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  1. #1
    Ext User(Jordan) Guest

    Spec'd out PC...

    After spending the last few days re-familiarizing myself with the
    latest and greatest gaming hardware, this is what I've spec'd, posted
    for your comments / suggestions:

    >From NewEgg.com:

    Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -
    OEM
    $204.99 (- $30 mail in rebate = 174.99)

    >From ClubIT.com:

    EVGA GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video
    Card Retail 768-P2-N881-AR
    $589.99 (- $30 MIR = $559.99)

    Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W Power Supply - Retail
    $137.85

    >From MWave.com:

    CRUCIAL BALLISTIX TRACER 2GB PC28500 1066MHZ 5-5-5-15 240-PIN DDR2
    $147.00

    ASUS P5K DELUXE
    $218.40

    INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4GHZ
    $289.00

    ANTEC NINE HUNDRED (BLACK) ATX TOWER CASE
    $106.00

    SONY AWG170S-B2 SATABlack 18X DVD RW 12X RAM DRIVE
    $31.90

    Vista 32bit Home Premium
    $105.90

    Total is $1771 (after mail in rebates).

    Suggestions?

    - Jordan


  2. #2
    Ext User(Jordan) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...

    On Aug 1, 9:46 pm, Mac Cool <M...@2cool.com> wrote:
    > Jordan:
    >
    > > Vista 32bit Home Premium
    > > $105.90

    >
    > Switch to XP unless you are a glutton for punishment. Vista is not quite
    > ready for prime time.
    >
    > --
    > Mac Cool


    Yeah, but I specifically want Vista so I can stay up to date for
    Windows app development purposes. If it's that bad for gaming I can
    setup dual booting to XP.

    Jordan


  3. #3
    Ext User(Mac Cool) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...

    Jordan:

    > Vista 32bit Home Premium
    > $105.90


    Switch to XP unless you are a glutton for punishment. Vista is not quite
    ready for prime time.

    --
    Mac Cool

  4. #4
    Ext User(Paul) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...

    Jordan wrote:
    > After spending the last few days re-familiarizing myself with the
    > latest and greatest gaming hardware, this is what I've spec'd, posted
    > for your comments / suggestions:
    >
    >>From NewEgg.com:

    > Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -
    > OEM
    > $204.99 (- $30 mail in rebate = 174.99)
    >
    >>From ClubIT.com:

    > EVGA GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video
    > Card Retail 768-P2-N881-AR
    > $589.99 (- $30 MIR = $559.99)
    >
    > Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W Power Supply - Retail
    > $137.85
    >
    >>From MWave.com:

    > CRUCIAL BALLISTIX TRACER 2GB PC28500 1066MHZ 5-5-5-15 240-PIN DDR2
    > $147.00
    >
    > ASUS P5K DELUXE
    > $218.40
    >
    > INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4GHZ
    > $289.00
    >
    > ANTEC NINE HUNDRED (BLACK) ATX TOWER CASE
    > $106.00
    >
    > SONY AWG170S-B2 SATABlack 18X DVD RW 12X RAM DRIVE
    > $31.90
    >
    > Vista 32bit Home Premium
    > $105.90
    >
    > Total is $1771 (after mail in rebates).
    >
    > Suggestions?
    >
    > - Jordan
    >


    The only thing that comes to mind, is the dimensions of the video card.
    The Newegg review for the card, says it is 12" long. I don't know if that
    is true or not. The Antec Nine Hundred is 18.4" deep. I measured a new
    hard drive I got yesterday, and it is roughly 6" long. I think I'd look for
    some comments from users of the 8800 family, as to how hard they are to fit.
    Maybe the drive tray has to be removed, or no drives installed opposite the
    video card.

    Second fit issue, is the end of the card, will cover two or maybe four
    of the six SATA connectors on the motherboard. I don't know if a
    right-angle or left-angle SATA cable is squat enough to fit underneath
    the EVGA "box" around the video card or not.

    The hump on the EVGA card, probably won't interfere with your side
    panel, since the side panel doesn't appear to have a fan mounted on it.
    If the computer case has a side fan, there is a small danger that the
    fan will bump into the "hump".

