best carrier for text/smser?

[Mr Rip Curl]

Charlie Wong <willwasteyou (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:<qgnrp0p3t88firi7qcdbosft4v6504p9hi (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>...
> On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:06:49 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> >iSIM prepaid is pretty good with 15c sms
>
> Not bad if you like paying 35¢ for International SMS. Same SMS on
> Orange is 22¢.
>
> At least with Orange you can reast easy knowing that they have a habit
> of grandfathering old plans - once you have a plan they don't change
> the rates.
>
> In 5 years of monitoring Orange, they've only changed one rate, on one
> plan. They increased the cost of untimed local calls on the "Orange
> One" and "Handset 2+" plans from 16¢ to 18¢.

Voda the same. I just gave up an old rate for one of their new buckets
but previously been on same historic rate for about nine years (no
connection fees, cheap text, etc) with the only change being GST

[Brendon]

"Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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>
> "Brendon" <no (AT) way (DOT) man> wrote in message
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> > "Rod Speed" <rod_speed (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
> > news:308161F2u2nqqU1 (AT) uni-berlin (DOT) de...
> > >
> > > Mr Rob <robertstephenson (AT) iinet (DOT) net.au> wrote in message
> > > news:419ecd1b$0$25786$5a62ac22 (AT) per-qv1-newsreader-01 (DOT) iinet.net.au...
> > >
> > > > what network do orange use?
> > >
> > > Their own in Sydney and Melburg
> >
> > ...and Newcastle/Lower Hunter and the Central Coast and the Blue
Mountains
> > and Wollongong and Werribee and Geelong and...
>
> Werribee = Melbourne

Maybe, but I'm not from Melburg.

Newcastle/Maitland, Gosford and The Gong aint part of Sydney though.

[Michael]

"Charlie Wong" <willwasteyou (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 12:49:55 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> >Why would anyone think that Orange CDMA roam onto Telstra GSM?
>
> Your average consumer isn't up with the "lingo".

No lingo, its the basics

[Michael]

"Mr Rip Curl" <mrripcurl (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.au> wrote in message
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> Charlie Wong <willwasteyou (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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> > On Fri, 19 Nov 2004 10:06:49 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
> >
> > >iSIM prepaid is pretty good with 15c sms
> >
> > Not bad if you like paying 35¢ for International SMS. Same SMS on
> > Orange is 22¢.
> >
> > At least with Orange you can reast easy knowing that they have a habit
> > of grandfathering old plans - once you have a plan they don't change
> > the rates.
> >
> > In 5 years of monitoring Orange, they've only changed one rate, on one
> > plan. They increased the cost of untimed local calls on the "Orange
> > One" and "Handset 2+" plans from 16¢ to 18¢.
>
> Voda the same. I just gave up an old rate for one of their new buckets
> but previously been on same historic rate for about nine years (no
> connection fees, cheap text, etc) with the only change being GST

Almost all carriers are the same, including Telstra

[Brendon]

"Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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>
> "Charlie Wong" <willwasteyou (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
> news:hfiup0tt3heafsa8130hdjrhiju6obto0s (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
> > On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 12:49:55 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
> >
> > >Why would anyone think that Orange CDMA roam onto Telstra GSM?
> >
> > Your average consumer isn't up with the "lingo".
>
> No lingo, its the basics

The basics for the average consumer: It's a phone, I ring people on it.

I submit that your average consumer with no interest in mobiles other than
using them and paying the bill dosnt give a shit about the name of the
technology in which it operates, which networks have roaming agreements with
each other, and which phone types can or can't talk to which network types.

Even if said average consumer knew the name of the technology, they know it
as Digital or GSM (mostly the term used by the masses is Digital) and CDMA,
but even then they would have no idea that a CDMA phone can not roam to a
GSM network and even less of an idea that Orange is a CDMA network (Telstra
use the term CDMA when referring to the network, Orange don't).

[Charlie Wong]

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 15:39:30 +1100, "Brendon" <no (AT) way (DOT) man> wrote:

>Telstra use the term CDMA when referring to the network

I notice that Telstra recently (again) dropped using "CDMA" after the
model name in print ads. I guess that CDMA was scaring too many
customers.

[Charlie Wong]

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 03:34:48 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

>Almost all carriers are the same, including Telstra

I didn't say they weren't.

