TV card problem...

[Jeßus]

Basically, the problem is that after about 15 minutes or so, the screen goes
blank, as though there is no signal or something.

It does this when both viewing in real time as well as when recording. When
this occurs the app also seems to crash - an error message says ¨Unknown
Error¨ and the mpeg stream is not/cannot be saved to the HDD.

Here are the basic specs:

Vision Plus Digital terrestrial PCI card
Win XP SP2
P4 3.0/512MB RAM

No screensaver enabled, only standby mode set is for the HDD (2 hours).

Have used the supplied app, as well as the ´Twinhan´ equivalent (looks like
the exact same programme).

Reception is fairly borderline - but it does hold a solid signal
particularly on all SBS and ABC channels, pixellation occurs infrequently.

If anyone knows of some good forums to deal with this problem I´d appreciate
it. I will post to a.t.digital as well.

So, anyone familiar with this problem? It appears that the app crashing may
be the cause, or is it a symptom?
TIA
--
/Jeßus/
Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows. - David T.
Wolf

[quietguy]

Might be worthwhile checking to see if it is a heat related fault - (spray cold
stuff on the card) (or maybe a gentle heat gun)

David

Jeßus wrote:

> Basically, the problem is that after about 15 minutes or so, the screen goes
> blank, as though there is no signal or something.
>
> It does this when both viewing in real time as well as when recording. When
> this occurs the app also seems to crash - an error message says ¨Unknown
> Error¨ and the mpeg stream is not/cannot be saved to the HDD.
>
> Here are the basic specs:
>
> Vision Plus Digital terrestrial PCI card
> Win XP SP2
> P4 3.0/512MB RAM
>
> No screensaver enabled, only standby mode set is for the HDD (2 hours).
>
> Have used the supplied app, as well as the ´Twinhan´ equivalent (looks like
> the exact same programme).
>
> Reception is fairly borderline - but it does hold a solid signal
> particularly on all SBS and ABC channels, pixellation occurs infrequently.
>
> If anyone knows of some good forums to deal with this problem I´d appreciate
> it. I will post to a.t.digital as well.
>
> So, anyone familiar with this problem? It appears that the app crashing may
> be the cause, or is it a symptom?
> TIA
> --
> /Jeßus/
> Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows. - David T.
> Wolf

[Warmingup]

"Stuff" should not be water.



"quietguy" <david1133@REMOVE-TO-REPLYoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
news:4206B591.17920D3D@REMOVE-TO-REPLYoptusnet.com.au...
> Might be worthwhile checking to see if it is a heat related fault - (spray
cold
> stuff on the card) (or maybe a gentle heat gun)
>
> David
>
> Jeßus wrote:
>
> > Basically, the problem is that after about 15 minutes or so, the screen
goes
> > blank, as though there is no signal or something.
> >
> > It does this when both viewing in real time as well as when recording.
When
> > this occurs the app also seems to crash - an error message says ¨Unknown
> > Error¨ and the mpeg stream is not/cannot be saved to the HDD.
> >
> > Here are the basic specs:
> >
> > Vision Plus Digital terrestrial PCI card
> > Win XP SP2
> > P4 3.0/512MB RAM
> >
> > No screensaver enabled, only standby mode set is for the HDD (2 hours).
> >
> > Have used the supplied app, as well as the ´Twinhan´ equivalent (looks
like
> > the exact same programme).
> >
> > Reception is fairly borderline - but it does hold a solid signal
> > particularly on all SBS and ABC channels, pixellation occurs
infrequently.
> >
> > If anyone knows of some good forums to deal with this problem I´d
appreciate
> > it. I will post to a.t.digital as well.
> >
> > So, anyone familiar with this problem? It appears that the app crashing
may
> > be the cause, or is it a symptom?
> > TIA
> > --
> > /Jeßus/
> > Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows. - David
T.
> > Wolf
>

[Jeßus]

quietguy wrote:

> Might be worthwhile checking to see if it is a heat related fault - (spray
> cold stuff on the card) (or maybe a gentle heat gun)

Any suggestions regarding the ´cold stuff´? Cant think of anything around
the house suitable at the moment.

The computer generally runs very cool, around 35C.

I do OTOH nad a heat gun... (!) I could probably use it from a safe
distance.


Thanks.

--
/Jeßus/
Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows. - David T.
Wolf

[Jeßus]

Warmingup wrote:

> "Stuff" should not be water.

