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    Ext User(Chock) Guest

    Lots of trouble at Nein ...

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19609630-2,00.html

    http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19609492-2,00.html

    http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...e#contentSwap1


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  2. #2
    Ext User(lynx) Guest

    Re: Lots of trouble at Nein ...

    Chock wrote:

    >http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19609630-2,00.html
    >
    >http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19609492-2,00.html
    >
    >http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...e#contentSwap1
    >
    >
    >
    >


    Channel nine is going down the gurgler. And Rowe should do the
    honourable thing and leave!

    --

    rgds,

    Pete
    ~~~~~
    'If at first you DO succeed, try not to look astonished!'



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    Ext User(Duggy) Guest

    Re: Lots of trouble at Nein ...

    Chock wrote:
    > http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19609630-2,00.html
    > http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19609492-2,00.html
    > http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...e#contentSwap1


    So they brought Eddie in as the fallguy knowing that he couldn't stop
    himself from trying to get his fact on TV.

    And they are doing the only business trick of trying to run everything
    like a business.

    ===
    = DUG.
    ===


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    Ext User(Silent Bob) Guest

    Re: Lots of trouble at Nein ...


  5. #5
    Ext User(^Temuchin^) Guest

    Re: Lots of trouble at Nein ...

    terminator
    Maybe the producers need to get the ass from 9 instead of JR. They
    should be asking the viewers why they watch their opposition instead of
    9. Its not like Mel & Kochy are spunks its what the producers are doing
    to make the show entertaining.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:30am
    anti jess
    please get rid of Jessica. It is a shame that she is not being treated
    well by 9, but she is not performing well and needs to be given the
    boot. her laugh, her constant lack of knowledge on EVERYTHING, her
    flirting with karl aaarrrrhhhh, she needs to get out of there. put in
    Sharyn or Georgia Gardner. No more Jess. she was good behind the desk at
    10, but not at 9 - and get rid of that bloody desk anyway, its a morning
    programme, not a news hour. as bad as she is, i might be forced to watch
    the halfwits on sunrise, what a pack of monkeys - dont have two brain
    cells between them. pack your bags Jess.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:29am
    Khalid
    Instead of Jess, can someone recruit Sandra Sully from 10. Seeing her in
    the morning will definitely brighten my day

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:29am
    MadMan
    The problem isn’t Jessica Rowe. The Today show used to blitz Sunrise
    until they started to try to copy. First they tried to make Steve
    Liebman and Tracy Grimshaw start cracking jokes which just didn’t work,
    then Sunrise had an annoying weatherman so Today had to get the most
    annoying person on TV (Steve Jacobs) to do their weather, plus Today has
    Richard Wilkins who has the charm of a cardboard box. If Today went back
    to the classy show that they had 3-4 years ago and stopped trying to
    copy Sunrise they would start recovering.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:29am
    maxy b
    You must wonder whether TV executives live in the real world and
    understand what people want. Did management really expect Jessica Rowe
    to top the ratings above Sunrise and be the star attraction? My wife is
    a good barometer to measure public opinion by. She is a mother and
    watches Sunrise because she identifies with the people there. They look
    and act like normal parents, unlike the glitz, glamour and Ken and
    Barbie act of the channel 9 morning team.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:29am
    Golu
    Why can’t she grow some hair and change her look once in a while? From
    the time I was old enough to know what “change” meant, she has looked
    the same. Good bye Jessica.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:29am
    TAQ
    I think it is horribly unfair on Jessica. We stopped watching when Steve
    left - Carl was just too painful to watch. Seems that ratings started
    falling as soon as Steve left, then Tracey was moved (like that would
    help!) then Jessica was put in to perform some sort of miracle.

    I really think the problem that Nine has is that it started to try to
    imitate the Sunrise “friendly” format. Rather than try to do that, Nine
    (in my opinion) should have moved to a more serious, more news oriented
    format - again not a decision that had anything to do with Jessica.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:26am
    basil
    Its simply a case of right presenter on the wrong program,
    she is over qualified to be on such a light hearted program, should be
    the face of ACA or 60 minutes with her hubby,
    if only to put her back in a black suit as opposed to the pastel and
    neon wardrobe supplied to give the program some colour.
    Surely if the today program stopped trying to replicate the sillyness of
    Sunrise and build a team that works well together, the ratings would shift.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:24am
    Former Watcher
    Personally I think she is over-rated and over-payed. I know many people
    in my work place who have abandoned the show over the last few months,
    many because of her. Top marks to Mick Slater in East Timor for exposing
    her as the shallow lightweight she is. and really, isnt there anything
    else more important to discuss?