[Michael]

"Charlie Wong" <willwasteyou (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 03:34:48 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> >Almost all carriers are the same, including Telstra
>
> I didn't say they weren't.

Settle Wong, no one's trying to put words (or anything else) into your mouth
too much bathsuck,jpg i think

[Michael]

"Brendon" <no (AT) way (DOT) man> wrote in message
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> "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
> news:q1Und.43541$K7.18510 (AT) news-server (DOT) bigpond.net.au...
> >
> > "Charlie Wong" <willwasteyou (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
> > news:hfiup0tt3heafsa8130hdjrhiju6obto0s (AT) 4ax (DOT) com...
> > > On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 12:49:55 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >Why would anyone think that Orange CDMA roam onto Telstra GSM?
> > >
> > > Your average consumer isn't up with the "lingo".
> >
> > No lingo, its the basics
>
> The basics for the average consumer: It's a phone, I ring people on it.

Your network type is extremely basic

> using them and paying the bill dosnt give a shit about the name of the
> technology in which it operates, which networks have roaming agreements
with
> each other, and which phone types can or can't talk to which network
types.

Crapshit. Consumers always want to know where the phone works, and that is
controlled largely by roaming agreements

> Even if said average consumer knew the name of the technology, they know
it
> as Digital or GSM (mostly the term used by the masses is Digital) and
CDMA,
> but even then they would have no idea that a CDMA phone can not roam to a
> GSM network and even less of an idea that Orange is a CDMA network
(Telstra
> use the term CDMA when referring to the network, Orange don't).

Orange's problem
>
>

[Charlie Wong]

On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 05:55:38 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:

>Settle Wong, no one's trying to put words (or anything else) into your mouth
>too much bathsuck,jpg i think

Not enough perhaps?

[Michael]

"Charlie Wong" <willwasteyou (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 05:55:38 GMT, "Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote:
>
> >Settle Wong, no one's trying to put words (or anything else) into your
mouth
> >too much bathsuck,jpg i think
>
> Not enough perhaps?

thats quite possible :-)

[Brendon]

"Michael" <michael (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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> Your network type is extremely basic

They might know that it's a 'digital'or 'CDMA' but they are just terms used
because they are told. They have no idea of how they actually work or the
compatability between them.

> Crapshit. Consumers always want to know where the phone works, and that is
> controlled largely by roaming agreements

Yeah, the provider provides maps or a website or a customer service line...

[Brendon]

"Martin Taylor" <mjpt57 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.au> wrote in message
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> I would imagine that if you plonked the average consumer down in front
> of a PC and got them to read through this newsgroup, they'd probably
> think, "Who gives a fuck about all this shit that these pricks are on
> about?" and would most likely mutter something about getting a life....

Bingo.
We are in here talking about it like we do because we have a greater
interest in the subject.

[Mr Rob]

Yep, here i am asking a question about plan/rates, i know what
gsm/cdma/cdma1x/3g etc technologies are, I even work for telstra..
I still think u guys need to get out more :)

cheers
rob


"Martin Taylor" <mjpt57 (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.au> wrote in message
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> Brendon said....
>
> > Even if said average consumer knew the name of the technology, they know
> > it as Digital or GSM (mostly the term used by the masses is Digital) and
> > CDMA, but even then they would have no idea that a CDMA phone can not
> > roam to a GSM network
>
> Nor do they need to know. All they need to know is if it will suit their
> needs, and that's the role of the sales person who's flogging them the
> phone to give them that advice.
>
> Of course, it's good consumer advice to research your needs before you
> go out and buy it.
>
> I would imagine that if you plonked the average consumer down in front
> of a PC and got them to read through this newsgroup, they'd probably
> think, "Who gives a fuck about all this shit that these pricks are on
> about?" and would most likely mutter something about getting a life....
>
>
> --
> Support bacteria. They're the only culture some people have.

[Peter]

The best for text is vodofone red sim when you top up with $50 , you get 500
free text for two months

[John Unleaded Smith]

Mr Rob wrote:

> my other half uses about 200sms a month but only $15 calls. whats the best
> deal going these days?
>
> cheers guys
>
> rob
>

Vodafone Red Sim. TXT'er Plan probably.