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Fran
09-01-2005, 07:03 PM
Jack Verginner said:

I ****EN HATE THIS EPISODE


Fran responded:

It's a laugh. Sheesh ... lighten up!

FRAN

tealou
09-01-2005, 07:13 PM
Fran wrote:
> Jack Verginner said:
>
> I ****EN HATE THIS EPISODE
>
>
> Fran responded:
>
> It's a laugh. Sheesh ... lighten up!
>
> FRAN

I think its just deliberately irreverent... they do this all the time
with everything else.

Isnt the mark of an Aussie to be able to laugh at ourselves? Or is it
that we find it amusing when they make fun of America/Canada/UK/Japan,
but we can't take it?

slatconsulting
09-01-2005, 07:13 PM
franbarlow@mail.com (Fran) wrote in
news:95f168b0.0501082254.378265a2@posting.google.c om:

> Jack Verginner said:
>
> I ****EN HATE THIS EPISODE
>
>
> Fran responded:
>
> It's a laugh. Sheesh ... lighten up!
>
> FRAN


Team America is hot on Jack's trail.

|-|erc
09-01-2005, 08:03 PM
"slatconsulting" <ojai@yahoo.com> wrote in
>
> > Jack Verginner said:
> >
> > I ****EN HATE THIS EPISODE
> >
> >
> > Fran responded:
> >
> > It's a laugh. Sheesh ... lighten up!
> >
> > FRAN
>
>
> Team America is hot on Jack's trail.

It might have been entertaining to Yanks, the target audience.
But sometimes maintaining a low profile is good.

It was an OK ep, a little degrading but that's not the point, the point
is it could've been really good, instead of a bunch of farmers and the
only civil thing here is the American Embassy. Who on earth uses an
embassy in Aus?

It was more like NZ, there's much more 'australian' characteristics to portray,
like our OWN continent without crappy neighbours to get infected from, they
don't even have their own continent, draw the borders to Canada and
Mexico and they are only slightly bigger than Aus, just because they're prolific
breeders and spend their national income making special effects, yanks think they
can mesmerize everyone that they're king

Herc

Jaspar
09-01-2005, 08:43 PM
"tealou" <tealou@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:41e0d6e5$0$21099$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> Fran wrote:
>> Jack Verginner said:
>>
>> I ****EN HATE THIS EPISODE
>>
>>
>> Fran responded:
>>
>> It's a laugh. Sheesh ... lighten up!
>>
>> FRAN
>
> I think its just deliberately irreverent... they do this all the time with
> everything else.
>
> Isnt the mark of an Aussie to be able to laugh at ourselves? Or is it that
> we find it amusing when they make fun of America/Canada/UK/Japan, but we
> can't take it?

The show is laughing at Americans who think this is how we live. I think it
is one of the better episodes.

ho'JU

Unknown
10-01-2005, 12:13 AM
"|-|erc" <h@r.c> wrote in message news:34c6fgF49t3llU1@individual.net...
> "slatconsulting" <ojai@yahoo.com> wrote in
>>
>> > Jack Verginner said:
>> >
>> > I ****EN HATE THIS EPISODE
>> >
>> >
>> > Fran responded:
>> >
>> > It's a laugh. Sheesh ... lighten up!
>> >
>> > FRAN
>>
>>
>> Team America is hot on Jack's trail.
>
> It might have been entertaining to Yanks, the target audience.
> But sometimes maintaining a low profile is good.
>
> It was an OK ep, a little degrading but that's not the point, the point
> is it could've been really good, instead of a bunch of farmers and the
> only civil thing here is the American Embassy. Who on earth uses an
> embassy in Aus?
>

Never driven around the embassies in Canberra then?

> It was more like NZ, there's much more 'australian' characteristics to
> portray,
> like our OWN continent without crappy neighbours to get infected from,
> they
> don't even have their own continent, draw the borders to Canada and
> Mexico and they are only slightly bigger than Aus, just because they're
> prolific

Wrong again. You are only talking about 48 states. You forgot Alaska and
Hawaii. Put all that together and it dwarfs our land mass.

