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  1. #1
    Phil Guest

    How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?

    How much are current subscribers expected to pay to join the digital
    service in March 04?

    I understand the entry level price is expected to be $47.95 per month.
    Do we need to pay for the set top box?

  2. #2
    Mike Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?


    "Phil" <pstornelli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:5f4bacb5.0312200319.4738d026@posting.google.c om...
    > How much are current subscribers expected to pay to join the digital
    > service in March 04?
    >
    > I understand the entry level price is expected to be $47.95 per month.
    > Do we need to pay for the set top box?


    I think you'll find you'll have to cough up for the STB but the other prices
    will be the same.



  3. #3
    The Family Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?

    Entry level pricing will be about $59/month but think in terms of $130/month
    for a comprehensive service.

    Also, add about $10/month for modem calls. Much of what you do with the
    interactive controller will initiate a modem call, even in some cases to do
    a simple channel change. Don't forget that Telstra owns half of Foxtel and
    is keen to get more phone call revenue out of the Foxtel digital "upgrade."


    "Phil" <pstornelli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:5f4bacb5.0312200319.4738d026@posting.google.c om...
    > How much are current subscribers expected to pay to join the digital
    > service in March 04?
    >
    > I understand the entry level price is expected to be $47.95 per month.
    > Do we need to pay for the set top box?




  4. #4
    Tallulah Blanket Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?

    Mike wrote:

    > "Phil" <pstornelli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:5f4bacb5.0312200319.4738d026@posting.google.c om...
    >
    >>How much are current subscribers expected to pay to join the digital
    >>service in March 04?
    >>
    >>I understand the entry level price is expected to be $47.95 per month.
    >>Do we need to pay for the set top box?

    >
    >
    > I think you'll find you'll have to cough up for the STB but the other prices
    > will be the same.
    >
    >

    No, you won't pay for the STB - this is not like Sky in the UK as Foxtel
    want to retain control of the STB. The cost of basic will be similar to
    the current satellite price.


  5. #5
    The original me Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?


    "Tallulah Blanket" <beulah@peelmeagrape.com> wrote in message
    news:gt3Fb.59802$aT.46546@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    > Mike wrote:
    >
    > > "Phil" <pstornelli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:5f4bacb5.0312200319.4738d026@posting.google.c om...
    > >
    > >>How much are current subscribers expected to pay to join the digital
    > >>service in March 04?
    > >>
    > >>I understand the entry level price is expected to be $47.95 per month.
    > >>Do we need to pay for the set top box?

    > >
    > >
    > > I think you'll find you'll have to cough up for the STB but the other

    prices
    > > will be the same.
    > >
    > >

    > No, you won't pay for the STB - this is not like Sky in the UK as Foxtel
    > want to retain control of the STB. The cost of basic will be similar to
    > the current satellite price.


    I agree. You will continue to rent the STB and Foxtel continue to own it.



  6. #6
    s Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?

    The Family wrote:

    > Entry level pricing will be about $59/month but think in terms of
    > $130/month for a comprehensive service.
    >
    > Also, add about $10/month for modem calls. Much of what you do with the


    They shouldn't need to use a modem to call somewhere .. remember that the
    same cable is used for bigpond broadband, they could easily send the
    query/packets over the cable.

    > interactive controller will initiate a modem call, even in some cases to
    > do
    > a simple channel change. Don't forget that Telstra owns half of Foxtel
    > and is keen to get more phone call revenue out of the Foxtel digital
    > "upgrade."
    >
    >
    > "Phil" <pstornelli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:5f4bacb5.0312200319.4738d026@posting.google.c om...
    >> How much are current subscribers expected to pay to join the digital
    >> service in March 04?
    >>
    >> I understand the entry level price is expected to be $47.95 per month.
    >> Do we need to pay for the set top box?



  7. #7
    The Family Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?


    "s" <root@localhost.localdomain> wrote in message
    news:Wm6Fb.60009$aT.19815@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    > The Family wrote:
    >
    > > Entry level pricing will be about $59/month but think in terms of
    > > $130/month for a comprehensive service.
    > >
    > > Also, add about $10/month for modem calls. Much of what you do with the

    >
    > They shouldn't need to use a modem to call somewhere .. remember that the
    > same cable is used for bigpond broadband, they could easily send the
    > query/packets over the cable.
    >


    That's way too obvious! Remember that Telstra wants to make phone call
    money - why do the controlling via broadband without additional charges when
    by insisting on a phone/modem hookup Telstra will dial itself into another
    revenue stream.

    Also, satellite subscribers don't automatically get a broadband connection
    with Foxtel, thus presenting a minor technical problem and a marketing
    opportunity.

    I can see the marketing spiel already... "everybody" gets a "free" modem and
    dialup connection for controlling their Foxtel. Simple, easy... and only a
    small 22c/call charge to use it. Why complicate life by supplying a free
    broadband option for cable customers? [Unsaid - Telstra probably gets at
    least a call or two per day out of this cute arrangement - or around a tidy
    $10/month. So for every million Foxtel subscribers, the Big T gets a tidy
    $120M a year! Not bad for doing nothing, huh?

