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  1. #1
    GB Guest

    Air Show Down Under 2005 Photos

    The last time I went to the Air Show was back in '95 with a F601 and a cheap
    Sigma 300mm zoom. I took about 2 rolls at most.

    This time I went with my D100, 70-200VR and TC-20E 2x, and I sat in the
    grandstand rather than general admission (so much more comfortable!). I
    shot 1195 shots. To get access to the whopping 6 frame buffer of the D100 I
    shot in jpg fine (RAW is only 4). Santa, please bring me a D2x (I can dream
    about it anyway). A lot of the shots were a little soft with the lens
    combo, but I also think it was a bit of the D100's AF missing it slightly as
    many shots were very sharp showing what the lens can do.

    Most shots were manual 1000/f5.6, with a few varied to 1/800 and 1/640 as
    the sun position changed to overhead and the lower part of the planes became
    more in shadow more often.

    This slideshow is generated with the XP Powertoys and is about 4MB total.
    It is 107 images from start to end, including one of my ugly scone. I don't
    think the filmstrip and preview mode won't work properly unless you allow
    the Microsoft Active X control the powertoy implants.

    I hope you like them

    http://www.dilithium.com.au/photos/airshow_05

    These shots are all from one day, Sunday. The morning Sun was great, coming
    from behind but as the Sun rose to overhead it caused a lot of problems,
    especially with the cloud to the right of the airfield that steadily
    increased throughout the day. Most of the better shots came from aircraft
    passing left to right, or as they flew off to the left.

    Images are as taken. I haven't done any processing on any of them in any
    way, and while some could certainly benefit from them, for sharing I feel
    like it would be cheating a bit.

    Cheers

    Guy



  2. #2
    Mick Brown Guest

    Re: Air Show Down Under 2005 Photos

    "GB" <guy@dilithiumNO_SPAM.com.au> wrote in
    news:423fd455$0$18673$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:

    > The last time I went to the Air Show was back in '95 with a F601 and a
    > cheap Sigma 300mm zoom. I took about 2 rolls at most.
    >
    > This time I went with my D100, 70-200VR and TC-20E 2x, and I sat in
    > the grandstand rather than general admission (so much more
    > comfortable!). I shot 1195 shots. To get access to the whopping 6
    > frame buffer of the D100 I shot in jpg fine (RAW is only 4). Santa,
    > please bring me a D2x (I can dream about it anyway). A lot of the
    > shots were a little soft with the lens combo, but I also think it was
    > a bit of the D100's AF missing it slightly as many shots were very
    > sharp showing what the lens can do.
    >
    > Most shots were manual 1000/f5.6, with a few varied to 1/800 and 1/640
    > as the sun position changed to overhead and the lower part of the
    > planes became more in shadow more often.
    >
    > This slideshow is generated with the XP Powertoys and is about 4MB
    > total. It is 107 images from start to end, including one of my ugly
    > scone. I don't think the filmstrip and preview mode won't work
    > properly unless you allow the Microsoft Active X control the powertoy
    > implants.
    >
    > I hope you like them
    >
    > http://www.dilithium.com.au/photos/airshow_05
    >
    > These shots are all from one day, Sunday. The morning Sun was great,
    > coming from behind but as the Sun rose to overhead it caused a lot of
    > problems, especially with the cloud to the right of the airfield that
    > steadily increased throughout the day. Most of the better shots came
    > from aircraft passing left to right, or as they flew off to the left.
    >
    > Images are as taken. I haven't done any processing on any of them in
    > any way, and while some could certainly benefit from them, for sharing
    > I feel like it would be cheating a bit.
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > Guy
    >
    >


    Lucky bugger, I wanted to go but other commitments stuffed me up. I did
    however drive past there just in time for an F1-11 (I think) to fly over
    me and turn (scared the crap out of my Wife & Daughter as I had the
    sunroof open). There was a lot of people pulled over on the side of
    Geelong Rd watching and a few police & RTA moving them along, however I
    seen a Bike copper pulled over, lights flashing while he took a snap of
    the jet.

    Anyway to your shots, Not bad looking shots, I have that same lens and
    TC set up which I use on the D70, and am quite happy with the results, I
    think some of yours look a bit soft due to the resizing to put on the
    web. What do you use to resize? It is always good practice to give
    Jpegs a light sharpen after you resize as they do soften when downsized.

    Anyway back to scrolling through the pics to see what I missed.

    Mick Brown
    www.photo.net/photos/mlbrown

  3. #3
    Noddy1961 Guest

    Re: Air Show Down Under 2005 Photos

    hey much better than the shit my missus shot after letting her take my S1
    IS, the kids took better shots with the old A20 wish I got there myself,
    work commitments again, aint been there yet worse part is they all fly over
    my house all day long at the back of Werribee, we're on the turning circle
    for Avalon. Reckon I woulda got better pics from the back yard than she
    managed from the starting grid so to speak, but at least she tried, with
    about 5 min of how to use the camera .

