Download Casey's single before it hits the shelves.

[Bigpond Music]

************************************************** ********
Big Hit.

Download Casey's single before it hits the shelves.

The only place you can get it RIGHT NOW is BIGPOND MUSIC!
************************************************** *******

That's right, the biggest news in music all year is right here!
Click here at http://www.caseydonovan.com to get it now. You don't even
have to pay a cent today, by choosing to put it on your BigPond bill!


* BigPond Music will be the only place you can get the Australian Idol
winner's digital single until midnight, Wednesday 24 November.


(TM) BigPond is a trademark in Australia of Telstra Corporation Limited
ABN 33 051 775 556.

Visit our support section at http://info.bigpond.com/ for questions
about products, services or technical issues.

[Sarch]

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:01:54 +1000, Bigpond Music wrote:

> Download Casey's single before it hits the shelves.
>
> The only place you can get it RIGHT NOW is BIGPOND MUSIC!

Bigpond spamming in aus.music - they must be desperate.

Kids, wait for the CD single. It'll cost $4.95, have CD quality audio, come
in an attractive jewel case with printed artwork and not be DRM-encumbered.

> That's right, the biggest news in music all year is right here!
> Click here at http://www.caseydonovan.com to get it now. You don't even
> have to pay a cent today, by choosing to put it on your BigPond bill!

Woohoo! Free porn!

*sigh*

Sarch

[Anthony Horan]

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:09:14 +1100, Sarch wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:01:54 +1000, Bigpond Music wrote:
>
>> Download Casey's single before it hits the shelves.
>>
>> The only place you can get it RIGHT NOW is BIGPOND MUSIC!
>
> Bigpond spamming in aus.music - they must be desperate.

Telstra would stoop to just about anything these days. Just ask us victims
of their relentless telephone marketing.

> Kids, wait for the CD single. It'll cost $4.95, have CD quality audio, come
> in an attractive jewel case with printed artwork and not be DRM-encumbered.

Precisely.


- Anthony

[Anthony Horan]

Actually, looking at this more closely, it looks like a fake:

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 15:01:54 +1000, Bigpond Music wrote:

> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 0.9 (Macintosh/20041103)

What, Telstra not using Windows, and not using IE? Impossible!

> X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 203.219.30.87
> Message-ID: <41a2c443@dnews.tpgi.com.au>
> X-Trace: dnews.tpgi.com.au!tpg.com.au 1101186115 203.219.30.87 (23 Nov 2004 16:01:55 +1000)

A Bigpond message posted from TPG's news servers? Unlikely.

> That's right, the biggest news in music all year is right here!
> Click here at http://www.caseydonovan.com

After yesterday's controversy - second item on the TV news, no less - there
is absolutely no way even a Telstra droid would be dumb enough to post the
wrong URL...

> Visit our support section at http://info.bigpond.com/

A site which does not exist.

[_]

Anthony Horan wrote:
> After yesterday's controversy - second item on the TV news, no less - there
> is absolutely no way even a Telstra droid would be dumb enough to post the
> wrong URL...

But the actual music files are probably from a gay porn film soundtrack.

[Scottie]

> That's right, the biggest news in music all year is right here!
> Click here at http://www.caseydonovan.com

Nice website! I see she's going for a slightly different media image
than Guy Sebastian :)

[corks]

think i would sooner stick barbed wire up my arse, instead of listening to
that wailing bitch

--

cb250rs->gpx600r->xj650->fzs600->zx7r->900ss->zx636r->yzf750r->trx850


"Bigpond Music" <email@info.bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:41a2c443@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
> ************************************************** ********
> Big Hit.
>
> Download Casey's single before it hits the shelves.
>
> The only place you can get it RIGHT NOW is BIGPOND MUSIC!
> ************************************************** *******
>
> That's right, the biggest news in music all year is right here!
> Click here at http://www.caseydonovan.com to get it now. You don't even
> have to pay a cent today, by choosing to put it on your BigPond bill!
>
>
> * BigPond Music will be the only place you can get the Australian Idol
> winner's digital single until midnight, Wednesday 24 November.
>
>
> (TM) BigPond is a trademark in Australia of Telstra Corporation Limited
> ABN 33 051 775 556.
>
> Visit our support section at http://info.bigpond.com/ for questions
> about products, services or technical issues.
>

[Sarch]

On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:28:48 +1100, Anthony Horan wrote:

> Actually, looking at this more closely, it looks like a fake:

You never know, it could have been posted by one of Telstra's contracted
marketing companies.

> After yesterday's controversy - second item on the TV news, no less - there
> is absolutely no way even a Telstra droid would be dumb enough to post the
> wrong URL...

Two disturbing issues arose from this mess. 1) Bigpond redirected all
requests to the .com site to the .com.au site. 2) They actually lodged a
complaint with the ABA about the .com site's content. Apparently they
believe Australian censorship laws can take down sites hosted in countries
with real free speech.

More info at:
http://www.computerworld.com.au/index.php/id;1905678948;fp;16;fpid;0

Sarch

[Anthony Horan]

On Wed, 24 Nov 2004 13:59:52 +1100, Sarch wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:28:48 +1100, Anthony Horan wrote:
>
>> Actually, looking at this more closely, it looks like a fake:
>
> You never know, it could have been posted by one of Telstra's contracted
> marketing companies.

True, though I would have thought the first thing Telstra would have done
after the debacle hit on Monday morning would have been to contact their
marketeers and make sure they had the site right...

