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Whytoi
21-11-2004, 08:39 AM
This may be odd and seemed to be against the physics of it...
A number of times I've noted that the incoming voice quality would be
very poor with sound cutting in and out. Each of these episodes would
happen in the open under rather windy conditions. Shielding the
microphone does not seem to make a difference. And I can't blame the
location as they are along the harbour in the inner west where the
voice quality is excellent once I am in a sheltered area.
Has anyone else experienced something similar? Can it be a handset
problem? Or something to do with the network?
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Rod Speed
21-11-2004, 09:55 AM
Whytoi whytoi (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:211120040839252703%whytoi (AT) hotmail (DOT) com...
> This may be odd and seemed to be against the physics of it...
> A number of times I've noted that the incoming voice quality would
> be very poor with sound cutting in and out. Each of these episodes
> would happen in the open under rather windy conditions. Shielding
> the microphone does not seem to make a difference. And I can't
> blame the location as they are along the harbour in the inner west
> where the voice quality is excellent once I am in a sheltered area.
> Has anyone else experienced something similar?
Nope, but then I dont use it much in that situation.
> Can it be a handset problem?
Very likely.
> Or something to do with the network?
Unlikely because the same network would be being
used when you're in a sheltered area normally.
Whytoi wrote:
> This may be odd and seemed to be against the physics of it...
>
> A number of times I've noted that the incoming voice quality would be
> very poor with sound cutting in and out. Each of these episodes would
> happen in the open under rather windy conditions. Shielding the
> microphone does not seem to make a difference. And I can't blame the
> location as they are along the harbour in the inner west where the
> voice quality is excellent once I am in a sheltered area.
I think it's the wind affecting the microphone - even though as you say
it's been shielded.
What phone? Don't some mobiles have noise cancelling microphones? (I
think the T39M from S/E had one) - they would be quite likely to get
confused as to what was background and foreground noise when it's very
windy.
Whytoi
21-11-2004, 06:01 PM
In article <419fc493 (AT) duster (DOT) adelaide.on.net>, Mark wrote:
> > This may be odd and seemed to be against the physics of it...
> >
> > A number of times I've noted that the incoming voice quality would be
> > very poor with sound cutting in and out. Each of these episodes would
> > happen in the open under rather windy conditions. Shielding the
> > microphone does not seem to make a difference. And I can't blame the
> > location as they are along the harbour in the inner west where the
> > voice quality is excellent once I am in a sheltered area.
> >
> > Has anyone else experienced something similar? Can it be a handset
> > problem? Or something to do with the network?
>
> perhaps a loose antenna in the transmitter?
>
> wouldn't expect wind to affect radio waves at all.
I can't agree more. And that's the odd thing that I couldn't work out.
And unfortunately no. My T68i doesn't have an external antenna. Thanks
for the suggestion.
I am starting to wonder if it's related somehow to the noise reduction
voice circuit. But buggar if I know what I am talking about here.
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Whytoi
21-11-2004, 06:02 PM
In article <419fd33f$0$27991$afc38c87 (AT) news (DOT) optusnet.com.au>, Mal
<mal_murray (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
> I think it's the wind affecting the microphone - even though as you say
> it's been shielded.
>
> What phone? Don't some mobiles have noise cancelling microphones? (I
> think the T39M from S/E had one) - they would be quite likely to get
> confused as to what was background and foreground noise when it's very
> windy.
Yes, I am starting to think this is the root cause. My phone indeed is
a T68i.
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RdRRR
21-11-2004, 06:17 PM
On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:39:25 GMT, Whytoi <whytoi (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:
>This may be odd and seemed to be against the physics of it...
>
>A number of times I've noted that the incoming voice quality would be
>very poor with sound cutting in and out. Each of these episodes would
>happen in the open under rather windy conditions. Shielding the
>microphone does not seem to make a difference. And I can't blame the
>location as they are along the harbour in the inner west where the
>voice quality is excellent once I am in a sheltered area.
>
>Has anyone else experienced something similar? Can it be a handset
>problem? Or something to do with the network?
>--
Don't know the phone, but there may be another noise canceling
microphone somewhere less obvious???
Tom N
21-11-2004, 06:30 PM
Whytoi wrote:
> Mal wrote:
>
>> I think it's the wind affecting the microphone - even though as you say
>> it's been shielded.
>>
>> What phone? Don't some mobiles have noise cancelling microphones? (I
>> think the T39M from S/E had one) - they would be quite likely to get
>> confused as to what was background and foreground noise when it's very
>> windy.
>
> Yes, I am starting to think this is the root cause. My phone indeed is
> a T68i.
Can you mute the microphone while on a call?
Whytoi
22-11-2004, 06:30 PM
In article <Xns95A8BC4F4A9E8ndt601946x (AT) 130 (DOT) 133.1.4>, Tom N
<me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote:
> Whytoi wrote:
>
> > Mal wrote:
> >
> >> I think it's the wind affecting the microphone - even though as you say
> >> it's been shielded.
> >>
> >> What phone? Don't some mobiles have noise cancelling microphones? (I
> >> think the T39M from S/E had one) - they would be quite likely to get
> >> confused as to what was background and foreground noise when it's very
> >> windy.
> >
> > Yes, I am starting to think this is the root cause. My phone indeed is
> > a T68i.
>
> Can you mute the microphone while on a call?
I guess it's something to consider and try out when I am next in the
same situation. But it'll be hard on the natural flow of conversation.
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Tom N
03-12-2004, 11:46 AM
Whytoi wrote:
> In article <Xns95A8BC4F4A9E8ndt601946x@130.133.1.4>, Tom N
> <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> Whytoi wrote:
>>
>> > Mal wrote:
>> >
>> >> I think it's the wind affecting the microphone - even though as
>> >> you say it's been shielded.
>> >>
>> >> What phone? Don't some mobiles have noise cancelling microphones?
>> >> (I think the T39M from S/E had one) - they would be quite likely
>> >> to get confused as to what was background and foreground noise
>> >> when it's very windy.
>> >
>> > Yes, I am starting to think this is the root cause. My phone indeed
>> > is a T68i.
>>
>> Can you mute the microphone while on a call?
>
> I guess it's something to consider and try out when I am next in the
> same situation. But it'll be hard on the natural flow of conversation.
Not suggesting it is a solution - just a method to determine if the microphone is the problem.
Whytoi
05-12-2004, 10:13 AM
In article <Xns95B4777F169B6ndt601946x@130.133.1.4>, Tom N
<me@privacy.net> wrote:
> Not suggesting it is a solution - just a method to determine if the microphone is the problem.
It would appear that it is the wind and mic's and sound processing
software's sensitivity to it in the great outdoor.
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