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  1. #1
    Ext User(B J Foster) Guest

    "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"

    "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to carry
    iron ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678

    Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants. Shut the
    gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the way
    forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.

  2. #2
    Ext User(HD) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"


    "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    news:jhtclt$c0a$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    > "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to carry iron
    > ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    > http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    >
    > Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants.


    Please cite.


    Shut the
    > gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the way
    > forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.


    Yep, with no one having money to buy anything.




  3. #3
    Ext User(B J Foster) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"

    On 21/02/2012 12:13 AM, HD wrote:
    >
    > "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:jhtclt$c0a$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >> "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to carry
    >> iron ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    >> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    >>
    >>
    >> Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants.

    >
    > Please cite.
    >


    Do your own research, idiot.

    >
    > Shut the
    >> gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the way
    >> forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.

    >
    > Yep, with no one having money to buy anything.
    >


    China buys the iron ore, idiot.


  4. #4
    Ext User(HD) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"


    "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    news:jhthmi$7i4$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    > On 21/02/2012 12:13 AM, HD wrote:
    >>
    >> "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:jhtclt$c0a$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >>> "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to carry
    >>> iron ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    >>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants.

    >>
    >> Please cite.
    >>

    >
    > Do your own research, idiot.


    1) The unions did not want Migrants.
    2) The miners did not want migrants.
    3) The multi national mining companies wanted migrants who are
    cheaper than training people.

    >
    >>
    >> Shut the
    >>> gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the way
    >>> forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.

    >>
    >> Yep, with no one having money to buy anything.
    >>

    >
    > China buys the iron ore, idiot.


    So the Chinese come here to buy stuff in our retail stores?
    The drivers who got the sack haven't got the money.












  5. #5
    Ext User(DonH) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"

    "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    news:jhtclt$c0a$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    > "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to carry iron
    > ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    > http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    >
    > Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants. Shut the
    > gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the way
    > forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.


    # Yeah, dear old capitalism - it's so clever, it's stupid.
    Of course, workers are a cost, not an asset; and the ideal factory is
    full automated.
    Trouble is, production, and over-production, still needs "consumers" at
    the other end, and the more people you sack, the fewer consumers you have.
    Driverless trains are all very well, provided trains stay on tracks and
    no accidents, breakdowns, or other emergencies, occur.
    But, under Murphy's Law, if something can go wrong, it will, and a
    driverless train will probably continue to function, even if the engine is
    on its back with wheels in the air.
    Ah, well, back home in suburbia, we have staffless self-check-outs -
    well, almost, as there are still some staff to instruct customers in their
    new chores, before disappearing altogether.
    ANZ Bank wants Australian staff to train their foreign replacements...
    (Incidentally, Bank of Melbourne is Westpac, in disguise.)



  6. #6
    Ext User(B J Foster) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"

    On 21/02/2012 12:49 AM, HD wrote:
    >
    > "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:jhthmi$7i4$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >> On 21/02/2012 12:13 AM, HD wrote:
    >>>
    >>> "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> news:jhtclt$c0a$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >>>> "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to carry
    >>>> iron ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    >>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants.
    >>>
    >>> Please cite.
    >>>

    >>
    >> Do your own research, idiot.

    >
    > 1) The unions did not want Migrants.
    > 2) The miners did not want migrants.
    > 3) The multi national mining companies wanted migrants who are
    > cheaper than training people.


    2+3 = make up your mind!

    >
    >>
    >>>
    >>> Shut the
    >>>> gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the way
    >>>> forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.
    >>>
    >>> Yep, with no one having money to buy anything.
    >>>

    >>
    >> China buys the iron ore, idiot.

    >
    > So the Chinese come here to buy stuff in our retail stores?


    I give up.

    > The drivers who got the sack haven't got the money.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >



  7. #7
    Ext User(B J Foster) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"

    On 21/02/2012 5:07 AM, DonH wrote:
    > "B J Foster"<bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:jhtclt$c0a$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >> "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to carry iron
    >> ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    >> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    >>
    >> Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants. Shut the
    >> gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the way
    >> forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.

