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  1. #1
    Ext User(Derek) Guest

    Media players

    What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a TV?

    If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out of date
    within a year?


  2. #2
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Media players

    Derek <derek@nowhere.com> wrote

    > What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a TV?


    There are a variety of viable approaches.

    I prefer to use the PC with an HDMI output on the video card into the TV.

    That way I can use whatever player I like.

    I am quite fussy about some stuff, like having the media player keep
    track of where I have watched up to so I don't have to watch everything
    in full once I start watching it, because I watch a hell of a lot more
    recorded free to air TV than I ever do downloaded movies.

    > If I buy a media player for about $100, won't
    > the codecs etc. go out of date within a year?


    Not usually. And quite a few of them are updateable anyway.


  3. #3
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Media players

    On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:15:27 +0800, "Derek" <derek@nowhere.com> wrote:

    >What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a TV?
    >
    >If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out of date
    >within a year?


    Best buy a Blu-Ray player (about $100) that takes a USB drive, just
    put your downloaded Movie to USB (need to save it in either AVI or
    MP4) and it will play brilliantly (I use a Soniq Blu Ray bought at
    JB-HiFi http://tinyurl.com/6tr365l ) Test it first before buying on
    mine there is no slow play, but does fast up to 32x and will replay
    selected pieces or AVI's
    --
    Petzl

  4. #4
    Ext User(hislop) Guest

    Re: Media players

    On 18/07/2012 7:15 PM, Derek wrote:
    > What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a TV?
    >
    > If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out of
    > date within a year?


    The only standalone media player I would ever get is Popcorn, which I
    think comes from America. As far as I can tell, it is the only one that
    play bluray iso files complete, including all the menus.


  5. #5
    Ext User(hislop) Guest

    Re: Media players

    On 18/07/2012 8:13 PM, Petzl wrote:
    > On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:15:27 +0800, "Derek"<derek@nowhere.com> wrote:
    >
    >> What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a TV?
    >>
    >> If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out of date
    >> within a year?

    >
    > Best buy a Blu-Ray player (about $100) that takes a USB drive, just
    > put your downloaded Movie to USB (need to save it in either AVI or
    > MP4) and it will play brilliantly (I use a Soniq Blu Ray bought at
    > JB-HiFi http://tinyurl.com/6tr365l ) Test it first before buying on
    > mine there is no slow play, but does fast up to 32x and will replay
    > selected pieces or AVI's


    I have the Sony bluray player. It is a little frustrating to use, it
    plays back all media files at 60p even if it is a recording of a TV show
    in PAL. The work around is to force the tv output to 576p.
    Another problem, is that it routinely has a delay of about 1 second at
    the start of every audio file.


  6. #6
    Ext User(JeŖus) Guest

    Re: Media players

    On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:15:27 +0800, "Derek" <derek@nowhere.com> wrote:

    >What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a TV?


    I prefer the flexibility of a PC, and these days you can use a
    mainboard/CPU/GPU combo such as an Asus E35 or 45:
    http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD...E45M1I_DELUXE/

    I have two HTPCs using these boards, both with SSD drives and Seasonic
    fanless PSUs. No DVD ROMs needed (for me).
    No moving parts, no fans = complete silence.

    One is about 18 months old now, and it hasn't missed a beat and plays
    any media I throw at it without struggling.


    >If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out of date
    >within a year?


    Possibly... I can't see how they can cover *every* codec out there.
    Not a problem with a PC. Of course, a suitable PC costs more than
    $100...

  7. #7
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Media players

    On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:13:33 +1000, hislop <takecarebeware@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    >On 18/07/2012 8:13 PM, Petzl wrote:
    >> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:15:27 +0800, "Derek"<derek@nowhere.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a TV?
    >>>
    >>> If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out of date
    >>> within a year?

    >>
    >> Best buy a Blu-Ray player (about $100) that takes a USB drive, just
    >> put your downloaded Movie to USB (need to save it in either AVI or
    >> MP4) and it will play brilliantly (I use a Soniq Blu Ray bought at
    >> JB-HiFi http://tinyurl.com/6tr365l ) Test it first before buying on
    >> mine there is no slow play, but does fast up to 32x and will replay
    >> selected pieces or AVI's

    >
    >I have the Sony bluray player. It is a little frustrating to use, it
    >plays back all media files at 60p even if it is a recording of a TV show
    >in PAL. The work around is to force the tv output to 576p.
    >Another problem, is that it routinely has a delay of about 1 second at
    >the start of every audio file.


