Re: att victims of cyberstalker bertie the bunyip - aka jeffrey morris formely of meath ireland <<< HELP for stalkers and victims

[PBSL]

jeffrey is stalking himself now

bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

"Bertie the Bunyip" <bertie_the_bunyip@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1104271275.881258.61150@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...

PBSL wrote:
> "Bertie the Bunyip" <Do@keep.trying> wrote in message
> news:cqn2tu$i9d$3@pita.alt.net...
> > "PBSL" <pbsoft_labs@yahoo.com>
> > sednews:Y86zd.87752$K7.45900@news-server.bigpond.net.au:
> >
> >>
> >> "Bertie the Bunyip" <Bw@haw.haw!> wrote in message
> >> news:cqholu$8il$2@pita.alt.net...
> >>> "PBSL" <pbsoft_labs@yahoo.com> sednews:eQBvd.72617$K7.37211@news-
> >>> server.bigpond.net.au:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "lameBert the Bunyip" <Do@keep.trying> wrote in message 100,003
> >>>>
> >>>> it will start to shrivel at 100,100
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> hmm, guess not.
> >>
> >> that maybe the cause of your netstalking, if your are not "normal"
> >> down there
> >> in the groin area
> >> but I can see how that would make you a sociopath
> >>
> >> I can't help much jeffrey , seek profesional help
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Bertie
> >>
> >>
> >> Jeffrey and other stalkers
> >> help is at hand
> >>
> >> go here
> >> www.fbi.gov
> >> www.mentalhealth.com
> >> www.yourlocalpolice.com
> >>
> >> trust them , they are your friends
> >>
> >> wow jeffrey , there's not much available, sorry
> >> maybe you can use that as part of your defense
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> victims of netstalker bertie the bunyip aka jeffrey morris go
here-
> >> http://www.4woman.gov/violence/stalking.cfm
> >> http://www.ifeminists.net/introduction/editorials/2003/0304.html
> >> http://www.baddteddy.com/stalkers/stalker.htm
> >> http://www.american-partisan.com/cols/mcelroy-1.htm
> >> http://www.ehow.com/how_18084_deal-with-stalker.html
> >> http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/ovc/help/stalk.htm
> >> http://www.stalkingvictims.com/destress/find.htm
> >> http://web.tampabay.rr.com/soshelp/links.htm
> >> http://www.esia.net/Common_Traits_of_Stalkers.htm
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> anyone wishing to know more about cyberstalkers like bertie the
bunyip
> >> aka jeffrey morris
> >> may find this info usefull
> >>
> >> http://gsulaw.gsu.edu/lawand/papers/su01/haleyj/
> >> http://www.stalkingvictims.com/resources/reading.htm
> >>
http://incestabuse.about.com/cs/restrainingorders/a/stopstalkers.htm
> >>
> >
> > Oh, BTW, can't wait for the army of my "victims" to come to your
aid.
> > Either you'll get along like a house on fire wiht them, or you'll
comit
> > suicide when you se what they're reall ylike and you realise that
you're
> > just the same, a k00k!
> >
> >
> > Win-win, really
>
> win what?
> I'm not playing any game
>
> Jeffrey, you fail to grasp that the main issue
> afaic your netstalking of Sylvia is the issue
> stop that and I'll just dissapear
>
> I'm not concerned about your general harrasment of netizens
> you can go back to being king of the kiddies
>
> but how a supposed mature ailine pilot
> gets his thrills from trolling on usenet
> I'm at a loss
>
> I always thought pilots were all kewl ppl
> and had great social lives
> "a girl in every port"
>
> there is NO WAY you have a girl anywhere with
> the amount of usenet posting you do

Me? I hardly use the computer at all.
You really aren´t all that bright are you Sylvia?
>
> a female just wont allow it
> it's as simple as that
> she'll make you choose "the pooter or me"
>

Which pretty much splains why you have no husband.

Well, that and your dried up old crack.
>
> anyway, back to your problem.....
>
> if you feel that you cannot resist the urges to stalk
> don't be disheartened
> your not the lone ranger
> you can't beat this on your own
> so you need help
>
> I found this site on google
> it has many links
> I'm sure you'll find something there
>
> btw victims of cyberstalkers like you jeffrey can
> also get help there
>
> good luck bert
>
>
> here is the link - it the one down below
> it should have a different colour font
>

Oow Should it?