:)

--
/Jeßus/
Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows. - David T.
Wolf

[Winston [ausWY]]

"Jeßus" <_._@ii.net> wrote in message news:1901082.y4oFXjmHbp@iijeebz.net...

> If anyone knows of some good forums to deal with this problem I´d
appreciate
> it. I will post to a.t.digital as well.

Try www.dtvforum.info or www.dvbowners.com both Australian run.

[quietguy]

Are you kidding? Of course I meant the cold spray sold to electronic
technicians for fault finding - it is designed for the specific purpose of
locating heat related faults - cant believe anyone would think I meant anything
else


David

Warmingup wrote:

> "Stuff" should not be water.
>
> "quietguy" <david1133@REMOVE-TO-REPLYoptusnet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4206B591.17920D3D@REMOVE-TO-REPLYoptusnet.com.au...
> > Might be worthwhile checking to see if it is a heat related fault - (spray
> cold
> > stuff on the card) (or maybe a gentle heat gun)
> >
> > David
> >
> >

[quietguy]

The 'cold stuff' is sold by electronic hobby/tech stores for finding heat
related faults in electronic/electrical equipment. I haven't bought any for so
long that I cant remember brand names etc, but if you ask at the store they
will know what yøu mean.

Of course you would use the cold spray after the fault has developed - if it
starts working when sprayed you are onto the area where the fault lies.

With the heat gun - since the fault appears after 15 minutes, you would tunr
the gear on, check that it is working correctly, then apply gentle heat to
specific areas - if the fault then appears you can see where the fault lies,

However, in that you asked about cold stuff lying around the house, this makes
me wonder if you are able to do this sort of fault finding safely - if not,
take it to a tech.

David

Jeßus wrote:

> quietguy wrote:
>
> > Might be worthwhile checking to see if it is a heat related fault - (spray
> > cold stuff on the card) (or maybe a gentle heat gun)
>
> Any suggestions regarding the ´cold stuff´? Cant think of anything around
> the house suitable at the moment.
>
> The computer generally runs very cool, around 35C.
>
> I do OTOH nad a heat gun... (!) I could probably use it from a safe
> distance.
>
> Thanks.
>
> --
> /Jeßus/
> Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows. - David T.
> Wolf

[Mike]

quietguy wrote:
> Are you kidding? Of course I meant the cold spray sold to electronic

Ah, yes. I believe he was kidding. I thought it was funny anyway. relax.

BTW, an easier test would just be to run it with the PC case open, and
make sure there is plenty of ventilation around the card. They do
get hot.

[quietguy]

Well, yes and no - while what you suggest might show that it is a heat
related fault, it wouldn't give you any indication about where the fault
may be - the cold spray can be directed onto a specific componant etc, so
can show whereabout the problem is.

David

Mike wrote:

> BTW, an easier test would just be to run it with the PC case open, and
> make sure there is plenty of ventilation around the card. They do
> get hot.

[Byron Forbes]

"Jeßus" <_._@ii.net> wrote in message news:1901082.y4oFXjmHbp@iijeebz.net...
> Basically, the problem is that after about 15 minutes or so, the screen
> goes
> blank, as though there is no signal or something.
>
> It does this when both viewing in real time as well as when recording.
> When
> this occurs the app also seems to crash - an error message says ¨Unknown
> Error¨ and the mpeg stream is not/cannot be saved to the HDD.
>
> Here are the basic specs:
>
> Vision Plus Digital terrestrial PCI card
> Win XP SP2
> P4 3.0/512MB RAM
>

That one of those cheapies from Scorptec - $75? I got one too if so.
Latest drivers and having arial pointed in a direction the card likes helped
me. Still waiting on drivers that let me view 4:3 in fullscreen! :( Good
value other than that though.

[Jeßus]

Jeßus wrote:

> Basically, the problem is that after about 15 minutes or so, the screen
> goes blank, as though there is no signal or something.

<snip>

Another update...

I have fixed the problem.

The problem was that I should´ve pulled out that card ages ago and put
something better in.

This I have now done... in went one FusionHDTV DVb-T Plus card.
The difference is just amazing, even with the dodgy reception here, all
channels come in rock solid... the software and remote so much more useful.
Its been running for a few hours now, and recording... it has been
faultless.

It also has an analogue video&audio input as well... I plan to hook my old
laserdisc player up and copy over some LDs I have that have never made it
to DVD. Of course, the quality remains to be seen...

The vision plus card is probably okay in an area where there is good
reception - but not here thats for sure.

Cheers,
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/Jeßus/
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uploads, is because they want to control us and US TO BE CONSUMERS -
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