    Thats why you should try it before you buy

    The Soniq I bought because my panasonic DVD doesnt have a USB port
    The Soniq blu-Ray B100 works for me and others it seems
    http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1946189

    I think media players are going to be a thing of the past most TV's
    have a USB port (My latest 46" $500 Sanyo LCD from Dick Smith does
    with out speed control though). Much quicker than burning to a dvd

    USB's have to be formated "FAT32" they won't play or accept NFTS
    format AFAIK
    --
    Petzl

  8. #8
    Ext User(Fred Nurk) Guest

    Re: Re: Media players

    On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:13:33 +1000, hislop <takecarebeware@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    >Another problem, is that it routinely has a delay of about 1 second at
    >the start of every audio file.


    Oh no, how can you bear it? Why not just go and make yourself a cup of
    tea in that period?

  9. #9
    Ext User(hislop) Guest

    Re: Media players

    On 18/07/2012 7:15 PM, Derek wrote:
    > What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a TV?
    >
    > If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out of
    > date within a year?

    The Popcorn player does do updates.



  10. #10
    Ext User(hislop) Guest

    Re: Media players

    On 19/07/2012 10:50 AM, Petzl wrote:
    > On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:13:33 +1000, hislop<takecarebeware@gmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> On 18/07/2012 8:13 PM, Petzl wrote:
    >>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:15:27 +0800, "Derek"<derek@nowhere.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a TV?
    >>>>
    >>>> If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out of date
    >>>> within a year?
    >>>
    >>> Best buy a Blu-Ray player (about $100) that takes a USB drive, just
    >>> put your downloaded Movie to USB (need to save it in either AVI or
    >>> MP4) and it will play brilliantly (I use a Soniq Blu Ray bought at
    >>> JB-HiFi http://tinyurl.com/6tr365l ) Test it first before buying on
    >>> mine there is no slow play, but does fast up to 32x and will replay
    >>> selected pieces or AVI's

    >>
    >> I have the Sony bluray player. It is a little frustrating to use, it
    >> plays back all media files at 60p even if it is a recording of a TV show
    >> in PAL. The work around is to force the tv output to 576p.
    >> Another problem, is that it routinely has a delay of about 1 second at
    >> the start of every audio file.

    >
    > Thats why you should try it before you buy
    >
    > The Soniq I bought because my panasonic DVD doesnt have a USB port
    > The Soniq blu-Ray B100 works for me and others it seems
    > http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1946189
    >
    > I think media players are going to be a thing of the past most TV's
    > have a USB port (My latest 46" $500 Sanyo LCD from Dick Smith does
    > with out speed control though). Much quicker than burning to a dvd
    >
    > USB's have to be formated "FAT32" they won't play or accept NFTS
    > format AFAIK


    The Sony does work with NTFS drives. FAT32 isn't practical with HD
    files. The Sony looks great, low res youtube clips are even okay, I've
    only pointed out the faults.

    I have no way of knowing and I don't know that you know if the Soniq
    plays back video correctly at 50p and 60p.

    As to why it has a second delay, I bet they fix that in later releases.

    My TV only plays picture files through its USB port.

  11. #11
    Ext User(PaulM) Guest

    Re: Media players


    "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:tple085adms84kpcvii3s40s4pbs4q344u@4ax.com...
    > On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:13:33 +1000, hislop <takecarebeware@gmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>On 18/07/2012 8:13 PM, Petzl wrote:
    >>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:15:27 +0800, "Derek"<derek@nowhere.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a TV?
    >>>>
    >>>> If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out of
    >>>> date
    >>>> within a year?
    >>>
    >>> Best buy a Blu-Ray player (about $100) that takes a USB drive, just
    >>> put your downloaded Movie to USB (need to save it in either AVI or
    >>> MP4) and it will play brilliantly (I use a Soniq Blu Ray bought at
    >>> JB-HiFi http://tinyurl.com/6tr365l ) Test it first before buying on
    >>> mine there is no slow play, but does fast up to 32x and will replay
    >>> selected pieces or AVI's

    >>
    >>I have the Sony bluray player. It is a little frustrating to use, it
    >>plays back all media files at 60p even if it is a recording of a TV show
    >>in PAL. The work around is to force the tv output to 576p.
    >>Another problem, is that it routinely has a delay of about 1 second at
    >>the start of every audio file.