You must have screwed it up..

>
>
> >>>>>>-------> http://bertie_the_bunyip.lamer.la/
> >>>>>><----------------<<<<<<<
>
> ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
>
> link is above , see it jeffrey?
>
> just move your mouse over it and left click
>
> ok?
>
> bye
>

You reckon?



Bertie

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

PBSL wrote:

> jeffrey is stalking himself now
> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

You're a very strange person.

rl
--
"The world is filled with evil, and there are two ways
to react. The first way is easy, and wrong. To accept
it. The second way is harder, but right. You fight it,
and help others who fight to endure." Sheherazade

[Sylvia Else]

PBSL wrote:
> jeffrey is stalking himself now
>
> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>

It also appears, for reasons I cannot fathom, that Bertie believes that
PBSL and I are one and the same person. Even a cursory consideration of
former postings would have revealed this to be highly improbable.

For example, do a google groups search for the subject "serving a
summons/supenea NSW", and you'll find the start of a thread that PBSL
posted long before I encountered Bertie, and in which thread I participated.

Or does someone want to credit me with having started that thread as
part of a long term plan to establish a credible alias, but only to
compromise it later for no readily apparent reason?

Sylvia.

[Glance]

Sylvia Else wrote:

>
>
> PBSL wrote:
>> jeffrey is stalking himself now
>>
>> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>>
>
> It also appears, for reasons I cannot fathom,

<snipped>

You are looking for a reason?**That*makes*an*assumption*about*the*poster .

[Gary L. Burnore]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:33:36 +1100, Sylvia Else
<sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:

>
>
>PBSL wrote:
>> jeffrey is stalking himself now
>>
>> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>>
>
>It also appears, for reasons I cannot fathom, that Bertie believes that
>PBSL and I are one and the same person. Even a cursory consideration of
>former postings would have revealed this to be highly improbable.
>
Perhaps it's for the same reason one of our abuse minions determined
that you and it were the same, sending something to it rather than to
you?

Interestingly enough, you both complained about the same thing at
about the same time using the same syntax. Odd, that.

Anyway, since you haven't reponded to it, I assume you either didn't
receive it or had nothing further to say about it.

[Peter J Ross]

On Wednesday 29 December, Sylvia Else wrote in alt.usenet.kooks:

> PBSL wrote:
>> jeffrey is stalking himself now
>>
>> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>>

> It also appears, for reasons I cannot fathom, that Bertie believes that
> PBSL and I are one and the same person. Even a cursory consideration of
> former postings would have revealed this to be highly improbable.

> For example, do a google groups search for the subject "serving a
> summons/supenea NSW", and you'll find the start of a thread that PBSL
> posted long before I encountered Bertie, and in which thread I participated.

> Or does someone want to credit me with having started that thread as
> part of a long term plan to establish a credible alias, but only to
> compromise it later for no readily apparent reason?

> Sylvia.

You take Usenet very seriously, don't you, Sylvis?

PJR :-)
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[PBSL]

"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
news:cqt6rl$36m$7@ljutefisk.databasix.com...
> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:33:36 +1100, Sylvia Else
> <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>PBSL wrote:
>>> jeffrey is stalking himself now
>>>
>>> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>>>
>>
>>It also appears, for reasons I cannot fathom, that Bertie believes that
>>PBSL and I are one and the same person. Even a cursory consideration of
>>former postings would have revealed this to be highly improbable.
>>
> Perhaps it's for the same reason one of our abuse minions determined
> that you and it were the same, sending something to it rather than to
> you?
>
> Interestingly enough, you both complained about the same thing at
> about the same time using the same syntax. Odd, that.
>
> Anyway, since you haven't reponded to it, I assume you either didn't
> receive it or had nothing further to say about it.
>
>

if your refering to the email from DataBasix Policy Management
abuse@popd.databasix.com to my email addy
addressed to Ms Else, what did you expect me to do , other than reply
to inform you that you sent a confidential abuse compaint email
to another person, namely me.

