Re: Which Telco will have which numbers

[Michael]

"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:38:47 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
> >news:4189cf2f$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
> >> budgie wrote:
> >>
> >> > On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:52:12 +1100, "Frank" <frankxxx (AT) nowhere (DOT) com>
wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
> >> >>news:4188b745$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
> >> >>
> >> >>>Which Telco has/will have the number 0434 xxx xxx?
> >> >>
> >> >>Optus
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > More precisely, the number block will have been originally allocated
to
> >XXXX
> >> > carrier, but MNP means that is entirely academic in terms of any
> >individula
> >> > number within the block.
> >>
> >> How does one go about applying for a particular number? It doesn't fall
> >> into the category of Gold, Silver or bronze
> >
> >You just ask the carrier to whom the number is allocated to, connect up,
and
> >if necessary, port to the network you want
>
> and if the carrier is Tel$tra CDMA, the number is in their CDMA block, and
you
> want a particular number that is currently unassigned for your
> about_to_be_connected BYO CDMA mobile .........
>
> don't hold your breath. Been there, done that. Bastards said "that will
cost
> you $70 to have that number allocated"
>
> me: "how come? it's not a special number or anything"
>
> Tel$tra bastard/droid: "you asked for it, therefore it's special"

Whatever are you talking about???
Telstra did away with the $50 number selection fee before MNP started.
If you want a Telstra CDMA number connected on Telstra there is no charge,
unless it is premium.

If you wish to connect to Optus resold Telstra CDMA, optus can charge you as
much fees to select the number as they like

Telstra randomly allocate their CDMA numbers, Optus dont have a block or
anything

> As always, YMMV.

Your story doesnt ring true at all

[budgie]

On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:37:45 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

>
>"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
>news:d5llo0dfa8bp7t2c11d2dddalpnf1h56nd (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
>> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:38:47 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
>> >news:4189cf2f$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
>> >> budgie wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:52:12 +1100, "Frank" <frankxxx (AT) nowhere (DOT) com>
>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
>> >> >>news:4188b745$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
>> >> >>
>> >> >>>Which Telco has/will have the number 0434 xxx xxx?
>> >> >>
>> >> >>Optus
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > More precisely, the number block will have been originally allocated
>to
>> >XXXX
>> >> > carrier, but MNP means that is entirely academic in terms of any
>> >individula
>> >> > number within the block.
>> >>
>> >> How does one go about applying for a particular number? It doesn't fall
>> >> into the category of Gold, Silver or bronze
>> >
>> >You just ask the carrier to whom the number is allocated to, connect up,
>and
>> >if necessary, port to the network you want
>>
>> and if the carrier is Tel$tra CDMA, the number is in their CDMA block, and
>you
>> want a particular number that is currently unassigned for your
>> about_to_be_connected BYO CDMA mobile .........
>>
>> don't hold your breath. Been there, done that. Bastards said "that will
>cost
>> you $70 to have that number allocated"
>>
>> me: "how come? it's not a special number or anything"
>>
>> Tel$tra bastard/droid: "you asked for it, therefore it's special"
>
>Whatever are you talking about???

Told it exactly as it happened. If that's not IAW how you think Tel$tra
perform, toughtitties.


>Telstra did away with the $50 number selection fee before MNP started.
>If you want a Telstra CDMA number connected on Telstra there is no charge,
>unless it is premium.

Wrong, as usual. They seem to be able to invoke a fee on a whim.

>If you wish to connect to Optus resold Telstra CDMA, optus can charge you as
>much fees to select the number as they like

Irrelevant.

>Telstra randomly allocate their CDMA numbers, Optus dont have a block or
>anything

and if you DON'T want a random number, they invoke a fee if they feel so
inclined.

>> As always, YMMV.
>
>Your story doesnt ring true at all

Your problem.

[Michael]