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:22am
    Raphael
    How can this be a surprise? She engenders as much anchor weight as a
    bucket full of holes. Mornings are hard enough without that in your ear.
    Your question is has she been given a fair go. My answer is, the second
    day she turned up to work. While you’re at it, the execs who did her
    hiring should also be gently let go, that way we’ll all get a fair go in
    the future.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:22am
    My Say
    maybe 9 should start making a NEWS show in the morning rather than
    trying to compete with that Childrens Program on 7 !

    and yes.... give Jez a go !

    (at least she’s not giggling about everything like those two girlies on 7)

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:21am
    The Boot
    JR? Doesn’t have what it takes for that role, poor and tacky personality.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:20am
    RAHC
    Most employees operate under a set of documents including a position
    description and key performance indictaors. Giving her a “fair go”
    doesn’t come into it. Operating under the laws of natural justice and
    good workplace practice does matter.
    In the opinion of many viewers, Jessica does not fulfil her role as an
    anchor for a morning news show. The performance indicator is in the
    ratings of the show. Since her arrival she has received feedback from
    the public, as have the Nine Network. If she is asked to leave because
    of this, and I think she should, if Peter Overton then decides to leave,
    he will be making a personal decision, overriding his professional
    commitment to his job, and in that case, is that such a great loss? We
    are not talking about hardhitting, ABC/SBS style news and current
    affairs. This is commercial TV where nearly everything is compromised
    for the sake of the shock factor. Are you really telling the viewers
    that JR and PO are the only people who can deliver this drivel
    effectively???

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:19am
    Linda
    Put Rowe on A Current Affair and bring Tracey back to Today!!!!!

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:18am
    Bertie
    Who cares? This is just another story exemplifying the media’s obsession
    with the media. Imagine if every industry spent so much energy examining
    what their key personel were up to or how they were being treated. When
    are you guys going to learn that the MEDIA isn’t the story. You’re
    boring us witless - DO SOME WORK!

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:18am
    Tom
    The huge positive that Jessica Rowe has going for her is that she is
    completely natural and non-pretentious as some other personalties make
    out to be. Jess identifies with the ordinary person whilst the ‘too
    formal and officious’ personalities like Jana Wendt are off-putting for
    the majority of individuals. The producers need to rethink whether the
    Today Show should be more “upmarket” or completely natural and relaxed
    as Sunrise on the Prime network. Given time, I think Jess, with the
    support of management, can turn the show around to identify with the
    majority of viewers, rather than be too upmarket, formal and officious
    as some producers may be trying to achieve. Jess, best wishes!!

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:17am
    NIC
    No, Jessica has definitely not been given a fair go. What has the world
    come to to condemn a person for being able to smile or giggle in the
    morning. On top of that to be judged by the most irritating man to ever
    been on TV - Eddie McGuire. I think the Today Show and all it’s team do
    a fantastic job and as far as I’m concerned leave that other extremely
    irritating Sunrise for dead. That Koch guy is so annoying 1st thing in
    the morning.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:17am
    Kirsten
    Wish people would just leave poor Jessica alone, I think she is great
    and always has a big smile on her face, prefer to watch her then Mel and
    Kochie who are just so fake.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:16am
    Lesley
    I have been a loyal & devoted watcher of the Today show for many years &
    am horrified to read the publicity given to Jessica. I find her to be a
    breath of fresh air, a person whose face is most welcomed into my house.
    SO WHAT! she laughs - what a change from the doom & gloom around to-day.
    Hold in there Jess, we love you in our family.XX

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:15am
    reality
    Shes not performing and that goes for her side kick as well on the
    morning program. Get paid the big bucks expect to perform.

