00 and I have
excellent
> speakers complete digital surround sound and it blows me away every time!
> The performance is totally awesome. I know the guy that sells them on Ebay
> has more of them! If pressed I could find his Ebay ID for you. Don't go
for
> the 5.1 or 6.1 rubbish! More and more movies are coming out in 7.1 format!
>
> Cheers,
> Col
>
> "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> news:4190316b@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > No he's spoken the word, Sony. So now we know there crap.
> >
> > There is some really good quality stuff on the market these days, IF
your
> > prepared to spend the money, If your in a main Town, City, there are
> > dedicated retail outlets for such gear, Sydney, would have Audio
> Connection,
> > a vast Aladdin's cave of goodies, both new and traded, Campsie Hi-Fi,
> Hi-Fi
> > Junction at Bondi, You really don,t need to spend mega dollars.
> > Just stay away from Hardly Normal, or Retrovision. etc. They all
have
> > these poxy little sound rooms, they turn the volume right up, and then
> tell
> > you how wonderful it sounds, Get them to turn the sound right down,
> > disconnect the Base Sub, and see what the reaction is.
> > and if you really want to get up there nose , take along a CD Audio test
> > disk. Any reputable sound retailer will offer a selection of test
C.D's.
> > and leave you in an easy chair with a cup of coffee
> >
> > bassett
> >
> >
> > "Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)" <Youwish@home.com> wrote in message
> > news:CKojd.23645$K7.10430@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > Or this ?
> > >
> > > http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22050
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Sunsinger]

I dont know where you come from but I haven't seen one movie come out in 7.1 format ???

Ideliverit does sound more than just a bit like a sales person promoting his own Ebay line, does he not?

[bassett]

I dunno about 7.1, The cost of a half decent Power Amp, for 5.1
is in excess of 10K, So I just stick with good Stereo.
bassett

"John" <jlang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:zQ0kd.89$Wk4.4651@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> Dolby Digital ES and DTS EX are all six channel format, 7.1 is a
> manufacturer's gimmick
> I have Pioneer AX5i which has 7.1 but there aren't many software of
either
> DD ES or DTS EX.
>
> "www.ideliverit.com" <sales@ideliverit.com> wrote in message
> news:n1Zjd.29948$K7.12661@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > I think this guy wants a serious receiver guys! I bought a 2nd hand
Luxman
> > 7.1 130 watts RMS each channel amp off Ebay for $550.00 and I have
> excellent
> > speakers complete digital surround sound and it blows me away every
time!
> > The performance is totally awesome. I know the guy that sells them on
Ebay
> > has more of them! If pressed I could find his Ebay ID for you. Don't go
> for
> > the 5.1 or 6.1 rubbish! More and more movies are coming out in 7.1
format!
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Col
> >
> > "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> > news:4190316b@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > > No he's spoken the word, Sony. So now we know there crap.
> > >
> > > There is some really good quality stuff on the market these days, IF
> your
> > > prepared to spend the money, If your in a main Town, City, there are
> > > dedicated retail outlets for such gear, Sydney, would have Audio
> > Connection,
> > > a vast Aladdin's cave of goodies, both new and traded, Campsie Hi-Fi,
> > Hi-Fi
> > > Junction at Bondi, You really don,t need to spend mega dollars.
> > > Just stay away from Hardly Normal, or Retrovision. etc. They all
> have
> > > these poxy little sound rooms, they turn the volume right up, and then
> > tell
> > > you how wonderful it sounds, Get them to turn the sound right down,
> > > disconnect the Base Sub, and see what the reaction is.
> > > and if you really want to get up there nose , take along a CD Audio
test
> > > disk. Any reputable sound retailer will offer a selection of test
> C.D's.
> > > and leave you in an easy chair with a cup of coffee
> > >
> > > bassett
> > >
> > >
> > > "Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)" <Youwish@home.com> wrote in message
> > > news:CKojd.23645$K7.10430@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > Or this ?
> > > >
> > > >
http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22050
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[John]

Cost of half decent power amp does not cost more than 10K unless
you are after slightly high end stuff. Half decent brand are the likes of
Rotels or Nad and they certainly don't cost more than 10K.

"bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
news:41917882@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> I dunno about 7.1, The cost of a half decent Power Amp, for 5.1
> is in excess of 10K, So I just stick with good Stereo.
> bassett
>
> "John" <jlang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:zQ0kd.89$Wk4.4651@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > Dolby Digital ES and DTS EX are all six channel format, 7.1 is a
> > manufacturer's gimmick
> > I have Pioneer AX5i which has 7.1 but there aren't many software of
> either
> > DD ES or DTS EX.
> >
> > "www.ideliverit.com" <sales@ideliverit.com> wrote in message
> > news:n1Zjd.29948$K7.12661@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > I think this guy wants a serious receiver guys! I bought a 2nd hand
> Luxman
> > > 7.1 130 watts RMS each channel amp off Ebay for $550.00 and I have
> > excellent
> > > speakers complete digital surround sound and it blows me away every
> time!
> > > The performance is totally awesome. I know the guy that sells them on
> Ebay
> > > has more of them! If pressed I could find his Ebay ID for you. Don't
go
> > for
> > > the 5.1 or 6.1 rubbish! More and more movies are coming out in 7.1
> format!
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> > > Col
> > >
> > > "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> > > news:4190316b@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > > > No he's spoken the word, Sony. So now we know there crap.
> > > >
> > > > There is some really good quality stuff on the market these days, IF
> > your
> > > > prepared to spend the money, If your in a main Town, City, there
are
> > > > dedicated retail outlets for such gear, Sydney, would have Audio
> > > Connection,
> > > > a vast Aladdin's cave of goodies, both new and traded, Campsie
Hi-Fi,
> > > Hi-Fi
> > > > Junction at Bondi, You really don,t need to spend mega dollars.
> > > > Just stay away from Hardly Normal, or Retrovision. etc. They all
> > have
> > > > these poxy little sound rooms, they turn the volume right up, and
then
> > > tell
> > > > you how wonderful it sounds, Get them to turn the sound right down,
> > > > disconnect the Base Sub, and see what the reaction is.
> > > > and if you really want to get up there nose , take along a CD Audio
> test
> > > > disk. Any reputable sound retailer will offer a selection of test
> > C.D's.
> > > > and leave you in an easy chair with a cup of coffee
> > > >
> > > > bassett
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)" <Youwish@home.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:CKojd.23645$K7.10430@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > > Or this ?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22050
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[bassett]

You don,t consider Rotel, High-end..?????

