171 5678

[Tony Lathouras]

Hi All

Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678. At the moment, all that is sent
back to me as an sms is the co-ords and no specific street detail, but will
this service eventually be able to give you a rough idea as to where you
are? I am guessing if it is able to give an idea as to where you are as in a
street name etc, tourists may get some advantage out of such a service when
lost (5678).

At the moment, it seems that my state police are using such technology quite
frequently through Telstra who advise them as to an approx street address
for a person they are seeking when they obviously know what mobile phone
number they happen to be on and that they are in fact carrying the phone
with them. A few times of late they have been able to tell the officers
which corner on what street they are most likely at at that given time.

Intriguing stuff, well for me anyway.

[Warmingup]

(-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory


not too siurprising im in a bit of a dud area



but you are right fascinating....btw how much dids that just cost me?



"Tony Lathouras" <tony_lathouras@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi All
>
> Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678. At the moment, all that is
sent
> back to me as an sms is the co-ords and no specific street detail, but
will
> this service eventually be able to give you a rough idea as to where you
> are? I am guessing if it is able to give an idea as to where you are as in
a
> street name etc, tourists may get some advantage out of such a service
when
> lost (5678).
>
> At the moment, it seems that my state police are using such technology
quite
> frequently through Telstra who advise them as to an approx street address
> for a person they are seeking when they obviously know what mobile phone
> number they happen to be on and that they are in fact carrying the phone
> with them. A few times of late they have been able to tell the officers
> which corner on what street they are most likely at at that given time.
>
> Intriguing stuff, well for me anyway.
>
>

[Albinus]

Warmingup wrote:
> (-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
>
>
> not too siurprising im in a bit of a dud area
>
>
>
> but you are right fascinating....btw how much dids that just cost me?


Did you send a blank SMS or call the number? Triangulation on GSM to
obtain coordinates sounds interesting :)


Albinus.

[Warmingup]

Sent an SMS with Test as text........




"Albinus" <albinus@spam-this.com> wrote in message
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> Warmingup wrote:
> > (-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
> >
> >
> > not too siurprising im in a bit of a dud area
> >
> >
> >
> > but you are right fascinating....btw how much dids that just cost me?
>
>
> Did you send a blank SMS or call the number? Triangulation on GSM to
> obtain coordinates sounds interesting :)
>
>
> Albinus.

[Frank]

"Albinus" <albinus@spam-this.com> wrote in message
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> Warmingup wrote:
>> (-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
>>
>>
>> not too siurprising im in a bit of a dud area
>>
>>
>>
>> but you are right fascinating....btw how much dids that just cost me?
>
>
> Did you send a blank SMS or call the number? Triangulation on GSM to
> obtain coordinates sounds interesting :)
>
>
> Albinus.

A blank SMS. The co-ordinates are not close to where I am though.

Frank

[Warmingup]

I imagine it is simply the co-ords of the base station that received the
originating SMS, TSTO triangulation would require directionality and at
least two stations to be receiving close to simultaneously and I don't think
GSM nor CDMA work that way atm






"Frank" <frankxxx@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Albinus" <albinus@spam-this.com> wrote in message
> news:41eb7db9$0$2869$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
> > Warmingup wrote:
> >> (-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
> >>
> >>
> >> not too siurprising im in a bit of a dud area
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> but you are right fascinating....btw how much dids that just cost me?
> >
> >
> > Did you send a blank SMS or call the number? Triangulation on GSM to
> > obtain coordinates sounds interesting :)
> >
> >
> > Albinus.
>
> A blank SMS. The co-ordinates are not close to where I am though.
>
> Frank
>
>

[Albinus]

Frank wrote:

> A blank SMS. The co-ordinates are not close to where I am though.


About 50m out here - quite impressive on GSM *looks for Big Brother* ;)


Albinus.

[Tony Lathouras]

"Frank" <frankxxx@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Albinus" <albinus@spam-this.com> wrote in message
> news:41eb7db9$0$2869$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>> Warmingup wrote:
>>> (-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
>>>
>>>
>>> not too siurprising im in a bit of a dud area
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> but you are right fascinating....btw how much dids that just cost me?
>>
>>
>> Did you send a blank SMS or call the number? Triangulation on GSM to
>> obtain coordinates sounds interesting :)
>>
>>
>> Albinus.
>
> A blank SMS. The co-ordinates are not close to where I am though.

At best, considering all the factors that may decrease the signal strength
etc from the handset to any one of the base stations to work on
triangulation, it could only be very rough, surely?

[Frank]

"Albinus" <albinus@spam-this.com> wrote in message
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> Frank wrote:
>
>> A blank SMS. The co-ordinates are not close to where I am though.
>
>
> About 50m out here - quite impressive on GSM *looks for Big Brother* ;)
>
>
> Albinus.

My mistake, I didn't have my glasses on and got a number wrong. Yes, it is
just about spot on !