    Theres no fair go or being Mr nice guy when the reality of televison is
    ratings. The better the ratings the more income for the station, hence
    security for all staff. Maybe channel 10 wasnt that bad after all. The
    Sunrise staff seem to come across more relaxed and genuine when
    presenting their program, hence the better ratings.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:14am
    Truth Be Told
    Jessica Rowe is overrated and shouldnt have weaseled out of her contract
    at 10. Together with her co-host, they have the joint personality of a
    dead fish.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:14am
    Pommie Peter
    Sadly it’s time to go Jessica. But what a rotten way to be publicly
    treated.
    Plus what a poor showing of judgement in Ch 9. Just goes to show if you
    haven’t the bottle to front someone up and say “it” to their face -
    someone else will make sure “it” becomes public knowledge.

    Eddie needs to kick some rear ends (including his own) and remind the
    troops they are in a struggle for survival - they really, really are -
    and the previous ways of behaving like school bullies and hunting in
    packs must cease immediately.

    Or else the next owner will simply rub them all out.

    All the effort that has gone into this episode should have been directed
    at sourcing some decent programming, not fooling around like this.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:14am
    Merf
    The sooner they get rid of her the better. Her continuous and annoying
    laugh is enough to drive viewers away.
    If they want to save the show they have to get someone with the class of
    Tracy Grimshaw.
    At the moment 9 it is trying to copy the clowns at 7 when what they need
    is something more upmarket.

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:12am
    k00k
    She may not be the right person for the job, nor have the charisma
    needed for the Today show, but Nine employed her and should stand behind
    her 100%. The fact that they have publicly abandoned her is deplorable.
    Shame Eddie shame. Personally, I would love to see her resign as a slap
    in the face to Eddie and his cohorts…

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:12am
    laurie
    Jessica Rowe is only doing what she was employed to do..the fact that
    she is not very good at it is not the problem...from where I sit, the
    problem is that those who employed her are still in the position of
    employing people who may not be up to speed, it’s them that should be
    seriously looked at.. lets hope it was the same people who employed
    Mcguire, otherwise the network is in real trouble, having more than one
    lot of decision makers, who appear to know very little about their
    market or product, and even less about how to manage it..

    Posted: Wed 28 Jun 06 at 11:11am

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    Ext User(Amarantha) Guest

    Re: Lots of trouble at Nein ...

    "Silent Bob" <fake3192@hotmail.com> wrote in
    news:1151459217.865447.30170@j72g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com:

    >
    > Chock wrote:
    >> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19609630-2,00.html
    >>
    >> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19609492-2,00.html
    >>
    >> http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...nes-reality-tv
    >> /2006/06/27/1151174200749.html?page=fullpage#contentSwap1
    >>

    >
    > Anybody know where we can see this affidavit on the internet?
    >


    There were some excerpts here:
    http://www.arcturus.com.au/crikey20060626.html

    but seems to be down atm. No idea if it'll come back.

    K

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    Ext User(Fish!) Guest

    Re: Lots of trouble at Nein ...

    In article <sBkog.17562$ap3.250@news-server.bigpond.net.au>,
    none@nothere.com says...
    > Chock wrote:
    >
    > >http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19609630-2,00.html
    > >
    > >http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19609492-2,00.html
    > >
    > >http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...e#contentSwap1
    > >
    > >
    > >
    > >

    >
    > Channel nine is going down the gurgler. And Rowe should do the
    > honourable thing and leave!
    >
    >


    And Rowe should do the honourable thing and ALSO go down.

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    Ext User(Whatcher?) Guest

    Re: Lots of trouble at Nein ...


    "Silent Bob" <fake3192@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:1151459217.865447.30170@j72g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
    >
    > Chock wrote:
    >> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19609630-2,00.html
    >>
    >> http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,19609492-2,00.html
    >>
    >> http://www.smh.com.au/news/business/...e#contentSwap1
    >>

    >
    > Anybody know where we can see this affidavit on the internet?
    >


    What is a "the internet"?



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    Ext User(HeadRush) Guest

    Re: Lots of trouble at Nein ...


    "^Temuchin^" <nobeerforyou@temuchins.com.au> wrote in message
    news:44a1e37e$0$12233$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...

