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ok i know its illigal to use the mobile phone
while driving ,but are u alowed to use these hands
free things that are like headphones,and u hook up to
your phone and use them?
milo
ok i know its illigal to use the mobile phone
while driving ,but are u alowed to use these hands
free things that are like headphones,and u hook up to
your phone and use them?
milo
> ok i know its illigal to use the mobile phone
> while driving ,but are u alowed to use these hands
> free things that are like headphones,and u hook up to
> your phone and use them?
Unfortunately, yes.
-mark
"mark jb" <nukeleer at internode dot on dot net> wrote in message
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>> ok i know its illigal to use the mobile phone
>> while driving ,but are u alowed to use these hands
>> free things that are like headphones,and u hook up to
>> your phone and use them?
>
> Unfortunately, yes.
What I heard is, they're illegal but not policed. The rationale was, it's
still 'being in control of a motor vehicle while using a mobile phone'.
mark jb wrote:
>>ok i know its illigal to use the mobile phone
>>while driving ,but are u alowed to use these hands
>>free things that are like headphones,and u hook up to
>>your phone and use them?
>
>
> Unfortunately, yes.
Hands free is legal and I can't see any reason why they shouldn't be.
If a driver can't talk and drive at the same time they are not capable
of driving, phone or no phone.
Daryl
"milo" <mrmiloman2006@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> ok i know its illigal to use the mobile phone
> while driving ,but are u alowed to use these hands
> free things that are like headphones,and u hook up to
> your phone and use them?
>
> milo
>.
We had this argument at work and the legal outcome was that they are illegal
to answer, dial or text on. But if a call originates while your pulled over
that was okay.
> Hands free is legal and I can't see any reason why they shouldn't be.
> If a driver can't talk and drive at the same time they are not capable of
> driving, phone or no phone.
The only people I see on phones are those who can't drive for shit.
Perhaps it's a king of road thing - if i want to be on my phone i will, i
drive an UAV, etc.
-mark
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:28:57 +1000, D Walford wrote:
> mark jb wrote:
>>>ok i know its illigal to use the mobile phone
>>>while driving ,but are u alowed to use these hands
>>>free things that are like headphones,and u hook up to
>>>your phone and use them?
>>
>>
>> Unfortunately, yes.
>
>
> Hands free is legal and I can't see any reason why they shouldn't be.
> If a driver can't talk and drive at the same time they are not capable
> of driving, phone or no phone.
>
>
>
> Daryl
Phones are duplex comms.
Conversations with passengers are by and large not the same.
Nor are PTT conversations on two-way radio, used for years by police
taxis etc etc.
Duplex conversations are extremely taxing to the intellect and ability
of anyone trying to drive a vehicle of any description at the same
time.
Worth a try...
Simple test - get out there and yap on a mobile for a few Kms in
suburban heavy traffic, and then try and recall everything that
happened on the road during that period.
Not a chance.
Do the same routing without the mobile, and there'll be a difference
in recall in favour of the no-phone drive.
--
Toby.
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Toby Ponsenby wrote:
> Phones are duplex comms.
> Conversations with passengers are by and large not the same.
> Nor are PTT conversations on two-way radio, used for years by police
> taxis etc etc.
> Duplex conversations are extremely taxing to the intellect and ability
> of anyone trying to drive a vehicle of any description at the same
> time.
>
> Worth a try...
> Simple test - get out there and yap on a mobile for a few Kms in
> suburban heavy traffic, and then try and recall everything that
> happened on the road during that period.
> Not a chance.
> Do the same routing without the mobile, and there'll be a difference
> in recall in favour of the no-phone drive.
Well done Toby, but don't hold your breath waiting for Daz to agree with
you. :-) You know our Daz, always right, his copper friend (you know the
one who can drive safely as fast as he likes) probably told him so. :-P
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Take Care.
Feral
mark jb wrote:
>>Hands free is legal and I can't see any reason why they shouldn't be.
