Tuned Porsche 911 hits 241mph

[a9x5l]

German tuner 9ff is claiming a new top-speed world record for
road-registered cars of a blistering 241.1mph. The record, set by 9ff boss
Jan Fatthauer in the company¢s new 9F-V400, was achieved at the Nardo
test track in Italy. It cracks the previous record of 240.1mph set by Andy
Wallace driving a McLaren F1 in 1998.


http://www.autocarmag.com/news_article.asp?na_id=213194

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[reg-john]

"a9x5l" <a9x5l@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> German tuner 9ff is claiming a new top-speed world record for
> road-registered cars of a blistering 241.1mph. The record, set by 9ff boss
> Jan Fatthauer in the company¢s new 9F-V400, was achieved at the Nardo
> test track in Italy. It cracks the previous record of 240.1mph set by Andy
> Wallace driving a McLaren F1 in 1998.
>
>
> http://www.autocarmag.com/news_article.asp?na_id=213194
>
> --
> a9x5l
>

doesnt really count, its modified and the fl probably wasnt.

[a9x5l]

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:30:56 +0000, reg-john wrote:

>
> "a9x5l" <a9x5l@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2005.01.29.12.19.00.346346@hotmail.com...
>> German tuner 9ff is claiming a new top-speed world record for
>> road-registered cars of a blistering 241.1mph. The record, set by 9ff boss
>> Jan Fatthauer in the company¢s new 9F-V400, was achieved at the Nardo
>> test track in Italy. It cracks the previous record of 240.1mph set by Andy
>> Wallace driving a McLaren F1 in 1998.
>>
>>
>> http://www.autocarmag.com/news_article.asp?na_id=213194
>>
>> --
>> a9x5l
>>
>
> doesnt really count, its modified and the fl probably wasnt.

A bit dubious isn't it? When is a modified production car a standard
production car?

And yes, AFAIK, the F1 was standard.


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[reg-john]

when its the same specs as it was released from factory. pretty basic...

im sure a mclaren owner, should he feel the need, could whack in an almighty
supercharged thing into his car and beat 241mph. you know, as well as
reducing final drive, finding a 10kmh straight to do it on. without a
uniform standard of testing, these figures mean nothing.




"a9x5l" <a9x5l@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 12:30:56 +0000, reg-john wrote:
>
> >
> > "a9x5l" <a9x5l@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:pan.2005.01.29.12.19.00.346346@hotmail.com...
> >> German tuner 9ff is claiming a new top-speed world record for
> >> road-registered cars of a blistering 241.1mph. The record, set by 9ff
boss
> >> Jan Fatthauer in the company¢s new 9F-V400, was achieved at the Nardo
> >> test track in Italy. It cracks the previous record of 240.1mph set by
Andy
> >> Wallace driving a McLaren F1 in 1998.
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.autocarmag.com/news_article.asp?na_id=213194
> >>
> >> --
> >> a9x5l
> >>
> >
> > doesnt really count, its modified and the fl probably wasnt.
>
> A bit dubious isn't it? When is a modified production car a standard
> production car?
>
> And yes, AFAIK, the F1 was standard.
>
>
> --
> a9x5l
>

[a9x5l]

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:10:53 +0000, reg-john wrote:

> when its the same specs as it was released from factory. pretty basic...

Which factory though? making the claim(top speed) as they have means that
they believe that the car is their production vehicle, even if it was
actually built by Porche, at least that's how I see it. Put it this way,
if HSV produced a car that did 250mph, would it be ineligible for the
record? I don't think so.

>
> im sure a mclaren owner, should he feel the need, could whack in an almighty
> supercharged thing into his car and beat 241mph. you know, as well as
> reducing final drive, finding a 10kmh straight to do it on. without a
> uniform standard of testing, these figures mean nothing.
>

Might be meaningless but It's a bit of fun and gives us something to argue
about:-)

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[reg-john]

if 9ff is an endorsed porsche dev house, then yeah, i would agree. if its a
sams performance, or ls1edit, then no.


"a9x5l" <a9x5l@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:10:53 +0000, reg-john wrote:
>
> > when its the same specs as it was released from factory. pretty basic...
>
> Which factory though? making the claim(top speed) as they have means that
> they believe that the car is their production vehicle, even if it was
> actually built by Porche, at least that's how I see it. Put it this way,
> if HSV produced a car that did 250mph, would it be ineligible for the
> record? I don't think so.
>
> >
> > im sure a mclaren owner, should he feel the need, could whack in an
almighty
> > supercharged thing into his car and beat 241mph. you know, as well as
> > reducing final drive, finding a 10kmh straight to do it on. without a
> > uniform standard of testing, these figures mean nothing.
> >
>
> Might be meaningless but It's a bit of fun and gives us something to argue
> about:-)
>
> --
> a9x5l
>

[John McKenzie]

reg-john wrote:
>
> when its the same specs as it was released from factory. pretty basic...
>
> im sure a mclaren owner, should he feel the need, could whack in an almighty
> supercharged thing into his car and beat 241mph. you know, as well as
> reducing final drive, finding a 10kmh straight to do it on. without a
> uniform standard of testing, these figures mean nothing.