"John" <jlang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:2Eokd.220$io5.8094@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> Cost of half decent power amp does not cost more than 10K unless
> you are after slightly high end stuff. Half decent brand are the likes of
> Rotels or Nad and they certainly don't cost more than 10K.
>
> "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> news:41917882@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > I dunno about 7.1, The cost of a half decent Power Amp, for 5.1
> > is in excess of 10K, So I just stick with good Stereo.
> >
bassett
> >
> > "John" <jlang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:zQ0kd.89$Wk4.4651@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > > Dolby Digital ES and DTS EX are all six channel format, 7.1 is a
> > > manufacturer's gimmick
> > > I have Pioneer AX5i which has 7.1 but there aren't many software of
> > either
> > > DD ES or DTS EX.
> > >
> > > "www.ideliverit.com" <sales@ideliverit.com> wrote in message
> > > news:n1Zjd.29948$K7.12661@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > I think this guy wants a serious receiver guys! I bought a 2nd hand
> > Luxman
> > > > 7.1 130 watts RMS each channel amp off Ebay for $550.00 and I have
> > > excellent
> > > > speakers complete digital surround sound and it blows me away every
> > time!
> > > > The performance is totally awesome. I know the guy that sells them
on
> > Ebay
> > > > has more of them! If pressed I could find his Ebay ID for you. Don't
> go
> > > for
> > > > the 5.1 or 6.1 rubbish! More and more movies are coming out in 7.1
> > format!
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Col
> > > >
> > > > "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:4190316b@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > > > > No he's spoken the word, Sony. So now we know there crap.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is some really good quality stuff on the market these days,
IF
> > > your
> > > > > prepared to spend the money, If your in a main Town, City, there
> are
> > > > > dedicated retail outlets for such gear, Sydney, would have Audio
> > > > Connection,
> > > > > a vast Aladdin's cave of goodies, both new and traded, Campsie
> Hi-Fi,
> > > > Hi-Fi
> > > > > Junction at Bondi, You really don,t need to spend mega dollars.
> > > > > Just stay away from Hardly Normal, or Retrovision. etc. They
all
> > > have
> > > > > these poxy little sound rooms, they turn the volume right up, and
> then
> > > > tell
> > > > > you how wonderful it sounds, Get them to turn the sound right
down,
> > > > > disconnect the Base Sub, and see what the reaction is.
> > > > > and if you really want to get up there nose , take along a CD
Audio
> > test
> > > > > disk. Any reputable sound retailer will offer a selection of test
> > > C.D's.
> > > > > and leave you in an easy chair with a cup of coffee
> > > > >
> > > > > bassett
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)" <Youwish@home.com> wrote in
message
> > > > > news:CKojd.23645$K7.10430@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > > > Or this ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22050
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[www.ideliverit.com]

Hmmm..
1 centre front speaker +
1 left front centre speaker +
1 right front centre speaker +
1 left rear speaker +
1 right rear speaker +
1 centre rear speaker +
1 subwoofer

No matter which way you look at it. It always adds up to 7!!!! Hence 7.1
exists!! I would love to hear your opinions on this simple arithmetic?


Col



"bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
news:4192fede@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> You don,t consider Rotel, High-end..?????
>
> "John" <jlang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:2Eokd.220$io5.8094@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > Cost of half decent power amp does not cost more than 10K unless
> > you are after slightly high end stuff. Half decent brand are the likes
of
> > Rotels or Nad and they certainly don't cost more than 10K.
> >
> > "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> > news:41917882@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > > I dunno about 7.1, The cost of a half decent Power Amp, for 5.1
> > > is in excess of 10K, So I just stick with good Stereo.
> > >
> bassett
> > >
> > > "John" <jlang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:zQ0kd.89$Wk4.4651@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > > > Dolby Digital ES and DTS EX are all six channel format, 7.1 is a
> > > > manufacturer's gimmick
> > > > I have Pioneer AX5i which has 7.1 but there aren't many software of
> > > either
> > > > DD ES or DTS EX.
> > > >
> > > > "www.ideliverit.com" <sales@ideliverit.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:n1Zjd.29948$K7.12661@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > > I think this guy wants a serious receiver guys! I bought a 2nd
hand
> > > Luxman
> > > > > 7.1 130 watts RMS each channel amp off Ebay for $550.00 and I have
> > > > excellent
> > > > > speakers complete digital surround sound and it blows me away
every
> > > time!
> > > > > The performance is totally awesome. I know the guy that sells them
> on
> > > Ebay
> > > > > has more of them! If pressed I could find his Ebay ID for you.
Don't
> > go
> > > > for
> > > > > the 5.1 or 6.1 rubbish! More and more movies are coming out in 7.1
> > > format!
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Col
> > > > >
> > > > > "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:4190316b@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > > > > > No he's spoken the word, Sony. So now we know there crap.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is some really good quality stuff on the market these
days,
> IF
> > > > your
> > > > > > prepared to spend the money, If your in a main Town, City,
there
> > are
> > > > > > dedicated retail outlets for such gear, Sydney, would have Audio
> > > > > Connection,
> > > > > > a vast Aladdin's cave of goodies, both new and traded, Campsie
> > Hi-Fi,
> > > > > Hi-Fi
> > > > > > Junction at Bondi, You really don,t need to spend mega dollars.
> > > > > > Just stay away from Hardly Normal, or Retrovision. etc. They
> all
> > > > have
> > > > > > these poxy little sound rooms, they turn the volume right up,
and
> > then
> > > > > tell
> > > > > > you how wonderful it sounds, Get them to turn the sound right
> down,
> > > > > > disconnect the Base Sub, and see what the reaction is.
> > > > > > and if you really want to get up there nose , take along a CD
> Audio
> > > test
> > > > > > disk. Any reputable sound retailer will offer a selection of
test
> > > > C.D's.
> > > > > > and leave you in an easy chair with a cup of coffee
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bassett
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)" <Youwish@home.com> wrote in
> message
> > > > > > news:CKojd.23645$K7.10430@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > > > > Or this ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22050
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[David]