    Another thing I'd want to look into, is the cooler on the card. It looks
    like some air exits through the dual slot exhaust port. But some air also
    recirculates inside the computer case, as there are vents on the face of
    the card. It would be nice to duct that air outside the case as well, but
    I don't know if you can buy a solution at retail to do that or not.

    Paul

  5. #5
    Ext User(Jordan) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...

    On Aug 1, 9:46 pm, Mac Cool <M...@2cool.com> wrote:
    > Jordan:
    >
    > > Vista 32bit Home Premium
    > > $105.90

    >
    > Switch to XP unless you are a glutton for punishment. Vista is not quite
    > ready for prime time.
    >
    > --
    > Mac Cool


    Yeah, but I specifically want Vista so I can stay up to date for
    Windows app development purposes. If it's that bad for gaming I can
    setup dual booting to XP.

    Jordan


  6. #6
    Ext User(Ed Medlin) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...


    "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:f8s3or$s5g$1@aioe.org...
    > Jordan wrote:
    >> After spending the last few days re-familiarizing myself with the
    >> latest and greatest gaming hardware, this is what I've spec'd, posted
    >> for your comments / suggestions:
    >>
    >>>From NewEgg.com:

    >> Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -
    >> OEM
    >> $204.99 (- $30 mail in rebate = 174.99)
    >>
    >>>From ClubIT.com:

    >> EVGA GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video
    >> Card Retail 768-P2-N881-AR
    >> $589.99 (- $30 MIR = $559.99)
    >>
    >> Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W Power Supply - Retail
    >> $137.85
    >>
    >>>From MWave.com:

    >> CRUCIAL BALLISTIX TRACER 2GB PC28500 1066MHZ 5-5-5-15 240-PIN DDR2
    >> $147.00
    >>
    >> ASUS P5K DELUXE
    >> $218.40
    >>
    >> INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4GHZ
    >> $289.00
    >>
    >> ANTEC NINE HUNDRED (BLACK) ATX TOWER CASE
    >> $106.00
    >>
    >> SONY AWG170S-B2 SATABlack 18X DVD RW 12X RAM DRIVE
    >> $31.90
    >>
    >> Vista 32bit Home Premium
    >> $105.90
    >>
    >> Total is $1771 (after mail in rebates).
    >>
    >> Suggestions?
    >>
    >> - Jordan
    >>

    >
    > The only thing that comes to mind, is the dimensions of the video card.
    > The Newegg review for the card, says it is 12" long. I don't know if that
    > is true or not. The Antec Nine Hundred is 18.4" deep. I measured a new
    > hard drive I got yesterday, and it is roughly 6" long. I think I'd look
    > for
    > some comments from users of the 8800 family, as to how hard they are to
    > fit.
    > Maybe the drive tray has to be removed, or no drives installed opposite
    > the
    > video card.
    >
    > Second fit issue, is the end of the card, will cover two or maybe four
    > of the six SATA connectors on the motherboard. I don't know if a
    > right-angle or left-angle SATA cable is squat enough to fit underneath
    > the EVGA "box" around the video card or not.
    >
    > The hump on the EVGA card, probably won't interfere with your side
    > panel, since the side panel doesn't appear to have a fan mounted on it.
    > If the computer case has a side fan, there is a small danger that the
    > fan will bump into the "hump".
    >
    > Another thing I'd want to look into, is the cooler on the card. It looks
    > like some air exits through the dual slot exhaust port. But some air also
    > recirculates inside the computer case, as there are vents on the face of
    > the card. It would be nice to duct that air outside the case as well, but
    > I don't know if you can buy a solution at retail to do that or not.
    >
    > Paul

    I wouldn't worry too much about the heat getting into the case. I run two
    8800 GTX cards in SLI and am able to maintain a case temp (measured with
    thermistor in center of case) of 26c so the vast majority of the heat is
    exhausted out the back. The size of the cards is another matter. They will
    barely fit into a Lian Li PC 60 series case with no room to spare at all. I
    use the Swiftech QuietPower which is a liquid cooled Antec P180 case modded
    by Swiftech and they fit fine. The actual size of my 8800 GTX cards is more
    like 11" than 12" so the Ultra may be slightly larger and if so, I would
    definately take some time to pick out a proper case.

    Ed



  7. #7
    Ext User(Paul) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...

