Twice convicted, then released ?

[Ext User(Phil Allison)]

** There must be a heck of a story behind this one.

After TWO juries found the accused man guilty double murder, he is now fully
acquitted and out free.

http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...726-22uk1.html


WTF ???



.... Phil

[Ext User(Pelican)]

"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:a7ca3lF2uvU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> ** There must be a heck of a story behind this one.
>
> After TWO juries found the accused man guilty double murder, he is now
> fully acquitted and out free.
>
> http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...726-22uk1.html
>
>
> WTF ???

You will have to read the decision of the Court of Criminal Appeal when it
is published. It is obvious that the Court of Criminal Appeal in the first
appeal had some misgivings about whether the prosecution could make its
case, but was not prepared to acquit. It appears that the Court of Criminal
Appeal in this appeal might have been satisfied that the prosecution did not
make its case. We will have to wait and see.

[Ext User(Phil Allison)]

"Pelican = ASShole "
>
> "Phil Allison"
>>
>> ** There must be a heck of a story behind this one.
>>
>> After TWO juries found the accused man guilty double murder, he is now
>> fully acquitted and out free.
>>
>> http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...726-22uk1.html
>>
>>
>> WTF ???
>
>
> You will have to read the decision of the Court of Criminal Appeal when it
> is published.


** Of course - you posturing turd.


> It is obvious that the Court of Criminal Appeal in the first appeal had
> some misgivings about whether the prosecution could make its case,

** Huh ? Why "could " ????

The real Q is what the **** was so wrong with the police evidence to bring
about this outcome.

TWO judges and TWO juries were convinced it WAS adequate at the respective
times.

I smell a big, fat rat.

No ****wit pelicans need apply.


.... Phil

[Ext User(Pelican)]

"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
news:a7cf1bF78hU1@mid.individual.net...
>
> "Pelican = ASShole "
>>
>> "Phil Allison"
>>>
>>> ** There must be a heck of a story behind this one.
>>>
>>> After TWO juries found the accused man guilty double murder, he is now
>>> fully acquitted and out free.
>>>
>>> http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...726-22uk1.html
>>>
>>>
>>> WTF ???
>>
>>
>> You will have to read the decision of the Court of Criminal Appeal when
>> it is published.
>
>
> ** Of course - you posturing turd.
>
>
>> It is obvious that the Court of Criminal Appeal in the first appeal had
>> some misgivings about whether the prosecution could make its case, you
>> silly, little, toaster-boi.

>
> ** Huh ? Why "could " ????

Because the court ordered a retrial. The question, then, was whether the
prosecution could make its case,
> The real Q is what the **** was so wrong with the police evidence to bring
> about this outcome.

All the evidence was circumstantial. There was no "police" evidence of a
confession, or murder weapon with the accused's fingerprints, etc etc.

> TWO judges and TWO juries were convinced it WAS adequate at the respective
> times.

Two Courts of Criminal Appeal were not, and what they say finally counts.

> I smell a big, fat rat.

That would be the one stuck up your skinny arse, you silly, little,
toaster-boi.

[Ext User(Phil Allison)]

"Pelican = ****WIT ASShole "

>>
>>> It is obvious that the Court of Criminal Appeal in the first appeal had
>>> some misgivings about whether the prosecution could make its case,
>
>> ** Huh ? Why "could " ????
>
> Because the court ordered a retrial.

** Non sequitur.

> The question, then, was whether the prosecution could make its case,

** Even bigger non sequitur.

Wot a pathetic attempt at BULLSHIT !!!


>> The real Q is what the **** was so wrong with the police evidence to
>> bring about this outcome.
>
>> TWO judges and TWO juries were convinced it WAS adequate at the
>> respective times.
>
> Two Courts of Criminal Appeal were not,


** Begs the question - you ****ing RETARD !!!!!!!!!!!

I smell a bloated, rotting, putrid dead penguin.



.... Phil

[Ext User(Pelican)]

"Phil Allison" <phil_a@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
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>



>
> I smell a bloated, rotting, putrid dead penguin.
>
>
>
> ... Phil



Take your pills, you silly, little, toaster-boi.

