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  1. #1
    Dan--- Guest

    This is the big 6 that the commode should have

    http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/at_010424.htm

    Vortec 4200 Inline 6-cylinder engine
    275 hp (205 kw) 275 lb ft (373 nm)

    it can be easily tweaked to produce more power and torque

    --
    Regards Dan



  2. #2
    Toby Ponsenby Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have

    On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:49:59 +1000, Dan--- wrote:

    > http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/at_010424.htm
    >
    > Vortec 4200 Inline 6-cylinder engine
    > 275 hp (205 kw) 275 lb ft (373 nm)
    >
    > it can be easily tweaked to produce more power and torque


    Magic engine.
    But
    GM is STILL geared up to build a FWD Commode, and won't play the L6
    game here any time soon.
    With them and Ford it's whoever blinks first, because the first to do
    the FWD shaft on Au will be in the doldrums while their marketing
    jerkoffs convince the wood-ducks it is a Good Thing - which process
    will cost considerably.
    No matter though, the decreased cost of production will win in the end
    and simplified future model planning will win out in the end.
    And then there's the matter of reduced public liability premiums:-)


    --
    Toby.
    quidquid latine dictum
    sit, altum viditur

  3. #3
    Dan--- Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have

    "Toby Ponsenby" <toby@privacy.net> wrote in message
    news:moxs21tj588u$.jf9zrg0yn4k8.dlg@40tude.net...
    > On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:49:59 +1000, Dan--- wrote:
    >
    > > http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/at_010424.htm
    > >
    > > Vortec 4200 Inline 6-cylinder engine
    > > 275 hp (205 kw) 275 lb ft (373 nm)
    > >
    > > it can be easily tweaked to produce more power and torque

    >
    > Magic engine.
    > But
    > GM is STILL geared up to build a FWD Commode, and won't play the L6
    > game here any time soon.


    Erm no there isn't any plans for a FWD commode since the new RWD Zeta
    platform is going to be used. No one would want to buy a V8 commode if it
    has FWD sales will drop like the Magna's. GM in the states is slowly
    bringing RWD cars into the field of things. For the Holden and Ford nuts out
    there if Holden and Ford changed their RWD cars to FWD the outcome is going
    to be ugly.



  4. #4
    Serialpest Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have

    On 16/4/05 5:49 PM, in article Wq38e.714$oa7.11339@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au,
    "Dan---" <nospam@thansx.com> wrote:

    > http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/at_010424.htm
    >
    > Vortec 4200 Inline 6-cylinder engine
    > 275 hp (205 kw) 275 lb ft (373 nm)
    >
    > it can be easily tweaked to produce more power and torque


    You and your GM crap! its another truck engine Bawahahahahaaha!!!!1


  5. #5
    sheik yerbouti Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have

    On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 17:49:59 +1000, "Dan---" <nospam@thansx.com>
    wrote:

    >http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/at_010424.htm
    >
    >Vortec 4200 Inline 6-cylinder engine
    >275 hp (205 kw) 275 lb ft (373 nm)
    >
    >it can be easily tweaked to produce more power and torque


    looks a bit pricey!

    ---
    sheik's auto service centre
    88 Wilsons Rd Doncaster 3108
    (03) 8855 8077, http://www.freewebs.com/sheik_yerbouti
    specialising in transmission service
    5% discount if you say you saw us on aus.cars

  6. #6
    sheik yerbouti Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have

    On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 18:10:42 +1000, "Dan---" <nospam@thansx.com>
    wrote:

    >Erm no there isn't any plans for a FWD commode since the new RWD Zeta
    >platform is going to be used. No one would want to buy a V8 commode if it
    >has FWD sales will drop like the Magna's. GM in the states is slowly
    >bringing RWD cars into the field of things. For the Holden and Ford nuts out
    >there if Holden and Ford changed their RWD cars to FWD the outcome is going
    >to be ugly.
    >


    i predict it will happen at some stage.

    zeta platform certainly is happening but its viability is
    questionable.

