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  1. #21
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    Re: Drongo goes Digital

    On 7/02/2012 2:41 AM, DonH wrote:
    > "atec77"<atec77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:jgoi1o$o7l$2@dont-email.me...
    >> On 6/02/2012 4:36 AM, DonH wrote:
    >>> "atec77"<atec77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:jg52lq$66t$2@dont-email.me...
    >>>> On 30/01/2012 1:35 AM, DonH wrote:
    >>>>> "Brad"<google2@vk2qq.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:5711129.405.1327802783494.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prlv30...
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:15:50 AM UTC+11, DonH wrote:
    >>>>>> I may decide to do without DTV-ABC, as all other reception is
    >>>>>> fine.
    >>>>>> This response, however, was received by email, earlier (from a
    >>>>>> professional):
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "Hi Don thanks for the enquiry, if your TV is receiving ABC on
    >>>>>> analogue
    >>>>>> and
    >>>>>> it is somewhat clear then there is no reason why digital shouldn't be
    >>>>>> getting it. It sounds like its an issue with the TV's Digital Tuner.
    >>>>>> Maybe
    >>>>>> call ******** # customer support to see if they have an answer for
    >>>>>> you."
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> # (Brand name suppressed by me, here.)
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> That's just plain wrong. You cannot blindly state that the reception of
    >>>>> CH2
    >>>>> (for which the antenna is designed) should be equal to the reception of
    >>>>> CH12
    >>>>> (for which the antenna is probably not designed.)
    >>>>>
    >>>>> You need a new antenna. An antenna installer can do a survey for you.
    >>>>> They
    >>>>> can measure the strength of the ABC digital signal at the antenna cable
    >>>>> plug
    >>>>> and tell you if it is strong enough. They can also put a temporary
    >>>>> antenna
    >>>>> on the roof and let you see the improvement for yourself.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> # Alright, point taken.
    >>>>> Can you recommend a TV antenna expert in the Camberwell, Vic,
    >>>>> area,
    >>>>> who
    >>>>> will give an assessment, at reasonable price?
    >>>>> As I said earlier, I can live without ABC, if necessary, but it
    >>>>> does
    >>>>> seem
    >>>>> odd that it is the one channel or bandwidth which is unavailable, while
    >>>>> all
    >>>>> other DTV channels give excellent results.
    >>>>> Currently, I can receive ABC on analog, on this new TV set, but,
    >>>>> come
    >>>>> Dec
    >>>>> 2013, it may be goodbye to anything ABC.
    >>>>> (Incidentally, Dick Smith Electronics markets a plug-in TV
    >>>>> Amplifier,
    >>>>> for
    >>>>> about $30 - any use?)
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>> Just go check your local paper , spend the $120 odd and loosen the grip
    >>>> on
    >>>> your purse
    >>>> sop
    >>>>
    >>>> --
    >>>> X-No-Archive: Yes
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>> # Well, I relented and got in the TV specialist.
    >>> Yes, a new antenna fixed the problem.
    >>> So, that's my daughter set up with digital, at her home.
    >>> Now for me; firstly I still use the old ribbon lead from the wall
    >>> plug,
    >>> not co-axial cable...
    >>>
    >>>

    >> Never relenting tight arse eh Don
    >>

    >
    > # If you think I'm going to spend $200 (as advised) to get an expert in to
    > change the wall socket, which I could probably do with a screwdriver (and a
    > bit of knowledge), then forget it.
    > OK, which of the two prongs of a ribbon lead is audio, and which is video?
    > Ever noticed that people are always free with advice when it comes to
    > spending another person's money? "Financial advisers" only do what you
    > could do yourself - and charge a fee.
    > "You are a tight arse; I am merely prudent."
    >
    >
    >

    I suspect even a draconian old fart like you might manage a gpo change ,
    under $10.00 from lousy and hungrys and a couple of bucks for a new cable
    and yes you are a tightarse :P
    if you were closer I would hand you one but not going to spend postage
    on you today :P

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  2. #22
    Ext User(Brad) Guest

    Re: Drongo goes Digital

    On Monday, February 6, 2012 5:36:31 AM UTC+11, DonH wrote:

    > # Well, I relented and got in the TV specialist.
    > Yes, a new antenna fixed the problem.


    I said it would.

    > So, that's my daughter set up with digital, at her home.
    > Now for me; firstly I still use the old ribbon lead from the wall plug,
    > not co-axial cable...


    You can use wet string if you have a strong enough signal. But if you start experiencing problems, you know where to begin trouble shooting.

