Are Kias any good?

[SJW]

Just a quick one....what are your opinions on the Kia Cerato? *ducks for
cover*
Seems like a good level of features for the price. Engine is the 2.0L from
the Hyundai Elantra. Looks ok too for 18,990 drive away...with 6yr/175K
dealer warranty.
Any known issues/problems with them?

[zonie]

A friend has an '03 Kia Spectra 1.8 55,000 miles . No problems at all , his
only complaint it it is easy to dent the sheet metal . Scott

[david]

SJW wrote:
> Just a quick one....what are your opinions on the Kia Cerato? *ducks for
> cover*
> Seems like a good level of features for the price. Engine is the 2.0L from
> the Hyundai Elantra. Looks ok too for 18,990 drive away...with 6yr/175K
> dealer warranty.
> Any known issues/problems with them?
>
>
They're fine so long as you don't live near salt water, don't drive like
it is a race car, and don't hit anything.

David

[Jim Vatunz]

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:20:35 +1100, david <david@spam-me.com> wrote:

>SJW wrote:
>> Just a quick one....what are your opinions on the Kia Cerato? *ducks for
>> cover*
>> Seems like a good level of features for the price. Engine is the 2.0L from
>> the Hyundai Elantra. Looks ok too for 18,990 drive away...with 6yr/175K
>> dealer warranty.
>> Any known issues/problems with them?
>>
>>
>They're fine so long as you don't live near salt water, don't drive like
>it is a race car, and don't hit anything.
>
>David
That counts for any car.
meanwhile i continue to check out the Preggio. Must start dropping
hints to the missus.

For a very plain website try
http://ii.net/~farmerjim/

[atec]

Jim Vatunz wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:20:35 +1100, david <david@spam-me.com> wrote:
>
>
>>SJW wrote:
>>
>>>Just a quick one....what are your opinions on the Kia Cerato? *ducks for
>>>cover*
>>>Seems like a good level of features for the price. Engine is the 2.0L from
>>>the Hyundai Elantra. Looks ok too for 18,990 drive away...with 6yr/175K
>>>dealer warranty.
>>>Any known issues/problems with them?
>>>
>>>
>>
>>They're fine so long as you don't live near salt water, don't drive like
>>it is a race car, and don't hit anything.
>>
>>David
>
> That counts for any car.
> meanwhile i continue to check out the Preggio. Must start dropping
> hints to the missus.
>
> For a very plain website try
> http://ii.net/~farmerjim/
mate has a prgy for 30k now , loves it ( not a petrol though) and its
running very well , rumour Ive heard is the prggy will be sold as a
toyota shortly , with some 10k more in the price for the badges...

[Jim Vatunz]

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 16:09:24 +1000, atec <"atec77(atec)"@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>Jim Vatunz wrote:
>> On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:20:35 +1100, david <david@spam-me.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>SJW wrote:
>>>
>>>>Just a quick one....what are your opinions on the Kia Cerato? *ducks for
>>>>cover*
>>>>Seems like a good level of features for the price. Engine is the 2.0L from
>>>>the Hyundai Elantra. Looks ok too for 18,990 drive away...with 6yr/175K
>>>>dealer warranty.
>>>>Any known issues/problems with them?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>They're fine so long as you don't live near salt water, don't drive like
>>>it is a race car, and don't hit anything.
>>>
>>>David
>>
>> That counts for any car.
>> meanwhile i continue to check out the Preggio. Must start dropping
>> hints to the missus.

>mate has a prgy for 30k now , loves it ( not a petrol though) and its
>running very well , rumour Ive heard is the prggy will be sold as a
>toyota shortly , with some 10k more in the price for the badges...

I don't pay for badges, which is why i drive a Hyundai.
Diesel is the only option on the Preggio. I view that as a major plus
rather than a minus.