    Jordan wrote:
    > After spending the last few days re-familiarizing myself with the
    > latest and greatest gaming hardware, this is what I've spec'd, posted
    > for your comments / suggestions:
    >
    >>From NewEgg.com:

    > Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -
    > OEM
    > $204.99 (- $30 mail in rebate = 174.99)
    >
    >>From ClubIT.com:

    > EVGA GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video
    > Card Retail 768-P2-N881-AR
    > $589.99 (- $30 MIR = $559.99)
    >
    > Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W Power Supply - Retail
    > $137.85
    >
    >>From MWave.com:

    > CRUCIAL BALLISTIX TRACER 2GB PC28500 1066MHZ 5-5-5-15 240-PIN DDR2
    > $147.00
    >
    > ASUS P5K DELUXE
    > $218.40
    >
    > INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4GHZ
    > $289.00
    >
    > ANTEC NINE HUNDRED (BLACK) ATX TOWER CASE
    > $106.00
    >
    > SONY AWG170S-B2 SATABlack 18X DVD RW 12X RAM DRIVE
    > $31.90
    >
    > Vista 32bit Home Premium
    > $105.90
    >
    > Total is $1771 (after mail in rebates).
    >
    > Suggestions?
    >
    > - Jordan
    >


    The only thing that comes to mind, is the dimensions of the video card.
    The Newegg review for the card, says it is 12" long. I don't know if that
    is true or not. The Antec Nine Hundred is 18.4" deep. I measured a new
    hard drive I got yesterday, and it is roughly 6" long. I think I'd look for
    some comments from users of the 8800 family, as to how hard they are to fit.
    Maybe the drive tray has to be removed, or no drives installed opposite the
    video card.

    Second fit issue, is the end of the card, will cover two or maybe four
    of the six SATA connectors on the motherboard. I don't know if a
    right-angle or left-angle SATA cable is squat enough to fit underneath
    the EVGA "box" around the video card or not.

    The hump on the EVGA card, probably won't interfere with your side
    panel, since the side panel doesn't appear to have a fan mounted on it.
    If the computer case has a side fan, there is a small danger that the
    fan will bump into the "hump".

    Another thing I'd want to look into, is the cooler on the card. It looks
    like some air exits through the dual slot exhaust port. But some air also
    recirculates inside the computer case, as there are vents on the face of
    the card. It would be nice to duct that air outside the case as well, but
    I don't know if you can buy a solution at retail to do that or not.

    Paul

  8. #8
    Ext User(Jordan) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...

    On Aug 2, 4:16 am, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
    > Jordan wrote:
    > > After spending the last few days re-familiarizing myself with the
    > > latest and greatest gaming hardware, this is what I've spec'd, posted
    > > for your comments / suggestions:

    >
    > >>From NewEgg.com:

    > > Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -
    > > OEM
    > > $204.99 (- $30 mail in rebate = 174.99)

    >
    > >>From ClubIT.com:

    > > EVGA GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video
    > > Card Retail 768-P2-N881-AR
    > > $589.99 (- $30 MIR = $559.99)

    >
    > > Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W Power Supply - Retail
    > > $137.85

    >
    > >>From MWave.com:

    > > CRUCIAL BALLISTIX TRACER 2GB PC28500 1066MHZ 5-5-5-15 240-PIN DDR2
    > > $147.00

    >
    > > ASUS P5K DELUXE
    > > $218.40

    >
    > > INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4GHZ
    > > $289.00

    >
    > > ANTEC NINE HUNDRED (BLACK) ATX TOWER CASE
    > > $106.00

    >
    > > SONY AWG170S-B2 SATABlack 18X DVD RW 12X RAM DRIVE
    > > $31.90

    >
    > > Vista 32bit Home Premium
    > > $105.90

    >
    > > Total is $1771 (after mail in rebates).

    >
    > > Suggestions?