Rotel High End? You are kidding, right?

It is OK in the cheap gear class, but certainly not in the league with brands
like Pioneer, Sansui, Yamaha etc. Pay a little more and get good gear if you
have (or are going to get at some time) speakers that will show the difference
- but if you are only running cheapy speakers then it probably wont matter much
as they will be the limiting factor.

David

bassett wrote:

> You don,t consider Rotel, High-end..?????
>

[David]

Not a good idea at all - take along a couple of your own CDs, ones that you are
familiar with, and preferably ones which focus on different aspects of music
and voice.

Then listen. Always an AB test on the speakers that seem to be best when you
have narrowned the selection down. Back and forth, on vocals, on the
instrumental style you fancy, use organ and drums to check how they handle
bass. Make sure it is you that adjusts the bass and treble, not the salesman.
Make sure that the same amp is used on all the speakers you seriousely
consider.

AND LAST AND MOST IMPORTANT - if you are buying good gear make your final
selection in your house, not the stores showroom. Any fair dinkum store will
be happy to arrange that..


David

"www.ideliverit.com" wrote:

> > > > > > > disk. Any reputable sound retailer will offer a selection of
> test
> > > > > C.D's.
> > > > > > > and leave you in an easy chair with a cup of coffee
>

[John]

No, I don't consider Rotel as high end, to me
the high end brands are brands like Lexicon, Tag
McLaren, Krell, Classe, parasound and Mcintosh.
Rotel is still a mass market brand and it is not a
high end brand, for 5K you can certainly get Rotel
multi channel power amps.

"bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
news:4192fede@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> You don,t consider Rotel, High-end..?????
>
> "John" <jlang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> news:2Eokd.220$io5.8094@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > Cost of half decent power amp does not cost more than 10K unless
> > you are after slightly high end stuff. Half decent brand are the likes
of
> > Rotels or Nad and they certainly don't cost more than 10K.
> >
> > "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> > news:41917882@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > > I dunno about 7.1, The cost of a half decent Power Amp, for 5.1
> > > is in excess of 10K, So I just stick with good Stereo.
> > >
> bassett
> > >
> > > "John" <jlang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:zQ0kd.89$Wk4.4651@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > > > Dolby Digital ES and DTS EX are all six channel format, 7.1 is a
> > > > manufacturer's gimmick
> > > > I have Pioneer AX5i which has 7.1 but there aren't many software of
> > > either
> > > > DD ES or DTS EX.
> > > >
> > > > "www.ideliverit.com" <sales@ideliverit.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:n1Zjd.29948$K7.12661@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > > I think this guy wants a serious receiver guys! I bought a 2nd
hand
> > > Luxman
> > > > > 7.1 130 watts RMS each channel amp off Ebay for $550.00 and I have
> > > > excellent
> > > > > speakers complete digital surround sound and it blows me away
every
> > > time!
> > > > > The performance is totally awesome. I know the guy that sells them
> on
> > > Ebay
> > > > > has more of them! If pressed I could find his Ebay ID for you.
Don't
> > go
> > > > for
> > > > > the 5.1 or 6.1 rubbish! More and more movies are coming out in 7.1
> > > format!
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Col
> > > > >
> > > > > "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:4190316b@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > > > > > No he's spoken the word, Sony. So now we know there crap.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > There is some really good quality stuff on the market these
days,
> IF
> > > > your
> > > > > > prepared to spend the money, If your in a main Town, City,
there
> > are
> > > > > > dedicated retail outlets for such gear, Sydney, would have Audio
> > > > > Connection,
> > > > > > a vast Aladdin's cave of goodies, both new and traded, Campsie
> > Hi-Fi,
> > > > > Hi-Fi
> > > > > > Junction at Bondi, You really don,t need to spend mega dollars.
> > > > > > Just stay away from Hardly Normal, or Retrovision. etc. They
> all
> > > > have
> > > > > > these poxy little sound rooms, they turn the volume right up,
and
> > then
> > > > > tell
> > > > > > you how wonderful it sounds, Get them to turn the sound right
> down,
> > > > > > disconnect the Base Sub, and see what the reaction is.
> > > > > > and if you really want to get up there nose , take along a CD
> Audio
> > > test
> > > > > > disk. Any reputable sound retailer will offer a selection of
test
> > > > C.D's.
> > > > > > and leave you in an easy chair with a cup of coffee
> > > > > >
> > > > > > bassett
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)" <Youwish@home.com> wrote in
> message
> > > > > > news:CKojd.23645$K7.10430@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > > > > Or this ?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22050
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[John]