"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:37:45 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
> >news:d5llo0dfa8bp7t2c11d2dddalpnf1h56nd (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
> >> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:38:47 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
> >> >news:4189cf2f$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
> >> >> budgie wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:52:12 +1100, "Frank" <frankxxx (AT) nowhere (DOT) com>
> >wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >>"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >>news:4188b745$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>>Which Telco has/will have the number 0434 xxx xxx?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>Optus
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > More precisely, the number block will have been originally
allocated
> >to
> >> >XXXX
> >> >> > carrier, but MNP means that is entirely academic in terms of any
> >> >individula
> >> >> > number within the block.
> >> >>
> >> >> How does one go about applying for a particular number? It doesn't
fall
> >> >> into the category of Gold, Silver or bronze
> >> >
> >> >You just ask the carrier to whom the number is allocated to, connect
up,
> >and
> >> >if necessary, port to the network you want
> >>
> >> and if the carrier is Tel$tra CDMA, the number is in their CDMA block,
and
> >you
> >> want a particular number that is currently unassigned for your
> >> about_to_be_connected BYO CDMA mobile .........
> >>
> >> don't hold your breath. Been there, done that. Bastards said "that
will
> >cost
> >> you $70 to have that number allocated"
> >>
> >> me: "how come? it's not a special number or anything"
> >>
> >> Tel$tra bastard/droid: "you asked for it, therefore it's special"
> >
> >Whatever are you talking about???
>
> Told it exactly as it happened. If that's not IAW how you think Tel$tra
> perform, toughtitties.

I think youve been smoking too many cones

> >Telstra did away with the $50 number selection fee before MNP started.
> >If you want a Telstra CDMA number connected on Telstra there is no
charge,
> >unless it is premium.
>
> Wrong, as usual. They seem to be able to invoke a fee on a whim.

The system is unable to charge such an alleged fee, on whim.
NUMSCH is programmed at $0.

> >Telstra randomly allocate their CDMA numbers, Optus dont have a block or
> >anything
>
> and if you DON'T want a random number, they invoke a fee if they feel so
> inclined.

Nah, just mindless paranoia as usual

> >> As always, YMMV.
> >
> >Your story doesnt ring true at all
>
> Your problem.

Ok, then Ill come right out and say it.

You are a liar.

[budgie]

On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:13:45 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

>
>"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
>news:t2noo0plsu0dvlj82kg5bhtrnq9u8u84s3 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
>> On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:37:45 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
>> >news:d5llo0dfa8bp7t2c11d2dddalpnf1h56nd (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
>> >> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:38:47 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
>> >> >news:4189cf2f$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
>> >> >> budgie wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:52:12 +1100, "Frank" <frankxxx (AT) nowhere (DOT) com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >>"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >>news:4188b745$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>>Which Telco has/will have the number 0434 xxx xxx?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>Optus
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > More precisely, the number block will have been originally
>allocated
>> >to
>> >> >XXXX
>> >> >> > carrier, but MNP means that is entirely academic in terms of any
>> >> >individula
>> >> >> > number within the block.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> How does one go about applying for a particular number? It doesn't
>fall
>> >> >> into the category of Gold, Silver or bronze
>> >> >
>> >> >You just ask the carrier to whom the number is allocated to, connect
>up,
>> >and
>> >> >if necessary, port to the network you want
>> >>
>> >> and if the carrier is Tel$tra CDMA, the number is in their CDMA block,
>and
>> >you
>> >> want a particular number that is currently unassigned for your
>> >> about_to_be_connected BYO CDMA mobile .........
>> >>
>> >> don't hold your breath. Been there, done that. Bastards said "that
>will
>> >cost
>> >> you $70 to have that number allocated"
>> >>
>> >> me: "how come? it's not a special number or anything"
>> >>
>> >> Tel$tra bastard/droid: "you asked for it, therefore it's special"
>> >
>> >Whatever are you talking about???
>>
>> Told it exactly as it happened. If that's not IAW how you think Tel$tra
>> perform, toughtitties.
>
>I think youve been smoking too many cones
>
>> >Telstra did away with the $50 number selection fee before MNP started.
>> >If you want a Telstra CDMA number connected on Telstra there is no
>charge,
>> >unless it is premium.
>>
>> Wrong, as usual. They seem to be able to invoke a fee on a whim.
>
>The system is unable to charge such an alleged fee, on whim.
>NUMSCH is programmed at $0.
>
>> >Telstra randomly allocate their CDMA numbers, Optus dont have a block or
>> >anything
>>
>> and if you DON'T want a random number, they invoke a fee if they feel so
>> inclined.
>
>Nah, just mindless paranoia as usual
>
>> >> As always, YMMV.
>> >
>> >Your story doesnt ring true at all
>>
>> Your problem.
>
>Ok, then Ill come right out and say it.
>
>You are a liar.

Whoohoo! There you go, shows how little you know about your beloved Tel$tra.

It happened, dunny cleaner. It happened as described.

