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  1. #1
    Ext User(Nemesis) Guest

    Toyota Estima

    The missus has decided that now we have a baby she wants to sell the Magna
    and buy a people mover. The Estima is in our price range, but I am not sure
    about turbo diesel motor with auto trans... any advice?
    Considering 1994 model for $12k with 100,000 on the clock.
    --
    Cheers
    Sully



  2. #2
    Ext User(David Z) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    Never sold here. I would highly recommend against buying a grey import.
    You have no idea about its history of previous owners in Japan (or wherever
    its come from). Why not just go with the Tarago??

    "Nemesis" <icur@thepolka.com> wrote in message
    news:42eb81f8$1@news.comindico.com.au...
    > The missus has decided that now we have a baby she wants to sell the Magna
    > and buy a people mover. The Estima is in our price range, but I am not
    > sure about turbo diesel motor with auto trans... any advice?
    > Considering 1994 model for $12k with 100,000 on the clock.
    > --
    > Cheers
    > Sully
    >




  3. #3
    Ext User(ShazWozza) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    Nemesis wrote:

    > The missus has decided that now we have a baby she wants to sell the Magna
    > and buy a people mover. The Estima is in our price range, but I am not
    > sure about turbo diesel motor with auto trans... any advice?
    > Considering 1994 model for $12k with 100,000 on the clock.


    A diesel powered vehicle is surely a good thing to transport a newborn baby
    in NOT!

    Unless the engine has a particle filter, you can be sure that your baby's
    lungs will have molecule sized carbon particles embedded in them. These
    particles are so small that they pass into the living tissue.

    Think about the poor people behind you who will have to put up with the
    filthy disgusting shit that your Estima will surely emit when its got a few
    k's on its injectors and the parts are too hard to come by.

    The Estima's have a narrower track than the Tarago too. This would make them
    less safe when pushed.



  4. #4
    Ext User(Patrick Young) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    David Z wrote:

    > Never sold here. I would highly recommend against buying a grey import.
    > You have no idea about its history of previous owners in Japan (or wherever
    > its come from). Why not just go with the Tarago??


    A friend has one of the first 5,000 4Runners of the 1990-1996 shape
    built for the Japan market. 2L-T engine, around 190,000km ATM.
    Complianced for AU in 2000 as an import.

    He swears by it, relies on it daily, and thinks it is the best
    vehicle he has ever owned. Recently bought a complete spare engine
    for $200 including turbo in the event it fecks up, which it won't.

    --

    --------------------------------------------
    4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre,
    BP 106 Timbuktu,
    Mali (West Africa)
    Tel: 292 91 52
    Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon


  5. #5
    Ext User(Patrick Young) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    ShazWozza wrote:

    > A diesel powered vehicle is surely a good thing to transport a newborn baby
    > in NOT!


    Your basis for the above shite?

    > Think about the poor people behind you who will have to put up with the
    > filthy disgusting shit that your Estima will surely emit when its got a few
    > k's on its injectors and the parts are too hard to come by.


    Yeah right. Whatever. You right in the retard bin with David Z?

    --

    --------------------------------------------
    4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre,
    BP 106 Timbuktu,
    Mali (West Africa)
    Tel: 292 91 52
    Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon


  6. #6
    Ext User(Dan---) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    "ShazWozza" <shaz_wozza@elementspring.com> wrote in message
    news:newscache$7z6gki$1al1$1@elise.onthenet.com.au ...

    > The Estima's have a narrower track than the Tarago too.


    No it hasn't.

    --
    Regards
    Dan




  7. #7
    Ext User(Dan---) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    "Patrick Young" <patrick@hilux.ace.unsw.EDU.AU> wrote in message
    news:UUQGe.67141$oJ.18724@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

    >
    > Yeah right. Whatever. You right in the retard bin with David Z?


    It seems to be in the gene pool
    Love this bit "The Estima's have a narrower track than the Tarago too" The
    Estima is a bloody Torago. :-)

    --
    Regards
    Dan



  8. #8
    Ext User(Patrick Young) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    Patrick Young wrote:

    > He swears by it, relies on it daily, and thinks it is the best
    > vehicle he has ever owned. Recently bought a complete spare engine
    > for $200 including turbo in the event it fecks up, which it won't.


    Oh, and his original purchase price: $7,000

    We did have to fix the motor mechanism on the transfer that
    engages 4x4 over a few beers one weekend which was piss
    easy.

    --

    --------------------------------------------
    4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre,
    BP 106 Timbuktu,
    Mali (West Africa)
    Tel: 292 91 52
    Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon


  9. #9
    Ext User(Patrick Young) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    Dan--- wrote:

    > "Patrick Young" <patrick@hilux.ace.unsw.EDU.AU> wrote in message
    > news:UUQGe.67141$oJ.18724@news-server.bigpond.net.au...