I mean how silly & irrisponsible is that?
Do yo always treat abuse complaints in this manner?
Don't you respect the privacy of others?
That was a blatent disregard and abuse of Ms Else's privacy
and I wouldnt be suprised if she took this further.

besides how can you morons think that an impetuous,testosterone pumped
illiterate like myslfe
and a calm, sophisticated & learned person like Ms Else are one
and the same?

your privacy policy at datbasix imho should read - we will respect your
privacy
except when we think that someone else is you , then we have the right to
send your private emails
to them , in the hope that we are correct, and we do not take kindly to
abuse except if that abuser
is bum-chums with our owner gary burnore, then we dont care what they do
and that includes cyberstalking.


also why would a so called responsible netizen (well I assume one has to be
responsible to
be an ISP in the USA) such as yourself mr burnore
feel the need to crosspost serious cyberstalking complaints to usenet kooks
and flonk NG's?

do you have any genuine clients at databasix or are they all trolls, just
curious?

do you confuse the admirable fight for the right to free speech online with
the unlawfull activity of cyberstalking

I hope not
coz bertie the bunyip was/is truly cyberstalking Ms Else
regardless of what you have been told

[Gary L. Burnore]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 04:12:26 GMT, "PBSL" <pbsoft_labs@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>news:cqt6rl$36m$7@ljutefisk.databasix.com...
>> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:33:36 +1100, Sylvia Else
>> <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>PBSL wrote:
>>>> jeffrey is stalking himself now
>>>>
>>>> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>>>>
>>>
>>>It also appears, for reasons I cannot fathom, that Bertie believes that
>>>PBSL and I are one and the same person. Even a cursory consideration of
>>>former postings would have revealed this to be highly improbable.
>>>
>> Perhaps it's for the same reason one of our abuse minions determined
>> that you and it were the same, sending something to it rather than to
>> you?
>>
>> Interestingly enough, you both complained about the same thing at
>> about the same time using the same syntax. Odd, that.
>>
>> Anyway, since you haven't reponded to it, I assume you either didn't
>> receive it or had nothing further to say about it.
>>
>>
>
>if your refering to the email from DataBasix Policy Management
> abuse@popd.databasix.com to my email addy
>addressed to Ms Else, what did you expect me to do , other than reply
>to inform you that you sent a confidential abuse compaint email
>to another person, namely me.

He sent YOUR complaint to you. Not hers. Funny, it's so confusing
even YOU can't get it right.

>
>I mean how silly & irrisponsible is that?

It's not at all silly. You made the complaint. Within it you were
complaining about a forgery of Ms Else. Ms Else made the same
complaint, only from another address (also not her own name>.

If you'd have specified a name other than PBSL, that name would have
been used instead of the one quoted in the complaint YOU sent.

>Do yo always treat abuse complaints in this manner?

What manner?

>Don't you respect the privacy of others?

You're confused, aren't you?

>That was a blatent disregard and abuse of Ms Else's privacy
>and I wouldnt be suprised if she took this further.

How, exactly, would it be a disregard of her privacy? YOU complained.
YOU used the monicer PBSL and put HER information in it. So it would
be YOU who disregarded her privacy, not DataBasix.

>
>besides how can you morons think that an impetuous,testosterone pumped
>illiterate like myslfe and a calm, sophisticated & learned person like Ms Else are one
>and the same?

I'm not sure what that has to do with it. You sent a complaint. In
it was her name.
>
>your privacy policy at datbasix imho should read - we will respect your
>privacy except when we think that someone else is you ,

You're grasping at straws now. You created the confusion by
complaining, apparently on her behalf.

>then we have the right to send your private emails to them ,

Only no one sent her emails to you. Only the one YOU sent. See how
easy it is to confuse you two? YOU can't even keep it straight.

>in the hope that we are correct,
>and we do not take kindly to abuse except if that abuser
>is bum-chums with our owner gary burnore, then we dont care what they do
>and that includes cyberstalking.

Bum-chums? Do the insults help you feel better about yourself?



>also why would a so called responsible netizen (well I assume one has to be
>responsible to be an ISP in the USA) such as yourself mr burnore
>feel the need to crosspost serious cyberstalking complaints to usenet kooks
>and flonk NG's?