[Michael]

"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:13:45 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
> >news:t2noo0plsu0dvlj82kg5bhtrnq9u8u84s3 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
> >> On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:37:45 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
> >> >news:d5llo0dfa8bp7t2c11d2dddalpnf1h56nd (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
> >> >> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:38:47 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:4189cf2f$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
> >> >> >> budgie wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:52:12 +1100, "Frank"
<frankxxx (AT) nowhere (DOT) com>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >>"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >>news:4188b745$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>>Which Telco has/will have the number 0434 xxx xxx?
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>Optus
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > More precisely, the number block will have been originally
> >allocated
> >> >to
> >> >> >XXXX
> >> >> >> > carrier, but MNP means that is entirely academic in terms of
any
> >> >> >individula
> >> >> >> > number within the block.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> How does one go about applying for a particular number? It
doesn't
> >fall
> >> >> >> into the category of Gold, Silver or bronze
> >> >> >
> >> >> >You just ask the carrier to whom the number is allocated to,
connect
> >up,
> >> >and
> >> >> >if necessary, port to the network you want
> >> >>
> >> >> and if the carrier is Tel$tra CDMA, the number is in their CDMA
block,
> >and
> >> >you
> >> >> want a particular number that is currently unassigned for your
> >> >> about_to_be_connected BYO CDMA mobile .........
> >> >>
> >> >> don't hold your breath. Been there, done that. Bastards said "that
> >will
> >> >cost
> >> >> you $70 to have that number allocated"
> >> >>
> >> >> me: "how come? it's not a special number or anything"
> >> >>
> >> >> Tel$tra bastard/droid: "you asked for it, therefore it's special"
> >> >
> >> >Whatever are you talking about???
> >>
> >> Told it exactly as it happened. If that's not IAW how you think
Tel$tra
> >> perform, toughtitties.
> >
> >I think youve been smoking too many cones
> >
> >> >Telstra did away with the $50 number selection fee before MNP started.
> >> >If you want a Telstra CDMA number connected on Telstra there is no
> >charge,
> >> >unless it is premium.
> >>
> >> Wrong, as usual. They seem to be able to invoke a fee on a whim.
> >
> >The system is unable to charge such an alleged fee, on whim.
> >NUMSCH is programmed at $0.
> >
> >> >Telstra randomly allocate their CDMA numbers, Optus dont have a block
or
> >> >anything
> >>
> >> and if you DON'T want a random number, they invoke a fee if they feel
so
> >> inclined.
> >
> >Nah, just mindless paranoia as usual
> >
> >> >> As always, YMMV.
> >> >
> >> >Your story doesnt ring true at all
> >>
> >> Your problem.
> >
> >Ok, then Ill come right out and say it.
> >
> >You are a liar.
>
> Whoohoo! There you go, shows how little you know about your beloved
Tel$tra.
>
> It happened, dunny cleaner. It happened as described.

Look, no doubt it did happen. One wonders where and when though

[budgie]

On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 06:48:35 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

>
>"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
>news:kd9ro0dufnsc3n4ms2287uu98djq41psgn (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
>> On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:13:45 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
>> >news:t2noo0plsu0dvlj82kg5bhtrnq9u8u84s3 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
>> >> On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:37:45 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
>> >> >news:d5llo0dfa8bp7t2c11d2dddalpnf1h56nd (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
>> >> >> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:38:47 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
>wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:4189cf2f$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
>> >> >> >> budgie wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:52:12 +1100, "Frank"
><frankxxx (AT) nowhere (DOT) com>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >>"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >>news:4188b745$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>>Which Telco has/will have the number 0434 xxx xxx?
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>Optus
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > More precisely, the number block will have been originally
>> >allocated
>> >> >to
>> >> >> >XXXX
>> >> >> >> > carrier, but MNP means that is entirely academic in terms of
>any
>> >> >> >individula
>> >> >> >> > number within the block.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> How does one go about applying for a particular number? It
>doesn't
>> >fall
>> >> >> >> into the category of Gold, Silver or bronze
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >You just ask the carrier to whom the number is allocated to,
>connect
>> >up,
>> >> >and
>> >> >> >if necessary, port to the network you want
>> >> >>
>> >> >> and if the carrier is Tel$tra CDMA, the number is in their CDMA
>block,
>> >and
>> >> >you
>> >> >> want a particular number that is currently unassigned for your
>> >> >> about_to_be_connected BYO CDMA mobile .........
>> >> >>
>> >> >> don't hold your breath. Been there, done that. Bastards said "that
>> >will
>> >> >cost
>> >> >> you $70 to have that number allocated"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> me: "how come? it's not a special number or anything"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Tel$tra bastard/droid: "you asked for it, therefore it's special"
>> >> >
>> >> >Whatever are you talking about???
>> >>
>> >> Told it exactly as it happened. If that's not IAW how you think
>Tel$tra
>> >> perform, toughtitties.
>> >
>> >I think youve been smoking too many cones
>> >
>> >> >Telstra did away with the $50 number selection fee before MNP started.
>> >> >If you want a Telstra CDMA number connected on Telstra there is no
>> >charge,
>> >> >unless it is premium.
>> >>
>> >> Wrong, as usual. They seem to be able to invoke a fee on a whim.
>> >
>> >The system is unable to charge such an alleged fee, on whim.
>> >NUMSCH is programmed at $0.
>> >
>> >> >Telstra randomly allocate their CDMA numbers, Optus dont have a block
>or
>> >> >anything
>> >>
>> >> and if you DON'T want a random number, they invoke a fee if they feel
>so
>> >> inclined.
>> >
>> >Nah, just mindless paranoia as usual
>> >
>> >> >> As always, YMMV.
>> >> >
>> >> >Your story doesnt ring true at all
>> >>
>> >> Your problem.
>> >
>> >Ok, then Ill come right out and say it.
>> >
>> >You are a liar.
>>
>> Whoohoo! There you go, shows how little you know about your beloved
>Tel$tra.
>>
>> It happened, dunny cleaner. It happened as described.
>
>Look, no doubt it did happen.