    >>Yeah right. Whatever. You right in the retard bin with David Z?


    > It seems to be in the gene pool


    Pretty much, I'd personally think it would be easy to for
    them folk to take a good look around before making the
    general decision "that's bad, because .... some shite"

    --

    --------------------------------------------
    4x4 Hilux Auto Service Centre,
    BP 106 Timbuktu,
    Mali (West Africa)
    Tel: 292 91 52
    Specialising in turbo diesel and R290 aircon


  10. #10
    Ext User(jackbadger) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    $12k should get you a 1994 Australian model Tarago GLi, albeit with more
    than 100kms and fewer bells & whistles. Look for one with dual A/C though.
    About a year ago I was in the same position and bought a 1994 GLX (IRS,
    dual climate control A/C, poxy alloys, airbag) with 250,000kms from an
    auction for $9600 + buyers fee of $100. It was quite a gamble though as it
    was pretty rough around the edges and had no service history. Has turned
    out to be perfect for us, but as mentioned there were more sound examples
    selling within your price range.
    As for the general idea, they're brilliant at doing what they're supposed
    to (carry people), are very comfortable on long trips and parts are freely
    available.
    BTW, well done for not getting an old Patrol/Landcruiser just for carting
    the kids about.


  11. #11
    Ext User(D Walford) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    Nemesis wrote:
    >
    > The missus has decided that now we have a baby she wants to sell the Magna
    > and buy a people mover. The Estima is in our price range, but I am not sure
    > about turbo diesel motor with auto trans... any advice?
    > Considering 1994 model for $12k with 100,000 on the clock.


    Turbo diesels work very well with auto's, usually the small lag that the
    torque convertor has before they engage allows the engine to get up
    enough rpm to get the turbo on boost.



    Daryl

  12. #12
    Ext User(D Walford) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    ShazWozza wrote:
    >
    > Nemesis wrote:
    >
    > > The missus has decided that now we have a baby she wants to sell the Magna
    > > and buy a people mover. The Estima is in our price range, but I am not
    > > sure about turbo diesel motor with auto trans... any advice?
    > > Considering 1994 model for $12k with 100,000 on the clock.

    >
    > A diesel powered vehicle is surely a good thing to transport a newborn baby
    > in NOT!
    >


    > Unless the engine has a particle filter, you can be sure that your baby's
    > lungs will have molecule sized carbon particles embedded in them. These
    > particles are so small that they pass into the living tissue.


    How is that going to affect the baby who is inside the car?
    For that to be a problem you would have to place the baby under the
    tailpipe with the engine running.
    >
    > Think about the poor people behind you who will have to put up with the
    > filthy disgusting shit that your Estima will surely emit when its got a few
    > k's on its injectors and the parts are too hard to come by.


    Its a myth usually put about by someone who might lose money that parts
    are hard to get for grey imports.
    At least you can smell deisel emmisions and know to avoid them, the
    emmisions put out by petrol engines are more dangerous because you don't
    notice them and they are as bad if not worse on your health.
    >
    > The Estima's have a narrower track than the Tarago too. This would make them
    > less safe when pushed.


    The one I saw on friday looked exactly like a locally delivered Tarago.




    Daryl

  13. #13
    Ext User(hippo) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    Dan wrote:

    >It seems to be in the gene pool
    >Love this bit "The Estima's have a narrower track than the Tarago too"

    The
    >Estima is a bloody Torago. :-)


    I thought both the track and overall width on the domestic model were
    about 10cm less than ours in Aus - however I could be wrong, as in lots of
    other things.

    The important thing that you all missed though is this - if you're
    *pushing* it, I presume the emissions would be restricted to methane
    emanating from human the assistance, so where's the problem? Hehe! Cheers


  14. #14
    Ext User(hippo) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    Nemesis wrote:

    >The missus has decided that now we have a baby she wants to sell the

    Magna
    >and buy a people mover. The Estima is in our price range, but I am not
    >sure
    >about turbo diesel motor with auto trans... any advice?
    >Considering 1994 model for $12k with 100,000 on the clock.
    >--
    >Cheers
    >Sully


    So how many passengers does that leave you with?
    Personally I'd probably prefer a Magna to a MPV for four or less total and
    Magna or Falcadore wagon with a third row of seats for 5 or 6 - currently
    driving 99 Outback, 05 Tarago, 91 Pajero, 81 Saab amongst others for work
    and private - transporting 3-5 children at various times. Sorry, but give
    me a wagon any day in most situations. Cheers


  15. #15
    Ext User(Dan---) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    "hippo" <johnh@nospam.shoal.net.au> wrote in message
    news:b12aadcc4ff0900b1a27992268069b06@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...