    ---
    sheik's auto service centre
    88 Wilsons Rd Doncaster 3108
    (03) 8855 8077, http://www.freewebs.com/sheik_yerbouti
    specialising in transmission service
    5% discount if you say you saw us on aus.cars

  7. #7
    Andrew Puddifer Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have

    Dan--- wrote:

    > http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/at_010424.htm
    >
    > Vortec 4200 Inline 6-cylinder engine
    > 275 hp (205 kw) 275 lb ft (373 nm)
    >
    > it can be easily tweaked to produce more power and torque
    >

    You clearly miss GM Australia's whole philosophy. Keep on soldiering
    on with an old design that was not even particularly powerful or refined
    in it's day, and just tweak it a bit to fit into emissions regulations.
    Same goes with their body design philosophy....just change the
    headlights, grill, tail lights and add some weird creases in the
    sheetmetal, and on one will know it's not a VN...

    Regards, Andrew.

  8. #8
    Rainbow Warrior Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have

    "Andrew Puddifer" <sideslip@tpg.spamfree.com.au> wrote in message
    news:4260fd8c@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
    > Dan--- wrote:
    >

    http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/at_010424.htm
    > >
    > > Vortec 4200 Inline 6-cylinder engine
    > > 275 hp (205 kw) 275 lb ft (373 nm)
    > >
    > > it can be easily tweaked to produce more power and torque
    > >

    > You clearly miss GM Australia's whole philosophy. Keep on soldiering
    > on with an old design that was not even particularly powerful or refined
    > in it's day, and just tweak it a bit to fit into emissions regulations.
    > Same goes with their body design philosophy....just change the
    > headlights, grill, tail lights and add some weird creases in the
    > sheetmetal, and on one will know it's not a VN...
    >
    > Regards, Andrew.


    Yep, instead of pooring millions into research to get 5kw by fidly high
    tech, they just bore/stroke her out a bit and make some cheap minor
    improvements. But don't let us stop you paying an extra $5k for a vehicle
    with a new high tech shiney wizz bang unproven motor that will only save you
    $2k in fuel during the 2 years you own it.





  9. #9
    Toby Ponsenby Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have

    On Sat, 16 Apr 2005 23:03:30 +1000, Rainbow Warrior wrote:

    > "Andrew Puddifer" <sideslip@tpg.spamfree.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:4260fd8c@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
    >> Dan--- wrote:
    >>

    > http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/at_010424.htm
    >>>
    >>> Vortec 4200 Inline 6-cylinder engine
    >>> 275 hp (205 kw) 275 lb ft (373 nm)
    >>>
    >>> it can be easily tweaked to produce more power and torque
    >>>

    >> You clearly miss GM Australia's whole philosophy. Keep on soldiering
    >> on with an old design that was not even particularly powerful or refined
    >> in it's day, and just tweak it a bit to fit into emissions regulations.
    >> Same goes with their body design philosophy....just change the
    >> headlights, grill, tail lights and add some weird creases in the
    >> sheetmetal, and on one will know it's not a VN...
    >>
    >> Regards, Andrew.

    >
    > Yep, instead of pooring millions into research to get 5kw by fidly high
    > tech, they just bore/stroke her out a bit and make some cheap minor
    > improvements. But don't let us stop you paying an extra $5k for a vehicle
    > with a new high tech shiney wizz bang unproven motor that will only save you
    > $2k in fuel during the 2 years you own it.


    Makes perfect sense.
    To some.
    You guess who.

    --
    Toby.
    quidquid latine dictum
    sit, altum viditur

  10. #10
    kevcat Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have



    Rainbow Warrior wrote:
    >
    > "Andrew Puddifer" <sideslip@tpg.spamfree.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:4260fd8c@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
    > > Dan--- wrote:
    > >

    > http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/at_010424.htm
    > > >
    > > > Vortec 4200 Inline 6-cylinder engine
    > > > 275 hp (205 kw) 275 lb ft (373 nm)
    > > >
    > > > it can be easily tweaked to produce more power and torque
    > > >

    > > You clearly miss GM Australia's whole philosophy. Keep on soldiering
    > > on with an old design that was not even particularly powerful or refined
    > > in it's day, and just tweak it a bit to fit into emissions regulations.
    > > Same goes with their body design philosophy....just change the
    > > headlights, grill, tail lights and add some weird creases in the
    > > sheetmetal, and on one will know it's not a VN...
    > >
    > > Regards, Andrew.

    >
    > Yep, instead of pooring millions into research to get 5kw by fidly high
    > tech, they just bore/stroke her out a bit and make some cheap minor
    > improvements. But don't let us stop you paying an extra $5k for a vehicle
    > with a new high tech shiney wizz bang unproven motor that will only save you
    > $2k in fuel during the 2 years you own it.