Frank

[Michael]

"Warmingup" <somewon@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> I imagine it is simply the co-ords of the base station that received the
> originating SMS, TSTO triangulation would require directionality and at
> least two stations to be receiving close to simultaneously and I don't
think
> GSM nor CDMA work that way atm

cdma does, gsm doesnt

[Giles]

"Warmingup" <somewon@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> (-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
> not too siurprising im in a bit of a dud area

Inner West... Marrickville perhaps?

[The Family]

The plan is that the location data will be placed on a "Whereis" street map
and sent to you as a picture message for about $2.

Telstra recently acquired street directory company UBD which produced the
Whereis product. It has big plans to value-add to the service.

I think Whereis is the only comprehensive Australia-wide electronic street
directory. (Melway/Sydway don't have operations in other states and local
directory companies in Bris, Adl and Per are all struggling.)



"Tony Lathouras" <tony_lathouras@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:41eb4cc3$0$24134$702eb3a4@ut-29elizabeth-reader-01.hobart.pipenetworks.com...
> Hi All
>
> Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678. At the moment, all that is
sent
> back to me as an sms is the co-ords and no specific street detail, but
will
> this service eventually be able to give you a rough idea as to where you
> are? I am guessing if it is able to give an idea as to where you are as in
a
> street name etc, tourists may get some advantage out of such a service
when
> lost (5678).
>
> At the moment, it seems that my state police are using such technology
quite
> frequently through Telstra who advise them as to an approx street address
> for a person they are seeking when they obviously know what mobile phone
> number they happen to be on and that they are in fact carrying the phone
> with them. A few times of late they have been able to tell the officers
> which corner on what street they are most likely at at that given time.
>
> Intriguing stuff, well for me anyway.
>
>

[Frank]

"Giles" <call125111@email.com> wrote in message
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> "Warmingup" <somewon@microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:41eb6a92$0$16215$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> (-33.906387, 151.174703 unablke to find a suitable street directory
>> not too siurprising im in a bit of a dud area
>
> Inner West... Marrickville perhaps?


I calculate it to be Newtown, or Newtown/Marrickville.

Frank

[DJ!]

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:00:22 +1100, "Tony Lathouras"
<tony_lathouras@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi All
>
>Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678.

Is this only for Telstra mobile users?

Just tried it with a Vodafone and an Optus service - "sending failed".

Thanks

DJ!
http://beta.phlog.net/user/OzDJ
OzDJ@clubduh.com

[Rod Speed]

DJ! <derek@ausmicro.com> wrote in message
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> Tony Lathouras <tony_lathouras@hotmail.com> wrote

>> Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678.

> Is this only for Telstra mobile users?

> Just tried it with a Vodafone and an Optus service - "sending failed".

I tried it from the slut, got 'message sent', but no response.

[The Family]

"DJ!" <derek@ausmicro.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:00:22 +1100, "Tony Lathouras"
> <tony_lathouras@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi All
>>
>>Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678.
>
> Is this only for Telstra mobile users?
>

Only for Telstra GSM users. Telstra CDMA returns a message "Sorry, this
service is currently offline. Please try again later."

Works nicely with Telstra GSM though - I receive geographic coords and a UBD
street directly map reference that has been spot-on the three times I've
tried it out (from 3 different locations)


> Just tried it with a Vodafone and an Optus service - "sending failed".
>
> Thanks
>
> DJ!
> http://beta.phlog.net/user/OzDJ
> OzDJ@clubduh.com

[Frank]

"Warmingup" <somewon@microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Sent an SMS with Test as text........
>
>> >
>> > but you are right fascinating....btw how much dids that just cost me?
>>

Just checked on-line billing and it costs 25c

Frank

[peter]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> DJ! <derek@ausmicro.com> wrote in message
> news:07fou05lr63npfviiu0i8vd1j9mk67lheo@4ax.com...
>> Tony Lathouras <tony_lathouras@hotmail.com> wrote
>
>>> Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678.
>
>> Is this only for Telstra mobile users?
>
>> Just tried it with a Vodafone and an Optus service - "sending failed".
>
> I tried it from the slut, got 'message sent', but no response.
I suppose you can expect that from sluts, take your money and give no
service :-)
(the way i understand it , the service is only available for Telstra GSM)
peter

[DJ!]

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:00:22 +1100, "Tony Lathouras"
<tony_lathouras@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi All
>
>Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678.

My results here:

The SMS location:
http://beta.phlog.net/entry/177917

The actual GPS location:
http://beta.phlog.net/entry/177918

Now... go away, stalkers ;-)

DJ!
http://beta.phlog.net/user/OzDJ
OzDJ@clubduh.com

[Michael]

"DJ!" <derek@ausmicro.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 17:00:22 +1100, "Tony Lathouras"
> <tony_lathouras@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Hi All
> >
> >Curious about the eventual use of 171 5678.
>
> Is this only for Telstra mobile users?

Yes, its a Telstra Research Lab trial service