>>If a driver can't talk and drive at the same time they are not capable of
>>driving, phone or no phone.
>
>
> The only people I see on phones are those who can't drive for shit.
Well thats the problem isn't it, adding the 2 problems together won't
help but banning handsfree phones won't solve the first problem.
Daryl
D Walford wrote:
> mark jb wrote:
>
>>> Hands free is legal and I can't see any reason why they shouldn't be.
>>> If a driver can't talk and drive at the same time they are not
>>> capable of driving, phone or no phone.
>>
>>
>>
>> The only people I see on phones are those who can't drive for shit.
>
>
> Well thats the problem isn't it, adding the 2 problems together won't
> help but banning handsfree phones won't solve the first problem.
Do you use a phone whilst driving Daz? :-)
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Take Care.
Feral
Toby Ponsenby wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:28:57 +1000, D Walford wrote:
>
>
>>mark jb wrote:
>>
>>>>ok i know its illigal to use the mobile phone
>>>>while driving ,but are u alowed to use these hands
>>>>free things that are like headphones,and u hook up to
>>>>your phone and use them?
>>>
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, yes.
>>
>>
>>Hands free is legal and I can't see any reason why they shouldn't be.
>>If a driver can't talk and drive at the same time they are not capable
>>of driving, phone or no phone.
>>
>>
>>
>>Daryl
>
>
> Phones are duplex comms.
> Conversations with passengers are by and large not the same.
> Nor are PTT conversations on two-way radio, used for years by police
> taxis etc etc.
> Duplex conversations are extremely taxing to the intellect and ability
> of anyone trying to drive a vehicle of any description at the same
> time.
>
Are you suggesting I have superior intellect?
> Worth a try...
> Simple test - get out there and yap on a mobile for a few Kms in
> suburban heavy traffic, and then try and recall everything that
> happened on the road during that period.
> Not a chance.
> Do the same routing without the mobile, and there'll be a difference
> in recall in favour of the no-phone drive.
I don't like using the phone whilst driving (built in hands free in
truck which is 100% legal) but I also don't find it reduces my
concentration level to the point where it may be dangerous.
I don't have any deep and meanful conversations with anyone on the
mobile though, I just take a message and call people back.
Daryl
D Walford wrote:
> Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>
>> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:28:57 +1000, D Walford wrote:
>>>
>>> Hands free is legal and I can't see any reason why they shouldn't be.
>>> If a driver can't talk and drive at the same time they are not
>>> capable of driving, phone or no phone.
>>
>>
>> Phones are duplex comms.
>> Conversations with passengers are by and large not the same.
>> Nor are PTT conversations on two-way radio, used for years by police
>> taxis etc etc.
>> Duplex conversations are extremely taxing to the intellect and ability
>> of anyone trying to drive a vehicle of any description at the same
>> time.
>>
> Are you suggesting I have superior intellect?
>
>> Worth a try...
>> Simple test - get out there and yap on a mobile for a few Kms in
>> suburban heavy traffic, and then try and recall everything that
>> happened on the road during that period.
>> Not a chance.
>> Do the same routing without the mobile, and there'll be a difference
>> in recall in favour of the no-phone drive.
>
>
> I don't like using the phone whilst driving (built in hands free in
> truck which is 100% legal) but I also don't find it reduces my
> concentration level to the point where it may be dangerous.
Slipping, sliding, hedging.....
> I don't have any deep and meanful conversations with anyone on the
> mobile though, I just take a message and call people back.
Slipping, sliding, hedging....
Whew, just scraped through.
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Take Care.
Feral
feral wrote:
> D Walford wrote:
>
>> mark jb wrote:
>>
>>>> Hands free is legal and I can't see any reason why they shouldn't be.
>>>> If a driver can't talk and drive at the same time they are not
>>>> capable of driving, phone or no phone.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The only people I see on phones are those who can't drive for shit.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well thats the problem isn't it, adding the 2 problems together won't
>> help but banning handsfree phones won't solve the first problem.