    Come on Pat
    someone has to prove the new Ford engine, it seems to be going fine, and
    why is it loosers with VN/VP with spoilers want to race me all the time,
    and lose if I'm in the mood

    my car is basic XT, it has an XR6/8 boot spoiler and 17x8 alloys and
    thats it

    anyone know of common things that go wrong with the BA

    I've seen the drivers seat base, door, kick panel and console plastic
    problems
    had the bonnet release break, common so Ford tell me
    the crappy drink holder lid

    now we are having the heater core inside replaced, and possibly the
    carpet if it is ruined by the smell of coolent leaking onto it

    all this is under warrenty of course, but still

    have these problems been fixed with the series II?


    Kev

  11. #11
    Tsunami Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have


    "Dan---" <nospam@thansx.com> wrote in message
    news:Wq38e.714$oa7.11339@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
    > http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/at_010424.htm
    >
    > Vortec 4200 Inline 6-cylinder engine
    > 275 hp (205 kw) 275 lb ft (373 nm)
    >
    > it can be easily tweaked to produce more power and torque
    >
    > --
    > Regards Dan
    >
    >

    When the 4A-GE Corolla motor produced 100kW out of 1.6L in the late 80's????
    I know we have tougher emission regs now but geeez.
    205kW from 4.2L is nothing to get a fat over... regardless of the (OK)
    torque figure.

    1100Hp from TRD's 2.3L Celica GT4 motor (stroked and forced induction yes I
    know) in 1995... thats excitement.

    Over 600Hp per litre from my R/C race car 2 stroke on methanol / 30%
    nitro.... thats excitement.



  12. #12
    Richard Fay Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have


    "Serialpest" <commodoredestroyer@mitsubishi.com.au> wrote in message
    news:BE8707BC.2E90A%commodoredestroyer@mitsubishi. com.au...
    > On 16/4/05 5:49 PM, in article Wq38e.714$oa7.11339@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au,
    > "Dan---" <nospam@thansx.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    > You and your GM crap! its another truck engine Bawahahahahaaha!!!!1
    >


    Guess what the ford V8 engine is :)



  13. #13
    Jason James Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have


    "Dan---" <nospam@thansx.com> wrote in message
    news:Wq38e.714$oa7.11339@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
    > http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/at_010424.htm
    >
    > Vortec 4200 Inline 6-cylinder engine
    > 275 hp (205 kw) 275 lb ft (373 nm)
    >
    > it can be easily tweaked to produce more power and torque
    >
    > --
    > Regards Dan


    They tested a couple at WOT for the equivalent of 300,000 miles? Nice
    trick,...but how?

    Jason



  14. #14
    Rainbow Warrior Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have

    "kevcat" <kevcat@dodo.com.au> wrote in message
    news:42611B10.990160@dodo.com.au...
    >
    > Rainbow Warrior wrote:
    > >
    > > "Andrew Puddifer" <sideslip@tpg.spamfree.com.au> wrote in message
    > > news:4260fd8c@dnews.tpgi.com.au...
    > > > Dan--- wrote:
    > > >

    http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/at_010424.htm
    > > > >
    > > > > Vortec 4200 Inline 6-cylinder engine
    > > > > 275 hp (205 kw) 275 lb ft (373 nm)
    > > > >
    > > > > it can be easily tweaked to produce more power and torque
    > > > >
    > > > You clearly miss GM Australia's whole philosophy. Keep on

    soldiering
    > > > on with an old design that was not even particularly powerful or

    refined
    > > > in it's day, and just tweak it a bit to fit into emissions

    regulations.
    > > > Same goes with their body design philosophy....just change the
    > > > headlights, grill, tail lights and add some weird creases in the
    > > > sheetmetal, and on one will know it's not a VN...
    > > >
    > > > Regards, Andrew.

    > >
    > > Yep, instead of pooring millions into research to get 5kw by fidly high
    > > tech, they just bore/stroke her out a bit and make some cheap minor
    > > improvements. But don't let us stop you paying an extra $5k for a

    vehicle
    > > with a new high tech shiney wizz bang unproven motor that will only save

    you
    > > $2k in fuel during the 2 years you own it.