    >
    > Thats why you should try it before you buy
    >
    > The Soniq I bought because my panasonic DVD doesnt have a USB port
    > The Soniq blu-Ray B100 works for me and others it seems
    > http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1946189
    >
    > I think media players are going to be a thing of the past most TV's
    > have a USB port (My latest 46" $500 Sanyo LCD from Dick Smith does
    > with out speed control though). Much quicker than burning to a dvd
    >


    TVs are limited as to what file formats they can play. Converting between
    formats is a very time consuming process which often produces bad results.



  12. #12
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Media players



    "PaulM" <Merrick_Paul@agogo.com> wrote in message
    news:ju7ud7$cul$1@speranza.aioe.org...
    >
    > "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:tple085adms84kpcvii3s40s4pbs4q344u@4ax.com...
    >> On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:13:33 +1000, hislop <takecarebeware@gmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>On 18/07/2012 8:13 PM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:15:27 +0800, "Derek"<derek@nowhere.com> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a TV?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out
    >>>>> of date
    >>>>> within a year?
    >>>>
    >>>> Best buy a Blu-Ray player (about $100) that takes a USB drive, just
    >>>> put your downloaded Movie to USB (need to save it in either AVI or
    >>>> MP4) and it will play brilliantly (I use a Soniq Blu Ray bought at
    >>>> JB-HiFi http://tinyurl.com/6tr365l ) Test it first before buying on
    >>>> mine there is no slow play, but does fast up to 32x and will replay
    >>>> selected pieces or AVI's
    >>>
    >>>I have the Sony bluray player. It is a little frustrating to use, it
    >>>plays back all media files at 60p even if it is a recording of a TV show
    >>>in PAL. The work around is to force the tv output to 576p.
    >>>Another problem, is that it routinely has a delay of about 1 second at
    >>>the start of every audio file.

    >>
    >> Thats why you should try it before you buy
    >>
    >> The Soniq I bought because my panasonic DVD doesnt have a USB port
    >> The Soniq blu-Ray B100 works for me and others it seems
    >> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1946189
    >>
    >> I think media players are going to be a thing of the past most TV's
    >> have a USB port (My latest 46" $500 Sanyo LCD from Dick Smith does
    >> with out speed control though). Much quicker than burning to a dvd


    > TVs are limited as to what file formats they can play.


    The best ones aren't in fact very limited at all.

    Itís the same technology thatís seen in media players after all.

    > Converting between formats is a very time consuming process


    Like hell it is with a system that has enough horsepower.

    > which often produces bad results.


    Wrong again. Hardly ever in fact.


  13. #13
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Media players

    On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:17:47 +1000, hislop <takecarebeware@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    >On 19/07/2012 10:50 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >> On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:13:33 +1000, hislop<takecarebeware@gmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>> On 18/07/2012 8:13 PM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:15:27 +0800, "Derek"<derek@nowhere.com> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a TV?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out of date
    >>>>> within a year?
    >>>>
    >>>> Best buy a Blu-Ray player (about $100) that takes a USB drive, just
    >>>> put your downloaded Movie to USB (need to save it in either AVI or
    >>>> MP4) and it will play brilliantly (I use a Soniq Blu Ray bought at
    >>>> JB-HiFi http://tinyurl.com/6tr365l ) Test it first before buying on
    >>>> mine there is no slow play, but does fast up to 32x and will replay
    >>>> selected pieces or AVI's
    >>>
    >>> I have the Sony bluray player. It is a little frustrating to use, it
    >>> plays back all media files at 60p even if it is a recording of a TV show
    >>> in PAL. The work around is to force the tv output to 576p.
    >>> Another problem, is that it routinely has a delay of about 1 second at
    >>> the start of every audio file.