    "GB" <guy@dilithiumNO_SPAM.com.au> wrote in message
    news:423fd455$0$18673$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
    The last time I went to the Air Show was back in '95 with a F601 and a cheap
    Sigma 300mm zoom. I took about 2 rolls at most.

    This time I went with my D100, 70-200VR and TC-20E 2x, and I sat in the
    grandstand rather than general admission (so much more comfortable!). I
    shot 1195 shots. To get access to the whopping 6 frame buffer of the D100 I
    shot in jpg fine (RAW is only 4). Santa, please bring me a D2x (I can dream
    about it anyway). A lot of the shots were a little soft with the lens
    combo, but I also think it was a bit of the D100's AF missing it slightly as
    many shots were very sharp showing what the lens can do.

    Most shots were manual 1000/f5.6, with a few varied to 1/800 and 1/640 as
    the sun position changed to overhead and the lower part of the planes became
    more in shadow more often.

    This slideshow is generated with the XP Powertoys and is about 4MB total.
    It is 107 images from start to end, including one of my ugly scone. I don't
    think the filmstrip and preview mode won't work properly unless you allow
    the Microsoft Active X control the powertoy implants.

    I hope you like them

    http://www.dilithium.com.au/photos/airshow_05

    These shots are all from one day, Sunday. The morning Sun was great, coming
    from behind but as the Sun rose to overhead it caused a lot of problems,
    especially with the cloud to the right of the airfield that steadily
    increased throughout the day. Most of the better shots came from aircraft
    passing left to right, or as they flew off to the left.

    Images are as taken. I haven't done any processing on any of them in any
    way, and while some could certainly benefit from them, for sharing I feel
    like it would be cheating a bit.

    Cheers

    Guy




  4. #4
    GB Guest

    Re: Air Show Down Under 2005 Photos

    "Mick Brown" <nmcs_remove_@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
    news:Xns9622C428E98F5nmcsbigpondnetau@61.9.191.5.. .
    > "GB" <guy@dilithiumNO_SPAM.com.au> wrote in
    > news:423fd455$0$18673$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au:
    >...
    > Anyway to your shots, Not bad looking shots, I have that same lens and
    > TC set up which I use on the D70, and am quite happy with the results, I
    > think some of yours look a bit soft due to the resizing to put on the
    > web. What do you use to resize? It is always good practice to give
    > Jpegs a light sharpen after you resize as they do soften when downsized.


    They were just converted using the Microsoft PowerToy SlideShow viewer,
    which does use pretty heavy compression but takes about 3 min to put the
    whole slide show together... It does reduce the sharpness even more, but I
    also think the 70-200VR + TC20E set the standard to start with. I'd have
    been better off in many cases with just the 70-200 and shooting RAW.
    Hopefully by the next time I go, probably '09, I'll have something like a
    D2x so I'll have a high RAW buffer, and with the crop mode a similar framing
    capability to the TC-20 on a D100 (ie I don't mind 6MP if they are sharp).

    The second shot of the F-15 did print quite well to A3 so they sefinelty
    arn't as soft as the little jpgs make them look.

    I've seen some shots from the show with the 200-400 f/4 on a D100 and it was
    just stunning, but then it costs about the same as a D2x. If you had US$5k
    what would you get? Probably the D2x, even though the 200-400 would be the
    better long term purchase.

    >
    > Anyway back to scrolling through the pics to see what I missed.


    Hope they good enough to sit through.

    >
    > Mick Brown
    > www.photo.net/photos/mlbrown




  5. #5
    Lyn Guest

    Re: Air Show Down Under 2005 Photos

    Good shots, but definately use a different resize program - very pixelated
    (look at the edges of the wings).
    Always a compromise between quality & size. They are great pictures but the
    bad resize does detract from viewing.
    Don't know if you can do this with XP Powertoys but I sometimes cheat by
    using one program for the front-end look & then overwriting the online image
    files with the photoshop version, works for any program that saves each
    image separately.

    Thanks for posting these Guy.

