Worlds Fastest Rd.Car?...0 - 300 km/h 10s.. NoTurbo rubbish just BIG BLOCK MUSCLE

[Ext User(mf1@project1221.com中�人民共和国)]

I believe that is faster than a F1, this is EC Road Reg. Legal......

Here is the specs.:

Engine

The world’s most powerful car is powered by a naturally aspirated V8
engine with the highest power output and torque of all road-legal cars.

The world-unique precision with which this masterpiece is manufactured
guarantees its unmatchable performance and at the same time maximum
reliability.
All parts used for the engine are machined with highest precision to
Formula 1 standards.
As follows the setup of the engine

Engine displacement: 780 cui (12.9 L)
Compression ratio: 11.5 : 1
Cylinders: V / 8

Including:

especially machined distortion free high-precision cylinder block
individually machined high-precision crankshaft each crankshaft is
fine-balanced using master weights (counter
weights simulating the weights of the pistons and connecting rods which
are installed later). A more exact balancing of the crankshaft is not
possible!!!
lowest crankshaft bearing tolerance Crankshaft pins are smoothed to an
accuracy of 5 thousandths of a millimetrewhich allows for extremely
high revolution rates!!!
super high-performance Weineck pistons
endless piston rings (to prevent the combustion energy from bypassing
the piston)
super high-performance Weineck connecting rods
individually machined high-performance cylinder heads
All cylinder heads are prepared with a 16-knife milling head to ensure
the same surface quality throughout the milling process
individually machined high-performance valve seats. All valve seats are
milled with an accuracy of up to the hundredth part of a millimetre and
all three valve seat angles are milled in a single operation
individually engineered and machined high-performance lightweight
titanium valves
individually handmade, super highperformance exhaust manifolds
(headers)
super high-performance exhaust system
super high-performance engine oil cooling system
super high-performance gearbox oil cooling system
super high-performance rear differential oil cooling system
super high-performance ignition system (fully digital) with rev.
limiter
Max. power: 809 kW / 1,100 hp at 7,000 rpm.
Max. torque: 1,760 Nm at 5,600 rpm.
Fuel quality: Super plus unleaded 98 ROZ
Performances
0-200 km/h 4,9 s.
0-300 km/h 10 s.
Weight to power ratio: 0,9 Kg / hp

Gearbox / Drivetrain
Each piece of THE ULTIMATE is equipped with a 4-speed extra
high-performance gearbox to ensure that each owner will be able to (if
he dares to do so!) use the car’s power fully at any time.
The gearbox is designed to cope with a maximum torque of more than
2,000 Nm!
The Driveshafts are individually engineered and machined for the use in
THE ULTIMATE which can last more than 2,000 Newtonmeters of torque to
ensure that each owner will be able to enjoy the full performance of
his car at any time.
THE ULTIMATE delivers its power by rear wheel drive.
Its rear axle is equipped with a 75% limited slip differential.

Very nice, now put a name to it....

[Ext User(a9x5l)]

On Wed, 22 Feb 2006 13:04:34 -0800, mf1@project1221.comä¸*å�Žäººæ°‘共和国<המוסד
למודיעין ולתפקידי� מיוחדי�>GO:PT-141 wrote:

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>Very nice, now put a name to it....

2005 Weineck Cobra 780 ci Limited Edition ?

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mf1@project1221.comä¸*å�Žäººæ°‘共和国<המוסד למודיעין ולתפקידי×�
מיוחדי�>GO:PT-141 wrote:
> I believe that is faster than a F1, this is EC Road Reg. Legal......
>
> Here is the specs.:
>
> Engine
>
> The world’s most powerful car is powered by a naturally aspirated V8
> engine with the highest power output and torque of all road-legal cars.
>
> <snip>
>
> Very nice, now put a name to it....
>

Mitsubishi 380?

[Ext User(Fraser Johnston)]

"mf1@project1221.com???????<????? ???????? ????????? ???????>GO:PT-141"
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news:1140642274.758946.253160@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
I believe that is faster than a F1, this is EC Road Reg. Legal......

Here is the specs.:

Engine

The world's most powerful car is powered by a naturally aspirated V8
engine with the highest power output and torque of all road-legal cars.

