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Keith Holley
28-02-2005, 01:03 PM
I have notices that all digital camera from top to bottom do not have
provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack of it.
The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
Most film 35mm all have it.

Another question pros and cons of Momopod as against Tripod.
Why many years a go a professional told me to use a momopod to shot trains
yet most people use a tripods while the professional press use momopods.

Thanking you in advance



Keith

Harvey
28-02-2005, 01:33 PM
"Keith Holley" <mailman@castlemaine.net> wrote in message
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The Fuji S7000 does :)

werdan
28-02-2005, 01:33 PM
"Keith Holley" <mailman@castlemaine.net> wrote in message
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> The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
> Most film 35mm all have it.

My Minolta 7D has one. It's a special Minolta one but it's the same one that
came with my 7000 almost 20 years ago. (Holy crap! Has it been a that long?)

> Another question pros and cons of Momopod as against Tripod.
> Why many years a go a professional told me to use a momopod to shot trains
> yet most people use a tripods while the professional press use momopods.
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A moNopod gives you portability against stability. It is usually lighter and
smaller than a tripod and people aren't going to trip over it in a crowd.
It's also much quicker to set up. You need to use your body to brace it so
you can't get really long shutter speeds out of it.

A compromise is to use 1 leg of the tripod extended as a monopod. You get
the portability and speed, just not the weight saving.

Tony Hwang
28-02-2005, 01:33 PM
Keith Holley wrote:
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> provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack of it.
> The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
> Most film 35mm all have it.
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> Another question pros and cons of Momopod as against Tripod.
> Why many years a go a professional told me to use a momopod to shot trains
> yet most people use a tripods while the professional press use momopods.
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Hi,
Some has remote control.
Tony

MC
28-02-2005, 01:33 PM
"Keith Holley" <mailman@castlemaine.net> wrote in message
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> I have notices that all digital camera from top to bottom do not have
> provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack of
> it.
> The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
> Most film 35mm all have it.
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A lot of digital cameras have the provision for a wireless remote control of
some kind or another (as an optional add-on). Mine does and its not exactly
high end.

MC

ZONED!
28-02-2005, 01:33 PM
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:55:02 +1100, Keith Holley
<mailman@castlemaine.net> wrote:

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>I have notices that all digital camera from top to bottom do not have
>provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack of it.
>The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
>Most film 35mm all have it.

Where did you get this information? Older cameras with little or no
electronics (save light meters) almost always did, but more recent
cameras with electronic shutters etc. seemed to have phased them out
often.

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>Another question pros and cons of Momopod as against Tripod.
>Why many years a go a professional told me to use a momopod to shot trains
>yet most people use a tripods while the professional press use momopods.
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Bill
28-02-2005, 02:03 PM
Keith Holley wrote:

>I have notices that all digital camera from top to bottom do not have
>provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack of it.
>The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
>Most film 35mm all have it.

Actually most, if not all, digital SLR cameras have a cable release of
some kind. Both of my SLR bodies (digital and 35mm) have it.

>Another question pros and cons of Momopod as against Tripod.
>Why many years a go a professional told me to use a momopod to shot trains
>yet most people use a tripods while the professional press use momopods.

A monopod is usually just for weight support of a large lense - it gets
tiresome holding a 5-10 pound lense.

A tripod is used for complete stability and isolation from camera shake,
often for long exposures.

Sheldon
28-02-2005, 02:03 PM
"Keith Holley" <mailman@castlemaine.net> wrote in message
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> I have notices that all digital camera from top to bottom do not have
> provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack of
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> The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
> Most film 35mm all have it.
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> Another question pros and cons of Momopod as against Tripod.
> Why many years a go a professional told me to use a momopod to shot trains
> yet most people use a tripods while the professional press use momopods.
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> Thanking you in advance
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I don't know why they did this. Some cameras do have provision for a cable
release, but many don't, and some DSLR's have provisions to lock up the
mirror, but many do not, except to clean the sensor.

Your options are often a wireless remote, that usually costs extra. Use the
timed shutter release, they almost all have this. And a few cameras, like
the D70, will allow the computer to trip the shutter when the camera is
connected to the computer with its USB cable. I can't think of any more,
but it still puzzles me they did away with this feature, especially on some
of the cameras they call "pro" models.