> breeders and spend their national income making special effects, yanks
> think they
> can mesmerize everyone that they're king
>

Nope. they don't think that. They don't HAVE to think that. They KNOW that!

Unknown
10-01-2005, 12:13 AM
"Jaspar" <jj@stuff.com> wrote in message
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> "tealou" <tealou@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:41e0d6e5$0$21099$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Fran wrote:
>>> Jack Verginner said:
>>>
>>> I ****EN HATE THIS EPISODE
>>>
>>>
>>> Fran responded:
>>>
>>> It's a laugh. Sheesh ... lighten up!
>>>
>>> FRAN
>>
>> I think its just deliberately irreverent... they do this all the time
>> with everything else.
>>
>> Isnt the mark of an Aussie to be able to laugh at ourselves? Or is it
>> that we find it amusing when they make fun of America/Canada/UK/Japan,
>> but we can't take it?
>
> The show is laughing at Americans who think this is how we live. I think
> it is one of the better episodes.
>
> ho'JU
>

Too subtle to be that. Americans don't like "subtle". Besides, I don't mind
the episode, I just hate the always BAD attempt at Aussie accents. They end
up sounding like Poms.

|-|erc
10-01-2005, 12:23 AM
"Unknown" <something@aoundabout.somewhere> wrote in > >>
> >> > Jack Verginner said:
> >> >
> >> > I ****EN HATE THIS EPISODE
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Fran responded:
> >> >
> >> > It's a laugh. Sheesh ... lighten up!
> >> >
> >> > FRAN
> >>
> >>
> >> Team America is hot on Jack's trail.
> >
> > It might have been entertaining to Yanks, the target audience.
> > But sometimes maintaining a low profile is good.
> >
> > It was an OK ep, a little degrading but that's not the point, the point
> > is it could've been really good, instead of a bunch of farmers and the
> > only civil thing here is the American Embassy. Who on earth uses an
> > embassy in Aus?
> >
>
> Never driven around the embassies in Canberra then?
>
> > It was more like NZ, there's much more 'australian' characteristics to
> > portray,
> > like our OWN continent without crappy neighbours to get infected from,
> > they
> > don't even have their own continent, draw the borders to Canada and
> > Mexico and they are only slightly bigger than Aus, just because they're
> > prolific
>
> Wrong again. You are only talking about 48 states. You forgot Alaska and
> Hawaii. Put all that together and it dwarfs our land mass.

alaska is near uninhabitable, hawaii is tiny isn't it?
they're about double our size, but have borders. we've got more desert per land though
50 times our population in only twice the area.


>
> > breeders and spend their national income making special effects, yanks
> > think they
> > can mesmerize everyone that they're king
> >
>
> Nope. they don't think that. They don't HAVE to think that. They KNOW that!
>

no, we just get subjected to their TV, massive empires all through Europe. Russia has its own
hollywood and superstars, and just like we've never heard of them, they've never
heard of ours. USA is a cross between Australia and China, modern but overpopulated.

At the moment Bush is on a world rampage and everyone in United Nations is sitting back
wondering if he knows what he's doing. One nuke on US turf (easily possible as the rest
of the world knows and thus keeps to their own land) and US will crawl back. Europe
lets them play charades as taking world stage, 5 other powers could wipe US in 20 minutes
of nuclear strike.

Herc

Unknown
11-01-2005, 09:03 AM
"|-|erc" <h@r.c> wrote in message news:34clskF4ar418U1@individual.net...
> "Unknown" <something@aoundabout.somewhere> wrote in > >>
>> >> > Jack Verginner said:
>> >> >
>> >> > I ****EN HATE THIS EPISODE
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Fran responded:
>> >> >
>> >> > It's a laugh. Sheesh ... lighten up!
>> >> >
>> >> > FRAN
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Team America is hot on Jack's trail.
>> >
>> > It might have been entertaining to Yanks, the target audience.
>> > But sometimes maintaining a low profile is good.
>> >
>> > It was an OK ep, a little degrading but that's not the point, the point
>> > is it could've been really good, instead of a bunch of farmers and the
>> > only civil thing here is the American Embassy. Who on earth uses an
>> > embassy in Aus?
>> >
>>
>> Never driven around the embassies in Canberra then?
>>
>> > It was more like NZ, there's much more 'australian' characteristics to
>> > portray,
>> > like our OWN continent without crappy neighbours to get infected from,
>> > they
>> > don't even have their own continent, draw the borders to Canada and
>> > Mexico and they are only slightly bigger than Aus, just because they're
>> > prolific
>>
>> Wrong again. You are only talking about 48 states. You forgot Alaska and
>> Hawaii. Put all that together and it dwarfs our land mass.
>
> alaska is near uninhabitable, hawaii is tiny isn't it?