The world-unique precision with which this masterpiece is manufactured
guarantees its unmatchable performance and at the same time maximum
reliability.
All parts used for the engine are machined with highest precision to
Formula 1 standards.
As follows the setup of the engine

Engine displacement: 780 cui (12.9 L)
Compression ratio: 11.5 : 1
Cylinders: V / 8

Including:

especially machined distortion free high-precision cylinder block
individually machined high-precision crankshaft each crankshaft is
fine-balanced using master weights (counter
weights simulating the weights of the pistons and connecting rods which
are installed later). A more exact balancing of the crankshaft is not
possible!!!
lowest crankshaft bearing tolerance Crankshaft pins are smoothed to an
accuracy of 5 thousandths of a millimetrewhich allows for extremely
high revolution rates!!!
super high-performance Weineck pistons
endless piston rings (to prevent the combustion energy from bypassing
the piston)
super high-performance Weineck connecting rods
individually machined high-performance cylinder heads
All cylinder heads are prepared with a 16-knife milling head to ensure
the same surface quality throughout the milling process
individually machined high-performance valve seats. All valve seats are
milled with an accuracy of up to the hundredth part of a millimetre and
all three valve seat angles are milled in a single operation
individually engineered and machined high-performance lightweight
titanium valves
individually handmade, super highperformance exhaust manifolds
(headers)
super high-performance exhaust system
super high-performance engine oil cooling system
super high-performance gearbox oil cooling system
super high-performance rear differential oil cooling system
super high-performance ignition system (fully digital) with rev.
limiter
Max. power: 809 kW / 1,100 hp at 7,000 rpm.
Max. torque: 1,760 Nm at 5,600 rpm.
Fuel quality: Super plus unleaded 98 ROZ
Performances
0-200 km/h 4,9 s.
0-300 km/h 10 s.
Weight to power ratio: 0,9 Kg / hp

Gearbox / Drivetrain
Each piece of THE ULTIMATE is equipped with a 4-speed extra
high-performance gearbox to ensure that each owner will be able to (if
he dares to do so!) use the car's power fully at any time.
The gearbox is designed to cope with a maximum torque of more than
2,000 Nm!
The Driveshafts are individually engineered and machined for the use in
THE ULTIMATE which can last more than 2,000 Newtonmeters of torque to
ensure that each owner will be able to enjoy the full performance of
his car at any time.
THE ULTIMATE delivers its power by rear wheel drive.
Its rear axle is equipped with a 75% limited slip differential.

Very nice, now put a name to it....

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++
Pipe dream.

Fraser

[Ext User(athol)]

Fraser Johnston <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote:

> The world-unique precision with which this masterpiece is manufactured
> guarantees its unmatchable performance and at the same time maximum
> reliability.

Okay...

> All parts used for the engine are machined with highest precision to
> Formula 1 standards.

So it's fecked in about 2.5 hours of driving? :-)

> As follows the setup of the engine

> Engine displacement: 780 cui (12.9 L)
> Compression ratio: 11.5 : 1
> Cylinders: V / 8

> Including:

> especially machined distortion free high-precision cylinder block

All blocks are machined. Techniques like using torque plates on the deck to
distort the block in the same way as the heads will when torqued down is
normal stuff for serious engine builders.

> individually machined high-precision crankshaft each crankshaft is
> fine-balanced using master weights (counter
> weights simulating the weights of the pistons and connecting rods which
> are installed later).

That's what's done for all V8 cranks except flat plane cranks, which are
very rare due to vibration problems. It's not _possible_ to balance a V8
crank without doing this, FFS!

> A more exact balancing of the crankshaft is not possible!!!

What is the tolerance of the mass of the counterweights compared to the
mass of the reciprocating assemblies? Do they allow for the carbon
build up on the pistons, and if so, how much? :-)

> lowest crankshaft bearing tolerance Crankshaft pins are smoothed to an
> accuracy of 5 thousandths of a millimetrewhich allows for extremely
> high revolution rates!!!

Extremely tight tolerances doesn't translate to high rev capability. An
engine this big is not likely to rev well no matter how fine the bearing
tolerances.

> super high-performance Weineck pistons

WTF does "super high-performance" mean? I think that we can simply snip
that phrase...

What, no piston coatings?

> endless piston rings (to prevent the combustion energy from bypassing
> the piston)

Truly endless? That'd be interesting. I'd go for gapless instead. At
least they actually work for the life of the engine. :-)

> super high-performance Weineck connecting rods

Remember what I said about "super high-performance". :-)

> individually machined high-performance cylinder heads

They think that others machine their heads any other way?

What, no combustion chamber coatings?