First of all, your discussion was posted to alt.usenet.kooks, where I
read it. Secondly, serious cyberstalking complaints weren't
crossposted, at least not by me. If you don't want me to READ it,
don't post it there.

>do you have any genuine clients at databasix or are they all trolls, just
>curious?

Funny, you bitch about privacy and then want me to talk about our
customers?

>do you confuse the admirable fight for the right to free speech online with
>the unlawfull activity of cyberstalking

I've still not seen any evidence of cyberstalking. You made a
complaint about it, but then when someone from DataBasix asked you
about it, you got bent. She still hasn't provided any evidence to us
of it either.

>
>I hope not coz bertie the bunyip was/is truly cyberstalking Ms Else
>regardless of what you have been told

You and she are the only ones saying that there was cyberstalking.
Yet neither of you have provided any evidence of it. Now why would
those two facts be?

Again, to be clear. We didn't send your complaint to her and we
didn't send her complaint to you. They were BOTH about the same post,
they were BOTH sent at about the same time and neither was sent from
an address with an identifiable name, so the name of the apparent
"victim" was used.

[Sylvia Else]

Gary L. Burnore wrote:
> Perhaps it's for the same reason one of our abuse minions determined
> that you and it were the same, sending something to it rather than to
> you?
>
> Interestingly enough, you both complained about the same thing at
> about the same time using the same syntax. Odd, that.
>
> Anyway, since you haven't reponded to it, I assume you either didn't
> receive it or had nothing further to say about it.

If by "it", you mean the email that PBSL has mentioned in these terms:

"if your refering to the email from DataBasix Policy Management
abuse@popd.databasix.com to my email addy addressed to Ms Else, "

then it's hardly surprising that I haven't replied to it, since you
didn't send it to me.

If your abuse department thinks that there's something further that I
might be able to add to the investigation, then I suggest they contact
me at the address I gave them.

Sylvia.

[Sylvia Else]

Peter J Ross wrote:

> You take Usenet very seriously, don't you, Sylvis?

Depends on the NG. I take aus.legal very seriously.

Sylvia

[running with scissors]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 01:30:15 GMT, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
<rhondaleakirk@yahoo.com> wrote:

>PBSL wrote:
>
>> jeffrey is stalking himself now
>> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>
>You're a very strange person.
>
>rl


you should try paulie for strange.!

[PBSL]

"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
news:cqtd3t$sgf$2@ljutefisk.databasix.com...
> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 04:12:26 GMT, "PBSL" <pbsoft_labs@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>>news:cqt6rl$36m$7@ljutefisk.databasix.com...
>>> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:33:36 +1100, Sylvia Else
>>> <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>PBSL wrote:
>>>>> jeffrey is stalking himself now
>>>>>
>>>>> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It also appears, for reasons I cannot fathom, that Bertie believes that
>>>>PBSL and I are one and the same person. Even a cursory consideration of
>>>>former postings would have revealed this to be highly improbable.
>>>>
>>> Perhaps it's for the same reason one of our abuse minions determined
>>> that you and it were the same, sending something to it rather than to
>>> you?
>>>
>>> Interestingly enough, you both complained about the same thing at
>>> about the same time using the same syntax. Odd, that.
>>>
>>> Anyway, since you haven't reponded to it, I assume you either didn't
>>> receive it or had nothing further to say about it.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>if your refering to the email from DataBasix Policy Management
>> abuse@popd.databasix.com to my email addy
>>addressed to Ms Else, what did you expect me to do , other than reply
>>to inform you that you sent a confidential abuse compaint email
>>to another person, namely me.
>
> He sent YOUR complaint to you. Not hers. Funny, it's so confusing
> even YOU can't get it right.
>
>>
>>I mean how silly & irrisponsible is that?
>
> It's not at all silly. You made the complaint. Within it you were
> complaining about a forgery of Ms Else. Ms Else made the same
> complaint, only from another address (also not her own name>.
>

if I had made the complaint, then why was my original complaint
or part of it not quoted in the email that your company sent me?

the email I recieved from abuse@popd.databasix.com
was clearly an email sent to you from Ms Else
you even quoted her original email in it's entitety (or so it appeared)

would you like me to send it to you personally rather than
abuse@popd.databasix.com as there seems to be a problem
communicating between the ranks.

