Orange CDMA

[Abe Cd]

Does anyone know whether Orange are prepared to load foreign esn's onto
their database?
(I'm aware that they will also need the SPC and A-Key, but obtaining
these is trivial)

[Paul Day]

Abe Cd <p@q.es.t> wrote:
> Does anyone know whether Orange are prepared to load foreign esn's onto
> their database?
> (I'm aware that they will also need the SPC and A-Key, but obtaining
> these is trivial)

Last time I asked, "no". They'll only allow ESNs from phones they sell
you. That was in Nov. '04.

PD

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Paul Day Web: www.bur.st/~paul GPG Key ID: 7FF655A8

[TA 2000]

Does anyone know whether Orange are prepared to load foreign esn's onto
their database?
(I'm aware that they will also need the SPC and A-Key, but obtaining
these is trivial)

No Telstra and Orange I believe don't sign up CDMA handset brought from oversea, as CDMA has different standards in every country.

Sim Cards for CDMA should be available in the next few years maybe???????

Regards,
Tom

[Abe Cd]

I called up Orange and was told it may be possible if I went into one of
their stores.

TA 2000 wrote:

> oversea, as CDMA has different standards in every country.

Don't believe it. While there are non-compatible CDMA systems out
there, this is more to do with inertia on Telstra's part.
>
> Sim Cards for CDMA should be available in the next few years
> maybe???????

Also known as RUIM(removable user identity modules) - given Telstra's
glacial pace, I don't see this happening in the near future.

[ctr001@hotmail.com]

Abe Cd wrote:
> I called up Orange and was told it may be possible if I went into one
of
> their stores.
>
> TA 2000 wrote:
>
> > oversea, as CDMA has different standards in every country.
>
> Don't believe it. While there are non-compatible CDMA systems out
> there, this is more to do with inertia on Telstra's part.

And what would that inertia be? Telstra's CDMA network is probably far
ahead of many others. The problem with CDMA is that the standards are
very open to interpretation and the large north american carriers tend
to do things their own way, but this is changing.

> >
> > Sim Cards for CDMA should be available in the next few years
> > maybe???????
>
> Also known as RUIM(removable user identity modules) - given Telstra's

> glacial pace, I don't see this happening in the near future.

RUIM will probably never be avialable in most CDMA markets. Many
carriers hate the idea for commercial reasons - especially the north
american ones. In asutralia, there is no business reason to provide
this functionality.

[TA 2000]

Abe Cd wrote:
RUIM will probably never be avialable in most CDMA markets. Many
carriers hate the idea for commercial reasons - especially the north
american ones. In asutralia, there is no business reason to provide
this functionality.

Yeah RUIM probably never see there way to Australia with only the 2 CDMA networks here. Though motorola have made dual mode GSM/CDMA mobile phone, however wheather that makes to Australia is anyones guess.

[Rod Speed]

<ctr001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1106784876.364358.240860@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
> Abe Cd wrote
>> TA 2000 wrote

>>> CDMA has different standards in every country.

>> Don't believe it. While there are non-compatible CDMA systems
>> out there, this is more to do with inertia on Telstra's part.

> And what would that inertia be?

Roaming agreements aint trivial to do with CDMA.

> Telstra's CDMA network is probably far ahead of many others.

Complete and utter drivel.

> The problem with CDMA is that the standards are
> very open to interpretation and the large north
> american carriers tend to do things their own way,

Doesnt explain the inbound but not outbound
roaming with non american countrys.

> but this is changing.

Not even relevant to the lack of outbound roaming to anywhere.

>>> Sim Cards for CDMA should be available
>>> in the next few years maybe???????

>> Also known as RUIM(removable user identity modules) - given
>> Telstra's glacial pace, I don't see this happening in the near future.

> RUIM will probably never be avialable in most CDMA markets.

We'll see.

> Many carriers hate the idea for commercial
> reasons - especially the north american ones.

Bullshit.

> In asutralia, there is no business reason to provide this functionality.

More bullshit.

[thegoons]

"Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> <ctr001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1106784876.364358.240860@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>> Abe Cd wrote
>>> TA 2000 wrote
>
>>>> CDMA has different standards in every country.
>
>>> Don't believe it. While there are non-compatible CDMA systems
>>> out there, this is more to do with inertia on Telstra's part.
>
>> And what would that inertia be?
>
> Roaming agreements aint trivial to do with CDMA.
>
>> Telstra's CDMA network is probably far ahead of many others.
>
> Complete and utter drivel.
>
>> The problem with CDMA is that the standards are
>> very open to interpretation and the large north
>> american carriers tend to do things their own way,
>
> Doesnt explain the inbound but not outbound
> roaming with non american countrys.

They can roam in because their handsets are dual-band CDMNA, whereas ours r
not. Though handsets can always be imported, Telstra are too damn lazy. Why
do they care about country folk anyway, howard has the senate, so the
country party pollies can shut up


>
>> but this is changing.
>
> Not even relevant to the lack of outbound roaming to anywhere.
>
>>>> Sim Cards for CDMA should be available
>>>> in the next few years maybe???????
>
>>> Also known as RUIM(removable user identity modules) - given
>>> Telstra's glacial pace, I don't see this happening in the near future.
>
>> RUIM will probably never be avialable in most CDMA markets.
>
> We'll see.
>
>> Many carriers hate the idea for commercial
>> reasons - especially the north american ones.
>
> Bullshit.
>
>> In asutralia, there is no business reason to provide this functionality.
>
> More bullshit.
>

[Rod Speed]

"thegoons" <thegoons@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:35r9jfF4osevbU1@individual.net...
>>
>> <ctr001@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1106784876.364358.240860@f14g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
>>> Abe Cd wrote
>>>> TA 2000 wrote
>>
>>>>> CDMA has different standards in every country.
>>
>>>> Don't believe it. While there are non-compatible CDMA systems
>>>> out there, this is more to do with inertia on Telstra's part.
>>
>>> And what would that inertia be?
>>
>> Roaming agreements aint trivial to do with CDMA.
>>
>>> Telstra's CDMA network is probably far ahead of many others.
>>
>> Complete and utter drivel.
>>
>>> The problem with CDMA is that the standards are
>>> very open to interpretation and the large north
>>> american carriers tend to do things their own way,
>>
>> Doesnt explain the inbound but not outbound
>> roaming with non american countrys.

> They can roam in because their handsets are dual-band CDMNA, whereas ours r
> not.

Its more complicated than just that.

> Though handsets can always be imported, Telstra are too damn lazy.

Yes, it isnt considered to be what's wanted enough
to matter much. They're likely right on that too.

> Why do they care about country folk anyway,

They care about the revenue, stupid.

> howard has the senate, so the country party pollies can shut up

Got fuck all to do with that, as should be obvious from
the fact that they didnt bother when howard didnt have
the senate and there was no real prospect of getting it.

>>> but this is changing.
>>
>> Not even relevant to the lack of outbound roaming to anywhere.
>>
>>>>> Sim Cards for CDMA should be available
>>>>> in the next few years maybe???????
>>
>>>> Also known as RUIM(removable user identity modules) - given
>>>> Telstra's glacial pace, I don't see this happening in the near future.
>>
>>> RUIM will probably never be avialable in most CDMA markets.
>>
>> We'll see.
>>
>>> Many carriers hate the idea for commercial
>>> reasons - especially the north american ones.
>>
>> Bullshit.
>>
>>> In asutralia, there is no business reason to provide this functionality.
>>
>> More bullshit.
>>
>
>