So? You said that USA was only slightly larger. In fact if you mean the 48
mainland states we are about 75% of their land mass. However, to come back
to what was being said, YOU said USA was only slightly larger in land mass.
Untrue. USA includes all 50 states and that includes Alaska and Hawaii. Add
them in and they dwarf us. It matters not who lives there or doesnt.

> they're about double our size, but have borders. we've got more desert
> per land though
> 50 times our population in only twice the area.
>

They also dont suffer the problem that causes goitres. I cant remember what
it was, thiamin, vit b or whatever it was but our land here is deficient in
it and I think it was in the 50s that whatever that missing thing is, the
Fed Govt here ordered it to be put into bread to stop the goitre problem
being as bad as it then was. We also have the second largest desert in the
world if I remember correctly. We are near the top in arid inhabitabed land
masses and with our near 21 million, we are actually overpopulated for the
land that is actually viable for us. We need look no further than the fact
that we cannot keep fresh water enough so that now our Govts are talking
about putting in deslinisation plants.

>
>>
>> > breeders and spend their national income making special effects, yanks
>> > think they
>> > can mesmerize everyone that they're king
>> >
>>
>> Nope. they don't think that. They don't HAVE to think that. They KNOW
>> that!
>>
>
> no, we just get subjected to their TV, massive empires all through Europe.
> Russia has its own
> hollywood and superstars, and just like we've never heard of them, they've
> never
> heard of ours. USA is a cross between Australia and China, modern but
> overpopulated.

Would YOU watch a film made in Russia that is of questionable quality either
watching the mouth move differently to what was being said or reading what
was said while they spoke Russian? UK and USA have made English the most
widely accepted language though it isnt the most spoken language in the
world. Movies made in USA are in their brand of English and thus
understandable to Australians. We wouldnt accept low quality films not done
in English. I remember an SF pic made in Japan in the 60s. I was used to
crap coming from Japan - Mothra and the like. This one movie was
exceptionally good and I was able to not worry about the mouth moving
differently because of that. It was the ONLY Japanese movie that wasnt
animated that was worth it!

>
> At the moment Bush is on a world rampage and everyone in United Nations is
> sitting back
> wondering if he knows what he's doing. One nuke on US turf (easily
> possible as the rest
> of the world knows and thus keeps to their own land) and US will crawl
> back. Europe

Nukes are yesterdays' technology. You can build a weapon out of about US$30
that would kill anyone close to it when it went off and totally stuff any
electrical equipment at which it was pointed. Unfortunately it is unlikely
that they would have more than a 1 use life. However, you can walk down the
street with the parts as they are everyday things. You can set them up
pointing at critical installations and unless they have military style
shielding, you can go through the walls with it. Now set them up against the
NYSE, power generation plants, hospitals, telecommunications centres etc and
link them to a mobile phone awaiting an SMS to go off then get on a plane
and fly out of USA but when still in range of the mobile network, send the
SMS and suddenly there is mass hysteria in USA. That will quickly be
followed by internal anarchy until the local troops get called out to
enforce peace. Now if that is all that is done, sure it can all be fixed and
in a few weeks at most, all be working again. However, the idea was only
EVER meant to cause massive disruption so you can do what you intended
doing. It would cause a lot of problems and cause the US to pull it's horns
in for a while but also go on a defensive alert. I would think a militarily
controlled USA which is what it would be for a short while if nothing else
happened would be a nasty place to be.