If that is the way you are counting then even 9.1 exist, just look at some
of the Yamaha receivers. I have heard disc which has DTS-ES sound
track and it is only 6.1 and show me a movie which has 7.1 sound track.
Simply the number of speakers in your room or number of speakers your
amp can accomodate does not mean the actual recorded sound track is
recorded in 7 channels. You can enjoy 6 channels stereo with normal cd
using the av amps but the music you are playing is still recorded in 2
channel stereo.


"www.ideliverit.com" <sales@ideliverit.com> wrote in message
news:TpDkd.32047$K7.8602@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> Hmmm..
> 1 centre front speaker +
> 1 left front centre speaker +
> 1 right front centre speaker +
> 1 left rear speaker +
> 1 right rear speaker +
> 1 centre rear speaker +
> 1 subwoofer
>
> No matter which way you look at it. It always adds up to 7!!!! Hence 7.1
> exists!! I would love to hear your opinions on this simple arithmetic?
>
>
> Col
>
>
>
> "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> news:4192fede@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > You don,t consider Rotel, High-end..?????
> >
> > "John" <jlang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > news:2Eokd.220$io5.8094@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > > Cost of half decent power amp does not cost more than 10K unless
> > > you are after slightly high end stuff. Half decent brand are the
likes
> of
> > > Rotels or Nad and they certainly don't cost more than 10K.
> > >
> > > "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> > > news:41917882@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > > > I dunno about 7.1, The cost of a half decent Power Amp, for 5.1
> > > > is in excess of 10K, So I just stick with good Stereo.
> > > >
> > bassett
> > > >
> > > > "John" <jlang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > > > news:zQ0kd.89$Wk4.4651@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > > > > Dolby Digital ES and DTS EX are all six channel format, 7.1 is a
> > > > > manufacturer's gimmick
> > > > > I have Pioneer AX5i which has 7.1 but there aren't many software
of
> > > > either
> > > > > DD ES or DTS EX.
> > > > >
> > > > > "www.ideliverit.com" <sales@ideliverit.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:n1Zjd.29948$K7.12661@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > > > I think this guy wants a serious receiver guys! I bought a 2nd
> hand
> > > > Luxman
> > > > > > 7.1 130 watts RMS each channel amp off Ebay for $550.00 and I
have
> > > > > excellent
> > > > > > speakers complete digital surround sound and it blows me away
> every
> > > > time!
> > > > > > The performance is totally awesome. I know the guy that sells
them
> > on
> > > > Ebay
> > > > > > has more of them! If pressed I could find his Ebay ID for you.
> Don't
> > > go
> > > > > for
> > > > > > the 5.1 or 6.1 rubbish! More and more movies are coming out in
7.1
> > > > format!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Col
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:4190316b@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > > > > > > No he's spoken the word, Sony. So now we know there crap.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > There is some really good quality stuff on the market these
> days,
> > IF
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > prepared to spend the money, If your in a main Town, City,
> there
> > > are
> > > > > > > dedicated retail outlets for such gear, Sydney, would have
Audio
> > > > > > Connection,
> > > > > > > a vast Aladdin's cave of goodies, both new and traded, Campsie
> > > Hi-Fi,
> > > > > > Hi-Fi
> > > > > > > Junction at Bondi, You really don,t need to spend mega
dollars.
> > > > > > > Just stay away from Hardly Normal, or Retrovision. etc.
They
> > all
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > these poxy little sound rooms, they turn the volume right up,
> and
> > > then
> > > > > > tell
> > > > > > > you how wonderful it sounds, Get them to turn the sound right
> > down,
> > > > > > > disconnect the Base Sub, and see what the reaction is.
> > > > > > > and if you really want to get up there nose , take along a CD
> > Audio
> > > > test
> > > > > > > disk. Any reputable sound retailer will offer a selection of
> test
> > > > > C.D's.
> > > > > > > and leave you in an easy chair with a cup of coffee
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
bassett
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)" <Youwish@home.com> wrote in
> > message
> > > > > > > news:CKojd.23645$K7.10430@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > > > > > Or this ?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > >
http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22050
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[bassett]