    >
    > # Yeah, dear old capitalism - it's so clever, it's stupid.
    > Of course, workers are a cost, not an asset; and the ideal factory is
    > full automated.


    Yes, exactly.

    > Trouble is, production, and over-production, still needs "consumers" at
    > the other end, and the more people you sack, the fewer consumers you have.


    98% of the iron ore is exported. The consumers are in China and her markets.

    > Driverless trains are all very well, provided trains stay on tracks and
    > no accidents, breakdowns, or other emergencies, occur.
    > But, under Murphy's Law, if something can go wrong, it will, and a
    > driverless train will probably continue to function, even if the engine is
    > on its back with wheels in the air.
    > Ah, well, back home in suburbia, we have staffless self-check-outs -
    > well, almost, as there are still some staff to instruct customers in their
    > new chores, before disappearing altogether.
    > ANZ Bank wants Australian staff to train their foreign replacements...
    > (Incidentally, Bank of Melbourne is Westpac, in disguise.)
    >
    >



  8. #8
    Ext User(dechucka) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"


    "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    news:jhtclt$c0a$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    > "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to carry iron
    > ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    > http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    >
    > Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants. Shut the
    > gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the way
    > forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.


    Of course if the trains can be driven from Perth they can be driven from
    China. More jobs gone.


  9. #9
    Ext User(HD) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"


    "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    news:jhuc7m$5cq$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    > On 21/02/2012 5:07 AM, DonH wrote:
    >> "B J Foster"<bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:jhtclt$c0a$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >>> "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to carry
    >>> iron
    >>> ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    >>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    >>>
    >>> Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants. Shut the
    >>> gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the way
    >>> forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.

    >>
    >> # Yeah, dear old capitalism - it's so clever, it's stupid.
    >> Of course, workers are a cost, not an asset; and the ideal factory
    >> is
    >> full automated.

    >
    > Yes, exactly.
    >
    >> Trouble is, production, and over-production, still needs "consumers"
    >> at
    >> the other end, and the more people you sack, the fewer consumers you
    >> have.

    >
    > 98% of the iron ore is exported. The consumers are in China and her
    > markets.
    >

    Are you so stupid not to realise that everything made and manufactured needs
    an end consumer?
    China imports our ore.
    They need a market for their steel.
    What is the steel used for?
    To make things like cars?
    Who buys the cars?
    Train drivers without a job have no money.
    If you replace workers with automation or if you don't pay decent wages
    no one has money to go shopping.

    By the way, the Liberals did increase Immigration as soon as they came to
    office the last time
    because Philip Ruddock made a study and found that migrants are consumers
    who spent money which is good for the economy.








  10. #10
    Ext User(Pelican) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"



    "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    news:gvC0r.3437$%E2.2581@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigp ond.com...
    >
    > "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    > news:jhuc7m$5cq$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >> On 21/02/2012 5:07 AM, DonH wrote:
    >>> "B J Foster"<bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> news:jhtclt$c0a$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >>>> "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to carry
    >>>> iron
    >>>> ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    >>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    >>>>
    >>>> Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants. Shut the
    >>>> gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the way
    >>>> forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.
    >>>
    >>> # Yeah, dear old capitalism - it's so clever, it's stupid.
    >>> Of course, workers are a cost, not an asset; and the ideal factory
    >>> is
    >>> full automated.

    >>
    >> Yes, exactly.
    >>
    >>> Trouble is, production, and over-production, still needs
    >>> "consumers" at
    >>> the other end, and the more people you sack, the fewer consumers you
    >>> have.

    >>
    >> 98% of the iron ore is exported. The consumers are in China and her
    >> markets.
    >>

    > Are you so stupid not to realise that everything made and manufactured
    > needs an end consumer?
    > China imports our ore.
    > They need a market for their steel.


    It's called the world, of course.

    > What is the steel used for?
    > To make things like cars?
    > Who buys the cars?


    Car buyers, around the world, of course.

    > Train drivers without a job have no money.


    They retrain for another job.