>
>
> Do you use a phone whilst driving Daz? :-)
Occasionally.
Do you know how to use a mobile phone, most very old people (about you
age) are shit scared of them:-)
Daryl
D Walford wrote:
> feral wrote:
>
>> D Walford wrote:
>>
>>> mark jb wrote:
>>>
>>>> The only people I see on phones are those who can't drive for shit.
>>>
>>>
>>> Well thats the problem isn't it, adding the 2 problems together won't
>>> help but banning handsfree phones won't solve the first problem.
>>
>>
>> Do you use a phone whilst driving Daz? :-)
>
>
> Occasionally.
Then read mark jb's reply again. :-)
> Do you know how to use a mobile phone, most very old people (about you
> age) are shit scared of them:-)
Installed them in cars, ships and planes thanks.
I have three ATM, all working.
Still being childish. Nice try.
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Take Care.
Feral
"mark jb" <nukeleer at internode dot on dot net> wrote in message
news:4369d0c9
> The only people I see on phones are those who can't drive for shit.
> Perhaps it's a king of road thing - if i want to be on my phone i will, i
> drive an UAV, etc.
Unmanned Aerial Vehicle? Well yeah, I'd like to drive one of them too, but
not on a public road :)
> Unmanned Aerial Vehicle? Well yeah, I'd like to drive one of them too, but
> not on a public road :)
Urban Assault Vehicle :P
-mark
Yeah, the only problem is when he holds the piece of paper against the rim
of the steering wheel with one hand and writes the phone no down on it with
the other...
Allan A
"feral" <plonked@home.ru> wrote in message
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>D Walford wrote:
>
>> Toby Ponsenby wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:28:57 +1000, D Walford wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hands free is legal and I can't see any reason why they shouldn't be.
>>>> If a driver can't talk and drive at the same time they are not capable
>>>> of driving, phone or no phone.
>>>
>>>
>>> Phones are duplex comms.
>>> Conversations with passengers are by and large not the same.
>>> Nor are PTT conversations on two-way radio, used for years by police
>>> taxis etc etc.
>>> Duplex conversations are extremely taxing to the intellect and ability
>>> of anyone trying to drive a vehicle of any description at the same
>>> time.
>>>
>> Are you suggesting I have superior intellect?
>>
>>> Worth a try...
>>> Simple test - get out there and yap on a mobile for a few Kms in
>>> suburban heavy traffic, and then try and recall everything that
>>> happened on the road during that period.
>>> Not a chance.
>>> Do the same routing without the mobile, and there'll be a difference
>>> in recall in favour of the no-phone drive.
>>
>>
>> I don't like using the phone whilst driving (built in hands free in truck
>> which is 100% legal) but I also don't find it reduces my concentration
>> level to the point where it may be dangerous.
>
> Slipping, sliding, hedging.....
>
>> I don't have any deep and meanful conversations with anyone on the mobile
>> though, I just take a message and call people back.
>
> Slipping, sliding, hedging....
>
> Whew, just scraped through.
>
> --
> Take Care.
> Feral
"mark jb" <nukeleer at internode dot on dot net> wrote in message
news:4369f79e$1@duster.adelaide.on.net...
>> Unmanned Aerial Vehicle? Well yeah, I'd like to drive one of them too,
>> but not on a public road :)
>
> Urban Assault Vehicle :P
Underage Arsehole's VK :)
Allan A wrote:
> Yeah, the only problem is when he holds the piece of paper against the rim
> of the steering wheel with one hand and writes the phone no down on it with
> the other...
Hey, what's this all about then.
I'm always wrong, haven't you heard.
What's your game, when's the king-hit coming?
:-P
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Take Care.
Feral
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005 19:12:03 +1000, Toby Ponsenby <toby@privacy.net>
wrote:
>Phones are duplex comms.
>Conversations with passengers are by and large not the same.
erm, I don't speak in half duplex to people in the car Tobes :)
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