Good solid sound advice David,, I always go armed with some Piano
Music C.D.'s and if they don't like it, fine, I can go elsewhere, but there
stuck in one place.
bassett



"David" <david1133@REMOVE-TO-REPLYoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:41931305.EA31DF47@REMOVE-TO-REPLYoptusnet.com.au...
> Not a good idea at all - take along a couple of your own CDs, ones that
you are
> familiar with, and preferably ones which focus on different aspects of
music
> and voice.
>
> Then listen. Always an AB test on the speakers that seem to be best when
you
> have narrowned the selection down. Back and forth, on vocals, on the
> instrumental style you fancy, use organ and drums to check how they handle
> bass. Make sure it is you that adjusts the bass and treble, not the
salesman.
> Make sure that the same amp is used on all the speakers you seriousely
> consider.
>
> AND LAST AND MOST IMPORTANT - if you are buying good gear make your final
> selection in your house, not the stores showroom. Any fair dinkum store
will
> be happy to arrange that..
>
>
> David
>
> "www.ideliverit.com" wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > disk. Any reputable sound retailer will offer a selection
of
> > test
> > > > > > C.D's.
> > > > > > > > and leave you in an easy chair with a cup of coffee
> >
>

[www.ideliverit.com]

All depends if you are talking about digital surround or Pro Logic surround.
I understand where you are coming from John. However, people need to know
the difference between digital and pro-logic. digital is the complete
separation of channels. Hence the 5.1 saga. However, pro-logic is the
separation of frequencies. Then, you have ES format which, I believe is
digital + prologic that gives you 5 separate channels + a break up of the
frequencies for front and rear centre.