    > If you replace workers with automation or if you don't pay decent wages
    > no one has money to go shopping.


    As between stupidity and a lie, stupidity usually wins.

    > By the way, the Liberals did increase Immigration as soon as they came to
    > office the last time
    > because Philip Ruddock made a study and found that migrants are consumers
    > who spent money which is good for the economy.


    Simply untrue.


  11. #11
    Ext User(HD) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"


    "Pelican" <water-birds@sea.somewhere.org.ir> wrote in message
    news:jhusrn$4ps$1@dont-email.me...
    >
    >
    > "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    > news:gvC0r.3437$%E2.2581@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigp ond.com...
    >>
    >> "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    >> news:jhuc7m$5cq$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >>> On 21/02/2012 5:07 AM, DonH wrote:
    >>>> "B J Foster"<bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>> news:jhtclt$c0a$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >>>>> "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to carry
    >>>>> iron
    >>>>> ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    >>>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants. Shut
    >>>>> the
    >>>>> gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the way
    >>>>> forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.
    >>>>
    >>>> # Yeah, dear old capitalism - it's so clever, it's stupid.
    >>>> Of course, workers are a cost, not an asset; and the ideal factory
    >>>> is
    >>>> full automated.
    >>>
    >>> Yes, exactly.
    >>>
    >>>> Trouble is, production, and over-production, still needs
    >>>> "consumers" at
    >>>> the other end, and the more people you sack, the fewer consumers you
    >>>> have.
    >>>
    >>> 98% of the iron ore is exported. The consumers are in China and her
    >>> markets.
    >>>

    >> Are you so stupid not to realise that everything made and manufactured
    >> needs an end consumer?
    >> China imports our ore.
    >> They need a market for their steel.

    >
    > It's called the world, of course.
    >
    >> What is the steel used for?
    >> To make things like cars?
    >> Who buys the cars?

    >
    > Car buyers, around the world, of course.
    >
    >> Train drivers without a job have no money.

    >
    > They retrain for another job.


    Sorry, other jobs have gone.
    Automation has taken over.

    >
    >> If you replace workers with automation or if you don't pay decent wages
    >> no one has money to go shopping.

    >
    > As between stupidity and a lie, stupidity usually wins.


    Yes, the stupid ones think that multinationals who make the profit go to
    Coles and spent it.


    >
    >> By the way, the Liberals did increase Immigration as soon as they came to
    >> office the last time
    >> because Philip Ruddock made a study and found that migrants are consumers
    >> who spent money which is good for the economy.

    >
    > Simply untrue.


    Do your research before you call someone a liar.


  12. #12
    Ext User(Pelican) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"



    "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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    >
    > "Pelican" <water-birds@sea.somewhere.org.ir> wrote in message
    > news:jhusrn$4ps$1@dont-email.me...
    >>
    >>
    >> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    >> news:gvC0r.3437$%E2.2581@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigp ond.com...
    >>>
    >>> "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    >>> news:jhuc7m$5cq$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >>>> On 21/02/2012 5:07 AM, DonH wrote:
    >>>>> "B J Foster"<bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:jhtclt$c0a$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>> "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to carry
    >>>>>> iron
    >>>>>> ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    >>>>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants. Shut
    >>>>>> the
    >>>>>> gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the
    >>>>>> way
    >>>>>> forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> # Yeah, dear old capitalism - it's so clever, it's stupid.
    >>>>> Of course, workers are a cost, not an asset; and the ideal
    >>>>> factory is
    >>>>> full automated.
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes, exactly.
    >>>>
    >>>>> Trouble is, production, and over-production, still needs
    >>>>> "consumers" at
    >>>>> the other end, and the more people you sack, the fewer consumers you
    >>>>> have.
    >>>>
    >>>> 98% of the iron ore is exported. The consumers are in China and her
    >>>> markets.
    >>>>
    >>> Are you so stupid not to realise that everything made and manufactured
    >>> needs an end consumer?
    >>> China imports our ore.
    >>> They need a market for their steel.