    - Lyn

    _----------
    "Noddy1961" <noddy1961@home.com> wrote in message
    news:9Ge0e.9148$C7.1170@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    > hey much better than the shit my missus shot after letting her take my S1
    > IS, the kids took better shots with the old A20 wish I got there myself,
    > work commitments again, aint been there yet worse part is they all fly
    > over
    > my house all day long at the back of Werribee, we're on the turning circle
    > for Avalon. Reckon I woulda got better pics from the back yard than she
    > managed from the starting grid so to speak, but at least she tried, with
    > about 5 min of how to use the camera .
    >
    > "GB" <guy@dilithiumNO_SPAM.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:423fd455$0$18673$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
    > The last time I went to the Air Show was back in '95 with a F601 and a
    > cheap
    > Sigma 300mm zoom. I took about 2 rolls at most.
    >
    > This time I went with my D100, 70-200VR and TC-20E 2x, and I sat in the
    > grandstand rather than general admission (so much more comfortable!). I
    > shot 1195 shots. To get access to the whopping 6 frame buffer of the D100
    > I
    > shot in jpg fine (RAW is only 4). Santa, please bring me a D2x (I can
    > dream
    > about it anyway). A lot of the shots were a little soft with the lens
    > combo, but I also think it was a bit of the D100's AF missing it slightly
    > as
    > many shots were very sharp showing what the lens can do.
    >
    > Most shots were manual 1000/f5.6, with a few varied to 1/800 and 1/640 as
    > the sun position changed to overhead and the lower part of the planes
    > became
    > more in shadow more often.
    >
    > This slideshow is generated with the XP Powertoys and is about 4MB total.
    > It is 107 images from start to end, including one of my ugly scone. I
    > don't
    > think the filmstrip and preview mode won't work properly unless you allow
    > the Microsoft Active X control the powertoy implants.
    >
    > I hope you like them
    >
    > http://www.dilithium.com.au/photos/airshow_05
    >
    > These shots are all from one day, Sunday. The morning Sun was great,
    > coming
    > from behind but as the Sun rose to overhead it caused a lot of problems,
    > especially with the cloud to the right of the airfield that steadily
    > increased throughout the day. Most of the better shots came from aircraft
    > passing left to right, or as they flew off to the left.
    >
    > Images are as taken. I haven't done any processing on any of them in any
    > way, and while some could certainly benefit from them, for sharing I feel
    > like it would be cheating a bit.
    >
    > Cheers
    >
    > Guy
    >
    >
    >




  6. #6
    GB Guest

    Re: Air Show Down Under 2005 Photos

    Thanks Lyn,

    I guess it is a trade off with time. Now the template is established though
    I could batch resample with PS to the same pixel dimensions with less
    compression, but then it would also lead to larger load time for you guys.
    Not such a worry for a few images but there are over 100 ;-)

    Cheers

    Guy

    "Lyn" <lyn brock @ optusnet . com . au (remove spaces)> wrote in message
    news:4244b29d$0$29450$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
    > Good shots, but definately use a different resize program - very pixelated
    > (look at the edges of the wings).
    > Always a compromise between quality & size. They are great pictures but
    > the bad resize does detract from viewing.
    > Don't know if you can do this with XP Powertoys but I sometimes cheat by
    > using one program for the front-end look & then overwriting the online
    > image files with the photoshop version, works for any program that saves
    > each image separately.
    >
    > Thanks for posting these Guy.
    >
    > - Lyn
    >
    > _----------
    > "Noddy1961" <noddy1961@home.com> wrote in message
    > news:9Ge0e.9148$C7.1170@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    >> hey much better than the shit my missus shot after letting her take my S1
    >> IS, the kids took better shots with the old A20 wish I got there myself,
    >> work commitments again, aint been there yet worse part is they all fly
    >> over
    >> my house all day long at the back of Werribee, we're on the turning
    >> circle
    >> for Avalon. Reckon I woulda got better pics from the back yard than she
    >> managed from the starting grid so to speak, but at least she tried, with
    >> about 5 min of how to use the camera .
    >>
    >> "GB" <guy@dilithiumNO_SPAM.com.au> wrote in message
    >> news:423fd455$0$18673$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
    >> The last time I went to the Air Show was back in '95 with a F601 and a
    >> cheap
    >> Sigma 300mm zoom. I took about 2 rolls at most.
    >>
    >> This time I went with my D100, 70-200VR and TC-20E 2x, and I sat in the
    >> grandstand rather than general admission (so much more comfortable!). I
    >> shot 1195 shots. To get access to the whopping 6 frame buffer of the
    >> D100 I
    >> shot in jpg fine (RAW is only 4). Santa, please bring me a D2x (I can
    >> dream
    >> about it anyway). A lot of the shots were a little soft with the lens
    >> combo, but I also think it was a bit of the D100's AF missing it slightly
    >> as
    >> many shots were very sharp showing what the lens can do.
    >>
    >> Most shots were manual 1000/f5.6, with a few varied to 1/800 and 1/640 as
    >> the sun position changed to overhead and the lower part of the planes
    >> became
    >> more in shadow more often.
    >>
    >> This slideshow is generated with the XP Powertoys and is about 4MB total.
    >> It is 107 images from start to end, including one of my ugly scone. I
    >> don't
    >> think the filmstrip and preview mode won't work properly unless you allow
    >> the Microsoft Active X control the powertoy implants.
    >>
    >> I hope you like them
    >>
    >> http://www.dilithium.com.au/photos/airshow_05
    >>
    >> These shots are all from one day, Sunday. The morning Sun was great,
    >> coming
    >> from behind but as the Sun rose to overhead it caused a lot of problems,
    >> especially with the cloud to the right of the airfield that steadily
    >> increased throughout the day. Most of the better shots came from
    >> aircraft
    >> passing left to right, or as they flew off to the left.
    >>
    >> Images are as taken. I haven't done any processing on any of them in any
    >> way, and while some could certainly benefit from them, for sharing I feel
    >> like it would be cheating a bit.
    >>
    >> Cheers
    >>
    >> Guy
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    >




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