For a very plain website try
http://ii.net/~farmerjim/

[D Walford]

atec wrote:
>
> Jim Vatunz wrote:
> > On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:20:35 +1100, david <david@spam-me.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>SJW wrote:
> >>
> >>>Just a quick one....what are your opinions on the Kia Cerato? *ducks for
> >>>cover*
> >>>Seems like a good level of features for the price. Engine is the 2.0L from
> >>>the Hyundai Elantra. Looks ok too for 18,990 drive away...with 6yr/175K
> >>>dealer warranty.
> >>>Any known issues/problems with them?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>They're fine so long as you don't live near salt water, don't drive like
> >>it is a race car, and don't hit anything.
> >>
> >>David
> >
> > That counts for any car.
> > meanwhile i continue to check out the Preggio. Must start dropping
> > hints to the missus.
> >
> > For a very plain website try
> > http://ii.net/~farmerjim/
> mate has a prgy for 30k now , loves it ( not a petrol though) and its
> running very well , rumour Ive heard is the prggy will be sold as a
> toyota shortly , with some 10k more in the price for the badges...

Odd rumour.
Hi Ace outsold the Pregio despite being significantly more expensive.




Daryl

[Jim Vatunz]

On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:25:20 +1100, D Walford <walford@iprimus.com.au>
wrote:

>atec wrote:
>>
>> Jim Vatunz wrote:
>> > On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:20:35 +1100, david <david@spam-me.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >>SJW wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>Just a quick one....what are your opinions on the Kia Cerato? *ducks for
>> >>>cover*
>> >>>Seems like a good level of features for the price. Engine is the 2.0L from
>> >>>the Hyundai Elantra. Looks ok too for 18,990 drive away...with 6yr/175K
>> >>>dealer warranty.
>> >>>Any known issues/problems with them?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>They're fine so long as you don't live near salt water, don't drive like
>> >>it is a race car, and don't hit anything.
>> >>
>> >>David
>> >
>> > That counts for any car.
>> > meanwhile i continue to check out the Preggio. Must start dropping
>> > hints to the missus.
>> >
>> > For a very plain website try
>> > http://ii.net/~farmerjim/
>> mate has a prgy for 30k now , loves it ( not a petrol though) and its
>> running very well , rumour Ive heard is the prggy will be sold as a
>> toyota shortly , with some 10k more in the price for the badges...
>
>Odd rumour.
>Hi Ace outsold the Pregio despite being significantly more expensive.
>
>
>
>
>Daryl

Holden were still selling an awful lot of Commodores in 1985 despite
having an engine that was about 15 years past it's useby date.
Your point being?

For a very plain website try
http://ii.net/~farmerjim/

[Knobdoodle]

[looks left and right]
Where's the usual chorus of halfwits who pop up with "a friend of a friend
is a super-mechanic and he says they explode and cause cancer and that's a
FACT!!" every time Kias are mentioned?
They aughtta' be here by now!
--
Knob
"I am overawed about you concession though" (Veritas not sure how to spell
"ewe"...)

"SJW" <sjw0410@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:41fef900$0$2674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
> Just a quick one....what are your opinions on the Kia Cerato? *ducks for
> cover*
> Seems like a good level of features for the price. Engine is the 2.0L
> from the Hyundai Elantra. Looks ok too for 18,990 drive away...with
> 6yr/175K dealer warranty.
> Any known issues/problems with them?
>

[D Walford]

Jim Vatunz wrote:
>
> On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 18:25:20 +1100, D Walford <walford@iprimus.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> >atec wrote:
> >>
> >> Jim Vatunz wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:20:35 +1100, david <david@spam-me.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>SJW wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >>>Just a quick one....what are your opinions on the Kia Cerato? *ducks for
> >> >>>cover*
> >> >>>Seems like a good level of features for the price. Engine is the 2.0L from
> >> >>>the Hyundai Elantra. Looks ok too for 18,990 drive away...with 6yr/175K
> >> >>>dealer warranty.
> >> >>>Any known issues/problems with them?
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>
> >> >>They're fine so long as you don't live near salt water, don't drive like
> >> >>it is a race car, and don't hit anything.
> >> >>
> >> >>David
> >> >
> >> > That counts for any car.
> >> > meanwhile i continue to check out the Preggio. Must start dropping
> >> > hints to the missus.
> >> >
> >> > For a very plain website try
> >> > http://ii.net/~farmerjim/
> >> mate has a prgy for 30k now , loves it ( not a petrol though) and its
> >> running very well , rumour Ive heard is the prggy will be sold as a
> >> toyota shortly , with some 10k more in the price for the badges...
> >
> >Odd rumour.
> >Hi Ace outsold the Pregio despite being significantly more expensive.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Daryl
>
> Holden were still selling an awful lot of Commodores in 1985 despite
> having an engine that was about 15 years past it's useby date.
> Your point being?
>

Buyers of vans are willing to pay a premium price for a vehicle like the
HiAce with a very good reputation for quality and reliablity.
The Pregio may turn out to be a good vehicle but at this point in time
its long term durability is unknown.




