TV network watermarks

[Jonathan Wilson]

I think the real reason it is being done is mainly pressure from content
providers.
Content providers want this so that it is harder to record stuff off the TV
and distribute it.

Anyone else know any reasons why they use watermarks?

[Aaron]

"Jonathan Wilson" <jonwil@tpgi.com.au> wrote in message
news:41c6b207$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>I think the real reason it is being done is mainly pressure from content
>providers.
> Content providers want this so that it is harder to record stuff off the
> TV and distribute it.
>
> Anyone else know any reasons why they use watermarks?

So consumers with pay TV don't get confused between the channels

[Paul Dwerryhouse]

"Aaron" <cfc_24@bigpond.net.au> writes:

>So consumers with pay TV don't get confused between the channels

Aren't they smart enough to figure out what they are watching by looking
at the content?

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[BF]

Jonathan Wilson wrote:

> I think the real reason it is being done is mainly pressure from content
> providers.
> Content providers want this so that it is harder to record stuff off the
> TV and distribute it.
>



that won't stop someone downloading the episode.

if i wanted to see a show that hadn't aired yet, or that i'd missed, i
wouldn't care if it had the logo down the bottom.


> Anyone else know any reasons why they use watermarks?

[Jonathan Wilson]

> if i wanted to see a show that hadn't aired yet, or that i'd missed, i
> wouldn't care if it had the logo down the bottom.
But it does stop pirate outfits in asia producing bootlegs (especially the
really good "cant-tell-from-the-real-thing" bootlegs that I have heard about)

[Ho0htEe the nyght ow1]

"Jonathan Wilson" <jonwil@tpgi.com.au> wrote in message
news:41c6b207$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>I think the real reason it is being done is mainly pressure from content
>providers.
> Content providers want this so that it is harder to record stuff off the
> TV and distribute it.

It's not hard to distribute it though. It's fairly easy to remove the
watermark. There are programs that do exactly that.

>
> Anyone else know any reasons why they use watermarks?

[BF]

Jonathan Wilson wrote:

>> if i wanted to see a show that hadn't aired yet, or that i'd missed, i
>> wouldn't care if it had the logo down the bottom.
>
> But it does stop pirate outfits in asia producing bootlegs (especially
> the really good "cant-tell-from-the-real-thing" bootlegs that I have
> heard about)

of australian tv shows? why would they want to?

[Jock Strap]

Jonathan Wilson wrote:

> Anyone else know any reasons why they use watermarks?

I found it invaluable the other day when I had to retune my channels.

[AG Wolfe]

Jonathan Wilson wrote:

> I think the real reason it is being done is mainly pressure from content
> providers.
> Content providers want this so that it is harder to record stuff off the
> TV and distribute it.
>
> Anyone else know any reasons why they use watermarks?


Hi
cos that are lazy and 5 years behind in technology....
Telstra have available "invisible watermarking" for ages !!!!

cheers, A.

[Brissie]

On Mon, 20 Dec 2004 11:55:01 GMT, "Aaron" <cfc_24@bigpond.net.au>
wrote:

>
>"Jonathan Wilson" <jonwil@tpgi.com.au> wrote in message
>news:41c6b207$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>I think the real reason it is being done is mainly pressure from content
>>providers.
>> Content providers want this so that it is harder to record stuff off the
>> TV and distribute it.
>>
>> Anyone else know any reasons why they use watermarks?
>
>So consumers with pay TV don't get confused between the channels
>

That's the public reason, not the real reason

[Ho0htEe the nyght ow1]

"Jock Strap" <jock@strap.com> wrote in message
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> Jonathan Wilson wrote:
>
>> Anyone else know any reasons why they use watermarks?
>
> I found it invaluable the other day when I had to retune my channels.
>
Damn! You were lucky. Last time I had to retune I kept getting ads, which is
when they don't use the watermarks.

[ML]

>> if i wanted to see a show that hadn't aired yet, or that i'd missed, i
>> wouldn't care if it had the logo down the bottom.
> But it does stop pirate outfits in asia producing bootlegs (especially the
> really good "cant-tell-from-the-real-thing" bootlegs that I have heard
> about)

Lol, so THAT's why Dancing with the Stars - Australian Series 1 isn't
available on DVD in Malaysia.

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[elcu]

Jonathan Wilson wrote:
> I think the real reason it is being done is mainly pressure from content
> providers.
> Content providers want this so that it is harder to record stuff off the
> TV and distribute it.
>
> Anyone else know any reasons why they use watermarks?