    >
    > > - Jordan

    >
    > The only thing that comes to mind, is the dimensions of the video card.
    > The Newegg review for the card, says it is 12" long. I don't know if that
    > is true or not. The Antec Nine Hundred is 18.4" deep. I measured a new
    > hard drive I got yesterday, and it is roughly 6" long. I think I'd look for
    > some comments from users of the 8800 family, as to how hard they are to fit.
    > Maybe the drive tray has to be removed, or no drives installed opposite the
    > video card.
    >
    > Second fit issue, is the end of the card, will cover two or maybe four
    > of the six SATA connectors on the motherboard. I don't know if a
    > right-angle or left-angle SATA cable is squat enough to fit underneath
    > the EVGA "box" around the video card or not.
    >
    > The hump on the EVGA card, probably won't interfere with your side
    > panel, since the side panel doesn't appear to have a fan mounted on it.
    > If the computer case has a side fan, there is a small danger that the
    > fan will bump into the "hump".
    >
    > Another thing I'd want to look into, is the cooler on the card. It looks
    > like some air exits through the dual slot exhaust port. But some air also
    > recirculates inside the computer case, as there are vents on the face of
    > the card. It would be nice to duct that air outside the case as well, but
    > I don't know if you can buy a solution at retail to do that or not.
    >
    > Paul- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    Thanks for the comments. One of the reviews I read on newegg was from
    a user that had the same Antec Nine Hundred case that I have spec'd,
    and he didn't say anything about having to remove a harddrive.
    However, I will have to look into the SATA connector issue you pointed
    out.

    Another issue that I am undecided on is the DDR2. I went with DDR2
    because I can currently get faster RAM in DDR2 than DDR3. One
    strategy might be to go ahead and get the DDR3 version of this
    motherboard with some slower DDR3 with plans to swap out when faster
    DDR3 comes out, but I don't forsee myself selling 2GB of DDR3 to
    upgrade to slightly faster DDR3... thus, I went with the faster /
    cheaper DDR2 RAM for now. Thoughts?

    Finally, I understand that the nVidia G92 cards are coming out this
    year that will be 2 - 3 times faster than the current 8800 crop. As
    much as I'm itching to pull the trigger on a system now, I'm
    contemplating waiting.


    Jordan


  9. #9
    Ext User(MikeB) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...

    On Aug 1, 4:58 pm, Jordan <jnm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > After spending the last few days re-familiarizing myself with the
    > latest and greatest gaming hardware, this is what I've spec'd, posted
    > for your comments / suggestions:
    >
    > >From NewEgg.com:

    >
    > Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -
    > OEM
    > $204.99 (- $30 mail in rebate = 174.99)
    >
    > >From ClubIT.com:

    >
    > EVGA GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video
    > Card Retail 768-P2-N881-AR
    > $589.99 (- $30 MIR = $559.99)
    >
    > Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W Power Supply - Retail
    > $137.85
    >
    > >From MWave.com:

    >
    > CRUCIAL BALLISTIX TRACER 2GB PC28500 1066MHZ 5-5-5-15 240-PIN DDR2
    > $147.00
    >
    > ASUS P5K DELUXE
    > $218.40
    >
    > INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4GHZ
    > $289.00
    >
    > ANTEC NINE HUNDRED (BLACK) ATX TOWER CASE
    > $106.00
    >
    > SONY AWG170S-B2 SATABlack 18X DVD RW 12X RAM DRIVE
    > $31.90
    >
    > Vista 32bit Home Premium
    > $105.90
    >
    > Total is $1771 (after mail in rebates).
    >
    > Suggestions?
    >
    > - Jordan


    I've an observation. You spec'd a drive that has a 150Mb/s transfer
    speed, there are many drives at 3Mb/s transfer speed. I don't know how
    much of a difference that would make, but th eprice diff isn't that
    big when I looked.


  10. #10
    Ext User(Paul) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...

    MikeB wrote:
    > On Aug 1, 4:58 pm, Jordan <jnm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >> After spending the last few days re-familiarizing myself with the
    >> latest and greatest gaming hardware, this is what I've spec'd, posted
    >> for your comments / suggestions:
    >>
    >> >From NewEgg.com:

    >>
    >> Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -
    >> OEM
    >> $204.99 (- $30 mail in rebate = 174.99)
    >>
    >> >From ClubIT.com:

    >>
    >> EVGA GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video
    >> Card Retail 768-P2-N881-AR
    >> $589.99 (- $30 MIR = $559.99)
    >>
    >> Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W Power Supply - Retail
    >> $137.85
    >>
    >> >From MWave.com:

    >>
    >> CRUCIAL BALLISTIX TRACER 2GB PC28500 1066MHZ 5-5-5-15 240-PIN DDR2
    >> $147.00
    >>
    >> ASUS P5K DELUXE
    >> $218.40
    >>
    >> INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4GHZ
    >> $289.00
    >>
    >> ANTEC NINE HUNDRED (BLACK) ATX TOWER CASE
    >> $106.00
    >>
    >> SONY AWG170S-B2 SATABlack 18X DVD RW 12X RAM DRIVE
    >> $31.90
    >>
    >> Vista 32bit Home Premium
    >> $105.90
    >>
    >> Total is $1771 (after mail in rebates).
    >>
    >> Suggestions?
    >>
    >> - Jordan

    >
    > I've an observation. You spec'd a drive that has a 150Mb/s transfer
    > speed, there are many drives at 3Mb/s transfer speed. I don't know how
    > much of a difference that would make, but th eprice diff isn't that
    > big when I looked.
    >


    The Raptor is for reduced seek time. More I/O operations per
    second. The straight line speed isn't that much greater, but
    a reduced seek, makes the search command run faster. Even 150MB/sec
    is sufficient to handle the best case 88MB/sec sustained read speed
    of the Raptor.

    Paul

  11. #11
    Ext User(Ed Medlin) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...


    "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message news:f8s3or$s5g$1@aioe.org...
    > Jordan wrote:
    >> After spending the last few days re-familiarizing myself with the
    >> latest and greatest gaming hardware, this is what I've spec'd, posted
    >> for your comments / suggestions:
    >>
    >>>From NewEgg.com:

    >> Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -
    >> OEM
    >> $204.99 (- $30 mail in rebate = 174.99)
    >>
    >>>From ClubIT.com:

    >> EVGA GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video
    >> Card Retail 768-P2-N881-AR
    >> $589.99 (- $30 MIR = $559.99)
    >>
    >> Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W Power Supply - Retail
    >> $137.85
    >>
    >>>From MWave.com:

    >> CRUCIAL BALLISTIX TRACER 2GB PC28500 1066MHZ 5-5-5-15 240-PIN DDR2
    >> $147.00
    >>
    >> ASUS P5K DELUXE
    >> $218.40
    >>
    >> INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4GHZ
    >> $289.00
    >>
    >> ANTEC NINE HUNDRED (BLACK) ATX TOWER CASE
    >> $106.00
    >>
    >> SONY AWG170S-B2 SATABlack 18X DVD RW 12X RAM DRIVE
    >> $31.90
    >>
    >> Vista 32bit Home Premium
    >> $105.90
    >>
    >> Total is $1771 (after mail in rebates).
    >>
    >> Suggestions?
    >>
    >> - Jordan
    >>

    >
    > The only thing that comes to mind, is the dimensions of the video card.
    > The Newegg review for the card, says it is 12" long. I don't know if that
    > is true or not. The Antec Nine Hundred is 18.4" deep. I measured a new
    > hard drive I got yesterday, and it is roughly 6" long. I think I'd look
    > for
    > some comments from users of the 8800 family, as to how hard they are to
    > fit.
    > Maybe the drive tray has to be removed, or no drives installed opposite
    > the
    > video card.
    >
    > Second fit issue, is the end of the card, will cover two or maybe four
    > of the six SATA connectors on the motherboard. I don't know if a
    > right-angle or left-angle SATA cable is squat enough to fit underneath
    > the EVGA "box" around the video card or not.
    >
    > The hump on the EVGA card, probably won't interfere with your side
    > panel, since the side panel doesn't appear to have a fan mounted on it.
    > If the computer case has a side fan, there is a small danger that the
    > fan will bump into the "hump".
    >
    > Another thing I'd want to look into, is the cooler on the card. It looks
    > like some air exits through the dual slot exhaust port. But some air also
    > recirculates inside the computer case, as there are vents on the face of
    > the card. It would be nice to duct that air outside the case as well, but
    > I don't know if you can buy a solution at retail to do that or not.
    >
    > Paul

    I wouldn't worry too much about the heat getting into the case. I run two
    8800 GTX cards in SLI and am able to maintain a case temp (measured with
    thermistor in center of case) of 26c so the vast majority of the heat is
    exhausted out the back. The size of the cards is another matter. They will
    barely fit into a Lian Li PC 60 series case with no room to spare at all. I
    use the Swiftech QuietPower which is a liquid cooled Antec P180 case modded
    by Swiftech and they fit fine. The actual size of my 8800 GTX cards is more
    like 11" than 12" so the Ultra may be slightly larger and if so, I would
    definately take some time to pick out a proper case.