    " If Today went back
    > to the classy show that they had 3-4 years ago and stopped trying to copy
    > Sunrise they would start recovering.


    That is the general gist of all those anti-Today Show posts.

    The thing is, even with the serious Steve and Tracey at the Today Show helm,
    viewers still switched over to Sunrise for the so called "silliness".

    Nine is a business, it needs to make money from selling ads, advertisers pay
    more to have their ads on a show with high ratings. If viewers were
    switching over to Sunrise for "silliness", then Nine has to try and get
    those viewers back.

    Sunrise has set the standard for what viewers want from a morning show -
    "silliness", Nine has to follow suit.

    HR




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    Ext User(imorf) Guest

    Re: Lots of trouble at Nein ...

    HeadRush wrote:
    > "^Temuchin^" <nobeerforyou@temuchins.com.au> wrote in message
    > news:44a1e37e$0$12233$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
    >
    > " If Today went back
    >> to the classy show that they had 3-4 years ago and stopped trying to copy
    >> Sunrise they would start recovering.

    >
    > That is the general gist of all those anti-Today Show posts.
    >
    > The thing is, even with the serious Steve and Tracey at the Today Show helm,
    > viewers still switched over to Sunrise for the so called "silliness".
    >
    > Nine is a business, it needs to make money from selling ads, advertisers pay
    > more to have their ads on a show with high ratings. If viewers were
    > switching over to Sunrise for "silliness", then Nine has to try and get
    > those viewers back.
    >
    > Sunrise has set the standard for what viewers want from a morning show -
    > "silliness", Nine has to follow suit.


    yeah, I would be surprised if most people could stomach more serious
    stuff when waking up and eating breakfast.

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    Ext User(David Springthorpe) Guest

    Re: Lots of trouble at Nein ...

    On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:42:06 +1000, Fish! <fugu@tastyfish.com> wrote:

    >And Rowe should do the honourable thing and ALSO go down.


    She's probably already done that just to get the job in the first
    place.....

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    Ext User() Guest

    Re: Lots of trouble at Nein ...


    "HeadRush" <( . )( . )@(_!_).com> wrote in message news:44a236ad$0$28090$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...

    > The thing is, even with the serious Steve and Tracey at the Today Show helm, viewers still switched over to Sunrise for the so
    > called "silliness".


    That's right -- there's nothing serious about getting up at 6am. That's
    why people turned to Sunrise -- to brighten their shitty early rises.



  13. #13
    Ext User(Wolfgang Wildeblood) Guest

    Re: Lots of trouble at Nein ...

    a wrote:
    > "HeadRush" <( . )( . )@(_!_).com> wrote in message news:44a236ad$0$28090$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.a u...
    >
    > > The thing is, even with the serious Steve and Tracey at the Today Show helm, viewers still switched over to Sunrise for the so
    > > called "silliness".

    >
    > That's right -- there's nothing serious about getting up at 6am. That's
    > why people turned to Sunrise -- to brighten their shitty early rises.


    A whole load of crap has been written in recent years about why viewers
    switched to Sunrise. I'll tell you why: Liebmann drove them away.
    September 2001, when he got John Howard on there and berated him about
    why he hadn't declared war on someone - anyone - yet, he showed himself
    to be a warmongering Zionist. The Nein zektivs should have sacked him
    that day - even if they agreed with him (80% of Australians opposed the
    war in Iraq) - but they didn't, and Today began its long, slow death. A
    death caused by Liebmann, even though the agony has been prolonged by
    others. That he now criticizes from the sidelines, and claims the
    decline only started after he left, shows what a nasty little **** he
    is.


  14. #14
    Ext User(lynx) Guest

    Re: Lots of trouble at Nein ...

    David Springthorpe wrote:


    >On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 14:42:06 +1000, Fish! <fugu@tastyfish.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >
    >>And Rowe should do the honourable thing and ALSO go down.
    >>
    >>

    >
    >She's probably already done that just to get the job in the first
    >place.....
    >
    >


    She's Peter Overton's wife, and that's the problem with getting rid of her.

    --

    rgds,

    Pete
    ~~~~~
    'Happiness is not getting what you want- it's wanting what you have'



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