[Ext User(atec77)]

On 26/07/2012 7:24 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
> "Pelican = ****WIT ASShole "
>
>>>
>>>> It is obvious that the Court of Criminal Appeal in the first appeal had
>>>> some misgivings about whether the prosecution could make its case,
>>
>>> ** Huh ? Why "could " ????
>>
>> Because the court ordered a retrial.
>
> ** Non sequitur.
>
>> The question, then, was whether the prosecution could make its case,
>
> ** Even bigger non sequitur.
>
> Wot a pathetic attempt at BULLSHIT !!!
>
>
>>> The real Q is what the **** was so wrong with the police evidence to
>>> bring about this outcome.
>>
>>> TWO judges and TWO juries were convinced it WAS adequate at the
>>> respective times.
>>
>> Two Courts of Criminal Appeal were not,
>
>
> ** Begs the question - you ****ing RETARD !!!!!!!!!!!
>
> I smell a bloated, rotting, putrid dead penguin.
>
>
>
> ... Phil
>
>
>
Your just to close to your abused festering arse

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[Ext User(peterwn)]

On Jul 26, 8:18*pm, "Pelican" <water-bi...@sea.somewhere.org.ir>
wrote:
> "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
>
> news:a7ca3lF2uvU1@mid.individual.net...
>
>
>
> > ** There must be a heck of a story behind this one.
>
> > After TWO juries found the accused man guilty double murder, he is now
> > fully acquitted and out free.
>
> >http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...cquitted-of-do...
>
> > WTF *???
>
> You will have to read the decision of the Court of Criminal Appeal when it
> is published. *It is obvious that the Court of Criminal Appeal in the first
> appeal had some misgivings about whether the prosecution could make its
> case, but was not prepared to acquit. *It appears that the Court of Criminal
> Appeal in this appeal might have been satisfied that the prosecution did not
> make its case. *We will have to wait and see.
Wonder whether it will go back to the Coroner and what he / she rules.
A New Zealand coroner pretty well said recently that a father was
responsible for the death of two of his children despite a court
acquittal.

[Ext User(Pelican)]

"peterwn" <peterwn@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:8e60b7be-0544-4789-a521-3737e8465284@f9g2000pbd.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 26, 8:18 pm, "Pelican" <water-bi...@sea.somewhere.org.ir>
> wrote:
>> "Phil Allison" <phi...@tpg.com.au> wrote in message
>>
>> news:a7ca3lF2uvU1@mid.individual.net...
>>
>>
>>
>> > ** There must be a heck of a story behind this one.
>>
>> > After TWO juries found the accused man guilty double murder, he is now
>> > fully acquitted and out free.
>>
>> >http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...cquitted-of-do...
>>
>> > WTF ???
>>
>> You will have to read the decision of the Court of Criminal Appeal when
>> it
>> is published. It is obvious that the Court of Criminal Appeal in the
>> first
>> appeal had some misgivings about whether the prosecution could make its
>> case, but was not prepared to acquit. It appears that the Court of
>> Criminal
>> Appeal in this appeal might have been satisfied that the prosecution did
>> not
>> make its case. We will have to wait and see.

> Wonder whether it will go back to the Coroner and what he / she rules.
> A New Zealand coroner pretty well said recently that a father was
> responsible for the death of two of his children despite a court
> acquittal.

It's quite possible to be responsible for someone's death without being
criminally responsible.

[Ext User(DavidW)]

Phil Allison wrote:
> ** There must be a heck of a story behind this one.
>
> After TWO juries found the accused man guilty double murder, he is
> now fully acquitted and out free.
>
> http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...726-22uk1.html
>
>
> WTF ???

Let's see if the the much higher profile Farquharson case - a triple murder -
goes the same way. That is also a circumstantial case. He's also been convicted
by two juries, but he has appealed the second conviction.

[Ext User(Pelican)]

"DavidW" <no@email.provided> wrote in message
news:jusglo$6ir$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> Phil Allison wrote:
>> ** There must be a heck of a story behind this one.
>>
>> After TWO juries found the accused man guilty double murder, he is
>> now fully acquitted and out free.
>>
>> http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...726-22uk1.html
>>
>>
>> WTF ???
>
> Let's see if the the much higher profile Farquharson case - a triple
> murder - goes the same way. That is also a circumstantial case. He's also
> been convicted by two juries, but he has appealed the second conviction.