    >
    > Come on Pat
    > someone has to prove the new Ford engine, it seems to be going fine, and
    > why is it loosers with VN/VP with spoilers want to race me all the time,
    > and lose if I'm in the mood


    Why did motorbikes want to race my Econovan? :-)
    I'm talking engines in general really.
    Fords have traditionally had a good strong driveline even if it's not the
    fastest, nothing else would survive my Dads lack of maintenance and neglect
    for so long.

    > my car is basic XT, it has an XR6/8 boot spoiler and 17x8 alloys and
    > thats it
    >
    > anyone know of common things that go wrong with the BA
    >
    > I've seen the drivers seat base, door, kick panel and console plastic
    > problems
    > had the bonnet release break, common so Ford tell me
    > the crappy drink holder lid
    >
    > now we are having the heater core inside replaced, and possibly the
    > carpet if it is ruined by the smell of coolent leaking onto it
    >
    > all this is under warrenty of course, but still
    >
    > have these problems been fixed with the series II?
    >
    > Kev




  15. #15
    Rainbow Warrior Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have

    "Jason James" <associate@dodo.comzapspam.au> wrote in message
    news:d3rt5g$cl8$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
    >
    > "Dan---" <nospam@thansx.com> wrote in message
    > news:Wq38e.714$oa7.11339@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...
    > > http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/jk/at_010424.htm
    > >
    > > Vortec 4200 Inline 6-cylinder engine
    > > 275 hp (205 kw) 275 lb ft (373 nm)
    > >
    > > it can be easily tweaked to produce more power and torque
    > >
    > > --
    > > Regards Dan

    >
    > They tested a couple at WOT for the equivalent of 300,000 miles? Nice
    > trick,...but how?
    >
    > Jason


    Couple of besa Blocks & a house brick.



  16. #16
    sheik yerbouti Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have

    On Sun, 17 Apr 2005 07:24:11 +1000, "Rainbow Warrior"
    <sleek@sbs.com.fr> wrote:

    >> They tested a couple at WOT for the equivalent of 300,000 miles? Nice
    >> trick,...but how?
    >>
    >> Jason

    >
    >Couple of besa Blocks & a house brick.
    >


    oval testing track at proving ground?

    ---
    sheik's auto service centre
    88 Wilsons Rd Doncaster 3108
    (03) 8855 8077, http://www.freewebs.com/sheik_yerbouti
    specialising in transmission service
    5% discount if you say you saw us on aus.cars

  17. #17
    Dan--- Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have

    "Rainbow Warrior" <sleek@sbs.com.fr> wrote in message
    news:kU78e.781$oa7.14422@nnrp1.ozemail.com.au...

    >
    > Yep, instead of pooring millions into research to get 5kw by fidly high
    > tech, they just bore/stroke her out a bit and make some cheap minor
    > improvements. But don't let us stop you paying an extra $5k for a vehicle
    > with a new high tech shiney wizz bang unproven motor that will only save

    you
    > $2k in fuel during the 2 years you own it.


    Vortec 4200 is over 2 years old.


    --
    Regards Dan



  18. #18
    Dan--- Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have


    "Jason James" <associate@dodo.comzapspam.au> wrote in message
    news:d3rt5g$cl8$1@domitilla.aioe.org...
    >
    > They tested a couple at WOT for the equivalent of 300,000 miles? Nice
    > trick,...but how?


    On an engine dynometer.

    --
    Regards Dan



  19. #19
    Dan--- Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have

    "Tsunami" <.> wrote in message news:426123ea@quokka.wn.com.au...
    >


    > >

    > When the 4A-GE Corolla motor produced 100kW out of 1.6L in the late

    80's????
    > I know we have tougher emission regs now but geeez.
    > 205kW from 4.2L is nothing to get a fat over... regardless of the (OK)
    > torque figure.


    Use the corolla engine for towing and there is your answer!

    >
    > 1100Hp from TRD's 2.3L Celica GT4 motor (stroked and forced induction yes

    I
    > know) in 1995... thats excitement.
    >
    > Over 600Hp per litre from my R/C race car 2 stroke on methanol / 30%
    > nitro.... thats excitement.


    Why are you bothering to compare a race engine to a normal engine?

    --
    Regards Dan



  20. #20
    Dan--- Guest

    Re: This is the big 6 that the commode should have


    "Richard Fay" <nospam@nospam.com> wrote in message
    news:4261276c$1$18130$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
    > Guess what the ford V8 engine is :)


    Add the Falcon inline 6 as well. :-p

    --
    Regards Dan



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