    > So how many passengers does that leave you with?
    > Personally I'd probably prefer a Magna to a MPV for four or less total and
    > Magna or Falcadore wagon with a third row of seats for 5 or 6 - currently


    Each time I see a station wagon with a 3rd row seat that faces the rear
    windscreen always brings a shudder through my spine. Flimsy seats and the
    nearness of the glass hate to be rear ended with kids in them seats.

    --
    Regards
    Dan



  16. #16
    Ext User(kevcat) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima



    ShazWozza wrote:




    > The Estima's have a narrower track than the Tarago too. This would make them
    > less safe when pushed.



    Oh and they have thinner metal than the Tarago too

    **** off idiot
    they are a tarago with a turbo diesel

    they ARE THE SAME VEHICLE


    Kev

  17. #17
    Ext User(kevcat) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima



    jackbadger wrote:
    >
    > $12k should get you a 1994 Australian model Tarago GLi, albeit with more
    > than 100kms and fewer bells & whistles. Look for one with dual A/C though.
    > About a year ago I was in the same position and bought a 1994 GLX (IRS,
    > dual climate control A/C, poxy alloys, airbag) with 250,000kms from an
    > auction for $9600 + buyers fee of $100. It was quite a gamble though as it
    > was pretty rough around the edges and had no service history. Has turned
    > out to be perfect for us, but as mentioned there were more sound examples
    > selling within your price range.


    Yeah but the Estima will have all the top luxury items and then some
    that we didm't get
    why settle for an inferior local verson?

    and the turbo diesel has much better fuel economy than the petrol



    > As for the general idea, they're brilliant at doing what they're supposed
    > to (carry people), are very comfortable on long trips and parts are freely
    > available.
    > BTW, well done for not getting an old Patrol/Landcruiser just for carting
    > the kids about.



    Now look here
    I don't use my landcruiser to cart the kids about
    thats the wifes job in her falcon(amazing how I buy and pay for it and
    it's HERS)

    I use it to drive myself, and no one else to work in :)

    Kev

  18. #18
    Ext User(kevcat) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima



    hippo wrote:
    >
    > Nemesis wrote:
    >
    > >The missus has decided that now we have a baby she wants to sell the

    > Magna
    > >and buy a people mover. The Estima is in our price range, but I am not
    > >sure
    > >about turbo diesel motor with auto trans... any advice?
    > >Considering 1994 model for $12k with 100,000 on the clock.
    > >--
    > >Cheers
    > >Sully

    >
    > So how many passengers does that leave you with?
    > Personally I'd probably prefer a Magna to a MPV for four or less total and
    > Magna or Falcadore wagon with a third row of seats for 5 or 6 - currently
    > driving 99 Outback, 05 Tarago, 91 Pajero, 81 Saab amongst others for work
    > and private - transporting 3-5 children at various times. Sorry, but give
    > me a wagon any day in most situations. Cheers



    if you have back problems putting babies into people movers is much
    better and much less painful

    I know I had a lowered XE falcon and a 4Runner, when ever I could I
    would use the 4Runner to take kids anywhere

    Kev

  19. #19
    Ext User(Ben Thomas) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    Nemesis wrote:
    > The missus has decided that now we have a baby she wants to sell the Magna
    > and buy a people mover. The Estima is in our price range, but I am not sure
    > about turbo diesel motor with auto trans... any advice?
    > Considering 1994 model for $12k with 100,000 on the clock.


    WTF?!!

    I've got two kids, and Astras and Golfs are more than big enough for double pram
    and the rest of the baby shit plus shopping - unless you want to go on a
    driving holiday.

    --
    Ben Thomas - Software Engineer - Melbourne, Australia
    2001 manual 2.2l Holden Astra SRi - a real pleasure to drive;
    Michelin Preceda - $250 each but last a lot longer than $200 tyres;
    Alpine Type S speakers and amp, JVC MP3 CD playing head-unit.

    Opinions, conclusions, and other information in this message that do not
    relate to the official business of my employer shall be understood as neither
    given nor endorsed by it.

  20. #20
    Ext User(hippo) Guest

    Re: Toyota Estima

    Dan wrote:

    >Each time I see a station wagon with a 3rd row seat that faces the rear
    >windscreen always brings a shudder through my spine. Flimsy seats and

    the
    >nearness of the glass hate to be rear ended with kids in them seats.


    While a current Tarago which doesn't even qualify to have child seat
    anchorages in the 3rd row of seats or a 4WD whose spare tyre forms the
    rear crush zone before squashing your offspring is a good idea? Stuff it -
    buy a Caravelle V6. (You know you want to!) Cheers


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