    >>
    >> It's called the world, of course.
    >>
    >>> What is the steel used for?
    >>> To make things like cars?
    >>> Who buys the cars?

    >>
    >> Car buyers, around the world, of course.
    >>
    >>> Train drivers without a job have no money.

    >>
    >> They retrain for another job.

    >
    > Sorry, other jobs have gone.


    Try harder. There are plenty of jobs around.

    > Automation has taken over.


    Dreaming!

    >>> If you replace workers with automation or if you don't pay decent wages
    >>> no one has money to go shopping.

    >>
    >> As between stupidity and a lie, stupidity usually wins.

    >
    > Yes, the stupid ones think that multinationals who make the profit go to
    > Coles and spent it.


    Do you really think that?

    >>> By the way, the Liberals did increase Immigration as soon as they came
    >>> to office the last time
    >>> because Philip Ruddock made a study and found that migrants are
    >>> consumers who spent money which is good for the economy.

    >>
    >> Simply untrue.

    >
    > Do your research before you call someone a liar.


    Do your research before you peddle lies, liar.


  13. #13
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"

    On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:43:18 +1100, "Pelican"
    <water-birds@sea.somewhere.org.ir> wrote:
    Added aus.rail
    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    or < http://tinyurl.com/876yg6g >
    >
    >> By the way, the Liberals did increase Immigration as soon as they came to
    >> office the last time
    >> because Philip Ruddock made a study and found that migrants are consumers
    >> who spent money which is good for the economy.

    >
    >Simply untrue.


    Trouble is it's dole money with generations of inbred dole bludgers to
    come.

    The automatic train though creates jobs, or you think a train driver
    won't be sitting in front of a air conditioned control panel in a
    relaxing chair.
    < http://tinyurl.com/7x5cknp >

    As it is shift work a minimum of 4 maybe five train driver technicians
    per shift is needed because of coming litigation recognizing shift
    work fatigue as a killer (no more than two hour stints are legal). Of
    course automation can mean the train can be run from a third world
    operator where litigation won't happen until a Bhopal incident has
    retrospective legislation enacted.

    This could even be ten a shift depending on work load, then there will
    be breakdowns and maintainers needed to be available to react. A
    control room error has zero tolerance the train would be stopped till
    inspected
    < http://tinyurl.com/3yrz9uq >
    --
    Petzl
    Chattanooga choo choo
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1d...-choo-choo_fun

  14. #14
    Ext User(terryc) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"

    Petzl wrote:

    Shouldn't cross post trash to oter news groups thank you.

  15. #15
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"

    On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:54:43 +1100, terryc
    <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote:

    re added aus.rail
    >Petzl wrote:
    >
    >Shouldn't cross post trash to oter news groups thank you.


    Why not?
    What's trash about it?
    It is concerning Australian Trains
    I did inform of the aus.rail added post
    Secondly it is within the rule of no more four X-posts
    Any more is considered flooding
    --
    Petzl
    Chattanooga choo choo
    http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1d...-choo-choo_fun

  16. #16
    Ext User(HD) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"


    "Pelican" <water-birds@sea.somewhere.org.ir> wrote in message
    news:jhv1ds$nsu$1@dont-email.me...
    >
    >
    > "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    > news:NcD0r.3255$v14.3158@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigp ond.com...
    >>
    >> "Pelican" <water-birds@sea.somewhere.org.ir> wrote in message
    >> news:jhusrn$4ps$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:gvC0r.3437$%E2.2581@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigp ond.com...
    >>>>
    >>>> "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>> news:jhuc7m$5cq$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >>>>> On 21/02/2012 5:07 AM, DonH wrote:
    >>>>>> "B J Foster"<bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:jhtclt$c0a$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>> "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to
    >>>>>>> carry iron
    >>>>>>> ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    >>>>>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants. Shut
    >>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>> gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the
    >>>>>>> way
    >>>>>>> forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> # Yeah, dear old capitalism - it's so clever, it's stupid.
    >>>>>> Of course, workers are a cost, not an asset; and the ideal
    >>>>>> factory is
    >>>>>> full automated.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Yes, exactly.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Trouble is, production, and over-production, still needs
    >>>>>> "consumers" at
    >>>>>> the other end, and the more people you sack, the fewer consumers you
    >>>>>> have.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> 98% of the iron ore is exported. The consumers are in China and her
    >>>>> markets.
    >>>>>
    >>>> Are you so stupid not to realise that everything made and manufactured
    >>>> needs an end consumer?
    >>>> China imports our ore.
    >>>> They need a market for their steel.
    >>>
    >>> It's called the world, of course.
    >>>
    >>>> What is the steel used for?
    >>>> To make things like cars?
    >>>> Who buys the cars?
    >>>
    >>> Car buyers, around the world, of course.
    >>>
    >>>> Train drivers without a job have no money.
    >>>
    >>> They retrain for another job.