Consistant, I might add with what I have sen of your company up till now.


I was not involved, nor do I recall ever sending an email to
your abuse dept. in fact I dont recall EVER sending any
complaint email about anyone, anytime, I would have been tempted
to send bertie's isp a complaint email but it's not my style.
I confront my problems head-on.

This all started , from my perspective, when I asked bertie to stop
cyberstalking Ms Else
after clearly seeing the stalking happen on usenet.


> If you'd have specified a name other than PBSL, that name would have
> been used instead of the one quoted in the complaint YOU sent.
>

this is irrelevant as I never sent you an email, I sir, can use what ever
handle I choose.


>>Do yo always treat abuse complaints in this manner?
>
> What manner?


the manner described my me, i.e Ms Else sends an email to
abuse@popd.databasix.com
someone at datbasix, it never used a name
, but identified as
" I'm merely one of the flunkies who gets stuck answering support and abuse
email on weekends"
replied to my pvt yahoo email account, quoting Ms Else's original complaint
adding -
and I quote

"Ms. Else, We're still trying to track some things down for the Police. Can
you tell us if you have any more of these?

Regards,

DataBasix Policy Management"


how is that a reply to me?

I suggest you get your act together.


I replied with-
and I quote....


"uhm..
you have sent this to the wrong person, I am not Ms
Else"

then the "flunkie" replied apologising for the mistake and saying that he
was acting on direct orders from you, indicating that he would not have made
that mistake had he been left to investigate the complaint on
his own.

Why did you feel the need to get personally involved?
as this is not the norm, from what I ascertained with what was at hand.

>>Don't you respect the privacy of others?
>
> You're confused, aren't you?


no sir, the confusion and subsequencial foul-up is yours and yours alone

>
>>That was a blatent disregard and abuse of Ms Else's privacy
>>and I wouldnt be suprised if she took this further.
>
> How, exactly, would it be a disregard of her privacy? YOU complained.
> YOU used the monicer PBSL and put HER information in it. So it would
> be YOU who disregarded her privacy, not DataBasix.
>


no there is no "YOU" , the correspondence was between abuse at databasic,
and Ms Else
and it seems things would have went smoothly till you got involved




>>
>>besides how can you morons think that an impetuous,testosterone pumped
>>illiterate like myslfe and a calm, sophisticated & learned person like Ms
>>Else are one
>>and the same?
>
> I'm not sure what that has to do with it. You sent a complaint. In
> it was her name.
>>

paleeese......

enough BS



>>your privacy policy at datbasix imho should read - we will respect your
>>privacy except when we think that someone else is you ,
>
> You're grasping at straws now. You created the confusion by
> complaining, apparently on her behalf.
>
>>then we have the right to send your private emails to them ,
>
> Only no one sent her emails to you. Only the one YOU sent. See how
> easy it is to confuse you two? YOU can't even keep it straight.
>
>>in the hope that we are correct,
>>and we do not take kindly to abuse except if that abuser
>>is bum-chums with our owner gary burnore, then we dont care what they do
>>and that includes cyberstalking.
>
> Bum-chums? Do the insults help you feel better about yourself?
>

no Mr burnore, "bum-chum" is not derogatory, it implies friendship - very
close friendship in fact
you americans have a similar term- "close at the hip"



if you felt insulted by misinterpretuing my wording, that's your problem


>
>>also why would a so called responsible netizen (well I assume one has to
>>be
>>responsible to be an ISP in the USA) such as yourself mr burnore
>>feel the need to crosspost serious cyberstalking complaints to usenet
>>kooks
>>and flonk NG's?
>
> First of all, your discussion was posted to alt.usenet.kooks, where I
> read it. Secondly, serious cyberstalking complaints weren't
> crossposted, at least not by me. If you don't want me to READ it,
> don't post it there.
>
>>do you have any genuine clients at databasix or are they all trolls, just
>>curious?
>
> Funny, you bitch about privacy and then want me to talk about our
> customers?