> lets them play charades as taking world stage, 5 other powers could wipe
> US in 20 minutes
> of nuclear strike.
>

You don't need to nuke any longer. You can do as I described and take the
place over if you coordinate it well and in secret. You don't lose land etc
to radiation this way. You can move in, instantly if you have taken the
country over and can use all the resources available to the nation. The
populace would not have suffered any problems caused by the weapon but of
course they will have suffered problems that cascaded from the weapon's use.

Oh and if you think it is crap, this has all been discussed before and in
fact someone pointed out how to build it and said it would work. It
originally came up as a way to bring down computer networks to cause trouble
but it has expanded to much more.

|-|erc
11-01-2005, 05:13 PM
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"Unknown" <something@aoundabout.somewhere> wrote in message news:YZBEd.208$8X2.8548@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
>
> "|-|erc" <h@r.c> wrote in message news:34clskF4ar418U1@individual.net...
> > "Unknown" <something@aoundabout.somewhere> wrote in > >>
> >> >> > Jack Verginner said:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > I ****EN HATE THIS EPISODE
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Fran responded:
> >> >> >
> >> >> > It's a laugh. Sheesh ... lighten up!
> >> >> >
> >> >> > FRAN
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Team America is hot on Jack's trail.
> >> >
> >> > It might have been entertaining to Yanks, the target audience.
> >> > But sometimes maintaining a low profile is good.
> >> >
> >> > It was an OK ep, a little degrading but that's not the point, the point
> >> > is it could've been really good, instead of a bunch of farmers and the
> >> > only civil thing here is the American Embassy. Who on earth uses an
> >> > embassy in Aus?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Never driven around the embassies in Canberra then?
> >>
> >> > It was more like NZ, there's much more 'australian' characteristics to
> >> > portray,
> >> > like our OWN continent without crappy neighbours to get infected from,
> >> > they
> >> > don't even have their own continent, draw the borders to Canada and
> >> > Mexico and they are only slightly bigger than Aus, just because they're
> >> > prolific
> >>
> >> Wrong again. You are only talking about 48 states. You forgot Alaska and
> >> Hawaii. Put all that together and it dwarfs our land mass.
> >
> > alaska is near uninhabitable, hawaii is tiny isn't it?
>
> So? You said that USA was only slightly larger. In fact if you mean the 48
> mainland states we are about 75% of their land mass. However, to come back
> to what was being said, YOU said USA was only slightly larger in land mass.
> Untrue. USA includes all 50 states and that includes Alaska and Hawaii. Add
> them in and they dwarf us. It matters not who lives there or doesnt.

not likely, most of alaska is impassable 6 months of the years. Add Antarctica
to Aus and we flog them.



>
> > they're about double our size, but have borders. we've got more desert
> > per land though
> > 50 times our population in only twice the area.
> >
>
> They also dont suffer the problem that causes goitres. I cant remember what
> it was, thiamin, vit b or whatever it was but our land here is deficient in

iodine


> it and I think it was in the 50s that whatever that missing thing is, the
> Fed Govt here ordered it to be put into bread to stop the goitre problem
> being as bad as it then was. We also have the second largest desert in the

eat fish
(or is it the opposite, the mercury in fish causes your throat to restrict due
to lack of iodine...)



> world if I remember correctly. We are near the top in arid inhabitabed land
> masses and with our near 21 million, we are actually overpopulated for the
> land that is actually viable for us. We need look no further than the fact
> that we cannot keep fresh water enough so that now our Govts are talking
> about putting in deslinisation plants.

Yeah, we're all desert at the moment, but the potential is there.
I designed a tidal powered desal plant, the tides pump water in
every 8 hours flushing the salt water, and then trickle through radiators
to help the condensation. no moving parts except for some valves.

also a tidal powered water pump, would only go about 100 meters of pressure though.