    >>
    >> Thats why you should try it before you buy
    >>
    >> The Soniq I bought because my panasonic DVD doesnt have a USB port
    >> The Soniq blu-Ray B100 works for me and others it seems
    >> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1946189
    >>
    >> I think media players are going to be a thing of the past most TV's
    >> have a USB port (My latest 46" $500 Sanyo LCD from Dick Smith does
    >> with out speed control though). Much quicker than burning to a dvd
    >>
    >> USB's have to be formated "FAT32" they won't play or accept NFTS
    >> format AFAIK

    >
    >The Sony does work with NTFS drives. FAT32 isn't practical with HD
    >files. The Sony looks great, low res youtube clips are even okay, I've
    >only pointed out the faults.
    >
    >I have no way of knowing and I don't know that you know if the Soniq
    >plays back video correctly at 50p and 60p.
    >
    >As to why it has a second delay, I bet they fix that in later releases.
    >
    >My TV only plays picture files through its USB port.


    Try experimenting with FAT32 on USB and see (don't see why it won't
    handle HD files)
    What format are you using for HD files?
    I though MP4 was the best to use?
    --
    Petzl

  14. #14
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Media players

    Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    > hislop <takecarebeware@gmail.com> wrote
    >> Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>> hislop<takecarebeware@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>> Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>> Derek<derek@nowhere.com> wrote


    >>>>>> What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a
    >>>>>> TV?


    >>>>>> If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out
    >>>>>> of date
    >>>>>> within a year?


    >>>>> Best buy a Blu-Ray player (about $100) that takes a USB drive, just
    >>>>> put your downloaded Movie to USB (need to save it in either AVI or
    >>>>> MP4) and it will play brilliantly (I use a Soniq Blu Ray bought at
    >>>>> JB-HiFi http://tinyurl.com/6tr365l ) Test it first before buying on
    >>>>> mine there is no slow play, but does fast up to 32x and will replay
    >>>>> selected pieces or AVI's


    >>>> I have the Sony bluray player. It is a little frustrating to use, it
    >>>> plays back all media files at 60p even if it is a recording of a TV
    >>>> show
    >>>> in PAL. The work around is to force the tv output to 576p.
    >>>> Another problem, is that it routinely has a delay of about 1 second at
    >>>> the start of every audio file.


    >>> Thats why you should try it before you buy


    >>> The Soniq I bought because my panasonic DVD doesnt have a USB port
    >>> The Soniq blu-Ray B100 works for me and others it seems
    >>> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1946189


    >>> I think media players are going to be a thing of the past most TV's
    >>> have a USB port (My latest 46" $500 Sanyo LCD from Dick Smith does
    >>> with out speed control though). Much quicker than burning to a dvd


    >>> USB's have to be formated "FAT32" they won't play or accept NFTS
    >>> format AFAIK


    >>The Sony does work with NTFS drives. FAT32 isn't practical with HD
    >>files. The Sony looks great, low res youtube clips are even okay, I've
    >>only pointed out the faults.


    >>I have no way of knowing and I don't know that you know if the Soniq
    >>plays back video correctly at 50p and 60p.


    >>As to why it has a second delay, I bet they fix that in later releases.


    >>My TV only plays picture files through its USB port.


    > Try experimenting with FAT32 on USB and see


    > (don't see why it won't handle HD files)


    Because it was only designed to do those ?

    > What format are you using for HD files?
    > I though MP4 was the best to use?




  15. #15
    Ext User(Petzl) Guest

    Re: Media players

    On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:17:09 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    >Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >> hislop <takecarebeware@gmail.com> wrote
    >>> Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>> hislop<takecarebeware@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>> Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>>> Derek<derek@nowhere.com> wrote

    >
    >>>>>>> What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a
    >>>>>>> TV?

    >
    >>>>>>> If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out
    >>>>>>> of date
    >>>>>>> within a year?

    >
    >>>>>> Best buy a Blu-Ray player (about $100) that takes a USB drive, just
    >>>>>> put your downloaded Movie to USB (need to save it in either AVI or
    >>>>>> MP4) and it will play brilliantly (I use a Soniq Blu Ray bought at
    >>>>>> JB-HiFi http://tinyurl.com/6tr365l ) Test it first before buying on
    >>>>>> mine there is no slow play, but does fast up to 32x and will replay
    >>>>>> selected pieces or AVI's

    >
    >>>>> I have the Sony bluray player. It is a little frustrating to use, it
    >>>>> plays back all media files at 60p even if it is a recording of a TV
    >>>>> show
    >>>>> in PAL. The work around is to force the tv output to 576p.
    >>>>> Another problem, is that it routinely has a delay of about 1 second at
    >>>>> the start of every audio file.