Not that it's remotely close (I think it was around 171mph in it's best
ever 'std' guise) but the funniest thing about the lambourghina countach
in my opinion is that it went a full 10mph quicker without the wing on
the back, which was said to be purely aesthetic (i.e. it didn't
beneficially affect grip via added downforce, or perhaps just created
insufficient down force)

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[John McKenzie]

reg-john wrote:
>
>
> doesnt really count, its modified and the fl probably wasnt.

Yeah but what was the sticker price on a McLaren f1?

They might also do well to look at the Callaway (spelling?) pseudo
endorsed corvette. From memory it topped 400km/h (I think, it was some
time ago) which is 248. something mph


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[What The]

That's an old story about removing wings to gain top speed. F1 cars reduce wing force
to gain top speed, but lose in corner downforce, its all a game of compromise. you
can't have high downforce on a wing AND top speed.


"John McKenzie" <jmac@alphalink.com.au> wrote in message
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> reg-john wrote:
>>
>> when its the same specs as it was released from factory. pretty basic...
>>
>> im sure a mclaren owner, should he feel the need, could whack in an almighty
>> supercharged thing into his car and beat 241mph. you know, as well as
>> reducing final drive, finding a 10kmh straight to do it on. without a
>> uniform standard of testing, these figures mean nothing.
>
> Not that it's remotely close (I think it was around 171mph in it's best
> ever 'std' guise) but the funniest thing about the lambourghina countach
> in my opinion is that it went a full 10mph quicker without the wing on
> the back, which was said to be purely aesthetic (i.e. it didn't
> beneficially affect grip via added downforce, or perhaps just created
> insufficient down force)
>
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[russell hobman]

"a9x5l" wrote


a new top-speed world record for road-registered cars

[Rainbow Warrior]

"russell hobman" <rhobman@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "a9x5l" wrote
>
> a new top-speed world record for road-registered cars
He sure did.
Get over it :-)

[sheik yerbouti]

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 09:16:24 +1100, John McKenzie
<jmac@alphalink.com.au> wrote:


>
>Not that it's remotely close (I think it was around 171mph in it's best
>ever 'std' guise) but the funniest thing about the lambourghina countach
>in my opinion is that it went a full 10mph quicker without the wing on
>the back, which was said to be purely aesthetic (i.e. it didn't
>beneficially affect grip via added downforce, or perhaps just created
>insufficient down force)

what? the rear wing doesn't increase top speed? you're kidding!?

of course it's quicker without the wing on! whether the driver can
control the car at top speed is another question...


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[sheik yerbouti]

On Sat, 29 Jan 2005 14:27:30 GMT, "reg-john" <jab@bab.com> wrote:

>if 9ff is an endorsed porsche dev house, then yeah, i would agree. if its a
>sams performance, or ls1edit, then no.
>

there's no right or wrong answer on that. for a long time the
commodore has been based heavily on the opel omega(?). does it qualify
as a production car?

a mclaren F1 is no more a production car than a Ruff or other tuned
Porsche. they are both largely hand-built. if anything the modified
porsche is much closer to a production car.


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[John McKenzie]

What The wrote:
>
> That's an old story about removing wings to gain top speed.

I realise that, but I'm speaking specifically about the countach, and
further about it's styling that it's design critera emphasised form over
function.


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[Diesel Damo]

Didn't the first Vector (twin turbo 350 Chev) in the 80s get clocked at
247mph? I'm pretty sure it did. It was 250mph on paper, but when they
tested it "only" got 247mph.

[Diesel Damo]

> doesnt really count, its modified and the fl probably wasnt.

But they're claiming "road registered record". Not production car
record.

[Tsunami]

"a9x5l" <a9x5l@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:pan.2005.01.29.12.19.00.346346@hotmail.com...
> German tuner 9ff is claiming a new top-speed world record for
> road-registered cars of a blistering 241.1mph. The record, set by 9ff boss
> Jan Fatthauer in the company¢s new 9F-V400, was achieved at the Nardo
> test track in Italy. It cracks the previous record of 240.1mph set by Andy
> Wallace driving a McLaren F1 in 1998.
>
>
> http://www.autocarmag.com/news_article.asp?na_id=213194
>
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> a9x5l
>
That's nothing, my old TX3 turbo did 253.

.....oh you said mph ;-)