>
> >
> >>
> >> > breeders and spend their national income making special effects, yanks
> >> > think they
> >> > can mesmerize everyone that they're king
> >> >
> >>
> >> Nope. they don't think that. They don't HAVE to think that. They KNOW
> >> that!
> >>
> >
> > no, we just get subjected to their TV, massive empires all through Europe.
> > Russia has its own
> > hollywood and superstars, and just like we've never heard of them, they've
> > never
> > heard of ours. USA is a cross between Australia and China, modern but
> > overpopulated.
>
> Would YOU watch a film made in Russia that is of questionable quality either
> watching the mouth move differently to what was being said or reading what
> was said while they spoke Russian? UK and USA have made English the most
> widely accepted language though it isnt the most spoken language in the
> world. Movies made in USA are in their brand of English and thus
> understandable to Australians. We wouldnt accept low quality films not done
> in English. I remember an SF pic made in Japan in the 60s. I was used to
> crap coming from Japan - Mothra and the like. This one movie was
> exceptionally good and I was able to not worry about the mouth moving
> differently because of that. It was the ONLY Japanese movie that wasnt
> animated that was worth it!

But who watches US TV?

not france, not germany, not asia, not england, not russia, not anywhere.

AUSTRLALIA watches it because we are just under populated to
have a movie industry.



>
> >
> > At the moment Bush is on a world rampage and everyone in United Nations is
> > sitting back
> > wondering if he knows what he's doing. One nuke on US turf (easily
> > possible as the rest
> > of the world knows and thus keeps to their own land) and US will crawl
> > back. Europe
>
> Nukes are yesterdays' technology.

ouch. a little information is a dangerous thing.

1,000 to 100,000 warheads all ready at the command of 5 different superpowers



>You can build a weapon out of about US$30
> that would kill anyone close to it when it went off and totally stuff any
> electrical equipment at which it was pointed. Unfortunately it is unlikely
> that they would have more than a 1 use life. However, you can walk down the
> street with the parts as they are everyday things. You can set them up
> pointing at critical installations and unless they have military style
> shielding, you can go through the walls with it. Now set them up against the
> NYSE, power generation plants, hospitals, telecommunications centres etc and
> link them to a mobile phone awaiting an SMS to go off then get on a plane
> and fly out of USA but when still in range of the mobile network, send the
> SMS and suddenly there is mass hysteria in USA. That will quickly be
> followed by internal anarchy until the local troops get called out to

you're forgetting the truman truth probe. nobody will get near a govt building
with a terrorist thought going through their head.

your thoughts go down to your voice box, you are ALWAYS talking everything
you think, you just don't hear it, but THEY CAN.



> enforce peace. Now if that is all that is done, sure it can all be fixed and
> in a few weeks at most, all be working again. However, the idea was only
> EVER meant to cause massive disruption so you can do what you intended
> doing. It would cause a lot of problems and cause the US to pull it's horns
> in for a while but also go on a defensive alert. I would think a militarily
> controlled USA which is what it would be for a short while if nothing else
> happened would be a nasty place to be.
>
> > lets them play charades as taking world stage, 5 other powers could wipe
> > US in 20 minutes
> > of nuclear strike.
> >
>
> You don't need to nuke any longer. You can do as I described and take the
> place over if you coordinate it well and in secret. You don't lose land etc
> to radiation this way. You can move in, instantly if you have taken the
> country over and can use all the resources available to the nation. The
> populace would not have suffered any problems caused by the weapon but of
> course they will have suffered problems that cascaded from the weapon's use.
>
> Oh and if you think it is crap, this has all been discussed before and in
> fact someone pointed out how to build it and said it would work. It
> originally came up as a way to bring down computer networks to cause trouble
> but it has expanded to much more.
>


a nuke will gutter a city in seconds, if you just want to tame the people then there
are more availalbe techniques, but if it more than a 24 hour operation they'll pin you in 12.