    Ed



  12. #12
    Ext User(Jordan) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...

    On Aug 2, 4:16 am, Paul <nos...@needed.com> wrote:
    > Jordan wrote:
    > > After spending the last few days re-familiarizing myself with the
    > > latest and greatest gaming hardware, this is what I've spec'd, posted
    > > for your comments / suggestions:

    >
    > >>From NewEgg.com:

    > > Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -
    > > OEM
    > > $204.99 (- $30 mail in rebate = 174.99)

    >
    > >>From ClubIT.com:

    > > EVGA GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video
    > > Card Retail 768-P2-N881-AR
    > > $589.99 (- $30 MIR = $559.99)

    >
    > > Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W Power Supply - Retail
    > > $137.85

    >
    > >>From MWave.com:

    > > CRUCIAL BALLISTIX TRACER 2GB PC28500 1066MHZ 5-5-5-15 240-PIN DDR2
    > > $147.00

    >
    > > ASUS P5K DELUXE
    > > $218.40

    >
    > > INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4GHZ
    > > $289.00

    >
    > > ANTEC NINE HUNDRED (BLACK) ATX TOWER CASE
    > > $106.00

    >
    > > SONY AWG170S-B2 SATABlack 18X DVD RW 12X RAM DRIVE
    > > $31.90

    >
    > > Vista 32bit Home Premium
    > > $105.90

    >
    > > Total is $1771 (after mail in rebates).

    >
    > > Suggestions?

    >
    > > - Jordan

    >
    > The only thing that comes to mind, is the dimensions of the video card.
    > The Newegg review for the card, says it is 12" long. I don't know if that
    > is true or not. The Antec Nine Hundred is 18.4" deep. I measured a new
    > hard drive I got yesterday, and it is roughly 6" long. I think I'd look for
    > some comments from users of the 8800 family, as to how hard they are to fit.
    > Maybe the drive tray has to be removed, or no drives installed opposite the
    > video card.
    >
    > Second fit issue, is the end of the card, will cover two or maybe four
    > of the six SATA connectors on the motherboard. I don't know if a
    > right-angle or left-angle SATA cable is squat enough to fit underneath
    > the EVGA "box" around the video card or not.
    >
    > The hump on the EVGA card, probably won't interfere with your side
    > panel, since the side panel doesn't appear to have a fan mounted on it.
    > If the computer case has a side fan, there is a small danger that the
    > fan will bump into the "hump".
    >
    > Another thing I'd want to look into, is the cooler on the card. It looks
    > like some air exits through the dual slot exhaust port. But some air also
    > recirculates inside the computer case, as there are vents on the face of
    > the card. It would be nice to duct that air outside the case as well, but
    > I don't know if you can buy a solution at retail to do that or not.
    >
    > Paul- Hide quoted text -
    >
    > - Show quoted text -


    Thanks for the comments. One of the reviews I read on newegg was from
    a user that had the same Antec Nine Hundred case that I have spec'd,
    and he didn't say anything about having to remove a harddrive.
    However, I will have to look into the SATA connector issue you pointed
    out.

    Another issue that I am undecided on is the DDR2. I went with DDR2
    because I can currently get faster RAM in DDR2 than DDR3. One
    strategy might be to go ahead and get the DDR3 version of this
    motherboard with some slower DDR3 with plans to swap out when faster
    DDR3 comes out, but I don't forsee myself selling 2GB of DDR3 to
    upgrade to slightly faster DDR3... thus, I went with the faster /
    cheaper DDR2 RAM for now. Thoughts?

    Finally, I understand that the nVidia G92 cards are coming out this
    year that will be 2 - 3 times faster than the current 8800 crop. As
    much as I'm itching to pull the trigger on a system now, I'm
    contemplating waiting.


    Jordan


  13. #13
    Ext User(MikeB) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...