  3. #23
    Ext User(DonH) Guest

    Re: Drongo goes Digital

    "atec77" <atec77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:jgpuee$tv1$1@dont-email.me...
    > On 7/02/2012 2:41 AM, DonH wrote:
    >> "atec77"<atec77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:jgoi1o$o7l$2@dont-email.me...
    >>> On 6/02/2012 4:36 AM, DonH wrote:
    >>>> "atec77"<atec77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:jg52lq$66t$2@dont-email.me...
    >>>>> On 30/01/2012 1:35 AM, DonH wrote:
    >>>>>> "Brad"<google2@vk2qq.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:5711129.405.1327802783494.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prlv30...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:15:50 AM UTC+11, DonH wrote:
    >>>>>>> I may decide to do without DTV-ABC, as all other reception is
    >>>>>>> fine.
    >>>>>>> This response, however, was received by email, earlier (from a
    >>>>>>> professional):
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> "Hi Don thanks for the enquiry, if your TV is receiving ABC on
    >>>>>>> analogue
    >>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>> it is somewhat clear then there is no reason why digital shouldn't
    >>>>>>> be
    >>>>>>> getting it. It sounds like its an issue with the TV's Digital Tuner.
    >>>>>>> Maybe
    >>>>>>> call ******** # customer support to see if they have an answer for
    >>>>>>> you."
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> # (Brand name suppressed by me, here.)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> That's just plain wrong. You cannot blindly state that the reception
    >>>>>> of
    >>>>>> CH2
    >>>>>> (for which the antenna is designed) should be equal to the reception
    >>>>>> of
    >>>>>> CH12
    >>>>>> (for which the antenna is probably not designed.)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> You need a new antenna. An antenna installer can do a survey for you.
    >>>>>> They
    >>>>>> can measure the strength of the ABC digital signal at the antenna
    >>>>>> cable
    >>>>>> plug
    >>>>>> and tell you if it is strong enough. They can also put a temporary
    >>>>>> antenna
    >>>>>> on the roof and let you see the improvement for yourself.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> # Alright, point taken.
    >>>>>> Can you recommend a TV antenna expert in the Camberwell, Vic,
    >>>>>> area,
    >>>>>> who
    >>>>>> will give an assessment, at reasonable price?
    >>>>>> As I said earlier, I can live without ABC, if necessary, but it
    >>>>>> does
    >>>>>> seem
    >>>>>> odd that it is the one channel or bandwidth which is unavailable,
    >>>>>> while
    >>>>>> all
    >>>>>> other DTV channels give excellent results.
    >>>>>> Currently, I can receive ABC on analog, on this new TV set,
    >>>>>> but,
    >>>>>> come
    >>>>>> Dec
    >>>>>> 2013, it may be goodbye to anything ABC.
    >>>>>> (Incidentally, Dick Smith Electronics markets a plug-in TV
    >>>>>> Amplifier,
    >>>>>> for
    >>>>>> about $30 - any use?)
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> Just go check your local paper , spend the $120 odd and loosen the
    >>>>> grip
    >>>>> on
    >>>>> your purse
    >>>>> sop
    >>>>>
    >>>>> --
    >>>>> X-No-Archive: Yes
    >>>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> # Well, I relented and got in the TV specialist.
    >>>> Yes, a new antenna fixed the problem.
    >>>> So, that's my daughter set up with digital, at her home.
    >>>> Now for me; firstly I still use the old ribbon lead from the wall
    >>>> plug,
    >>>> not co-axial cable...
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>> Never relenting tight arse eh Don
    >>>

    >>
    >> # If you think I'm going to spend $200 (as advised) to get an expert in
    >> to
    >> change the wall socket, which I could probably do with a screwdriver (and
    >> a
    >> bit of knowledge), then forget it.
    >> OK, which of the two prongs of a ribbon lead is audio, and which is
    >> video?
    >> Ever noticed that people are always free with advice when it comes to
    >> spending another person's money? "Financial advisers" only do what you
    >> could do yourself - and charge a fee.
    >> "You are a tight arse; I am merely prudent."
    >>
    >>
    >>

    > I suspect even a draconian old fart like you might manage a gpo change ,
    > under $10.00 from lousy and hungrys and a couple of bucks for a new cable
    > and yes you are a tightarse :P
    > if you were closer I would hand you one but not going to spend postage on
    > you today :P
    >
    > --


    # Well, my daughter doesn't think so.
    After all, I paid for her new TV set (and DVD player), plus the aerial,
    and this after buying her, and her daughter, a new vacuum cleaner each.
    My Visa card balance has soared - and me being a pensioner.
    Incidentally, the new DVD player doesn't have aerial access any more. Is
    this to avoid piracy?