    >>
    >> Sorry, other jobs have gone.

    >
    > Try harder. There are plenty of jobs around.
    >
    >> Automation has taken over.

    >
    > Dreaming!



    You must be very young--and stupid--when you can't remember how things were
    made by hand that are now automated. You would not know about a thousand
    girls sitting on assembling lines putting components into printed circuit.
    to build TVs. You would not know how cars got assembled without robotics.



    >
    >>>> If you replace workers with automation or if you don't pay decent wages
    >>>> no one has money to go shopping.
    >>>
    >>> As between stupidity and a lie, stupidity usually wins.

    >>
    >> Yes, the stupid ones think that multinationals who make the profit go to
    >> Coles and spent it.

    >
    > Do you really think that?
    >
    >>>> By the way, the Liberals did increase Immigration as soon as they came
    >>>> to office the last time
    >>>> because Philip Ruddock made a study and found that migrants are
    >>>> consumers who spent money which is good for the economy.
    >>>
    >>> Simply untrue.

    >>
    >> Do your research before you call someone a liar.

    >
    > Do your research before you peddle lies, liar.



    **** off you stupid twit.
    At the time I was involved in Immigration and had made many submissions to
    Ruddock.




  17. #17
    Ext User(terryc) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"

    Petzl wrote:
    > On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:54:43 +1100, terryc
    > <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote:
    >
    > re added aus.rail
    >> Petzl wrote:
    >>
    >> Shouldn't cross post trash to oter news groups thank you.

    >
    > Why not?
    > What's trash about it?

    It is cross posted by someone whe never comes here to discuss trains.

    > It is concerning Australian Trains

    And the people here are very capabl of having an intelligent
    conversation about it without cross posting idiots spamming the group.


    > I did inform of the aus.rail added post
    > Secondly it is within the rule of no more four X-posts
    > Any more is considered flooding


    Sigh, more moronic bullshit to excuse your cross posting.


  18. #18
    Ext User(Pelican) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"



    "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    news:_bG0r.3263$v14.522@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpo nd.com...
    >
    > "Pelican" <water-birds@sea.somewhere.org.ir> wrote in message
    > news:jhv1ds$nsu$1@dont-email.me...
    >>
    >>
    >> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    >> news:NcD0r.3255$v14.3158@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigp ond.com...
    >>>
    >>> "Pelican" <water-birds@sea.somewhere.org.ir> wrote in message
    >>> news:jhusrn$4ps$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    >>>> news:gvC0r.3437$%E2.2581@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigp ond.com...
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:jhuc7m$5cq$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>> On 21/02/2012 5:07 AM, DonH wrote:
    >>>>>>> "B J Foster"<bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>>>>> news:jhtclt$c0a$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>>> "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to
    >>>>>>>> carry iron
    >>>>>>>> ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    >>>>>>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants. Shut
    >>>>>>>> the
    >>>>>>>> gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the
    >>>>>>>> way
    >>>>>>>> forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> # Yeah, dear old capitalism - it's so clever, it's stupid.
    >>>>>>> Of course, workers are a cost, not an asset; and the ideal
    >>>>>>> factory is
    >>>>>>> full automated.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Yes, exactly.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Trouble is, production, and over-production, still needs
    >>>>>>> "consumers" at
    >>>>>>> the other end, and the more people you sack, the fewer consumers you
    >>>>>>> have.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> 98% of the iron ore is exported. The consumers are in China and her
    >>>>>> markets.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>> Are you so stupid not to realise that everything made and manufactured
    >>>>> needs an end consumer?
    >>>>> China imports our ore.
    >>>>> They need a market for their steel.
    >>>>
    >>>> It's called the world, of course.
    >>>>
    >>>>> What is the steel used for?
    >>>>> To make things like cars?
    >>>>> Who buys the cars?
    >>>>
    >>>> Car buyers, around the world, of course.
    >>>>
    >>>>> Train drivers without a job have no money.
    >>>>
    >>>> They retrain for another job.
    >>>
    >>> Sorry, other jobs have gone.