Herc

Unknown
12-01-2005, 09:03 AM
"|-|erc" <h@r.c> wrote in message news:34h53mF4aahofU1@individual.net...
>
> ---------------------------------------------s-o-s-----------------------------------------
> "Unknown" <something@aoundabout.somewhere> wrote in message
> news:YZBEd.208$8X2.8548@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
>>
>> "|-|erc" <h@r.c> wrote in message news:34clskF4ar418U1@individual.net...
>> > "Unknown" <something@aoundabout.somewhere> wrote in > >>
>> >> >> > Jack Verginner said:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I ****EN HATE THIS EPISODE
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Fran responded:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > It's a laugh. Sheesh ... lighten up!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > FRAN
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Team America is hot on Jack's trail.
>> >> >
>> >> > It might have been entertaining to Yanks, the target audience.
>> >> > But sometimes maintaining a low profile is good.
>> >> >
>> >> > It was an OK ep, a little degrading but that's not the point, the
>> >> > point
>> >> > is it could've been really good, instead of a bunch of farmers and
>> >> > the
>> >> > only civil thing here is the American Embassy. Who on earth uses an
>> >> > embassy in Aus?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Never driven around the embassies in Canberra then?
>> >>
>> >> > It was more like NZ, there's much more 'australian' characteristics
>> >> > to
>> >> > portray,
>> >> > like our OWN continent without crappy neighbours to get infected
>> >> > from,
>> >> > they
>> >> > don't even have their own continent, draw the borders to Canada and
>> >> > Mexico and they are only slightly bigger than Aus, just because
>> >> > they're
>> >> > prolific
>> >>
>> >> Wrong again. You are only talking about 48 states. You forgot Alaska
>> >> and
>> >> Hawaii. Put all that together and it dwarfs our land mass.
>> >
>> > alaska is near uninhabitable, hawaii is tiny isn't it?
>>
>> So? You said that USA was only slightly larger. In fact if you mean the
>> 48
>> mainland states we are about 75% of their land mass. However, to come
>> back
>> to what was being said, YOU said USA was only slightly larger in land
>> mass.
>> Untrue. USA includes all 50 states and that includes Alaska and Hawaii.
>> Add
>> them in and they dwarf us. It matters not who lives there or doesnt.
>
> not likely, most of alaska is impassable 6 months of the years. Add
> Antarctica
> to Aus and we flog them.

Again it doesnt matter. You talked LAND MASS. Also, we dont OWN all of
Antarctica and even WITH it added even though it isnt officially an Aussie
state like Alaska is an American state, America STILL dwarfs us in land
mass.

>
>
>
>>
>> > they're about double our size, but have borders. we've got more desert
>> > per land though
>> > 50 times our population in only twice the area.
>> >
>>
>> They also dont suffer the problem that causes goitres. I cant remember
>> what
>> it was, thiamin, vit b or whatever it was but our land here is deficient
>> in
>
> iodine
>

I believe you! :)

>
>> it and I think it was in the 50s that whatever that missing thing is, the
>> Fed Govt here ordered it to be put into bread to stop the goitre problem
>> being as bad as it then was. We also have the second largest desert in
>> the
>
> eat fish
> (or is it the opposite, the mercury in fish causes your throat to restrict
> due
> to lack of iodine...)
>

Actually my mother developed that problem before having my sister who
inherited it when born. It is the iodine buildup in seafood that causes that
reaction which can, if not treated, kill them.

>
>
>> world if I remember correctly. We are near the top in arid inhabitabed
>> land
>> masses and with our near 21 million, we are actually overpopulated for
>> the
>> land that is actually viable for us. We need look no further than the
>> fact
>> that we cannot keep fresh water enough so that now our Govts are talking
>> about putting in deslinisation plants.
>
> Yeah, we're all desert at the moment, but the potential is there.
> I designed a tidal powered desal plant, the tides pump water in
> every 8 hours flushing the salt water, and then trickle through radiators
> to help the condensation. no moving parts except for some valves.
>

Sell it then! We need it! That reminds me, went to a public toilet for a pee
yesterday. No-one in there and before I got to the urinal, it flushes for no
good reason. Why the hell do we still have auto flushing urinals wasting
water 24 hours a day?

> also a tidal powered water pump, would only go about 100 meters of
> pressure though.
>

We actually have a tidal power station being set up somewhere off shore now
I think.