> Two disturbing issues arose from this mess. 1) Bigpond redirected all
> requests to the .com site to the .com.au site.

Only traffic on the Bigpond network, though - and how arrogant of Telstra
to lead the media to believe that they'd done this for *everyone*! Sure,
they've "protected" their own users, but maybe someone should tell them
that not everyone is stupid enough to use Bigpond.

The ethics practised by Telstra/Bigpond here are laughable, and perhaps the
best reason yet to give when people ask "why shouldn't I connect with
Bigpond?" And this quote, from the Computerworld article:

BigPond spokesman Craig Middleton said the emergency redirection of BigPond
subscribers had been done to protect young teenage minds from
"inappropriate or potentially offensive material".

"Protect young teenage minds"? Is Bigpond now the ISP equivalent of the
Howard government?

Incidentally, those who went looking will have noticed that the image of
the gay porn site shown repeatedly on the TV news is actually NOT what
those fragile "teenage minds" take in when they visit the site
inadvertently. No, instead, there's a front page that says:


Buy Adult Videos & DVDs Starring the First Gay Porn Superstar!
By clicking below, I certify that I am at least 18 years of age & wish to
shop for explicit adult gay videos and DVDs. I further state that materials
containing male-to-male sex do not offend me or the standards of the
community in which I live


Anyone who clicked on further and was then surprised to find gay porn
really deserves everything their non-functioning "teenage mind" gets :-)

> 2) They actually lodged a
> complaint with the ABA about the .com site's content. Apparently they
> believe Australian censorship laws can take down sites hosted in countries
> with real free speech.

I'm sure the ABA think they have some kind of power to do so, too, but we
all know they're completely toothless; otherwise Laws, Price et al would
have been off the radio airwaves long, long ago.

This is all pure comedy; unfortunately, the comedy genre in question is
farce.

- Anthony

[Greg Martin]

"Sarch" <sarch_usenet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:30ibpaF2udn23U1@uni-berlin.de...
> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:28:48 +1100, Anthony Horan wrote:
>
>> Actually, looking at this more closely, it looks like a fake:
>
> You never know, it could have been posted by one of Telstra's contracted
> marketing companies.
>
>> After yesterday's controversy - second item on the TV news, no less -
>> there
>> is absolutely no way even a Telstra droid would be dumb enough to post
>> the
>> wrong URL...
>
> Two disturbing issues arose from this mess. 1) Bigpond redirected all
> requests to the .com site to the .com.au site. 2) They actually lodged a
> complaint with the ABA about the .com site's content. Apparently they
> believe Australian censorship laws can take down sites hosted in countries
> with real free speech.
>

Well...

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutnick_v._Dow_Jones

It's actually not too far from the truth.

[Sarch]

On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 01:38:38 +1100, Greg Martin wrote:

> "Sarch" <sarch_usenet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:30ibpaF2udn23U1@uni-berlin.de...
>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:28:48 +1100, Anthony Horan wrote:
>>
>>> Actually, looking at this more closely, it looks like a fake:
>>
>> You never know, it could have been posted by one of Telstra's contracted
>> marketing companies.
>>
>>> After yesterday's controversy - second item on the TV news, no less -
>>> there
>>> is absolutely no way even a Telstra droid would be dumb enough to post
>>> the
>>> wrong URL...
>>
>> Two disturbing issues arose from this mess. 1) Bigpond redirected all
>> requests to the .com site to the .com.au site. 2) They actually lodged a
>> complaint with the ABA about the .com site's content. Apparently they
>> believe Australian censorship laws can take down sites hosted in countries
>> with real free speech.
>
> Well...
>
> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutnick_v._Dow_Jones
>
> It's actually not too far from the truth.

The Gutnick case dealt with defamation. There's certainly no defaming
happening with the Australian Idol incident. And there's no case of
cyber-squatting either since the .com site was registered in 1999
apparently.

Sarch

[Greg Martin]

"Sarch" <sarch_usenet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:30kha0F322ociU1@uni-berlin.de...
> On Thu, 25 Nov 2004 01:38:38 +1100, Greg Martin wrote:
>
>> "Sarch" <sarch_usenet@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:30ibpaF2udn23U1@uni-berlin.de...
>>> On Tue, 23 Nov 2004 16:28:48 +1100, Anthony Horan wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, looking at this more closely, it looks like a fake:
>>>
>>> You never know, it could have been posted by one of Telstra's contracted
>>> marketing companies.
>>>
>>>> After yesterday's controversy - second item on the TV news, no less -
>>>> there
>>>> is absolutely no way even a Telstra droid would be dumb enough to post
>>>> the
>>>> wrong URL...
>>>
>>> Two disturbing issues arose from this mess. 1) Bigpond redirected all
>>> requests to the .com site to the .com.au site. 2) They actually lodged a
>>> complaint with the ABA about the .com site's content. Apparently they
>>> believe Australian censorship laws can take down sites hosted in
>>> countries
>>> with real free speech.
>>
>> Well...
>>
>> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gutnick_v._Dow_Jones
>>
>> It's actually not too far from the truth.
>
> The Gutnick case dealt with defamation. There's certainly no defaming
> happening with the Australian Idol incident. And there's no case of
> cyber-squatting either since the .com site was registered in 1999
> apparently.
>

Maybe not about defo per se, but the implications of the Gutnick finding
with respect to the internet is potentially quite broad.