Daryl

[atec]

D Walford wrote:
> atec wrote:
>
>>Jim Vatunz wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 15:20:35 +1100, david <david@spam-me.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>SJW wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Just a quick one....what are your opinions on the Kia Cerato? *ducks for
>>>>>cover*
>>>>>Seems like a good level of features for the price. Engine is the 2.0L from
>>>>>the Hyundai Elantra. Looks ok too for 18,990 drive away...with 6yr/175K
>>>>>dealer warranty.
>>>>>Any known issues/problems with them?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>They're fine so long as you don't live near salt water, don't drive like
>>>>it is a race car, and don't hit anything.
>>>>
>>>>David
>>>
>>>That counts for any car.
>>>meanwhile i continue to check out the Preggio. Must start dropping
>>>hints to the missus.
>>>
>>>For a very plain website try
>>>http://ii.net/~farmerjim/
>>
>>mate has a prgy for 30k now , loves it ( not a petrol though) and its
>>running very well , rumour Ive heard is the prggy will be sold as a
>>toyota shortly , with some 10k more in the price for the badges...
>
>
> Odd rumour.
> Hi Ace outsold the Pregio despite being significantly more expensive.
>
>
>
>
> Daryl
Thats the point , anyone doing homework will reliase the prggy is great
vvalue , and the others buy toyota

[Forg]

atec wrote:
....
>>> mate has a prgy for 30k now , loves it
>>> ( not a petrol though) and its running very
>>> well , rumour Ive heard is the prggy will
>>> be sold as a toyota shortly , with some 10k
>>> more in the price for the badges...
....
>> Odd rumour.
>> Hi Ace outsold the Pregio despite being
>> significantly more expensive.
....
> Thats the point , anyone doing homework will
> reliase the prggy is great value , and the
> others buy toyota
....

Not really. Considering the incredibly poor build-quality (& hence
longevity) of the majority of Korean cars, it's going to take a long
time before the majority of people will believe that one will last as
long as a Toyota does. I really don't think Toyota would be willing to
chuck their reputation away so quickly; if Kias being bought now have a
good reputation in 10 years time, Toyota might do it then (but
considering the bodginess of the Festiva & the Rio, I have my doubts
it'll be that soon).


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[atec]

Forg wrote:
> atec wrote:
> ...
> >>> mate has a prgy for 30k now , loves it
> >>> ( not a petrol though) and its running very
> >>> well , rumour Ive heard is the prggy will
> >>> be sold as a toyota shortly , with some 10k
> >>> more in the price for the badges...
> ...
> >> Odd rumour.
> >> Hi Ace outsold the Pregio despite being
> >> significantly more expensive.
> ...
> > Thats the point , anyone doing homework will
> > reliase the prggy is great value , and the
> > others buy toyota
> ...
>
> Not really. Considering the incredibly poor build-quality (& hence
> longevity) of the majority of Korean cars, it's going to take a long
> time before the majority of people will believe that one will last as
> long as a Toyota does. I really don't think Toyota would be willing to
> chuck their reputation away so quickly; if Kias being bought now have a
> good reputation in 10 years time, Toyota might do it then (but
> considering the bodginess of the Festiva & the Rio, I have my doubts
> it'll be that soon).
>
>
Im told very shortly the toyo prggy will hit the market... and build
quality does change and its easy to do so.. go ride in a prggy and let
me know if it feels like to many other Korean crap builds..

[Marco]

"SJW" <sjw0410@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:41fef900$0$2674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
> Just a quick one....what are your opinions on the Kia Cerato? *ducks for
> cover*

I worry about the longevity of their cars, although this might have improved
under Hyundai's ownership. Just about every Festiva you see about the place
now is dog-eared and has faded paint and cracked plastics, and the same is
true for the 98-98 Kia Mentor at the end of my street. I can't think of
many other cars that have fared so badly in such a short time.