ever heard of a rhetorical question?

get real! as if i even expected a reply

>
>>do you confuse the admirable fight for the right to free speech online
>>with
>>the unlawfull activity of cyberstalking
>
> I've still not seen any evidence of cyberstalking.

that is not for you or me to be concerned with
if Ms Else decides to take the matter further, then it will be up to
the courts to worry about evidence

I say bertie stalked Ms Else
it was clear as day to me

to simlify- Ms Else commented on something bertie said
on aad , and in correcting him , she must of hurt his male pride
bertie retorted with vulgar insults.
(some of the language used is considered assualt , in Ms Else's jurisdiction
criminal at the very least)

steadily increasing them

the stalking occired in when bertie folowed MsElse to her
usenet "home" aus.legal and continued the harrasment campaign there

Ms Else asked bertie to stop, even indicated that she was prepared to leave
a.a.d if bertie
promised to leave aus.legal

a civilised approach did not work
do they ever do with stalkers?


this sir, is text book stalking


You made a
> complaint about it, but then when someone from DataBasix asked you
> about it, you got bent. She still hasn't provided any evidence to us
> of it either.
>

>>
>>I hope not coz bertie the bunyip was/is truly cyberstalking Ms Else
>>regardless of what you have been told
>
> You and she are the only ones saying that there was cyberstalking.
> Yet neither of you have provided any evidence of it. Now why would
> those two facts be?
>

1 complaint and 1 stalker are all that is required
this situation has a bit more- evidence and at least 1 witness
are you saying that is not so?

> Again, to be clear. We didn't send your complaint to her and we
> didn't send her complaint to you.

yes you did
I can prove it I have the email's you sent me
I foward them to Ms Else
I dont recall sending you or your company any email

if so pls prove it
and I will gladly apologise

but the important issue here is the stalking of Ms Else by bertie

this can easily end afaic , by bertie leaving Ms Else alone
I even believe Ms Else indicated the same
not sure if things have esculated since Ms Else said same,
I have no control over that, or anything Ms Else does

I did get involved because Ms Else kindly helped me with a legal problem
and I jumpeed in head 1st.
I have never experienced anything like this before, bertie has a clear
history
of upsetting people on usenet



They were BOTH about the same post,

there is no BOTH , all I can see is the original email Ms Else sent to you
which you , un betraying her confidence , sent to me.

> they were BOTH sent at about the same time and neither was sent from
> an address with an identifiable name, so the name of the apparent
> "victim" was used.
>
>

[khobar]

"running with scissors" <aabbcc_running_with_scissors@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:kej4t05jmk50k7e7flcbl4eepg8bnr1l8b@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 01:30:15 GMT, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
> <rhondaleakirk@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >PBSL wrote:
> >
> >> jeffrey is stalking himself now
> >> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
> >
> >You're a very strange person.
> >
> >rl
>
>
> you should try paulie for strange.!

You should try cutting back on the stupid pills.

Paul Nixon

[Sylvia Else]

Gary L. Burnore wrote:
> Again, to be clear. We didn't send your complaint to her and we
> didn't send her complaint to you. They were BOTH about the same post,
> they were BOTH sent at about the same time and neither was sent from
> an address with an identifiable name, so the name of the apparent
> "victim" was used.
>
>

If they weren't from an address with an identifiable name, then they
were not from me.

Sylvia.