>
>
>>
>> >
>> >>
>> >> > breeders and spend their national income making special effects,
>> >> > yanks
>> >> > think they
>> >> > can mesmerize everyone that they're king
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Nope. they don't think that. They don't HAVE to think that. They KNOW
>> >> that!
>> >>
>> >
>> > no, we just get subjected to their TV, massive empires all through
>> > Europe.
>> > Russia has its own
>> > hollywood and superstars, and just like we've never heard of them,
>> > they've
>> > never
>> > heard of ours. USA is a cross between Australia and China, modern but
>> > overpopulated.
>>
>> Would YOU watch a film made in Russia that is of questionable quality
>> either
>> watching the mouth move differently to what was being said or reading
>> what
>> was said while they spoke Russian? UK and USA have made English the most
>> widely accepted language though it isnt the most spoken language in the
>> world. Movies made in USA are in their brand of English and thus
>> understandable to Australians. We wouldnt accept low quality films not
>> done
>> in English. I remember an SF pic made in Japan in the 60s. I was used to
>> crap coming from Japan - Mothra and the like. This one movie was
>> exceptionally good and I was able to not worry about the mouth moving
>> differently because of that. It was the ONLY Japanese movie that wasnt
>> animated that was worth it!
>
> But who watches US TV?
>

We all do.

> not france, not germany, not asia, not england, not russia, not anywhere.
>

Sorry but there is a lot of it everywhere. Gee even Neighbours has made it
into non-English speaking countries!

> AUSTRLALIA watches it because we are just under populated to
> have a movie industry.
>

We had the first movie industry in the world but then we stuffed it. We have
a reasonable one in Sydney now but then we opted for the FTA.

>
>
>>
>> >
>> > At the moment Bush is on a world rampage and everyone in United Nations
>> > is
>> > sitting back
>> > wondering if he knows what he's doing. One nuke on US turf (easily
>> > possible as the rest
>> > of the world knows and thus keeps to their own land) and US will crawl
>> > back. Europe
>>
>> Nukes are yesterdays' technology.
>
> ouch. a little information is a dangerous thing.
>

You dont understand what I mean. You dont need a nuke to take a nation over
any longer. You only need that which I talked about, below and then you lose
no resources. What use is there in nuking the whole of USA to kill off all
their ability to fight back only to have the result of that kill the land
off for use and the fallout eventually migrating back home?

> 1,000 to 100,000 warheads all ready at the command of 5 different
> superpowers
>

Still makes no difference. Old thinking.

>
>
>>You can build a weapon out of about US$30
>> that would kill anyone close to it when it went off and totally stuff any
>> electrical equipment at which it was pointed. Unfortunately it is
>> unlikely
>> that they would have more than a 1 use life. However, you can walk down
>> the
>> street with the parts as they are everyday things. You can set them up
>> pointing at critical installations and unless they have military style
>> shielding, you can go through the walls with it. Now set them up against
>> the
>> NYSE, power generation plants, hospitals, telecommunications centres etc
>> and
>> link them to a mobile phone awaiting an SMS to go off then get on a plane
>> and fly out of USA but when still in range of the mobile network, send
>> the
>> SMS and suddenly there is mass hysteria in USA. That will quickly be
>> followed by internal anarchy until the local troops get called out to
>
> you're forgetting the truman truth probe. nobody will get near a govt
> building
> with a terrorist thought going through their head.
>

HAR HAR! :)

> your thoughts go down to your voice box, you are ALWAYS talking everything
> you think, you just don't hear it, but THEY CAN.
>

Wear tinfoil hats under your fedora!