    On Aug 1, 4:58 pm, Jordan <jnm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > After spending the last few days re-familiarizing myself with the
    > latest and greatest gaming hardware, this is what I've spec'd, posted
    > for your comments / suggestions:
    >
    > >From NewEgg.com:

    >
    > Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -
    > OEM
    > $204.99 (- $30 mail in rebate = 174.99)
    >
    > >From ClubIT.com:

    >
    > EVGA GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video
    > Card Retail 768-P2-N881-AR
    > $589.99 (- $30 MIR = $559.99)
    >
    > Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W Power Supply - Retail
    > $137.85
    >
    > >From MWave.com:

    >
    > CRUCIAL BALLISTIX TRACER 2GB PC28500 1066MHZ 5-5-5-15 240-PIN DDR2
    > $147.00
    >
    > ASUS P5K DELUXE
    > $218.40
    >
    > INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4GHZ
    > $289.00
    >
    > ANTEC NINE HUNDRED (BLACK) ATX TOWER CASE
    > $106.00
    >
    > SONY AWG170S-B2 SATABlack 18X DVD RW 12X RAM DRIVE
    > $31.90
    >
    > Vista 32bit Home Premium
    > $105.90
    >
    > Total is $1771 (after mail in rebates).
    >
    > Suggestions?
    >
    > - Jordan


    I've an observation. You spec'd a drive that has a 150Mb/s transfer
    speed, there are many drives at 3Mb/s transfer speed. I don't know how
    much of a difference that would make, but th eprice diff isn't that
    big when I looked.


  14. #14
    Ext User(Paul) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...

    MikeB wrote:
    > On Aug 1, 4:58 pm, Jordan <jnm...@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >> After spending the last few days re-familiarizing myself with the
    >> latest and greatest gaming hardware, this is what I've spec'd, posted
    >> for your comments / suggestions:
    >>
    >> >From NewEgg.com:

    >>
    >> Western Digital Raptor 150GB 10,000 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive -
    >> OEM
    >> $204.99 (- $30 mail in rebate = 174.99)
    >>
    >> >From ClubIT.com:

    >>
    >> EVGA GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB 384bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video
    >> Card Retail 768-P2-N881-AR
    >> $589.99 (- $30 MIR = $559.99)
    >>
    >> Corsair CMPSU-620HX 620W Power Supply - Retail
    >> $137.85
    >>
    >> >From MWave.com:

    >>
    >> CRUCIAL BALLISTIX TRACER 2GB PC28500 1066MHZ 5-5-5-15 240-PIN DDR2
    >> $147.00
    >>
    >> ASUS P5K DELUXE
    >> $218.40
    >>
    >> INTEL CORE 2 QUAD Q6600 2.4GHZ
    >> $289.00
    >>
    >> ANTEC NINE HUNDRED (BLACK) ATX TOWER CASE
    >> $106.00
    >>
    >> SONY AWG170S-B2 SATABlack 18X DVD RW 12X RAM DRIVE
    >> $31.90
    >>
    >> Vista 32bit Home Premium
    >> $105.90
    >>
    >> Total is $1771 (after mail in rebates).
    >>
    >> Suggestions?
    >>
    >> - Jordan

    >
    > I've an observation. You spec'd a drive that has a 150Mb/s transfer
    > speed, there are many drives at 3Mb/s transfer speed. I don't know how
    > much of a difference that would make, but th eprice diff isn't that
    > big when I looked.
    >


    The Raptor is for reduced seek time. More I/O operations per
    second. The straight line speed isn't that much greater, but
    a reduced seek, makes the search command run faster. Even 150MB/sec
    is sufficient to handle the best case 88MB/sec sustained read speed
    of the Raptor.

    Paul

  15. #15
    Ext User(Jordan) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...

    > Suggestions?

    Just to follow up, I assembled this rig over the weekend and am quite
    pleased with it! I spent many hours playing Quake 4 yesterday with
    all graphic setting maxed out and it was very smooth.

    Jordan


  16. #16
    Ext User(Jordan) Guest

    Re: Spec'd out PC...

    > Suggestions?

    Just to follow up, I assembled this rig over the weekend and am quite
    pleased with it! I spent many hours playing Quake 4 yesterday with
    all graphic setting maxed out and it was very smooth.

    Jordan


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