    >
    >>>> Thats why you should try it before you buy

    >
    >>>> The Soniq I bought because my panasonic DVD doesnt have a USB port
    >>>> The Soniq blu-Ray B100 works for me and others it seems
    >>>> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1946189

    >
    >>>> I think media players are going to be a thing of the past most TV's
    >>>> have a USB port (My latest 46" $500 Sanyo LCD from Dick Smith does
    >>>> with out speed control though). Much quicker than burning to a dvd

    >
    >>>> USB's have to be formated "FAT32" they won't play or accept NFTS
    >>>> format AFAIK

    >
    >>>The Sony does work with NTFS drives. FAT32 isn't practical with HD
    >>>files. The Sony looks great, low res youtube clips are even okay, I've
    >>>only pointed out the faults.

    >
    >>>I have no way of knowing and I don't know that you know if the Soniq
    >>>plays back video correctly at 50p and 60p.

    >
    >>>As to why it has a second delay, I bet they fix that in later releases.

    >
    >>>My TV only plays picture files through its USB port.

    >
    >> Try experimenting with FAT32 on USB and see

    >
    >> (don't see why it won't handle HD files)

    >
    >Because it was only designed to do those ?
    >

    I convert my download movies as WMV and convert to MP4 or AVI both
    seem adequate and not been bothered to do more

    Summery of what I see with playing movies

    When I buy a USB they so far have all come with FAT32 which works

    Just read "H.264" is supposedly the latest MP4 format (version 10)

    I haven't tried to get 3D on USB and not sure how this would be done?
    The TV and 3D glasses need to synchronize left lens flashes off as
    right lens flashes on then reverses

    Proper HD video would be around 10 gig in size I would guess

    although I see searching some porno's claiming to be HD around 6 Gig

    >> What format are you using for HD files?
    >> I though MP4 was the best to use?

    >

    --
    Petzl

  16. #16
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Media players

    Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote
    >> Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>> hislop <takecarebeware@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>> Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>> hislop<takecarebeware@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>>> Pretzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>>>> Derek<derek@nowhere.com> wrote


    >>>>>>>> What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a
    >>>>>>>> TV?


    >>>>>>>> If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go
    >>>>>>>> out
    >>>>>>>> of date within a year?


    >>>>>>> Best buy a Blu-Ray player (about $100) that takes a USB drive, just
    >>>>>>> put your downloaded Movie to USB (need to save it in either AVI or
    >>>>>>> MP4) and it will play brilliantly (I use a Soniq Blu Ray bought at
    >>>>>>> JB-HiFi http://tinyurl.com/6tr365l ) Test it first before buying on
    >>>>>>> mine there is no slow play, but does fast up to 32x and will replay
    >>>>>>> selected pieces or AVI's


    >>>>>> I have the Sony bluray player. It is a little frustrating to use, it
    >>>>>> plays back all media files at 60p even if it is a recording of a TV
    >>>>>> show in PAL. The work around is to force the tv output to 576p.


    >>>>>> Another problem, is that it routinely has a delay of about 1 second
    >>>>>> at
    >>>>>> the start of every audio file.


    >>>>> Thats why you should try it before you buy


    >>>>> The Soniq I bought because my panasonic DVD doesnt have a USB port
    >>>>> The Soniq blu-Ray B100 works for me and others it seems
    >>>>> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1946189


    >>>>> I think media players are going to be a thing of the past most TV's
    >>>>> have a USB port (My latest 46" $500 Sanyo LCD from Dick Smith does
    >>>>> with out speed control though). Much quicker than burning to a dvd


    >>>>> USB's have to be formated "FAT32" they won't play or accept NFTS
    >>>>> format AFAIK


    >>>> The Sony does work with NTFS drives. FAT32 isn't practical with HD
    >>>> files. The Sony looks great, low res youtube clips are even okay, I've
    >>>> only pointed out the faults.


    >>>> I have no way of knowing and I don't know that you know if the Soniq
    >>>> plays back video correctly at 50p and 60p.


    >>>> As to why it has a second delay, I bet they fix that in later releases.


    >>>> My TV only plays picture files through its USB port.


    >>> Try experimenting with FAT32 on USB and see


    >>> (don't see why it won't handle HD files)


    >> Because it was only designed to do those ?