>
>
>> enforce peace. Now if that is all that is done, sure it can all be fixed
>> and
>> in a few weeks at most, all be working again. However, the idea was only
>> EVER meant to cause massive disruption so you can do what you intended
>> doing. It would cause a lot of problems and cause the US to pull it's
>> horns
>> in for a while but also go on a defensive alert. I would think a
>> militarily
>> controlled USA which is what it would be for a short while if nothing
>> else
>> happened would be a nasty place to be.
>>
>> > lets them play charades as taking world stage, 5 other powers could
>> > wipe
>> > US in 20 minutes
>> > of nuclear strike.
>> >
>>
>> You don't need to nuke any longer. You can do as I described and take the
>> place over if you coordinate it well and in secret. You don't lose land
>> etc
>> to radiation this way. You can move in, instantly if you have taken the
>> country over and can use all the resources available to the nation. The
>> populace would not have suffered any problems caused by the weapon but of
>> course they will have suffered problems that cascaded from the weapon's
>> use.
>>
>> Oh and if you think it is crap, this has all been discussed before and in
>> fact someone pointed out how to build it and said it would work. It
>> originally came up as a way to bring down computer networks to cause
>> trouble
>> but it has expanded to much more.
>>
>
>
> a nuke will gutter a city in seconds, if you just want to tame the people
> then there
> are more availalbe techniques, but if it more than a 24 hour operation
> they'll pin you in 12.
>

Again, there is no use in nuking. That is cold war thinking. You lose too
much which may include your own life.

|-|erc
12-01-2005, 12:43 PM
look. ANTARCTICA cost US $20,000,000. a penthouse suite.

Its covered in snow 6 to 9 months of the year.

YOU CAN BARELY LIVE THERE


THAT IS RELEVANT.

check on the globe how much higher it is than England. check how low on the globe
it is if you mirror it to the southern hemisphere.

It would be half way between tasmania and antarctica.

Herc

|-|erc
12-01-2005, 12:53 PM
ps.. thanks for the iodine tip, hope the problem you're having in the urinal clears up!

Herc

|-|erc
12-01-2005, 01:03 PM
> look. ANTARCTICA cost US $20,000,000. a

that would be ALASKA.

Herc
:-)...

Unknown
12-01-2005, 09:53 PM
"|-|erc" <h@r.c> wrote in message news:34j9veF4a5dpuU1@individual.net...
> look. ANTARCTICA cost US $20,000,000. a penthouse suite.
>
> Its covered in snow 6 to 9 months of the year.
>
> YOU CAN BARELY LIVE THERE
>
>
> THAT IS RELEVANT.
>
> check on the globe how much higher it is than England. check how low on
> the globe
> it is if you mirror it to the southern hemisphere.
>
> It would be half way between tasmania and antarctica.
>
> Herc
>
>


London is on the same northern parallel as Hobart is in the south there,
Herc. Check again!

Unknown
12-01-2005, 10:13 PM
"|-|erc" <h@r.c> wrote in message news:34ja50F4cd6ghU1@individual.net...
> ps.. thanks for the iodine tip, hope the problem you're having in the
> urinal clears up!
>
>

It gets annoying taking so long to tuck my cock back in but then I do love
roosters! :)

|-|erc
12-01-2005, 10:34 PM
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"Unknown" <something@aoundabout.somewhere> wrote in
>
> "|-|erc" <h@r.c> wrote in message news:34j9veF4a5dpuU1@individual.net...
> > look. ANTARCTICA cost US $20,000,000. a penthouse suite.
> >
> > Its covered in snow 6 to 9 months of the year.
> >
> > YOU CAN BARELY LIVE THERE
> >
> >
> > THAT IS RELEVANT.
> >
> > check on the globe how much higher it is than England. check how low on
> > the globe
> > it is if you mirror it to the southern hemisphere.
> >
> > It would be half way between tasmania and antarctica.
> >
> > Herc
> >
>
> London is on the same northern parallel as Hobart is in the south there,
> Herc. Check again!
>

and Alaska would be below Hobart.

http://www.supernerd.com.au/~gray77/world.gif

-60 Latitude is well under Tas. Alaska is below freezing from Nov to March
and that's the warm parts, 10 meters of snowfall during storms. that's where
the X-files episodes are when they get snowed in, and the last Dr Who episode
where "the pod" was frozen over centuries. take your woolies!

Herc

dude
16-01-2005, 09:33 PM
: Besides, I don't mind the episode,
: I just hate the always BAD attempt at Aussie accents.
: They end up sounding like Poms.

Yup. 'Half-baked Cockney', I calls it... and they always think they're
absolutely nailing it!

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