Bit of a change from calling me a liar.

> One wonders where and when though

It happened. Late March 2004. Where? Where IS a telephone conversation?
Shite, I was ringing Tel$tra from Perth. B party could have been anywhere -
Melburg, Bangalore (no accent, aussie). Was it YOU Mikey?

Asked for the unused 042x with the same last six as my GSM. Nothing special
otherwise about the six digits - no pairs/sequences/anything.

[Smoky Pork]

"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:2fsro0l75f075re19vtq3qcvko2bgrlctn (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
> On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 06:48:35 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
(snip)

> >> >> >> >> >>news:4188b745$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>>Which Telco has/will have the number 0434 xxx xxx?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Optus
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > More precisely, the number block will have been originally
> >> >allocated
> >> >> >to
> >> >> >> >XXXX
> >> >> >> >> > carrier, but MNP means that is entirely academic in terms of
> >any
> >> >> >> >individula
> >> >> >> >> > number within the block.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> How does one go about applying for a particular number? It
> >doesn't
> >> >fall
> >> >> >> >> into the category of Gold, Silver or bronze
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >You just ask the carrier to whom the number is allocated to,
> >connect
> >> >up,
> >> >> >and
> >> >> >> >if necessary, port to the network you want
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> and if the carrier is Tel$tra CDMA, the number is in their CDMA
> >block,
> >> >and
> >> >> >you
> >> >> >> want a particular number that is currently unassigned for your
> >> >> >> about_to_be_connected BYO CDMA mobile .........
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> don't hold your breath. Been there, done that. Bastards said
"that
> >> >will
> >> >> >cost
> >> >> >> you $70 to have that number allocated"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> me: "how come? it's not a special number or anything"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Tel$tra bastard/droid: "you asked for it, therefore it's
special"
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Whatever are you talking about???
> >> >>
> >> >> Told it exactly as it happened. If that's not IAW how you think
> >Tel$tra
> >> >> perform, toughtitties.
> >> >
> >> >I think youve been smoking too many cones
> >> >
> >> >> >Telstra did away with the $50 number selection fee before MNP
started.
> >> >> >If you want a Telstra CDMA number connected on Telstra there is no
> >> >charge,
> >> >> >unless it is premium.
> >> >>
> >> >> Wrong, as usual. They seem to be able to invoke a fee on a whim.
> >> >
> >> >The system is unable to charge such an alleged fee, on whim.
> >> >NUMSCH is programmed at $0.
> >> >
> >> >> >Telstra randomly allocate their CDMA numbers, Optus dont have a
block
> >or
> >> >> >anything
> >> >>
> >> >> and if you DON'T want a random number, they invoke a fee if they
feel
> >so
> >> >> inclined.
> >> >
> >> >Nah, just mindless paranoia as usual
> >> >
> >> >> >> As always, YMMV.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Your story doesnt ring true at all
> >> >>
> >> >> Your problem.
> >> >
> >> >Ok, then Ill come right out and say it.
> >> >
> >> >You are a liar.
> >>
> >> Whoohoo! There you go, shows how little you know about your beloved
> >Tel$tra.
> >>
> >> It happened, dunny cleaner. It happened as described.
> >
> >Look, no doubt it did happen.
>
> Bit of a change from calling me a liar.
>
> > One wonders where and when though
>
> It happened. Late March 2004. Where? Where IS a telephone conversation?
> Shite, I was ringing Tel$tra from Perth. B party could have been
anywhere -
> Melburg, Bangalore (no accent, aussie). Was it YOU Mikey?
>
> Asked for the unused 042x with the same last six as my GSM. Nothing
special
> otherwise about the six digits - no pairs/sequences/anything.