[Gary L. Burnore]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 06:36:22 GMT, "PBSL" <pbsoft_labs@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>
>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>news:cqtd3t$sgf$2@ljutefisk.databasix.com...
>> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 04:12:26 GMT, "PBSL" <pbsoft_labs@yahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Gary L. Burnore" <gburnore@databasix.com> wrote in message
>>>news:cqt6rl$36m$7@ljutefisk.databasix.com...
>>>> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 13:33:36 +1100, Sylvia Else
>>>> <sylvia@not.at.this.address> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>PBSL wrote:
>>>>>> jeffrey is stalking himself now
>>>>>>
>>>>>> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>It also appears, for reasons I cannot fathom, that Bertie believes that
>>>>>PBSL and I are one and the same person. Even a cursory consideration of
>>>>>former postings would have revealed this to be highly improbable.
>>>>>
>>>> Perhaps it's for the same reason one of our abuse minions determined
>>>> that you and it were the same, sending something to it rather than to
>>>> you?
>>>>
>>>> Interestingly enough, you both complained about the same thing at
>>>> about the same time using the same syntax. Odd, that.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, since you haven't reponded to it, I assume you either didn't
>>>> receive it or had nothing further to say about it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>if your refering to the email from DataBasix Policy Management
>>> abuse@popd.databasix.com to my email addy
>>>addressed to Ms Else, what did you expect me to do , other than reply
>>>to inform you that you sent a confidential abuse compaint email
>>>to another person, namely me.
>>
>> He sent YOUR complaint to you. Not hers. Funny, it's so confusing
>> even YOU can't get it right.
>>
>>>
>>>I mean how silly & irrisponsible is that?
>>
>> It's not at all silly. You made the complaint. Within it you were
>> complaining about a forgery of Ms Else. Ms Else made the same
>> complaint, only from another address (also not her own name>.
>>
>
>if I had made the complaint, then why was my original complaint
>or part of it not quoted in the email that your company sent me?
>
It was.
>the email I recieved from abuse@popd.databasix.com
> was clearly an email sent to you from Ms Else
>you even quoted her original email in it's entitety (or so it appeared)
>

Ms Else never sent an email as Ms Else. That's where the confusion
came in.
>would you like me to send it to you personally rather than
>abuse@popd.databasix.com as there seems to be a problem
>communicating between the ranks.
>
>Consistant, I might add with what I have sen of your company up till now.
>
>
>I was not involved, nor do I recall ever sending an email to
>your abuse dept. in fact I dont recall EVER sending any
>complaint email about anyone, anytime, I would have been tempted
>to send bertie's isp a complaint email but it's not my style.
>I confront my problems head-on.
>
Then someone's forging you?


>This all started , from my perspective, when I asked bertie to stop
>cyberstalking Ms Else
>after clearly seeing the stalking happen on usenet.
>

Posting followups to someone in USEnet isn't stalking.
>
>> If you'd have specified a name other than PBSL, that name would have
>> been used instead of the one quoted in the complaint YOU sent.
>>
>
>this is irrelevant as I never sent you an email, I sir, can use what ever
>handle I choose.

Then you were forged.

>> I've still not seen any evidence of cyberstalking.
>
>that is not for you or me to be concerned with
>if Ms Else decides to take the matter further, then it will be up to
>the courts to worry about evidence

True enough.

>
>the stalking occired in when bertie folowed MsElse to her
>usenet "home" aus.legal and continued the harrasment campaign there

As you said, that would be for a court to decide but I doubt they'd
find discussions in an ope forum to be stalking.

>
>Ms Else asked bertie to stop, even indicated that she was prepared to leave
>a.a.d if bertie
>promised to leave aus.legal
>
>a civilised approach did not work
>do they ever do with stalkers?
>
>
>this sir, is text book stalking

As ou said, that would be for a court to decide.

>yes you did
>I can prove it I have the email's you sent me
>I foward them to Ms Else
>I dont recall sending you or your company any email
>
>if so pls prove it
>and I will gladly apologise
>

I think you should email me privately and we'll get to the bottom of
how e came to be in posession of mails with your email address. No
apology necessary.

[Meat Plow]

On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 02:58:31 +0000, Peter J Ross wrote:

> On Wednesday 29 December, Sylvia Else wrote in alt.usenet.kooks:
>
>> PBSL wrote:
>>> jeffrey is stalking himself now
>>>
>>> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>>>
>>>
>> It also appears, for reasons I cannot fathom, that Bertie believes that
>> PBSL and I are one and the same person. Even a cursory consideration of
>> former postings would have revealed this to be highly improbable.
>
>> For example, do a google groups search for the subject "serving a
>> summons/supenea NSW", and you'll find the start of a thread that PBSL
>> posted long before I encountered Bertie, and in which thread I
>> participated.
>
>> Or does someone want to credit me with having started that thread as
>> part of a long term plan to establish a credible alias, but only to
>> compromise it later for no readily apparent reason?
>
>> Sylvia.
>
> You take Usenet very seriously, don't you, Sylvis?
>

Makes you kind of wonder how she got along before she found her way here?!?!?!?