    > I convert my download movies as WMV and convert to MP4 or AVI


    I just play them in the format they are in except when
    someone has requested I download something for them.
    Then I usually convert it to DVD format, because you can
    be sure they can play that if they say they have a DVD player.

    > both seem adequate and not been bothered to do more


    > Summery of what I see with playing movies


    > When I buy a USB they so far have all come with FAT32 which works


    But cant handle files that are bigger than 2GB.

    > Just read "H.264" is supposedly the latest MP4 format (version 10)


    > I haven't tried to get 3D on USB and not sure how this would be done?


    I don't bother with that shit. In fact don't bother with movies either.

    > The TV and 3D glasses need to synchronize left lens
    > flashes off as right lens flashes on then reverses


    > Proper HD video would be around 10 gig in size I would guess


    Depends on how long it is.

    > although I see searching some porno's claiming to be HD around 6 Gig


    >>> What format are you using for HD files?
    >>> I though MP4 was the best to use?





  17. #17
    Ext User(hislop) Guest

    Re: Media players

    On 19/07/2012 2:58 PM, Petzl wrote:
    > On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 12:17:47 +1000, hislop<takecarebeware@gmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >> On 19/07/2012 10:50 AM, Petzl wrote:
    >>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:13:33 +1000, hislop<takecarebeware@gmail.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On 18/07/2012 8:13 PM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:15:27 +0800, "Derek"<derek@nowhere.com> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a TV?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out of date
    >>>>>> within a year?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Best buy a Blu-Ray player (about $100) that takes a USB drive, just
    >>>>> put your downloaded Movie to USB (need to save it in either AVI or
    >>>>> MP4) and it will play brilliantly (I use a Soniq Blu Ray bought at
    >>>>> JB-HiFi http://tinyurl.com/6tr365l ) Test it first before buying on
    >>>>> mine there is no slow play, but does fast up to 32x and will replay
    >>>>> selected pieces or AVI's
    >>>>
    >>>> I have the Sony bluray player. It is a little frustrating to use, it
    >>>> plays back all media files at 60p even if it is a recording of a TV show
    >>>> in PAL. The work around is to force the tv output to 576p.
    >>>> Another problem, is that it routinely has a delay of about 1 second at
    >>>> the start of every audio file.
    >>>
    >>> Thats why you should try it before you buy
    >>>
    >>> The Soniq I bought because my panasonic DVD doesnt have a USB port
    >>> The Soniq blu-Ray B100 works for me and others it seems
    >>> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1946189
    >>>
    >>> I think media players are going to be a thing of the past most TV's
    >>> have a USB port (My latest 46" $500 Sanyo LCD from Dick Smith does
    >>> with out speed control though). Much quicker than burning to a dvd
    >>>
    >>> USB's have to be formated "FAT32" they won't play or accept NFTS
    >>> format AFAIK

    >>
    >> The Sony does work with NTFS drives. FAT32 isn't practical with HD
    >> files. The Sony looks great, low res youtube clips are even okay, I've
    >> only pointed out the faults.
    >>
    >> I have no way of knowing and I don't know that you know if the Soniq
    >> plays back video correctly at 50p and 60p.
    >>
    >> As to why it has a second delay, I bet they fix that in later releases.
    >>
    >> My TV only plays picture files through its USB port.

    >
    > Try experimenting with FAT32 on USB and see (don't see why it won't
    > handle HD files)


    It's just the way the tv is, it's a couple of years old.
    The TV doesn't work with NTFS.

    > What format are you using for HD files?
    > I though MP4 was the best to use?



    HD files are wide open.
    mpg from TV recordings, mts from bluray files, the Sony bluray player
    just plays them


  18. #18
    Ext User(hislop) Guest

    Re: Media players

    On 19/07/2012 3:41 PM, Petzl wrote:
    > On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 15:17:09 +1000, "Rod Speed"
    > <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Pretzl<petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>> hislop<takecarebeware@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>> Pretzl<petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>> hislop<takecarebeware@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>>> Pretzl<petzlx@gmail.com> wrote
    >>>>>>> Derek<derek@nowhere.com> wrote

    >>
    >>>>>>>> What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a
    >>>>>>>> TV?

    >>
    >>>>>>>> If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go out
    >>>>>>>> of date
    >>>>>>>> within a year?