Mikey knows a bit more than you about Telstra number allocations and I've
got more hands on experience than Mike.
For starters, there's no $70 fee for any preferred number requested by a
customer, only $100,$200 and $400 for premiums, CDMA or GSM.
I doubt your story budgie, and I wouldn't be surprised if you were really in
a store at the time, and you were talking about the work of some dodgy
dealer trying to get some easy money out of you. I hope that wasn't the
case. I hope you're not a troll either budgie.

[Michael]

"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:2fsro0l75f075re19vtq3qcvko2bgrlctn (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
> On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 06:48:35 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
> >news:kd9ro0dufnsc3n4ms2287uu98djq41psgn (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
> >> On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:13:45 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
> >> >news:t2noo0plsu0dvlj82kg5bhtrnq9u8u84s3 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
> >> >> On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:37:45 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> >"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
> >> >> >news:d5llo0dfa8bp7t2c11d2dddalpnf1h56nd (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
> >> >> >> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:38:47 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
> >wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >news:4189cf2f$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
> >> >> >> >> budgie wrote:
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:52:12 +1100, "Frank"
> ><frankxxx (AT) nowhere (DOT) com>
> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >>"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
> >> >> >> >> >>news:4188b745$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>>Which Telco has/will have the number 0434 xxx xxx?
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>Optus
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > More precisely, the number block will have been originally
> >> >allocated
> >> >> >to
> >> >> >> >XXXX
> >> >> >> >> > carrier, but MNP means that is entirely academic in terms of
> >any
> >> >> >> >individula
> >> >> >> >> > number within the block.
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> How does one go about applying for a particular number? It
> >doesn't
> >> >fall
> >> >> >> >> into the category of Gold, Silver or bronze
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >You just ask the carrier to whom the number is allocated to,
> >connect
> >> >up,
> >> >> >and
> >> >> >> >if necessary, port to the network you want
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> and if the carrier is Tel$tra CDMA, the number is in their CDMA
> >block,
> >> >and
> >> >> >you
> >> >> >> want a particular number that is currently unassigned for your
> >> >> >> about_to_be_connected BYO CDMA mobile .........
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> don't hold your breath. Been there, done that. Bastards said
"that
> >> >will
> >> >> >cost
> >> >> >> you $70 to have that number allocated"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> me: "how come? it's not a special number or anything"
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Tel$tra bastard/droid: "you asked for it, therefore it's
special"
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Whatever are you talking about???
> >> >>
> >> >> Told it exactly as it happened. If that's not IAW how you think
> >Tel$tra
> >> >> perform, toughtitties.
> >> >
> >> >I think youve been smoking too many cones
> >> >
> >> >> >Telstra did away with the $50 number selection fee before MNP
started.
> >> >> >If you want a Telstra CDMA number connected on Telstra there is no
> >> >charge,
> >> >> >unless it is premium.
> >> >>
> >> >> Wrong, as usual. They seem to be able to invoke a fee on a whim.
> >> >
> >> >The system is unable to charge such an alleged fee, on whim.
> >> >NUMSCH is programmed at $0.
> >> >
> >> >> >Telstra randomly allocate their CDMA numbers, Optus dont have a
block
> >or
> >> >> >anything
> >> >>
> >> >> and if you DON'T want a random number, they invoke a fee if they
feel
> >so
> >> >> inclined.
> >> >
> >> >Nah, just mindless paranoia as usual
> >> >
> >> >> >> As always, YMMV.
> >> >> >
> >> >> >Your story doesnt ring true at all
> >> >>
> >> >> Your problem.
> >> >
> >> >Ok, then Ill come right out and say it.
> >> >
> >> >You are a liar.
> >>
> >> Whoohoo! There you go, shows how little you know about your beloved
> >Tel$tra.
> >>
> >> It happened, dunny cleaner. It happened as described.
> >
> >Look, no doubt it did happen.
>
> Bit of a change from calling me a liar.
>
> > One wonders where and when though
>
> It happened. Late March 2004. Where? Where IS a telephone conversation?
> Shite, I was ringing Tel$tra from Perth. B party could have been
anywhere -
> Melburg, Bangalore (no accent, aussie). Was it YOU Mikey?