[Rich Ahrens]

Meat Plow wrote:

> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 02:58:31 +0000, Peter J Ross wrote:
>
>
>>On Wednesday 29 December, Sylvia Else wrote in alt.usenet.kooks:
>>
>>
>>>PBSL wrote:
>>>
>>>> jeffrey is stalking himself now
>>>>
>>>>bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>It also appears, for reasons I cannot fathom, that Bertie believes that
>>>PBSL and I are one and the same person. Even a cursory consideration of
>>>former postings would have revealed this to be highly improbable.
>>
>>>For example, do a google groups search for the subject "serving a
>>>summons/supenea NSW", and you'll find the start of a thread that PBSL
>>>posted long before I encountered Bertie, and in which thread I
>>>participated.
>>
>>>Or does someone want to credit me with having started that thread as
>>>part of a long term plan to establish a credible alias, but only to
>>>compromise it later for no readily apparent reason?
>>
>>>Sylvia.
>>
>>You take Usenet very seriously, don't you, Sylvis?
>>
>
>
> Makes you kind of wonder how she got along before she found her way here?!?!?!?

Probably by pontificating to passersby on streetcorners.

[running with scissors]

On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 23:41:14 -0700, "khobar" <noone@nowhere.com>
wrote:

>"running with scissors" <aabbcc_running_with_scissors@hotmail.com> wrote in
>message news:kej4t05jmk50k7e7flcbl4eepg8bnr1l8b@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 01:30:15 GMT, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
>> <rhondaleakirk@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>> >PBSL wrote:
>> >
>> >> jeffrey is stalking himself now
>> >> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>> >
>> >You're a very strange person.
>> >
>> >rl
>>
>>
>> you should try paulie for strange.!
>
>You should try cutting back on the stupid pills.
>
>Paul Nixon
>

says a complete fucking retard who cant tell the difference between
shit and shinola.

[khobar]

"running with scissors" <aabbcc_running_with_scissors@hotmail.com> wrote in
message news:35u5t0t3rdf8ss2eplar6ljr8av8oocp46@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 23:41:14 -0700, "khobar" <noone@nowhere.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"running with scissors" <aabbcc_running_with_scissors@hotmail.com> wrote
in
> >message news:kej4t05jmk50k7e7flcbl4eepg8bnr1l8b@4ax.com...
> >> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 01:30:15 GMT, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
> >> <rhondaleakirk@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >PBSL wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> jeffrey is stalking himself now
> >> >> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
> >> >
> >> >You're a very strange person.
> >> >
> >> >rl
> >>
> >>
> >> you should try paulie for strange.!
> >
> >You should try cutting back on the stupid pills.
> >
> >Paul Nixon
> >
>
> says a complete fucking retard who cant tell the difference between
> shit and shinola.

You really should try cutting back on the stupid pills, Patrick.

Paul Nixon

[Rhonda Lea Kirk]

khobar wrote:
> "running with scissors"
> <aabbcc_running_with_scissors@hotmail.com> wrote in
> message
> news:35u5t0t3rdf8ss2eplar6ljr8av8oocp46@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 23:41:14 -0700, "khobar"
>> <noone@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "running with scissors"
>>> <aabbcc_running_with_scissors@hotmail.com> wrote in
>>> message
>>> news:kej4t05jmk50k7e7flcbl4eepg8bnr1l8b@4ax.com...
>>>> On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 01:30:15 GMT, "Rhonda Lea
>>>> Kirk"
>>>> <rhondaleakirk@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> PBSL wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> jeffrey is stalking himself now
>>>>>> bwhahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
>>>>>
>>>>> You're a very strange person.
>>>>>
>>>>> rl
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> you should try paulie for strange.!
>>>
>>> You should try cutting back on the stupid pills.
>>>
>>> Paul Nixon
>>>
>>
>> says a complete fucking retard who cant tell the
>> difference between shit and shinola.
>
> You really should try cutting back on the stupid
> pills,
> Patrick.

Who is Patrick?

rl
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