    > > interactive controller will initiate a modem call, even in some cases to
    > > do
    > > a simple channel change. Don't forget that Telstra owns half of Foxtel
    > > and is keen to get more phone call revenue out of the Foxtel digital
    > > "upgrade."
    > >
    > >
    > > "Phil" <pstornelli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:5f4bacb5.0312200319.4738d026@posting.google.c om...
    > >> How much are current subscribers expected to pay to join the digital
    > >> service in March 04?
    > >>
    > >> I understand the entry level price is expected to be $47.95 per month.
    > >> Do we need to pay for the set top box?

    >




  8. #8
    Brissie Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?


    >They shouldn't need to use a modem to call somewhere .. remember that the
    >same cable is used for bigpond broadband, they could easily send the
    >query/packets over the cable.


    That'll require a cable modem inside the STB which will raise the
    price significantly.

  9. #9
    Brissie Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?

    > Don't forget that Telstra owns half of Foxtel and
    >is keen to get more phone call revenue out of the Foxtel digital "upgrade."


    They won't be getting any from those with Optus phone. Optus will be
    getting the money.

  10. #10
    Brian Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?

    On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 03:06:27 +1030, "The Family"
    <someone@somewhere.com> wrote:

    >Entry level pricing will be about $59/month but think in terms of $130/month
    >for a comprehensive service.
    >
    >Also, add about $10/month for modem calls. Much of what you do with the
    >interactive controller will initiate a modem call, even in some cases to do
    >a simple channel change. Don't forget that Telstra owns half of Foxtel and
    >is keen to get more phone call revenue out of the Foxtel digital "upgrade."


    Another reason to cancel your subscription..... (if you have one) :)

  11. #11
    Brian Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?

    On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 01:07:02 GMT, s <root@localhost.localdomain>
    wrote:

    >The Family wrote:
    >
    >> Entry level pricing will be about $59/month but think in terms of
    >> $130/month for a comprehensive service.
    >>
    >> Also, add about $10/month for modem calls. Much of what you do with the

    >
    >They shouldn't need to use a modem to call somewhere .. remember that the
    >same cable is used for bigpond broadband, they could easily send the
    >query/packets over the cable.
    >


    Satellite works a bit different... modem for the upstream.

  12. #12
    foo Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?

    "The Family" <someone@somewhere.com> wrote in
    news:3fe47a90$1@duster.adelaide.on.net:

    > Entry level pricing will be about $59/month but think in terms of
    > $130/month for a comprehensive service.
    >
    > Also, add about $10/month for modem calls. Much of what you do with
    > the interactive controller will initiate a modem call,
    >even in some cases to do a simple channel change.


    Not very likely. Modem dialup delays would make that particular idea
    pretty atrocious.

    Go read up on how BSkyB's interactive services work.

    In general, FOXTEL's services are very likely to work the same way; premium
    numbers used to charge for pay-per-use services like pay-to-play games.
    Local or free calls used for most other things where there's a subscription
    or other charge levied [eg impulse-pay-per-view movies ]

    Services which actually use the modem for extensive data transfer will
    probably also use a premium number and/or timed charging.. depends on the
    model they choose.

    > Don't forget that Telstra owns
    > half of Foxtel and is keen to get more phone call revenue out of the
    > Foxtel digital "upgrade."


    But they're not stupid.


  13. #13
    Thomas 'bacco|007' Baxter Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?

    On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:34:16 +1000, Brissie wrote:

    > They won't be getting any from those with Optus phone. Optus will be
    > getting the money.


    But Optus still get billed by Telstra if they are on a Telstra Line

  14. #14
    Brian Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?

    On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 08:37:38 +0000 (UTC), foo <foo@bar.com> wrote:


    >Not very likely. Modem dialup delays would make that particular idea
    >pretty atrocious.


    Doesnt stop Foxtel from doing it

    >Go read up on how BSkyB's interactive services work.
    >
    >In general, FOXTEL's services are very likely to work the same way; premium
    >numbers used to charge for pay-per-use services like pay-to-play games.
    >Local or free calls used for most other things where there's a subscription
    >or other charge levied [eg impulse-pay-per-view movies ]
    >
    >Services which actually use the modem for extensive data transfer will
    >probably also use a premium number and/or timed charging.. depends on the
    >model they choose.
    >
    >> Don't forget that Telstra owns
    >> half of Foxtel and is keen to get more phone call revenue out of the
    >> Foxtel digital "upgrade."

    >
    >But they're not stupid.
    >


    Yes they are. The technical problems of late are prime example.

  15. #15
    foo Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?

    Brian <email address removed to protect me from spam, spam, spam> wrote
    in news:lcsauvcrtvmpgslb66l31dl1hn2icjku03@4ax.com:

    > On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 08:37:38 +0000 (UTC), foo <foo@bar.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Not very likely. Modem dialup delays would make that particular idea
    >>pretty atrocious.

    >
    > Doesnt stop Foxtel from doing it


    But Channel changes by *modem*?