Doubtful. Maybe I had the random number generator running . . .

> Asked for the unused 042x with the same last six as my GSM. Nothing
special
> otherwise about the six digits - no pairs/sequences/anything.

You will be pleased to know its $0 if there is nothing special about the
number

[Michael]

"Smoky Pork" <tarakan_68 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:41909b47 (AT) news (DOT) comindico.com.au...
>
> "budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
> news:2fsro0l75f075re19vtq3qcvko2bgrlctn (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
> > On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 06:48:35 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
> (snip)
>
> > >> >> >> >> >>news:4188b745$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >>>Which Telco has/will have the number 0434 xxx xxx?
> > >> >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> >>Optus
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >> > More precisely, the number block will have been originally
> > >> >allocated
> > >> >> >to
> > >> >> >> >XXXX
> > >> >> >> >> > carrier, but MNP means that is entirely academic in terms
of
> > >any
> > >> >> >> >individula
> > >> >> >> >> > number within the block.
> > >> >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> >> How does one go about applying for a particular number? It
> > >doesn't
> > >> >fall
> > >> >> >> >> into the category of Gold, Silver or bronze
> > >> >> >> >
> > >> >> >> >You just ask the carrier to whom the number is allocated to,
> > >connect
> > >> >up,
> > >> >> >and
> > >> >> >> >if necessary, port to the network you want
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> and if the carrier is Tel$tra CDMA, the number is in their CDMA
> > >block,
> > >> >and
> > >> >> >you
> > >> >> >> want a particular number that is currently unassigned for your
> > >> >> >> about_to_be_connected BYO CDMA mobile .........
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> don't hold your breath. Been there, done that. Bastards said
> "that
> > >> >will
> > >> >> >cost
> > >> >> >> you $70 to have that number allocated"
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> me: "how come? it's not a special number or anything"
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Tel$tra bastard/droid: "you asked for it, therefore it's
> special"
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Whatever are you talking about???
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Told it exactly as it happened. If that's not IAW how you think
> > >Tel$tra
> > >> >> perform, toughtitties.
> > >> >
> > >> >I think youve been smoking too many cones
> > >> >
> > >> >> >Telstra did away with the $50 number selection fee before MNP
> started.
> > >> >> >If you want a Telstra CDMA number connected on Telstra there is
no
> > >> >charge,
> > >> >> >unless it is premium.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Wrong, as usual. They seem to be able to invoke a fee on a whim.
> > >> >
> > >> >The system is unable to charge such an alleged fee, on whim.
> > >> >NUMSCH is programmed at $0.
> > >> >
> > >> >> >Telstra randomly allocate their CDMA numbers, Optus dont have a
> block
> > >or
> > >> >> >anything
> > >> >>
> > >> >> and if you DON'T want a random number, they invoke a fee if they
> feel
> > >so
> > >> >> inclined.
> > >> >
> > >> >Nah, just mindless paranoia as usual
> > >> >
> > >> >> >> As always, YMMV.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >Your story doesnt ring true at all
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Your problem.
> > >> >
> > >> >Ok, then Ill come right out and say it.
> > >> >
> > >> >You are a liar.
> > >>
> > >> Whoohoo! There you go, shows how little you know about your beloved
> > >Tel$tra.
> > >>
> > >> It happened, dunny cleaner. It happened as described.
> > >
> > >Look, no doubt it did happen.
> >
> > Bit of a change from calling me a liar.
> >
> > > One wonders where and when though
> >
> > It happened. Late March 2004. Where? Where IS a telephone
conversation?
> > Shite, I was ringing Tel$tra from Perth. B party could have been
> anywhere -
> > Melburg, Bangalore (no accent, aussie). Was it YOU Mikey?
> >
> > Asked for the unused 042x with the same last six as my GSM. Nothing
> special
> > otherwise about the six digits - no pairs/sequences/anything.
>
> Mikey knows a bit more than you about Telstra number allocations and I've
> got more hands on experience than Mike.

Heh, you would be surprised

> For starters, there's no $70 fee for any preferred number requested by a
> customer, only $100,$200 and $400 for premiums, CDMA or GSM.
> I doubt your story budgie, and I wouldn't be surprised if you were really
in
> a store at the time, and you were talking about the work of some dodgy
> dealer trying to get some easy money out of you. I hope that wasn't the
> case. I hope you're not a troll either budgie.