> All cylinder heads are prepared with a 16-knife milling head to ensure
> the same surface quality throughout the milling process

Woo Hoo. There are 16 tips in the cutter. Meaningless drivel.

> individually machined high-performance valve seats. All valve seats are
> milled with an accuracy of up to the hundredth part of a millimetre and
> all three valve seat angles are milled in a single operation

And this is unusual how?!?

> individually engineered and machined high-performance lightweight
> titanium valves

What, no valve head coatings?

> individually handmade, super highperformance exhaust manifolds
> (headers)

Again with this "individually" bit. Do they think that handmade
extractors would otherwise be simultaneously assembled in batches?!?

One guy is going to tack one pipe on the first set of extractors, then
tack the next set, (then another and another and another), then come
back and do the 2nd part on the 1st set... FFS, he'd assemble one set,
then go onto the next set.

> super high-performance exhaust system
> super high-performance engine oil cooling system
> super high-performance gearbox oil cooling system
> super high-performance rear differential oil cooling system
> super high-performance ignition system (fully digital) with rev.
> limiter

Delete the "super high-performance" from all of those and see what it
says. :-)

> Max. power: 809 kW / 1,100 hp at 7,000 rpm.
> Max. torque: 1,760 Nm at 5,600 rpm.
> Fuel quality: Super plus unleaded 98 ROZ

ROZ? Is this somehow related to RON?

> Performances
> 0-200 km/h 4,9 s.
> 0-300 km/h 10 s.
> Weight to power ratio: 0,9 Kg / hp

What, no economy or consumption figures and no mention of the size of
the tank so that you can plan the fuel stops. :-)

> Gearbox / Drivetrain
> Each piece of THE ULTIMATE is equipped with a 4-speed extra
> high-performance gearbox to ensure that each owner will be able to (if
> he dares to do so!) use the car's power fully at any time.
> The gearbox is designed to cope with a maximum torque of more than
> 2,000 Nm!

All of that and it's only a 4-speed? Is it a 4L80E or something?

> The Driveshafts are individually engineered and machined for the use in
> THE ULTIMATE which can last more than 2,000 Newtonmeters of torque to
> ensure that each owner will be able to enjoy the full performance of
> his car at any time.

LOL. Fantasy.

> THE ULTIMATE delivers its power by rear wheel drive.
> Its rear axle is equipped with a 75% limited slip differential.

A clutch based LSD? What a POS. Should have been a torsen.

> Very nice, now put a name to it....

OOTWR - out of touch with reality.

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[Ext User(John McKenzie)]

I'm just bored, nobody take it too seriuosly please.

athol wrote:
>
> Fraser Johnston <fraser@jcis.com.au> wrote:
>
> > The world-unique precision with which this masterpiece is manufactured
> > guarantees its unmatchable performance and at the same time maximum
> > reliability.
>
> Okay...
>
> > All parts used for the engine are machined with highest precision to
> > Formula 1 standards.
>
> So it's fecked in about 2.5 hours of driving?

1.5 if Montoya is the pilot. (he is my second favourite f1 driver - I
think he's like the 'gone postal' driver - all of a sudden he pulls off
insane qualifying or passing moves, but can't usually put it together
for a whole race.

Raikonnen is my fave atm - if he took a sniper rifle and wiped out the
entire McLaren engineering team, I think it'd be justifiable homicide. 2
championships they've cost him so far imho. (I think Alonso is a verey
technically brilliant driver, but he probably doesn't have quite the
**** in him as Raikonnen, the F1s pitbull. Given the reliability of a
McLaren, Alonso would have been in therapy by now)


> All blocks are machined. Techniques like using torque plates on the deck to
> distort the block in the same way as the heads will when torqued down is
> normal stuff for serious engine builders.

And has been for decades one might add (though they were a little spoilt
in the early days with how meaty many factory engines were, albeit
sometimes with shit flowing heads)

> What is the tolerance of the mass of the counterweights compared to the
> mass of the reciprocating assemblies? Do they allow for the carbon
> build up on the pistons, and if so, how much? :-)

Along similar lines, I'd be curious to know the amount of overbalance
they went for. Kinda strange to start a spiel on high tech, attention to
detail this and that, and leave out any real details (not that this is
make or break, but I'd be curious to know where they went with it)

> Extremely tight tolerances doesn't translate to high rev capability. An
> engine this big is not likely to rev well no matter how fine the bearing
> tolerances.