    What gives the you the vaguest impression they'd do something like that,
    eh?

    It's not the dumbest idea I've read all week, but it's up there.


    >>But they're not stupid.

    >
    > Yes they are. The technical problems of late are prime example.


    You were addressing a point about Telstra, there, not FOXTEL.

    But since you are in a position to declare who's stupid and who's not,
    perhaps you'd like to share with us all your detailed understanding of
    what's going on, what's wrong and why they're stupid, eh?

    I'm sure we'd all love to hear your expert commentary..

  16. #16
    Mike Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?


    "The original me" <me@me.com> wrote in message
    news:556Fb.59991$aT.33238@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    >
    > "Tallulah Blanket" <beulah@peelmeagrape.com> wrote in message
    > news:gt3Fb.59802$aT.46546@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
    > > Mike wrote:
    > >
    > > > "Phil" <pstornelli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > > news:5f4bacb5.0312200319.4738d026@posting.google.c om...
    > > >
    > > >>How much are current subscribers expected to pay to join the digital
    > > >>service in March 04?
    > > >>
    > > >>I understand the entry level price is expected to be $47.95 per month.
    > > >>Do we need to pay for the set top box?
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > I think you'll find you'll have to cough up for the STB but the other

    > prices
    > > > will be the same.
    > > >
    > > >

    > > No, you won't pay for the STB - this is not like Sky in the UK as Foxtel
    > > want to retain control of the STB. The cost of basic will be similar to
    > > the current satellite price.

    >
    > I agree. You will continue to rent the STB and Foxtel continue to own it.
    >
    >

    Yes, that's what I meant, sorry about not being more specific, the "cough
    up" term should have been rent.



  17. #17
    Me - The Real one! Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?


    "Brissie" <brissie@zwallet.com> wrote in message
    news:q5jauvg82o3n4152o91s0dr4k56f0eetls@4ax.com...
    >
    > >They shouldn't need to use a modem to call somewhere .. remember that the
    > >same cable is used for bigpond broadband, they could easily send the
    > >query/packets over the cable.

    >
    > That'll require a cable modem inside the STB which will raise the
    > price significantly.


    The STB has a USB connection already so anybody a



  18. #18
    Me - The Real one! Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?


    "Brissie" <brissie@zwallet.com> wrote in message
    news:s6jauvo9vkjud6s7suuljsgqa37jb73ou3@4ax.com...
    > > Don't forget that Telstra owns half of Foxtel and
    > >is keen to get more phone call revenue out of the Foxtel digital

    "upgrade."
    >
    > They won't be getting any from those with Optus phone. Optus will be
    > getting the money.


    Which it then passes on to Telstra because Telstra owns the telephone lines.



  19. #19
    Danny Rohr Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?


    Phil <pstornelli@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:5f4bacb5.0312200319.4738d026@posting.google.c om...

    > How much are current subscribers expected to pay to join the digital
    > service in March 04?
    >
    > I understand the entry level price is expected to be $47.95 per month.
    > Do we need to pay for the set top box?


    Exactly, virtually what you pay now for the basic service. Foxtel "Digital"
    isn't going to run in parallel with the old system, its replacing it.

    Extra revenue will then be hopefully extracted via means of NVOD etc from
    the customer base.

    Danny.




  20. #20
    Bubba Guest

    Re: How much will Foxtel Digital TV cost?

    The return signal back to Foxtel Digital (on Cable) will be via the copper
    wire telephone line.
    You will have to pay to upgrade your line if you only have a twisted pair.

    Foxtel Digital will only pay for an outlet where the phone line enters the
    building on your premises.
    If your TV (Set Top Box) is located away from a telephone outlet, then you
    will have to pay extra installation for the upgrade.

    Got this info from a Telstra subbie who was doing some work for me.

    "Brian" <email address removed to protect me from spam, spam, spam> wrote in
    message news:lcsauvcrtvmpgslb66l31dl1hn2icjku03@4ax.com...
    > On Sun, 21 Dec 2003 08:37:38 +0000 (UTC), foo <foo@bar.com> wrote:
    >
    >
    > >Not very likely. Modem dialup delays would make that particular idea
    > >pretty atrocious.

    >
    > Doesnt stop Foxtel from doing it
    >
    > >Go read up on how BSkyB's interactive services work.
    > >
    > >In general, FOXTEL's services are very likely to work the same way;

    premium
    > >numbers used to charge for pay-per-use services like pay-to-play games.
    > >Local or free calls used for most other things where there's a

    subscription
    > >or other charge levied [eg impulse-pay-per-view movies ]
    > >
    > >Services which actually use the modem for extensive data transfer will
    > >probably also use a premium number and/or timed charging.. depends on the
    > >model they choose.
    > >
    > >> Don't forget that Telstra owns
    > >> half of Foxtel and is keen to get more phone call revenue out of the
    > >> Foxtel digital "upgrade."

    > >
    > >But they're not stupid.
    > >

    >
    > Yes they are. The technical problems of late are prime example.




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