  4. #24
    Ext User(atec77) Guest

    Re: Drongo goes Digital

    On 8/02/2012 4:30 AM, DonH wrote:
    > "atec77"<atec77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:jgpuee$tv1$1@dont-email.me...
    >> On 7/02/2012 2:41 AM, DonH wrote:
    >>> "atec77"<atec77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:jgoi1o$o7l$2@dont-email.me...
    >>>> On 6/02/2012 4:36 AM, DonH wrote:
    >>>>> "atec77"<atec77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:jg52lq$66t$2@dont-email.me...
    >>>>>> On 30/01/2012 1:35 AM, DonH wrote:
    >>>>>>> "Brad"<google2@vk2qq.com> wrote in message
    >>>>>>> news:5711129.405.1327802783494.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@prlv30...
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> On Sunday, January 29, 2012 4:15:50 AM UTC+11, DonH wrote:
    >>>>>>>> I may decide to do without DTV-ABC, as all other reception is
    >>>>>>>> fine.
    >>>>>>>> This response, however, was received by email, earlier (from a
    >>>>>>>> professional):
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> "Hi Don thanks for the enquiry, if your TV is receiving ABC on
    >>>>>>>> analogue
    >>>>>>>> and
    >>>>>>>> it is somewhat clear then there is no reason why digital shouldn't
    >>>>>>>> be
    >>>>>>>> getting it. It sounds like its an issue with the TV's Digital Tuner.
    >>>>>>>> Maybe
    >>>>>>>> call ******** # customer support to see if they have an answer for
    >>>>>>>> you."
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> # (Brand name suppressed by me, here.)
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> That's just plain wrong. You cannot blindly state that the reception
    >>>>>>> of
    >>>>>>> CH2
    >>>>>>> (for which the antenna is designed) should be equal to the reception
    >>>>>>> of
    >>>>>>> CH12
    >>>>>>> (for which the antenna is probably not designed.)
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> You need a new antenna. An antenna installer can do a survey for you.
    >>>>>>> They
    >>>>>>> can measure the strength of the ABC digital signal at the antenna
    >>>>>>> cable
    >>>>>>> plug
    >>>>>>> and tell you if it is strong enough. They can also put a temporary
    >>>>>>> antenna
    >>>>>>> on the roof and let you see the improvement for yourself.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> # Alright, point taken.
    >>>>>>> Can you recommend a TV antenna expert in the Camberwell, Vic,
    >>>>>>> area,
    >>>>>>> who
    >>>>>>> will give an assessment, at reasonable price?
    >>>>>>> As I said earlier, I can live without ABC, if necessary, but it
    >>>>>>> does
    >>>>>>> seem
    >>>>>>> odd that it is the one channel or bandwidth which is unavailable,



    >
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>

    >> I suspect even a draconian old fart like you might manage a gpo change ,
    >> under $10.00 from lousy and hungrys and a couple of bucks for a new cable
    >> and yes you are a tightarse :P
    >> if you were closer I would hand you one but not going to spend postage on
    >> you today :P
    >>
    >> --

    >
    > # Well, my daughter doesn't think so.
    > After all, I paid for her new TV set (and DVD player), plus the aerial,
    > and this after buying her, and her daughter, a new vacuum cleaner each.
    > My Visa card balance has soared - and me being a pensioner.
    > Incidentally, the new DVD player doesn't have aerial access any more. Is
    > this to avoid piracy?



    I don't know at this point , will be making a review and purchase of
    the dvd when my new LG70" 4k arrives in a few weeks , can' see the
    point of such measures when copy work is simply on a pc
    >
    >



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  5. #25
    Ext User(Brad) Guest

    Re: Drongo goes Digital

    Nope. They used to have the antenna connections and RF modulator because TV's did not have AV inputs. Nowadays tv's have a dozen inputs of various types.

  6. #26
    Ext User(Marts) Guest

    Re: Drongo goes Digital

    Brad wrote...

    > Need a better antenna and new cable.


    I installed a new antenna. It's RG6 from the antenna to the splitter, a run of
    about 3m. From the splitter it goes off to a TV in the back of the house, a run
    of about 20m, perhaps. That cable is the original coax. The second run of about
    8m goes to the lounge. It's RG6.

    The back of the house has a Mystar HD PVR and a Panasonic Blu-ray HDD recorder.
    While the Mystar, which has an RF input from the FTA antenna seems to have
    little problems with reception, the Panasonic often says "no signal" on One, Ten
    and Eleven. Sometimes it happens on Prime/7Mate, etc.

    I have to run a new length of RG6 to this point and to use proper plugs and
    sockets. Hopefully that will fix the reception problem.

    The front point seems to work fine, but it doesn't have a blu-ray recorder.


  7. #27
    Ext User(Brad) Guest

    Re: Drongo goes Digital

    On Saturday, March 3, 2012 3:57:42 PM UTC+11, Marts wrote:
    > Brad wrote...
    >
    > > Need a better antenna and new cable.

    >
    > I installed a new antenna. It's RG6 from the antenna to the splitter, a run of
    > about 3m. From the splitter it goes off to a TV in the back of the house, a run
    > of about 20m, perhaps. That cable is the original coax. The second run of about
    > 8m goes to the lounge. It's RG6.
    >
    > The back of the house has a Mystar HD PVR and a Panasonic Blu-ray HDD recorder.
    > While the Mystar, which has an RF input from the FTA antenna seems to have
    > little problems with reception, the Panasonic often says "no signal" on One, Ten
    > and Eleven. Sometimes it happens on Prime/7Mate, etc.
    >
    > I have to run a new length of RG6 to this point and to use proper plugs and
    > sockets. Hopefully that will fix the reception problem.
    >
    > The front point seems to work fine, but it doesn't have a blu-ray recorder.


    Move the gear to the front room and test it again. if it works the only variable is the long cable. 20m is quite long. I couldn't get away with it here in a deep fringe area.

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