Col


"John" <jlang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
news:e5Ikd.97$Os6.5644@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> If that is the way you are counting then even 9.1 exist, just look at some
> of the Yamaha receivers. I have heard disc which has DTS-ES sound
> track and it is only 6.1 and show me a movie which has 7.1 sound track.
> Simply the number of speakers in your room or number of speakers your
> amp can accomodate does not mean the actual recorded sound track is
> recorded in 7 channels. You can enjoy 6 channels stereo with normal cd
> using the av amps but the music you are playing is still recorded in 2
> channel stereo.
>
>
> "www.ideliverit.com" <sales@ideliverit.com> wrote in message
> news:TpDkd.32047$K7.8602@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > Hmmm..
> > 1 centre front speaker +
> > 1 left front centre speaker +
> > 1 right front centre speaker +
> > 1 left rear speaker +
> > 1 right rear speaker +
> > 1 centre rear speaker +
> > 1 subwoofer
> >
> > No matter which way you look at it. It always adds up to 7!!!! Hence 7.1
> > exists!! I would love to hear your opinions on this simple arithmetic?
> >
> >
> > Col
> >
> >
> >
> > "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> > news:4192fede@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > > You don,t consider Rotel, High-end..?????
> > >
> > > "John" <jlang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > > news:2Eokd.220$io5.8094@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > > > Cost of half decent power amp does not cost more than 10K unless
> > > > you are after slightly high end stuff. Half decent brand are the
> likes
> > of
> > > > Rotels or Nad and they certainly don't cost more than 10K.
> > > >
> > > > "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:41917882@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > > > > I dunno about 7.1, The cost of a half decent Power Amp, for 5.1
> > > > > is in excess of 10K, So I just stick with good Stereo.
> > > > >
> > > bassett
> > > > >
> > > > > "John" <jlang@ozemail.com.au> wrote in message
> > > > > news:zQ0kd.89$Wk4.4651@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
> > > > > > Dolby Digital ES and DTS EX are all six channel format, 7.1 is a
> > > > > > manufacturer's gimmick
> > > > > > I have Pioneer AX5i which has 7.1 but there aren't many
software
> of
> > > > > either
> > > > > > DD ES or DTS EX.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "www.ideliverit.com" <sales@ideliverit.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:n1Zjd.29948$K7.12661@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > > > > I think this guy wants a serious receiver guys! I bought a 2nd
> > hand
> > > > > Luxman
> > > > > > > 7.1 130 watts RMS each channel amp off Ebay for $550.00 and I
> have
> > > > > > excellent
> > > > > > > speakers complete digital surround sound and it blows me away
> > every
> > > > > time!
> > > > > > > The performance is totally awesome. I know the guy that sells
> them
> > > on
> > > > > Ebay
> > > > > > > has more of them! If pressed I could find his Ebay ID for you.
> > Don't
> > > > go
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > the 5.1 or 6.1 rubbish! More and more movies are coming out in
> 7.1
> > > > > format!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > > Col
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "bassett" <bassett@bassettskennell.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:4190316b@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> > > > > > > > No he's spoken the word, Sony. So now we know there crap.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There is some really good quality stuff on the market these
> > days,
> > > IF
> > > > > > your
> > > > > > > > prepared to spend the money, If your in a main Town, City,
> > there
> > > > are
> > > > > > > > dedicated retail outlets for such gear, Sydney, would have
> Audio
> > > > > > > Connection,
> > > > > > > > a vast Aladdin's cave of goodies, both new and traded,
Campsie
> > > > Hi-Fi,
> > > > > > > Hi-Fi
> > > > > > > > Junction at Bondi, You really don,t need to spend mega
> dollars.
> > > > > > > > Just stay away from Hardly Normal, or Retrovision. etc.
> They
> > > all
> > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > these poxy little sound rooms, they turn the volume right
up,
> > and
> > > > then
> > > > > > > tell
> > > > > > > > you how wonderful it sounds, Get them to turn the sound
right
> > > down,
> > > > > > > > disconnect the Base Sub, and see what the reaction is.
> > > > > > > > and if you really want to get up there nose , take along a
CD
> > > Audio
> > > > > test
> > > > > > > > disk. Any reputable sound retailer will offer a selection
of
> > test
> > > > > > C.D's.
> > > > > > > > and leave you in an easy chair with a cup of coffee
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> bassett
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Adam SLATER (H0llyw00d H0gan)" <Youwish@home.com> wrote in
> > > message
> > > > > > > > news:CKojd.23645$K7.10430@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> > > > > > > > > Or this ?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >
> http://www.sony.com.au/homecinema/catalog/product.jsp?categoryId=22050
> > > > > > > > >
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