    >>
    >>>>>>> Best buy a Blu-Ray player (about $100) that takes a USB drive, just
    >>>>>>> put your downloaded Movie to USB (need to save it in either AVI or
    >>>>>>> MP4) and it will play brilliantly (I use a Soniq Blu Ray bought at
    >>>>>>> JB-HiFi http://tinyurl.com/6tr365l ) Test it first before buying on
    >>>>>>> mine there is no slow play, but does fast up to 32x and will replay
    >>>>>>> selected pieces or AVI's

    >>
    >>>>>> I have the Sony bluray player. It is a little frustrating to use, it
    >>>>>> plays back all media files at 60p even if it is a recording of a TV
    >>>>>> show
    >>>>>> in PAL. The work around is to force the tv output to 576p.
    >>>>>> Another problem, is that it routinely has a delay of about 1 second at
    >>>>>> the start of every audio file.

    >>
    >>>>> Thats why you should try it before you buy

    >>
    >>>>> The Soniq I bought because my panasonic DVD doesnt have a USB port
    >>>>> The Soniq blu-Ray B100 works for me and others it seems
    >>>>> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1946189

    >>
    >>>>> I think media players are going to be a thing of the past most TV's
    >>>>> have a USB port (My latest 46" $500 Sanyo LCD from Dick Smith does
    >>>>> with out speed control though). Much quicker than burning to a dvd

    >>
    >>>>> USB's have to be formated "FAT32" they won't play or accept NFTS
    >>>>> format AFAIK

    >>
    >>>> The Sony does work with NTFS drives. FAT32 isn't practical with HD
    >>>> files. The Sony looks great, low res youtube clips are even okay, I've
    >>>> only pointed out the faults.

    >>
    >>>> I have no way of knowing and I don't know that you know if the Soniq
    >>>> plays back video correctly at 50p and 60p.

    >>
    >>>> As to why it has a second delay, I bet they fix that in later releases.

    >>
    >>>> My TV only plays picture files through its USB port.

    >>
    >>> Try experimenting with FAT32 on USB and see

    >>
    >>> (don't see why it won't handle HD files)

    >>
    >> Because it was only designed to do those ?
    >>

    > I convert my download movies as WMV and convert to MP4 or AVI both
    > seem adequate and not been bothered to do more
    >
    > Summery of what I see with playing movies
    >
    > When I buy a USB they so far have all come with FAT32 which works
    >
    > Just read "H.264" is supposedly the latest MP4 format (version 10)
    >
    > I haven't tried to get 3D on USB and not sure how this would be done?
    > The TV and 3D glasses need to synchronize left lens flashes off as
    > right lens flashes on then reverses
    >
    > Proper HD video would be around 10 gig in size I would guess
    >
    > although I see searching some porno's claiming to be HD around 6 Gig
    >
    >>> What format are you using for HD files?
    >>> I though MP4 was the best to use?

    >>


    I'm using a portable WD hard drive in the sony bluray player, straight
    from the computer to the bluray player. I wouldn't bother with a player
    that couldn't do that.


  19. #19
    Ext User(hislop) Guest

    Re: Media players

    On 19/07/2012 2:42 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
    >
    >
    > "PaulM" <Merrick_Paul@agogo.com> wrote in message
    > news:ju7ud7$cul$1@speranza.aioe.org...
    >>
    >> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >> news:tple085adms84kpcvii3s40s4pbs4q344u@4ax.com...
    >>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:13:33 +1000, hislop <takecarebeware@gmail.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> On 18/07/2012 8:13 PM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:15:27 +0800, "Derek"<derek@nowhere.com> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a
    >>>>>> TV?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go
    >>>>>> out of date
    >>>>>> within a year?
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Best buy a Blu-Ray player (about $100) that takes a USB drive, just
    >>>>> put your downloaded Movie to USB (need to save it in either AVI or
    >>>>> MP4) and it will play brilliantly (I use a Soniq Blu Ray bought at
    >>>>> JB-HiFi http://tinyurl.com/6tr365l ) Test it first before buying on
    >>>>> mine there is no slow play, but does fast up to 32x and will replay
    >>>>> selected pieces or AVI's
    >>>>
    >>>> I have the Sony bluray player. It is a little frustrating to use, it
    >>>> plays back all media files at 60p even if it is a recording of a TV
    >>>> show
    >>>> in PAL. The work around is to force the tv output to 576p.
    >>>> Another problem, is that it routinely has a delay of about 1 second at
    >>>> the start of every audio file.
    >>>
    >>> Thats why you should try it before you buy
    >>>
    >>> The Soniq I bought because my panasonic DVD doesnt have a USB port
    >>> The Soniq blu-Ray B100 works for me and others it seems
    >>> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1946189
    >>>
    >>> I think media players are going to be a thing of the past most TV's
    >>> have a USB port (My latest 46" $500 Sanyo LCD from Dick Smith does
    >>> with out speed control though). Much quicker than burning to a dvd