You really can't make a direct comparison between such cases. The appeals
each turn on their own particular circumstances.

[Ext User(DavidW)]

Pelican wrote:
> "DavidW" <no@email.provided> wrote in message
> news:jusglo$6ir$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> Phil Allison wrote:
>>> ** There must be a heck of a story behind this one.
>>>
>>> After TWO juries found the accused man guilty double murder, he is
>>> now fully acquitted and out free.
>>>
>>> http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...726-22uk1.html
>>>
>>>
>>> WTF ???
>>
>> Let's see if the the much higher profile Farquharson case - a triple
>> murder - goes the same way. That is also a circumstantial case. He's
>> also been convicted by two juries, but he has appealed the second
>> conviction.
>
> You really can't make a direct comparison between such cases. The
> appeals each turn on their own particular circumstances.

I know, but from all the reports I've heard on this case it has seemed that the
evidence is slightly shaky. There was evidence that he wanted to do something
like what happened, but the evidence of the actual incident doesn't look all
that strong to me.

[Ext User(Phil Allison)]

"peterwn"

Wonder whether it will go back to the Coroner and what he / she rules.


** The coroner can make no rulings as to guilt.

The only suspect has been acquitted.

We only need to know why.



..... Phil

[Ext User(Phil Allison)]

"David Wanker "

>
>> You really can't make a direct comparison between such cases. The
>> appeals each turn on their own particular circumstances.
>
> I know, but from all the reports I've heard on this case it has seemed
> that the evidence is slightly shaky. There was evidence that he wanted to
> do something like what happened, but the evidence of the actual incident
> doesn't look all that strong to me.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Farquharson


** Farquharson's driving clearly killed his sons - there is no doubt on
that.

So it is NOTHING like the case I raised.

His excuse was implausible and his behaviour post event was that of a guilty
man.

Plus he had a clear motive that he mentioned to another.




..... Phil

[Ext User(DavidW)]

Phil Allison wrote:
> "David Wanker "
>
> ** Farquharson's driving clearly killed his sons - there is no doubt
> on that.
>
> So it is NOTHING like the case I raised.

Twice convicted and it's a circumstantial case. So quite a LOT in common.

> His excuse was implausible

Unlikely but possible. You need to be pretty damned sure before you lock
someone up for decades. That's why I think it's a little shaky, but only a
little.

[Ext User(Phil Allison)]

"David ****wit Wanker "
>>
>> ** Farquharson's driving clearly killed his sons - there is no doubt
>> on that.
>>
>> So it is NOTHING like the case I raised.
>
> Twice convicted and it's a circumstantial case.


** Circumstantial cases are common.


So quite a LOT in common.


** Sweet **** All - in actual common.



>> His excuse was implausible
>
> Unlikely but possible.

** Same thing.

**** off - tenth wit.

[Ext User(DavidW)]

DavidW wrote:
> Phil Allison wrote:
>>
>> So it is NOTHING like the case I raised.
>
> Twice convicted and it's a circumstantial case.

AND a multiple murder.

> So quite a LOT in common.

[Ext User(Sylvia Else)]

On 26/07/2012 5:31 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
> ** There must be a heck of a story behind this one.
>
> After TWO juries found the accused man guilty double murder, he is now fully
> acquitted and out free.
>
> http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news...726-22uk1.html
>
>
> WTF ???
>
>
>
> ... Phil
>
>
>
>

Judgement.

http://www.caselaw.nsw.gov.au/action...,jgmtid=160554

[Ext User(Sylvia Else)]

On 26/07/2012 5:31 PM, Phil Allison wrote:
> ** There must be a heck of a story behind this one.

And yet, in the end, there doesn't seem to be. Just a jury too willing
to convict on the strength of rather flimsy evidence, including perhaps
improperly considering the accused's failure to give evidence as an
indication of guilt.

Sylvia.