I disagree slightly there - I think the 'old' slightly larger clearance
for high rpm to cut friction also served to make up for ten thousandths
of an inch high spots (up to 2-3 tenths) in their machining. Just a
hunch mind you.


> > super high-performance Weineck pistons
>
> WTF does "super high-performance" mean? I think that we can simply snip
> that phrase...

It's like high performance but it can jump small buildings in a single
bound. Something bout truth justice and the merkin way too if I recall.

> What, no piston coatings?

carbon, sooner or later :)

>
> > endless piston rings (to prevent the combustion energy from bypassing
> > the piston)
>
> Truly endless? That'd be interesting. I'd go for gapless instead. At
> least they actually work for the life of the engine. :-)

Have you got any long term data on them? I've seen mixed results in race
oriented engines (more merit in drag it would seem, and only in big bore
engines, doesn't seem to work as well in smaller ones, and I don't
specifically know why they don't seem to be worth any power over more
conventional ones.


> > super high-performance Weineck connecting rods

Because as we all no (sic) weineck standard high performance is for
wussies.

>
> > individually machined high-performance cylinder heads
>
> They think that others machine their heads any other way?
>
> What, no combustion chamber coatings?

carbon, oh and pieces of piston crown if the timing, fuelling or
revlimiter isn't ideal.

>
> > All cylinder heads are prepared with a 16-knife milling head to ensure
> > the same surface quality throughout the milling process
>
> Woo Hoo. There are 16 tips in the cutter. Meaningless drivel.

There's a rabbi joke to be had there, I'm sure of it.



> > individually machined high-performance valve seats. All valve seats are
> > milled with an accuracy of up to the hundredth part of a millimetre and
> > all three valve seat angles are milled in a single operation
>
> And this is unusual how?!?

it's about 1/3 less fine a tolerance as many racing engine builders go
to (on the basis it's roughly equal to 3-4 ten thousandths - I know of
head specialists going to 1 ten thousandth for their highest spec heads
(for ultra competitive bullshit classes)

>
> > individually engineered and machined high-performance lightweight
> > titanium valves
>
> What, no valve head coatings?

moly paste (don't lauge, I've seen a head come from a reconditioner with
it all over the stem and in the guide. I asked him what he thought that
would be like in terms of when it ended up on the bore walls during ring
bed in. I'm not welcome (not that I'd go there voluntarily anyway) any
more.

>
> > individually handmade, super highperformance exhaust manifolds
> > (headers)
>
> Again with this "individually" bit. Do they think that handmade
> extractors would otherwise be simultaneously assembled in batches?!?

What it really means is they are made in a sweatshop by child labour in
the phillipines.


>
> > Max. power: 809 kW / 1,100 hp at 7,000 rpm.
> > Max. torque: 1,760 Nm at 5,600 rpm.
> > Fuel quality: Super plus unleaded 98 ROZ
>
> ROZ? Is this somehow related to RON?
>
> > Performances
> > 0-200 km/h 4,9 s.
> > 0-300 km/h 10 s.
> > Weight to power ratio: 0,9 Kg / hp
>
> What, no economy or consumption figures and no mention of the size of
> the tank so that you can plan the fuel stops. :-)
>
> > Gearbox / Drivetrain
> > Each piece of THE ULTIMATE is equipped with a 4-speed extra
> > high-performance gearbox to ensure that each owner will be able to (if
> > he dares to do so!) use the car's power fully at any time.
> > The gearbox is designed to cope with a maximum torque of more than
> > 2,000 Nm!
>
> All of that and it's only a 4-speed? Is it a 4L80E or something?

aussie m22 tee hee.

>
> > The Driveshafts are individually engineered and machined for the use in
> > THE ULTIMATE which can last more than 2,000 Newtonmeters of torque to
> > ensure that each owner will be able to enjoy the full performance of
> > his car at any time.
>
> LOL. Fantasy.
>
> > THE ULTIMATE delivers its power by rear wheel drive.
> > Its rear axle is equipped with a 75% limited slip differential.
>
> A clutch based LSD? What a POS. Should have been a torsen.

one might argue that the difference would be one would start to work
less, and require new friction plates/restacking, the other tends to
work perfectly till it breaks or wears to the point it breaks.

>
> > Very nice, now put a name to it....
>
> OOTWR - out of touch with reality.

it's no p76 I'll grant you.

having been a smartass up to this point - I _would_ like to hear the
engine at wot and the car accelerating through the gears.


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