    >
    >> TVs are limited as to what file formats they can play.

    >
    > The best ones aren't in fact very limited at all.
    >
    > Itís the same technology thatís seen in media players after all.
    >
    >> Converting between formats is a very time consuming process

    >
    > Like hell it is with a system that has enough horsepower.


    The best hardware takes about 4 hours with bluray files.
    I've gathered anyway on the web. Up to 24 hours in some cases, and
    probably mine.
    I wouldn't bother converting bluray files to another format, never.

    >
    >> which often produces bad results.

    >
    > Wrong again. Hardly ever in fact.



  20. #20
    Ext User(Rod Speed) Guest

    Re: Media players



    "hislop" <takecarebeware@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:ju9bt4$u0j$3@dont-email.me...
    > On 19/07/2012 2:42 PM, Rod Speed wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >> "PaulM" <Merrick_Paul@agogo.com> wrote in message
    >> news:ju7ud7$cul$1@speranza.aioe.org...
    >>>
    >>> "Petzl" <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in message
    >>> news:tple085adms84kpcvii3s40s4pbs4q344u@4ax.com...
    >>>> On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:13:33 +1000, hislop <takecarebeware@gmail.com>
    >>>> wrote:
    >>>>
    >>>>> On 18/07/2012 8:13 PM, Petzl wrote:
    >>>>>> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 17:15:27 +0800, "Derek"<derek@nowhere.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> What is the recommended approach to playing downloaded movies on a
    >>>>>>> TV?
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> If I buy a media player for about $100, won't the codecs etc. go
    >>>>>>> out of date
    >>>>>>> within a year?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Best buy a Blu-Ray player (about $100) that takes a USB drive, just
    >>>>>> put your downloaded Movie to USB (need to save it in either AVI or
    >>>>>> MP4) and it will play brilliantly (I use a Soniq Blu Ray bought at
    >>>>>> JB-HiFi http://tinyurl.com/6tr365l ) Test it first before buying on
    >>>>>> mine there is no slow play, but does fast up to 32x and will replay
    >>>>>> selected pieces or AVI's
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I have the Sony bluray player. It is a little frustrating to use, it
    >>>>> plays back all media files at 60p even if it is a recording of a TV
    >>>>> show
    >>>>> in PAL. The work around is to force the tv output to 576p.
    >>>>> Another problem, is that it routinely has a delay of about 1 second at
    >>>>> the start of every audio file.
    >>>>
    >>>> Thats why you should try it before you buy
    >>>>
    >>>> The Soniq I bought because my panasonic DVD doesnt have a USB port
    >>>> The Soniq blu-Ray B100 works for me and others it seems
    >>>> http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1946189
    >>>>
    >>>> I think media players are going to be a thing of the past most TV's
    >>>> have a USB port (My latest 46" $500 Sanyo LCD from Dick Smith does
    >>>> with out speed control though). Much quicker than burning to a dvd

    >>
    >>> TVs are limited as to what file formats they can play.

    >>
    >> The best ones aren't in fact very limited at all.
    >>
    >> Itís the same technology thatís seen in media players after all.
    >>
    >>> Converting between formats is a very time consuming process

    >>
    >> Like hell it is with a system that has enough horsepower.


    > The best hardware takes about 4 hours with bluray files.


    The original didnít say blueray files.

    > I've gathered anyway on the web. Up to 24 hours in some cases, and
    > probably mine.


    Your problem.

    > I wouldn't bother converting bluray files to another format, never.


    There wouldnít be any need to, any decent new media player should play them.

    >>> which often produces bad results.

    >>
    >> Wrong again. Hardly ever in fact.

    >


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