    >>
    >> Try harder. There are plenty of jobs around.
    >>
    >>> Automation has taken over.

    >>
    >> Dreaming!

    >
    >
    > You must be very young--and stupid--when you can't remember how things
    > were made by hand that are now automated. You would not know about a
    > thousand girls sitting on assembling lines putting components into printed
    > circuit. to build TVs. You would not know how cars got assembled without
    > robotics.



    Manufacturing practice changes. It's been that way for a few thousand
    years.


    >>>>> If you replace workers with automation or if you don't pay decent
    >>>>> wages
    >>>>> no one has money to go shopping.
    >>>>
    >>>> As between stupidity and a lie, stupidity usually wins.
    >>>
    >>> Yes, the stupid ones think that multinationals who make the profit go to
    >>> Coles and spent it.

    >>
    >> Do you really think that?
    >>
    >>>>> By the way, the Liberals did increase Immigration as soon as they came
    >>>>> to office the last time
    >>>>> because Philip Ruddock made a study and found that migrants are
    >>>>> consumers who spent money which is good for the economy.
    >>>>
    >>>> Simply untrue.
    >>>
    >>> Do your research before you call someone a liar.

    >>
    >> Do your research before you peddle lies, liar.

    >
    >
    > **** off you stupid twit.
    > At the time I was involved in Immigration and had made many submissions to
    > Ruddock.


    So? I don't care how utterly ineffectual you were. Nothing has changed.


  19. #19
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"

    On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 17:40:51 +1100, terryc
    <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote:
    Re-added aus.rail
    >Petzl wrote:
    >> On Tue, 21 Feb 2012 15:54:43 +1100, terryc
    >> <newsninespam-spam@woa.com.au> wrote:
    >>
    >> re added aus.rail
    >>> Petzl wrote:
    >>>
    >>> Shouldn't cross post trash to oter news groups thank you.

    >>
    >> Why not?
    >> What's trash about it?

    >It is cross posted by someone whe never comes here to discuss trains.
    >

    Thats not true proof below
    < http://goo.gl/ZTQNz >

    >> It is concerning Australian Trains

    >And the people here are very capabl of having an intelligent
    >conversation about it without cross posting idiots spamming the group.
    >
    >> I did inform of the aus.rail added post
    >> Secondly it is within the rule of no more four X-posts
    >> Any more is considered flooding

    >
    >Sigh, more moronic bullshit to excuse your cross posting.


    I'm telling the truth you just can't handle it
    Try looking me up first in aus.rail to see how active I've been in the
    group
    Heres what a Google search tells you on how long I've been posting to
    aus.rail (since the group near began) I'm easy to plonk if you wish
    < http://goo.gl/ZTQNz >
    I do not spam and well loved by the aus.rail group
    The group has been silent for a while just trying to show some
    interest
    Now try to bully someone else

  20. #20
    Ext User(HD) Guest

    Re: "Shift to driverless trains prompts job concerns"