Thing is, they might be a lot better now, but you won't know for another
five to ten years. How long do you want to keep it?

[Kieron]

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 23:15:34 +1100, "Marco" <rbgemini@iprimus.com.au>
wrote:

>
>"SJW" <sjw0410@optusnet.com.au> wrote in message
>news:41fef900$0$2674$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au ...
>> Just a quick one....what are your opinions on the Kia Cerato? *ducks for
>> cover*
>
>I worry about the longevity of their cars, although this might have improved
>under Hyundai's ownership. Just about every Festiva you see about the place
>now is dog-eared and has faded paint and cracked plastics, and the same is
>true for the 98-98 Kia Mentor at the end of my street. I can't think of
>many other cars that have fared so badly in such a short time.
>
>Thing is, they might be a lot better now, but you won't know for another
>five to ten years. How long do you want to keep it?

This is the thing. The likes of Kias are cheap and its quite likely
you will keep them for 4 years and unload it.
Sure you won't get a good price on a trade but then again what was the
$$'s out of your pocket in comparsion to a Corolla etc

Apart from the Mustang, i've never kept any car for more than 3 or 4
years, I get board of them :)

[Noddy]

"Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:42018a1a.142211343@203.50.2.233...

> Apart from the Mustang, i've never kept any car for more than 3 or 4
> years, I get board of them :)

You also don't get to experience most of their problems either.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Kieron]

On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 05:25:52 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au>
wrote:

>
>"Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:42018a1a.142211343@203.50.2.233...
>
>> Apart from the Mustang, i've never kept any car for more than 3 or 4
>> years, I get board of them :)
>
>You also don't get to experience most of their problems either.

and have to fork out to fix them. Hence it might be better on the
pocket to buy the likes of a Kia and have trouble free motoring for a
few years then dump it for a new one.

[budgie]

On Fri, 04 Feb 2005 02:45:35 GMT, kieronm302@hotmail.com (Kieron) wrote:

>On Thu, 03 Feb 2005 05:25:52 GMT, "Noddy" <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au>
>wrote:
>
>>
>>"Kieron" <kieronm302@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:42018a1a.142211343@203.50.2.233...
>>
>>> Apart from the Mustang, i've never kept any car for more than 3 or 4
>>> years, I get board of them :)
>>
>>You also don't get to experience most of their problems either.
>
>and have to fork out to fix them. Hence it might be better on the
>pocket to buy the likes of a Kia and have trouble free motoring for a
>few years then dump it for a new one.

which is the normal fleet owner strategy. So why don't fleet owners buy Kias or
Magnas?

[Noddy]

"budgie" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:5no601d7lgu7ppttehakdf0b25b7iufs95@4ax.com...

> which is the normal fleet owner strategy. So why don't fleet owners buy
> Kias or
> Magnas?

Some do, well Magna's at least.

The Government has a large fleet of Magna's amongst it's various
departments, but that's more to do with their policy of whacking up the
purchasing amongst the local manufacturers to keep everyone happy than
anything else. Other private fleets, particularly rental and small fleet
buyers don't seem to mind them either as they're good value buying.

--
Regards,
Noddy.

[Sam Reed]

Yesterday I traded my 97 Verada for a new Kluger CV I almost cried when I
found out the trade in value of my Verada was $8500. When new it was almost
a $50 grand car. I knew their resale value was not all that great but I
didn't know it was that shitful.
"Noddy" <dg4163@_nospam_dod.com.au> wrote in message
news:4203e223@news.comindico.com.au...
>
> "budgie" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:5no601d7lgu7ppttehakdf0b25b7iufs95@4ax.com...
>
> > which is the normal fleet owner strategy. So why don't fleet owners buy
> > Kias or
> > Magnas?
>
> Some do, well Magna's at least.
>
> The Government has a large fleet of Magna's amongst it's various
> departments, but that's more to do with their policy of whacking up the
> purchasing amongst the local manufacturers to keep everyone happy than
> anything else. Other private fleets, particularly rental and small fleet
> buyers don't seem to mind them either as they're good value buying.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Noddy.
>
>