Nah he's not a troll, he was probably quoted bogus info from a wanker who
didnt know what he was talking about

>
>
>
>

[budgie]

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 11:26:45 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

>
>"Smoky Pork" <tarakan_68 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
>news:41909b47 (AT) news (DOT) comindico.com.au...
>>
>> "budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
>> news:2fsro0l75f075re19vtq3qcvko2bgrlctn (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
>> > On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 06:48:35 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>> (snip)
>>
>> > >> >> >> >> >>news:4188b745$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
>> > >> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >>>Which Telco has/will have the number 0434 xxx xxx?
>> > >> >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> >>Optus
>> > >> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> >> > More precisely, the number block will have been originally
>> > >> >allocated
>> > >> >> >to
>> > >> >> >> >XXXX
>> > >> >> >> >> > carrier, but MNP means that is entirely academic in terms
>of
>> > >any
>> > >> >> >> >individula
>> > >> >> >> >> > number within the block.
>> > >> >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> >> How does one go about applying for a particular number? It
>> > >doesn't
>> > >> >fall
>> > >> >> >> >> into the category of Gold, Silver or bronze
>> > >> >> >> >
>> > >> >> >> >You just ask the carrier to whom the number is allocated to,
>> > >connect
>> > >> >up,
>> > >> >> >and
>> > >> >> >> >if necessary, port to the network you want
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> and if the carrier is Tel$tra CDMA, the number is in their CDMA
>> > >block,
>> > >> >and
>> > >> >> >you
>> > >> >> >> want a particular number that is currently unassigned for your
>> > >> >> >> about_to_be_connected BYO CDMA mobile .........
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> don't hold your breath. Been there, done that. Bastards said
>> "that
>> > >> >will
>> > >> >> >cost
>> > >> >> >> you $70 to have that number allocated"
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> me: "how come? it's not a special number or anything"
>> > >> >> >>
>> > >> >> >> Tel$tra bastard/droid: "you asked for it, therefore it's
>> special"
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >Whatever are you talking about???
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Told it exactly as it happened. If that's not IAW how you think
>> > >Tel$tra
>> > >> >> perform, toughtitties.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >I think youve been smoking too many cones
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> >Telstra did away with the $50 number selection fee before MNP
>> started.
>> > >> >> >If you want a Telstra CDMA number connected on Telstra there is
>no
>> > >> >charge,
>> > >> >> >unless it is premium.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Wrong, as usual. They seem to be able to invoke a fee on a whim.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >The system is unable to charge such an alleged fee, on whim.
>> > >> >NUMSCH is programmed at $0.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> >Telstra randomly allocate their CDMA numbers, Optus dont have a
>> block
>> > >or
>> > >> >> >anything
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> and if you DON'T want a random number, they invoke a fee if they
>> feel
>> > >so
>> > >> >> inclined.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Nah, just mindless paranoia as usual
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> >> As always, YMMV.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> >Your story doesnt ring true at all
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Your problem.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >Ok, then Ill come right out and say it.
>> > >> >
>> > >> >You are a liar.
>> > >>
>> > >> Whoohoo! There you go, shows how little you know about your beloved
>> > >Tel$tra.
>> > >>
>> > >> It happened, dunny cleaner. It happened as described.
>> > >
>> > >Look, no doubt it did happen.
>> >
>> > Bit of a change from calling me a liar.
>> >
>> > > One wonders where and when though
>> >
>> > It happened. Late March 2004. Where? Where IS a telephone
>conversation?
>> > Shite, I was ringing Tel$tra from Perth. B party could have been
>> anywhere -
>> > Melburg, Bangalore (no accent, aussie). Was it YOU Mikey?
>> >
>> > Asked for the unused 042x with the same last six as my GSM. Nothing
>> special
>> > otherwise about the six digits - no pairs/sequences/anything.
>>
>> Mikey knows a bit more than you about Telstra number allocations and I've
>> got more hands on experience than Mike.

And your point is?

>Heh, you would be surprised
>
>> For starters, there's no $70 fee for any preferred number requested by a
>> customer, only $100,$200 and $400 for premiums, CDMA or GSM.
>> I doubt your story budgie, and I wouldn't be surprised if you were really
>in
>> a store at the time, and you were talking about the work of some dodgy
>> dealer trying to get some easy money out of you. I hope that wasn't the
>> case. I hope you're not a troll either budgie.
>
>Nah he's not a troll, he was probably quoted bogus info from a wanker who
>didnt know what he was talking about

Tel$tra obviously don't screen the wankers out when they employ phone droids,
obviously.