    "Pelican" <water-birds@sea.somewhere.org.ir> wrote in message
    news:jhvruc$7dc$1@dont-email.me...
    >
    >
    > "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    > news:_bG0r.3263$v14.522@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigpo nd.com...
    >>
    >> "Pelican" <water-birds@sea.somewhere.org.ir> wrote in message
    >> news:jhv1ds$nsu$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>
    >>>
    >>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:NcD0r.3255$v14.3158@viwinnwfe02.internal.bigp ond.com...
    >>>>
    >>>> "Pelican" <water-birds@sea.somewhere.org.ir> wrote in message
    >>>> news:jhusrn$4ps$1@dont-email.me...
    >>>>>
    >>>>>
    >>>>> "HD" <herpem@bigpond.com> wrote in message
    >>>>> news:gvC0r.3437$%E2.2581@viwinnwfe01.internal.bigp ond.com...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> "B J Foster" <bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>>>> news:jhuc7m$5cq$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>> On 21/02/2012 5:07 AM, DonH wrote:
    >>>>>>>> "B J Foster"<bjfoster@yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
    >>>>>>>> news:jhtclt$c0a$2@bjf.motzarella.org...
    >>>>>>>>> "Rio Tinto has unveiled plans for a driverless train network to
    >>>>>>>>> carry iron
    >>>>>>>>> ore, sparking concerns about job losses"
    >>>>>>>>> http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-02-2...etwork/3839678
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Only from unionist idiots. The miners wanted 160,000 migrants.
    >>>>>>>>> Shut the
    >>>>>>>>> gate and they have to be innovative or *train* people. This is the
    >>>>>>>>> way
    >>>>>>>>> forward - a slim, trim (aka productive) Australia.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> # Yeah, dear old capitalism - it's so clever, it's stupid.
    >>>>>>>> Of course, workers are a cost, not an asset; and the ideal
    >>>>>>>> factory is
    >>>>>>>> full automated.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Yes, exactly.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Trouble is, production, and over-production, still needs
    >>>>>>>> "consumers" at
    >>>>>>>> the other end, and the more people you sack, the fewer consumers
    >>>>>>>> you have.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> 98% of the iron ore is exported. The consumers are in China and her
    >>>>>>> markets.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>> Are you so stupid not to realise that everything made and
    >>>>>> manufactured needs an end consumer?
    >>>>>> China imports our ore.
    >>>>>> They need a market for their steel.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> It's called the world, of course.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> What is the steel used for?
    >>>>>> To make things like cars?
    >>>>>> Who buys the cars?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Car buyers, around the world, of course.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> Train drivers without a job have no money.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> They retrain for another job.
    >>>>
    >>>> Sorry, other jobs have gone.
    >>>
    >>> Try harder. There are plenty of jobs around.
    >>>
    >>>> Automation has taken over.
    >>>
    >>> Dreaming!

    >>
    >>
    >> You must be very young--and stupid--when you can't remember how things
    >> were made by hand that are now automated. You would not know about a
    >> thousand girls sitting on assembling lines putting components into
    >> printed circuit. to build TVs. You would not know how cars got assembled
    >> without robotics.

    >
    >
    > Manufacturing practice changes. It's been that way for a few thousand
    > years.
    >
    >
    >>>>>> If you replace workers with automation or if you don't pay decent
    >>>>>> wages
    >>>>>> no one has money to go shopping.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> As between stupidity and a lie, stupidity usually wins.
    >>>>
    >>>> Yes, the stupid ones think that multinationals who make the profit go
    >>>> to Coles and spent it.
    >>>
    >>> Do you really think that?
    >>>
    >>>>>> By the way, the Liberals did increase Immigration as soon as they
    >>>>>> came to office the last time
    >>>>>> because Philip Ruddock made a study and found that migrants are
    >>>>>> consumers who spent money which is good for the economy.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Simply untrue.
    >>>>
    >>>> Do your research before you call someone a liar.
    >>>
    >>> Do your research before you peddle lies, liar.

    >>
    >>
    >> **** off you stupid twit.
    >> At the time I was involved in Immigration and had made many submissions
    >> to Ruddock.

    >
    > So? I don't care how utterly ineffectual you were. Nothing has changed.


    No, nothing has changed.
    You still a stupid twit.
    Now be a good child and **** off.




    >



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