[BnH]
28-02-2005, 02:43 PM
Err ...
Pro camera ...
Nikon D1 and D2 family can have the MC-20 and MC-30 cable release
Canon 10D and 20D and 1D[s] family can use the RS-063 [ is it the correct
p/n ? :P ]
Fuji S2 Pro can use the threaded cable release

I have no idea on the Pentax, KM, Sigma , etc etc .

Pro's uses monopod as they can use their 2 legs to compliment the monopod
[ I think :P ]

=bob=



"Keith Holley" <mailman@castlemaine.net> wrote in message
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> I have notices that all digital camera from top to bottom do not have
> provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack of
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> The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
> Most film 35mm all have it.
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> Another question pros and cons of Momopod as against Tripod.
> Why many years a go a professional told me to use a momopod to shot trains
> yet most people use a tripods while the professional press use momopods.
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> Thanking you in advance
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dj_nme
28-02-2005, 02:43 PM
Keith Holley wrote:

> I have notices that all digital camera from top to bottom do not have
> provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack of it.
> The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
> Most film 35mm all have it.

Most of the older, manual focus SLR cameras have provision for a srew-in
cable release.
It seems that with the introduction of autofocus and lots of electronics
, the camera manufacturers each decided make a proprietary cable release
for their cameras.

> Another question pros and cons of Momopod as against Tripod.
> Why many years a go a professional told me to use a momopod to shot trains
> yet most people use a tripods while the professional press use momopods.

Monopds are realy for when there is limited room and/or limited weight
carrying capacity.
If you have to lug the damn thing around all day and don't plan on
taking any realy long exposures (eg: a daytime event), then a monopod
would be more than adequate for the task.
They are great for stablising long lenses when you may need to move
around quickly and don't want to take up much room.

> Thanking you in advance
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David Dyer-Bennet
28-02-2005, 02:43 PM
Keith Holley <mailman@castlemaine.net> writes:

> I have notices that all digital camera from top to bottom do not have
> provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack of it.
> The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.

The Fuji S2 will take a conventional mechanical cable release.

> Most film 35mm all have it.

Not any more. Many of them only take an electronic remote of some
sort.

> Another question pros and cons of Momopod as against Tripod.
> Why many years a go a professional told me to use a momopod to shot trains
> yet most people use a tripods while the professional press use momopods.

A monopod stabilizes you in one dimension, a tripod in three. A
monopod is easier to move quickly with, and takes up less space. For
many press photographer purposes, a monopod is sufficient, and the
benefits important. For a landscape photographer, a monopod really
isn't stable enough, and the benefits aren't very important.

Both are good tools for certain things; not the same things. You need
to pick your tools to match the photos you want to take.
--
David Dyer-Bennet, <mailto:dd-b@dd-b.net>, <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/>
RKBA: <http://noguns-nomoney.com/> <http://www.dd-b.net/carry/>
Pics: <http://dd-b.lighthunters.net/> <http://www.dd-b.net/dd-b/SnapshotAlbum/>
Dragaera/Steven Brust: <http://dragaera.info/>

Frank ess
28-02-2005, 03:53 PM
Keith Holley wrote:
> I have notices that all digital camera from top to bottom do not have
> provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack
> of it. The professional digital camera have remote control but not
> cable release. Most film 35mm all have it.
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> Another question pros and cons of Momopod as against Tripod.
> Why many years a go a professional told me to use a momopod to shot
> trains yet most people use a tripods while the professional press use
> momopods.
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When digital got to the point serious manufacturers started to make
cameras interesting to serious users, there was a lot of discussion
about that, and lots of solutions. I think manufacturers saw a new
source of revenue. In particular, Nikon offered a $120 timer and remote
for the Coolpix 995. At least one user solved it in his shop, building a
clamp-on bracket that let a conventional cable release pin push the
995's shutter button. There was a Web page with step-by-step
instructions. It may still be out there.

Monopods are cool and handy. You must provide the two missing
stabilizers with parts of your body or other features of the
environment. Some people are good at it, others not so. Practice,
practice, practice.


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Frank ess

Forecasting is difficult. Particularly about the Future.
-Deepak Gupta

Ron Hunter
28-02-2005, 05:44 PM
Keith Holley wrote:
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> I have notices that all digital camera from top to bottom do not have
> provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack of it.
> The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
> Most film 35mm all have it.
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> Another question pros and cons of Momopod as against Tripod.
> Why many years a go a professional told me to use a momopod to shot trains
> yet most people use a tripods while the professional press use momopods.
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You can pan with a monopod, and you can lean it in various ways, which
may be a bit difficult with an inexpensive tripod. Obviously, the
tripod is superior for 'unattended' shots.