[budgie]

On Tue, 09 Nov 2004 11:11:39 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

>
>"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
>news:2fsro0l75f075re19vtq3qcvko2bgrlctn (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
>> On Sun, 07 Nov 2004 06:48:35 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
>> >news:kd9ro0dufnsc3n4ms2287uu98djq41psgn (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
>> >> On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:13:45 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
>> >> >news:t2noo0plsu0dvlj82kg5bhtrnq9u8u84s3 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
>> >> >> On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 09:37:45 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
>wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >news:d5llo0dfa8bp7t2c11d2dddalpnf1h56nd (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
>> >> >> >> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 08:38:47 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com>
>> >wrote:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >news:4189cf2f$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
>> >> >> >> >> budgie wrote:
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 21:52:12 +1100, "Frank"
>> ><frankxxx (AT) nowhere (DOT) com>
>> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >>"Dave A" <baseball (AT) internode (DOT) on.net> wrote in message
>> >> >> >> >> >>news:4188b745$1 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net...
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>>Which Telco has/will have the number 0434 xxx xxx?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Optus
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> > More precisely, the number block will have been originally
>> >> >allocated
>> >> >> >to
>> >> >> >> >XXXX
>> >> >> >> >> > carrier, but MNP means that is entirely academic in terms of
>> >any
>> >> >> >> >individula
>> >> >> >> >> > number within the block.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> How does one go about applying for a particular number? It
>> >doesn't
>> >> >fall
>> >> >> >> >> into the category of Gold, Silver or bronze
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >You just ask the carrier to whom the number is allocated to,
>> >connect
>> >> >up,
>> >> >> >and
>> >> >> >> >if necessary, port to the network you want
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> and if the carrier is Tel$tra CDMA, the number is in their CDMA
>> >block,
>> >> >and
>> >> >> >you
>> >> >> >> want a particular number that is currently unassigned for your
>> >> >> >> about_to_be_connected BYO CDMA mobile .........
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> don't hold your breath. Been there, done that. Bastards said
>"that
>> >> >will
>> >> >> >cost
>> >> >> >> you $70 to have that number allocated"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> me: "how come? it's not a special number or anything"
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Tel$tra bastard/droid: "you asked for it, therefore it's
>special"
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Whatever are you talking about???
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Told it exactly as it happened. If that's not IAW how you think
>> >Tel$tra
>> >> >> perform, toughtitties.
>> >> >
>> >> >I think youve been smoking too many cones
>> >> >
>> >> >> >Telstra did away with the $50 number selection fee before MNP
>started.
>> >> >> >If you want a Telstra CDMA number connected on Telstra there is no
>> >> >charge,
>> >> >> >unless it is premium.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Wrong, as usual. They seem to be able to invoke a fee on a whim.
>> >> >
>> >> >The system is unable to charge such an alleged fee, on whim.
>> >> >NUMSCH is programmed at $0.
>> >> >
>> >> >> >Telstra randomly allocate their CDMA numbers, Optus dont have a
>block
>> >or
>> >> >> >anything
>> >> >>
>> >> >> and if you DON'T want a random number, they invoke a fee if they
>feel
>> >so
>> >> >> inclined.
>> >> >
>> >> >Nah, just mindless paranoia as usual
>> >> >
>> >> >> >> As always, YMMV.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Your story doesnt ring true at all
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Your problem.
>> >> >
>> >> >Ok, then Ill come right out and say it.
>> >> >
>> >> >You are a liar.
>> >>
>> >> Whoohoo! There you go, shows how little you know about your beloved
>> >Tel$tra.
>> >>
>> >> It happened, dunny cleaner. It happened as described.
>> >
>> >Look, no doubt it did happen.
>>
>> Bit of a change from calling me a liar.
>>
>> > One wonders where and when though
>>
>> It happened. Late March 2004. Where? Where IS a telephone conversation?
>> Shite, I was ringing Tel$tra from Perth. B party could have been
>anywhere -
>> Melburg, Bangalore (no accent, aussie). Was it YOU Mikey?
>
>Doubtful. Maybe I had the random number generator running . . .
>
>> Asked for the unused 042x with the same last six as my GSM. Nothing
>special
>> otherwise about the six digits - no pairs/sequences/anything.
>
>You will be pleased to know its $0 if there is nothing special about the
>number

Maybe I'll just have to try them next week ....

[Michael]

"budgie" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:gag3p052oam087mhb7ncg82ju4sfkoj7td (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
> >You will be pleased to know its $0 if there is nothing special about the
> >number
>
> Maybe I'll just have to try them next week ....

You should have more success.