Following American footsteps?

[GDS]

"BF" <BF@BF.com.au> wrote in message news:cq6gs4$kpa$1@lust.ihug.co.nz...
>
>
> Jonathan Wilson wrote:
>
>>> if i wanted to see a show that hadn't aired yet, or that i'd missed, i
>>> wouldn't care if it had the logo down the bottom.
>>
>> But it does stop pirate outfits in asia producing bootlegs (especially
>> the really good "cant-tell-from-the-real-thing" bootlegs that I have
>> heard about)
>
> of australian tv shows? why would they want to?
>

Frontline.
The Games.

Why would they not!

G.

[ML]

> Frontline.
> The Games.

They are both finally out on DVD (at least series 1)... So DVD-Rips would be
better than ABC.. Wait, ABC doesn't even watermark do they?

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[Darkfalz]

"Ho0htEe the nyght ow1" <mcgewkfhkfhgdfkfnmfdgslsl@6437439.org.de> wrote in
message news:Amzxd.81855$K7.22158@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> "Jonathan Wilson" <jonwil@tpgi.com.au> wrote in message
> news:41c6b207$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>I think the real reason it is being done is mainly pressure from content
>>providers.
>> Content providers want this so that it is harder to record stuff off the
>> TV and distribute it.
>
> It's not hard to distribute it though. It's fairly easy to remove the
> watermark. There are programs that do exactly that.

Well those logo removal things aren't perfect. They do a decent enough job
provided the logo is simple, but some ghosting and distortion is always left
of even the most transparent logos.

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[Ho0htEe the nyght ow1]

"ML" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message
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>> Frontline.
>> The Games.
>
> They are both finally out on DVD (at least series 1)... So DVD-Rips would
> be better than ABC.. Wait, ABC doesn't even watermark do they?
>
They can't afford to and there's no point. Who's going to pirate something
that's on the ABC?

> --
> main.luser [ML]
>
> Online DVD Rentals
> http://tinyurl.com/fbax
>

[Ho0htEe the nyght ow1]

"Darkfalz" <darkfalz.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Ho0htEe the nyght ow1" <mcgewkfhkfhgdfkfnmfdgslsl@6437439.org.de> wrote
> in message news:Amzxd.81855$K7.22158@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>
>> "Jonathan Wilson" <jonwil@tpgi.com.au> wrote in message
>> news:41c6b207$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>>I think the real reason it is being done is mainly pressure from content
>>>providers.
>>> Content providers want this so that it is harder to record stuff off the
>>> TV and distribute it.
>>
>> It's not hard to distribute it though. It's fairly easy to remove the
>> watermark. There are programs that do exactly that.
>
> Well those logo removal things aren't perfect. They do a decent enough job
> provided the logo is simple, but some ghosting and distortion is always
> left of even the most transparent logos.
>
But you can't make out the original watermark so they're effective.

[Andrew Bayley]

"ML" <no@thanks.com> wrote in message
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>> Frontline.
>> The Games.
>
> They are both finally out on DVD (at least series 1)... So DVD-Rips would
> be better than ABC.. Wait, ABC doesn't even watermark do they?

they will be next year apparently

[Darkfalz]

"Ho0htEe the nyght ow1" <mcgewkfhkfhgdfkfnmfdgslsl@6437439.org.de> wrote in
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>
> "Darkfalz" <darkfalz.usenet@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:32pr20F3nc9qcU1@individual.net...
>> "Ho0htEe the nyght ow1" <mcgewkfhkfhgdfkfnmfdgslsl@6437439.org.de> wrote
>> in message news:Amzxd.81855$K7.22158@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>>>
>>> "Jonathan Wilson" <jonwil@tpgi.com.au> wrote in message
>>> news:41c6b207$1@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
>>>>I think the real reason it is being done is mainly pressure from content
>>>>providers.
>>>> Content providers want this so that it is harder to record stuff off
>>>> the TV and distribute it.
>>>
>>> It's not hard to distribute it though. It's fairly easy to remove the
>>> watermark. There are programs that do exactly that.
>>
>> Well those logo removal things aren't perfect. They do a decent enough
>> job provided the logo is simple, but some ghosting and distortion is
>> always left of even the most transparent logos.
>>
> But you can't make out the original watermark so they're effective.

Who cares? When I do captures from telly I don't worry about removing the
watermark.