--
Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net

Vincent
28-02-2005, 08:13 PM
"Ron Hunter" <rphunter@charter.net> wrote in message
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> Keith Holley wrote:
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>> I have notices that all digital camera from top to bottom do not have
>> provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack of
>> it.
>> The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable
>> release.
>> Most film 35mm all have it. Another question pros and cons of Momopod
>> as against Tripod.
>> Why many years a go a professional told me to use a momopod to shot
>> trains
>> yet most people use a tripods while the professional press use momopods.
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>> Thanking you in advance
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> You can pan with a monopod, and you can lean it in various ways, which may
> be a bit difficult with an inexpensive tripod. Obviously, the tripod is
> superior for 'unattended' shots.
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> Ron Hunter rphunter@charter.net

I have three tripods, super short 200mm, , short 350mm. and 135cm for my
5500 and it works great on unnatended shots and also movie shots, never
thought of using a mono

Piemanlager
28-02-2005, 10:23 PM
"Keith Holley" <mailman@castlemaine.net> wrote in message
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Minolta 7d has cable realease.

A monopd can give you that bit of extra stability for long lens use yet is
still fairly easy to pick up and run with. Thats why many sports pros use
them if they need to be moving around a venue often to get the shots
required.

Tripod give you better stability but of course its not so portable.


> The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
> Most film 35mm all have it.
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> Why many years a go a professional told me to use a momopod to shot trains
> yet most people use a tripods while the professional press use momopods.
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Michael Meissner
01-03-2005, 12:13 AM
Keith Holley <mailman@castlemaine.net> writes:

> I have notices that all digital camera from top to bottom do not have
> provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack of it.
> The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
> Most film 35mm all have it.

Many medium/high end digital cameras do have the capability of using a cable
release, though often these are specific to that model, do not come as part of
the standard package, and often are pricy compared to the cable releases of
yore. Some times you also have to buy the vertical grip to get a cable socket
(for example on the Olympus C-8080 and E-300/E-VOLT cameras). For shooting in
a studio, many cameras can be controled by computer via the USB/firewire cable.

> Another question pros and cons of Momopod as against Tripod.
> Why many years a go a professional told me to use a momopod to shot trains
> yet most people use a tripods while the professional press use momopods.

I don't own a monopod, but I would imagine a tripod gives much better
stabalization than a mono-pod, which I've seen figures quoted that it will give
you roughly two stops worth of stabalization. On the other hand, a mono-pod is
much easier to setup, is easier to carry, and doesn't require the floor space
that a tripod would. The later may be important in the press pool situation
where you seem to have all of the photographers crowded together.

--
Michael Meissner
email: mrmnews@the-meissners.org
http://www.the-meissners.org

Michael Meissner
01-03-2005, 12:13 AM
Keith Holley <mailman@castlemaine.net> writes:

> I have notices that all digital camera from top to bottom do not have
> provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack of it.
> The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
> Most film 35mm all have it.

I forgot to mention in my previous post, another solution is to make an
attachment over the shutter to use a range finder cable release. Or you might
be able to use the Kaiser strap that does this:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=WishList.jsp&A=details&Q=&sku=109447&is=REG

--
Michael Meissner
email: mrmnews@the-meissners.org
http://www.the-meissners.org

k
01-03-2005, 12:43 AM
"Keith Holley" <mailman@castlemaine.net> wrote in message
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| The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
| Most film 35mm all have it.


the Sony f717 / f828 do


k

Dave
01-03-2005, 02:33 AM
On 28 Feb 2005 07:37:00 -0500, Michael Meissner
<mrmnews@the-meissners.org> wrote:

>Keith Holley <mailman@castlemaine.net> writes:
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>> I have notices that all digital camera from top to bottom do not have
>> provision for cable shutter release is there any reason for the lack of it.
>> The professional digital camera have remote control but not cable release.
>> Most film 35mm all have it.
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>I forgot to mention in my previous post, another solution is to make an
>attachment over the shutter to use a range finder cable release. Or you might
>be able to use the Kaiser strap that does this:
>http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=WishList.jsp&A=details&Q=&sku=109447&is=REG

This guy built his own:

http://www.mediachance.com/digicam/cablerelease/

Dave

ZONED!
01-03-2005, 02:33 AM
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:37:26 +0800, "k" <felaffel@PING.com> wrote:

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I looked here: http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/sonydscf828/ I do not
see any mention and the shutter release button has noi threads. Am I
missing something?